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Cindy McCain: The POWs Who 'Had the Trouble' Were Young Draftees, Not Trained Officers Like My Husband
October 09, 2008 9:17 PM
An interesting exchange from Cindy McCain in the new issue of Marie Claire. Will be interesting to see how McCain's fellow P.O.W.'s react.
Q: You met your husband after his POW days. To what extent is that still with you - or is it a part of history?
CINDY McCAIN: My husband will be the first one to tell you that that's in the past. Certainly it's a part of who he is, but he doesn't dwell on it. It's not part of a daily experience that we experience or anything like that. But it has shaped him. It has made him the leader that he is.
Q: But no cold sweats in the middle of the night?
CINDY McCAIN: Oh, no, no, no, no, no. My husband, he'd be the first one to tell you that he was trained to do what he was doing. The guys who had the trouble were the 18-year-olds who were drafted. He was trained, he went to the Naval Academy, he was a trained United States naval officer, and so he knew what he was doing.
- jpt
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I served in the Marines. I will say
I did not fight for this country to have a low- life like Cindy McCain
denigrate my service! John McCain is playing politics for his OWN personal gain! He has shamed my service to this nation by running a dishonorable campaign. He comsistently votes AGAINST
increasing veterans benefits, yet has NO problem giving billions to oil companies and the filthy rich. John McCain deserves a DISHONORABLE discharge
from the American people in November, for running a DISHONORABLE campaign!
Posted by: Jack | Oct 11, 2008 8:23:20 AM
When did Cindy become an expert on PTSD?I'm a veteran,I've seen many accidents, death;and near death trauma,and as a young soldier I was able to cope,and function without strong repercussions. As an older civilian ,I witnessed a young girl get run over by a bus and die in the streets, and I got hit by an erratic taxicab;these are the sources of why I now have PTSD.My youth actually was when I,personally was more resilient.
Posted by: lars siler | Oct 11, 2008 12:53:16 AM
Oh my goodness,,,she didn't think before she spoke! My heart goes out to all these brave troops who have seen hell and have to relive it over and over again. May they all get the help they DESERVE without having to fight the government. Cindy, you owe them all an apology.
Posted by: RO | Oct 10, 2008 10:17:16 PM
What can you expect from an ultra rich spoiled druggie brat, who slept with a then married to someone else man, John McCain, of few principles. McCain didn't have the stomach to be a ground pounder, but had no problem killing hundreds of woman and children from the air. Talk to some of his Academy classmates, had McCain's dad and grandfather not been ranking Admirals, John boy would have never been admitted to the Academy let alone a graduate and Navy pilot. Not sure what John boy gets his service connected disability for, PTSD or ? But my sources tell me he does receive a monthly disability checks; and his hate mongering campaign confirms that he is indeed disabled and not fit for duty.
Posted by: dcitizen | Oct 10, 2008 6:07:50 PM
Does this woman ever think before she speaks?
Posted by: WeTakeManyPictures | Oct 10, 2008 5:32:42 PM
I can't believe those words came out of her mouth! What a disgrace. Dissing some of the 18 yr olds that were "drafted" during that time without choice, mind you, and sent straight into the front lines, for you no less.
It's very difficult for me to believe your husband went through all of that torture and hasn't suffered any problems mentally.
My cousin was a Viet Nam Vet. I'm proud to say he was a Green Beret. Just so you know CINDY, that is am "Elite Squad". I'm quite sure he was better trained than your husband. My cousin did 3 tours in Nam, came home and committed suicide as a result of what we now know as PTSD.
I also have a very close friend that served in Nam as a Marine. He volunteered also at the age of 18, so yes, he was very well trained. He is now 62 yrs old. He still to this very day has nightmares from his tour in Viet Nam. He has a hard time going to funerals because every time he sees a casket all that comes to his mind is "black bags".
I read a very interesting article about Mr. John McCain yesterday that was based on reports by some that were POW's at the same time John was. Maybe you should read it, get a clue.
HA! According to the article, it's mentioned "Dubya" was a better pilot than your husband. I have lost all the respect I've ever had for John McCain!
I now know what phonies the both of you are. You should be shipped off to live on an iceberg.... along with Palin.
