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Does Obama Still Think Ayers Has Been ‘Rehabilitated’? No, Says His Campaign
October 10, 2008 1:55 PM
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told a radio host yesterday that by the time he found out about William Ayers' background as a member of a violent radical 70s group "The Weather Underground," "I assumed that he had been rehabilitated," since Ayers at that point had become an apparently accepted member of the Chicago academic world.
Ayers was, when Obama met him, "a college professor, teaches education at the University of Illinois, and that's how I met him, was working on a school reform project that was funded by an ambassador and former close friend of Ronald Reagan's and I was sitting on this board along with a whole bunch of conservative businessmen and civic leaders, and he was one of the people who was on this board."
But since 1995 -- when Obama met Ayers -- the founding member of the Weather Underground has gone on to make it clear that he doesn't think he did anything wrong. And Obama has worked with him (as have plenty of others, including some Republicans) on education issues and such.
And Ayers has made it clear that he is unrepentant.
''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Ayers told the New York Times in 2001. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Asked if he would do it all again, Ayers said, ''I don't want to discount the possibility. I don't think you can understand a single thing we did without understanding the violence of the Vietnam War."
In a comic strip that Ayers recently posted on his blog, Ayers tried to explain the "we didn't do enough" quote from seven years ago, writing, "It's impossible to get to be my age and not have plenty of regrets. The one thing I don't regret is opposing the war in Vietnam with every ounce of my being. During the Vietnam War, the Weather Underground took credit for bombing several government installations as a dramatic form of armed propaganda. Action was taken against symbolic targets in order to declare a state of emergency. But warnings were always called in, and by design, no one was ever hurt.
"When I say, 'We didn't do enough,' a lot of people rush to think, 'That must mean, "We didn't bomb enough s---."' But that's not the point at all. It's not a tactical statement, it's an obvious political and ethical statement. In this context, 'we' means 'everyone.' The war in Vietnam was not only illegal, it was profoundly immoral, millions of people were needlessly killed. Even though I worked hard to end the war, I feel to this day that I didn't do enough because the war dragged on for years after the majority of the American people came to oppose it. I don't think violent resistance is necessarily the answer, but I do think opposition and refusal is imperative."
(He doesn't think violent resistance is NECESSARILY the answer?)
So, today, with today's facts, does Obama think Ayers has been "rehabilitated"?
No, he doesn't think so, a source at the campaign tells me.
Obama spox Bill Burton says of Obama's comment that he thought Ayers had been "rehabilitated": "Sen. Obama was referring to his education work but he, of course, does not believe that work absolves him of the despicable acts that he committed 40 years ago."
- jpt
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I THINK THAT THE COMIC MEANT THAT IN ADDITION TO THE WEATHERMEN, AYERS FELT THAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AGAINST THE VIETNAM WAR DID NOT DO ENOUGH TO END THE WAR. HE DID NOT RECOMMEND THE METHODS HE THOUGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE IMPLEMENTED.
THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER AYERS IS CORRECT OR NOT, IT IS TO TAKE UP THE CAMPAIGN IMPUGNING OBAMA AND NOT DISCUSSING REAL ISSUES THAT CONCERN THE UNITED STATES' ELECTORATE.
Posted by: chris in chicago | Oct 14, 2008 5:56:32 PM
It is not just Obamas relationship with Ayers; it is also his involvement with Rev. Wright, Tony Risko, Father Flagran and Khalidi (that we know of) that is of great concern; these people are radicals to the core. If Obama is elected, he will need to fill over 3000 positions in his administration; who do you think will come calling for him to return the favors to these people for helping him to get to where he is?
In his book, Audacity of Hope, Obama said, "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
The saying is very true: you become the company you keep!
Posted by: Questionable relationships | Oct 13, 2008 9:08:23 AM
Do you know the backgrounds of everyone you associate with? I can guarantee you that you don't.
This Ayers thing is just a ludicrous witch hunt.
Perhaps you should question McCain as to why the Annenbergs donated to him? They are the ones who had Ayers on their board. They must be terrorists and these terrorists are funding McCain! Oh, my!!
You people make me sick trying to put down a good man like Barack Obama.
You people make me sick trying to demonize ACORN. A bi-partisan organization that has been around for many years that helps poor people. An organization that was following the laws and reported the suspicious registrations but had to turn them in by law. Whose to say a Republican plant wasn't put into the group to purposely make out false registrations? Eh? It's not beneath a Republican to do something like that. Republicans even eat their own. Look what the Bush campaign did to McCain when he ran before.
Go ahead and vote against your own best interest. Give more to the rich and kick the poor in the teeth. Our founding fathers will once more roll in their graves.
Posted by: MargaretO | Oct 12, 2008 6:33:36 AM
I've heard that Obama is paling around with the descendants of civil war veterans as well. Unrepentant terrorists from the civil war who were given amnesty for their terroristic acts against the sovereign nation of America! And he wants their descendants to vote for him. He even invites the descendants of civil war terrorists into his very own home!
Posted by: Vietnam Protester | Oct 11, 2008 10:31:43 PM
I am praying that the republican nightmare is finally ending and along with it, their attitudes and strategies of promoting guilt by association, rumor mongering, character assassination, fear mongering, xenophobia, and racism, as well as anti-intellectualism. My grandmother told me in 1960 that only bad will happen when the republicans gain power, and I have found that to be true. I am also hopeful the media will stop coddling the ultra right wing conservatives, just because they slam their fist on the table and scream about being treated unjustly – when their stupid ideas are actually called stupid. Most of the ultra conservative philosophies, from creationism to trickle down economics have been leading to the destruction of all the great principles that have created the greatest country in the world.
Raising associations with Ayes - an aging professor, who wants to hold onto the romantic notion that his efforts forty years ago, as violent and unacceptable as they were, somehow made a difference in the Vietnam debate for the good - is a very sad example of the desperate lengths the conservative movement is willing to go to try to assassinate someone’s character via an association for political gain. Ayes had no impact on the debate on the Vietnam war. He is a person of absolute insignificance on the world and national stages. And by now history has shown that his violent activities (as with all terrorist attacks) only served to hurt the very cause he claimed to promote. Terrorism is always the choice of the faithless coward.
In many ways Ayers stubborn inability to fully renounce those activities and see them for what they are is a reflection of John McCain’s unwillingness to disassociate him with the failed conservative policies that he has lived all his live espousing and believing. HE STILL WANTS TO USE THESE SAME STRATEGIES today, to deal with the very crisis they created. At least Ayers is willing to concede that violent civil protests may not have been the best choice (yea, he is getting close, but no cigar yet). I feel sorry for both men, at least Ayers seems close to an epiphany and maybe he will realize someday soon that his violent activities were antithetical, hypocritical and anti-productive given his stated goals. I do not think John will ever have such a moment.
Just so we are clear, I am in no way trying to say that John’s conservatism is the same as Ayers terrorism. Ayers tried to arrogantly and illegally take matters in his own hands, did not participate in a debate, and had insufficient faith in the correctness of his own beliefs leading him to selfishly and cowardly acts that threaten people’s lives: he was just lucky he never killed anyone. His activities were arrogant and self centered. John McCain is a far nobler human being who has given this country his dedication, service and honorably contributes to the debate in this country (well except for a few rather sleazy negative ads out there in TV land that I have to tolerate every five seconds in my battleground state).
Posted by: will | Oct 11, 2008 2:44:49 PM
to Noted -- the original reports on the drunk trooper document the tasering.
Posted by: maureen | Oct 11, 2008 1:00:52 PM
Who is John McCain?
Yesterday after a week of hateful anti-Obama events, McCain told supporters that Obama is a decent man, and that that they shouldn't be scared if Obama becomes Presidents. But McCain approves the ads that claim Obama supports terrorism.
Posted by: MrUniteUs | Oct 11, 2008 11:05:29 AM
The Ayers-McCain connection.
They both received money from the Annenbergs. Should McCain denounce the Annenbergs who hired Ayers. Should he claim that the Annebergs suppport domestic terrorism? Why has McCain not returned the money he received from the Annenbergs? Annenberg was an Ambassador during the Reagan years.
Why has McCain not denounced or returned the money he has received from CAC Board member and former Nixon Assistant Secretary of Labor Arnold Weber?
Posted by: Mr. Unite Us | Oct 11, 2008 10:53:30 AM
To Wow,
You have taken the side of Powerful against the weaker although there is no proof that the trooper did the things that Ms Palin said he did.
It It seems that 'fair justice for all' are words foreign to the extreme right.
GREED and DISHONESTY are illnesses
Posted by: Noted | Oct 11, 2008 10:46:00 AM
so let me get this straight greg. you think a drunk who tasers kids ought to have a gun and a badge? that's who you want in law enforcment?
wow
Posted by: maureen | Oct 11, 2008 10:12:19 AM
Old news people. Ayers is old news. New news? Palin found guilty of ethics violation in Alaska.
So you can keep harping on an old 60's nut case...or you can talk about someone who abuses their power running for VP.
Which one has an impact on your life today huh??
Posted by: Greg in MN | Oct 11, 2008 10:05:01 AM
Get real. Obama got hired for Annenberg board by Ayers, he supported the radical grants the board made, he gave a glowing review of Ayers' America-hating book on criminal justice and Ayers and his awful wife launched Obama's career at their house.
And we're supposed to believe this doesn't mean something? How dumb do they think the public is?