Posted by: annie | Oct 10, 2008 4:57:21 PM
Leslie,
Interesting....McCain's temper is also legendary....So, we have a person who loves to gamble, a raging temper that is enough to embarass his in public with vile remarks, a wife who was in trouble for drug problem that McCain helped go away, who used poor judgement in the Keating 5 scandal, and who admittedly committedly adultery with his current wife. Do we really know who John McCain. I have said all along McCain's hands are not clean which makes current strategy of calling out Obama on Ayres all the more absurd. It could also explain why he hasn't gone the extra step and brought up Wright.
Posted by: indy_voter | Oct 10, 2008 3:04:17 PM
McCain also has a gambling obsession. Google the NY Times story.
Posted by: Leslie | Oct 10, 2008 2:11:38 PM
fyi...Has she or her husband been questioned on the following? Seems McCain has more than few skeletons in his closet...
In 1989, Cindy McCain became addicted to Percocet and Vicodin, opioid painkillers, which she initially took to alleviate pain following two spinal surgeries for ruptured discs, and to ease emotional stress during the Keating Five affair. The addiction progressed to where she was taking upwards of twenty pills a day,[15] and she resorted to having an AVMT physician write illegal prescriptions in the names of three AVMT employees without their knowledge.In 1992, her parents staged an intervention to force her to get help; she told her husband about her problem, attended a drug treatment facility, began outpatient sessions, and ended her three years of addiction. Surgery in 1993 resolved her back pain.
In January 1993, Tom Gosinski, an AVMT employee, who had discovered her illegal drug use, was terminated on budgetary grounds. Subsequently, he tipped off the Drug Enforcement Administration, and a federal investigation ensued. McCain's defense team, led by John McCain's Keating Five lawyer John Dowd, secured an agreement with the U.S. Attorney's office for McCain, a first-time offender, that avoided charges while requiring her to pay financial restitution, enroll in a diversion program and do community service.Meanwhile, in early 1994 Gosinski filed a wrongful termination lawsuit against McCain, which he told her he would settle for $250,000.In response, Dowd characterized this request as blackmail and requested that officials investigate Gosinski for extortion. In the end, both Gosinski's lawsuit and the extortion investigation against him were dropped
Knowing that the DEA prosecutors were about to publicly disclose her past addiction, McCain preemptively revealed the story to reporters saying she was doing so willingly: "Although my conduct did not result in compromising any missions of AVMT, my actions were wrong, and I regret them
Posted by: indy_voter | Oct 10, 2008 12:59:24 PM
I lived through VietNam, lost many friends and a fiance....and let me tell you this fact...those that did come back and that I spoke to were so broken mentally that nothing could help the visions.
They killed women and children because they did not know who to trust, it was worse then any hell you could even imagine.
I protested VietNam, but never protested our soldiers doing their job.
But we were very ill equipped to handle the mental stress that this war (and others) have done to those who survived that hell.
If you have not lived it, then you will never know how you would feel being woke up in the middle of the night by someone who thinks you are the enemy.
That even a small clicking sound triggers something in them and sets them off in a cold sweat of fear.
We have yet in all these years, been able to address and solve the mental problems our soldiers face.
My brother just got back from Afghanistan and I will tell you this, he is not the same.
I have a brother-in-law in Iraq, soon to be gone a year now, I wonder how he will be when he gets home.
Obama/Biden '08
Posted by: Bev | Oct 10, 2008 12:24:49 PM
To Sam:
"In the most obscene chapter in recent American history is the conduct of the Kosovo conflict when the president of the United States refused to prepare for ground operations, refused to have air power used effectively because he wanted them flying -- he had them flying at 15,000 feet where they killed innocent civilians because they were dropping bombs from such -- in high altitude."
Those are the words of John McCain in 2000.
Posted by: Ryan c | Oct 10, 2008 11:26:14 AM
She sounded like she thought all those 18-year-old draftees in Vietnam (some of whom were not fortunate enough to come back in one piece like McCain) did not know what they were doing. So that's why they messed up so bad and have PTSD. Unlike the brave John "I AM A POW" McCain.