Mr. Clueless ought to be run out of town on a rail.
Posted by: holly | Oct 11, 2008 9:49:16 AM
Mr. board member and others -- put aside the association with ayers theme and LOOK at what obama and ayers did with the annenberg money. this was not some benign activity funding the three Rs. Their idea of "education reform" was to fund one radical group after another. Not what I'd want in my school and I'll bet not what most other Americans would want either. Look at it! That alone is reason to qustion Mr. O's so-called executive experience, even if Ayers weren't a terrorist.
Quit accepting what the media keeps calling "education reform." It wasn't. And by the way, it did not good. Millions wasted. Annenberg is probably spinning in his grave.
Posted by: maureen | Oct 11, 2008 9:42:07 AM
Why did David Axelrod, Obama's senior campaign official tell us that Obama did not know Ayers was a terrorist? Then we here that Obama knew but thought he was "rehabilitated" and now he doesn't think he was rehability.
Michelle Obama worked with Dorhn @ Austin Sibley until Dorhn left the firm after she could not be admitted to the Chicago bar - she would not appologize. Michelle Obama left Austin Sibley to go to work for Mayor Daley and Bill Ayers was working with Mayor Daley on the same issues at the same time.
ABSleeze spends all its time spinning for Obama. There is absolutely no attempt to report the facts. Shamefull.
Posted by: ubu1991 | Oct 11, 2008 7:51:13 AM
This is absurd to even be in the news! I sit on a board. I have never asked any of the members what they were doing 40 years ago. Nor do I care. I care what they are doing now.
It is hard to believe how easily Americans can be led.
As somebody wiser than me said: It is all about the excellence of marketing and the gullibility of the people.
Posted by: Truth Matters | Oct 10, 2008 11:48:27 PM
Can someone please write to Obama and tell him what he needs to think and say this time because he keeps getting confused
Posted by: msa123 | Oct 10, 2008 10:51:55 PM
I don't recall reading that Palin released her own Troopergate report exonerating herself. That is ludicrous enough to discuss, don't you think. Where is the public outrage at the race baiting at McCain's rallys? Why won't the networks call him on it? Why do they continue to smear Obama (Ayers) when they know the truth? Where is the integrity in journalism? Where are the real journalists? I think we should boycott all sites that do not treat both candidates equally. Not to do so is to condone the behavior. To paraphrase the adage, we must stand for something or we will fall for anything. Posted by: Ihjt | Oct 10, 2008 5:29:54 PM
Since we are airing candidate's dirty laundry, how about John McCain left his disabled wife- who had lobbied extensively for his release- for Cindy, and, to add insult to injury, John's mother sued the poor lady for wedding trinkets. How about Cindy McCain stole and was addicted to drugs that should have gone to poor children. How about she did this because John was entangled in the Keating 5 scandal. How about John McCain was involved, perhaps inappropriately, with a female lobbyist. I could go on and on, but I simply do not have the years to devote to it.
Posted by: Alright Already | Oct 10, 2008 10:46:50 PM
Of COURSE this latest version of truth is not more true than any of Obama's earlier versions of the truth. "He's just a guy in the neighborhood" became "He did not know who he was before they met in Ayers living room" became "They had met before his political launch but he didn't realize it was THAT Ayers" became "He learned about his past at some point" became "I thought he had been rehabilitated." Rehabilitated HOW, Sen. Obama? And once you knew he was NOT rehabilitated, did you disassociate yourself from him? Speak up? Go along to get along? Start figuring how to spin it when you launched your national campaign?
The folks who helped Obama get elected in Chicago (Wright, Ayers, Rezko) don't play so well on the national stage.
Posted by: Moderate | Oct 10, 2008 8:06:26 PM
Google "Steve Stoll and Sarah Palin." Want to know who's really pallin' around with terrorists? As it turns out, Sarah "Joe Sixpack, hockey mom" Palin, that's who. This story is about to break big and finish the job McCain has done of ruining his campaign. McCain blew it by picking Palin, especially now that it's come to light that she supports terrorism on our own soil. Go ahead and read up on it now, Steve Stoll and Sarah Palin. If you aren't a KKK member, you'll be shocked, disgusted and frightened of this enemy combatant McCain picked as his running mate. No exaggeration here. This is terrifying stuff. Really terrifying as her ties to this group are as current as 2008.
If you really put country first, you'll be voting OBAMA/BIDEN 2008.
Posted by: Republican Christians for Obama! | Oct 10, 2008 7:47:34 PM
Can you imagine Cindy McCain taking drugs from people who really needed them, shameful. Talking about that makes about as much sense as talking about Ayers.
The problem with you Republicans is you can't go forward because you are talking backwards.
Obama all the way to the White House.
Cory
Posted by: Cory | Oct 10, 2008 6:48:30 PM
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