Doesn't dwell on it? McCain responds to a remark by Biden how he's so out og touch-he has to first decide whihc kitchen table in his 7 houses to tabulate his bills on: When I was in Vietnam, I didn't have a table, a chair...
Bailout: I'm an old Navy pilot, I know in times of crises we need all hands on the deck.
Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 10, 2008 11:22:47 AM
Just remember to vote for OBAMA. We have to protect our troops and our security.
Posted by: Linda Byrd | Oct 10, 2008 11:21:03 AM
So,
How does Cindy McCain explain aware his irrational behavior and the fact that her loving husband called her the most despicable term you can call a woman? Someone he supposedly loves. I am no prude and use profanity extensively (too much) but I would never utter that term to refer to any woman yet McCain says it to the woman he loves (in anger) in front of others. I have no respect for a man like that.
Posted by: indy_voter | Oct 10, 2008 11:18:44 AM
I have lost all respect for the McCains with the negative ads. He could have pulled himself out of this mess by being the McCain people were pulling for back in September. As for Cindy, when she stood on that stage and said chills went down her spine when Obama voted against money for the troops, but negleted to mention that her husband also voted against money for the troops for different reasons, I realized the "Country First" is not true. This campaign has become McCain win at any cost. Obama voted no because he wanted a time line included. When the time line was added, McCain voted no because he did not want time lines. All candidates should tell the truth, the whole truth and let the voters decide.
Posted by: nita | Oct 10, 2008 10:59:03 AM
It is safe to say that, just like her husband and his votes on veteran matters, Cindy McCain just doesn't get it. She needs to go back to shopping for those $300,000 outfits and leave the discussion to someone who habituates the real world.
Posted by: MARTY | Oct 10, 2008 10:51:27 AM
McCain did not disclose his ties to a Contra group
Does McCain have something to hide??????
Posted by: VanLear | Oct 10, 2008 10:50:27 AM
What the?!
Look, the Vietnam war was a nightmare. Many soldiers fought their enemies hand to hand in the forests, not far away shooting at specified targets. It's no surprise if many of them are haunted by their memories of the war or guilt or nightmares. Veteran soldiers too can be traumatised. This does not demean their bravery or courage on the battlefield.
I don't particularly like her comment, as though the eighteen year old soldiers were softer, you know, not as tough and kind of more namby pamby then good ol' POW McCain. No one would ever think worse of him even if he woke up in the middle of the night in cold sweat often after he was released. He's human, isn't he?
Soldiers too, are simply human beings.
Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 10, 2008 9:25:41 AM
The McCain's have lived apart for years. Cindy only lived in D.C. a short time and fled back to Arizona. I doiubt she knows whether McCain has cold sweats.
Her assertion that officers are somehow immune to PTSD shows how little she knows. But I guess that only applies to those officers from Annapolis - even those who only graduated because of family legacy.
Posted by: Sandy | Oct 10, 2008 9:13:20 AM
All of this talk about McCains son serving in Iraq is nonsense.
What does Cindy McCain want Barack to send one of his daughters to the war,which one shound he send Malia who is 10 years old or maybe he should send Sasha his 7 year old.
It is absurd to suggest that any American does not support our troops.
It is also aburd that either because someone is rich or married to a U.S. Senator they can get away with a drug felony that they admit to, which is what happened to Cindy McCain.
It is also absurd to criticize a thesis for a sociology major who also received a certificate in African-American Studies from Princeton as racist because it basically studies whether or not African-American Princeton graduates become more or less motivated to benefit the African-American Community.
As for McCains son serving in Iraq I personally commend him, as I would all of our soldiers who have fought in this war.
I would however like to know was he injured or what is the reason he was only over there for 7 months if that is indeed the case as someone posted on here. Because I personaly know 2 guys that have been over there for 16 months and another guy who is now back after 14 months and they are all national guard members and McCain's son is an enlisted member of the Marines. If anyone out there knows why James McCain's stay in Iraq was relativly short compared to my buddies who have been there twice as long please let me know. I suspect it might be for the same reasons that Prince Harry was denied the opportunity to go.
Posted by: Josh | Oct 10, 2008 5:14:15 AM
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