Political Punch

HAH! I GET THE LAST BLOG!! OBAMA WINS!!! YAY!!! WHIPEE!!!WOO WOO!!!!

Real Democrats will not vote for Obama! Good traditional Democrats treasure Democracy and will not countenance voter fraud and lies.

Just one comment on Ayers and Obama. You don't start your polical life in the home and someone you don't know real well. Any body who thinks differently is just got the blinders on and think about it yourself, would you put you polical career in the hands of some guy you don't know real well. Give me a break.

The way John McCain has allowed the two women in his life be the mouthpieces for his anger,as he stands sheepishly by their side- I herefore dub them the Rocky and Bullwinkle ticket(moose and squirrel)

The right to bear arms shall not be infringed-if you believe the 2nd amendment was meant to be taken literally,irregardless of your definition of what a militia is,then I ask for your support,and for the NRA to give me legal representation,in my effort to buy nuclear weapons and Scud missiles,

This is ridiculous!!! How convenient!! Please tell them to go back to where they came from. I have had it with hate mongering, assassination enticements!!! These groups are dangerous!!

Interesting. Two things to keep in mind:

1) the release was written and distributed by the NSFF...hence the vitriol, but more important,

2) anyone can buy the entire list for $150... for NSSF members, it's only $75.

The issue is the term "unlawfully obtained" which means either the Indiana Obama Campaign pretended it was someone else to buy the list (though there is no mention of that in the release the NSFF wrote)...or that someone at the NSSF didn't think about who was buying the list and just processed the payment and sent the campaign the list...or someone got the list legally and forwarded the list (illegally) to someone the Obama campaign....there has to be a paper trail either way...

re: "The Obama campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

right , and they won't because this stuff is sooooo lame.......... keep it up, !
I will love the look on your faces late evening Nov 4, 2008.

"The Obama campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

Typical, just like they are stalling all other requests for information on the snake oil salesman they have for a candidate.

Hero:

keep that Ayers stuff up, right up to the election, where McCain & Gov. Moose lose big time.

Heard on radio yesterday that there is a dem in Washington proposing a bill to tax our 401K. Letting us save money has cost the govt 800B dollars. These dem bums should be voted out of office. All they can think of is how to take our money and tell us they "feel our pain".

Hero: Keep the information coming.

Voter Fraud in Ohio:
unbelievable that a U.S. district judge must issue an order requiring that the Ohio Secretary of State verify registrations.

CINCINNATI (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday ordered Ohio’s top elections official to verify the identity of newly registered voters by matching them with other government documents.

U.S. District Judge George C. Smith in Columbus ruled that Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner must perform verification required by the Help America Vote Act. That includes matching new registrants’ information against information in databases maintained by the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles or the Social Security Administration.

The order was the result of a lawsuit the Ohio Republican Party filed against Brunner, a Democrat. …
Judge Issues TRO Against the Ohio (Democrat) Secretary of State:

Apparently, in some quarters, intervening in instances of a guy registering to vote 72 times and people being harassed by ACORN to register multiple times fall into the category of “suppression” rather than “fraud”. Thank God some of the targets who were harassed had the honor and courage to speak up.

"“Plaintiffs assert, and the court agrees, that it is hard to imagine a public interest more compelling than safeguarding the legitimacy of the election of the president of the United States,” [U.S. District Judge George C. Smith in Columbus, Ohio] wrote in his ruling."

Another Muslim outreach director under the Obama bus?

from WallStreetJournal:

"Obama's Staff Slips Up With Muslim Outreach"

Minha Husaini, the Obama campaign’s most recent Muslim outreach director, “participated in a meeting in mid September that was attended by several controversial Muslim activists,” Jim Popkin, NBC News Senior Investigative Producer, reported late last evening.

The Obama campaign now concedes that was a misjudgment, and that its top Muslim staffer would not have attended the meeting if she had known the full participant list beforehand. …

On September 15, newly named Muslim outreach director Minha Husaini spoke to a small group of Muslim leaders and potential Obama supporters at a hotel in Springfield, Virginia, several meeting participants and the campaign said. Two other Obama-affiliated Democratic Party workers joined Husaini and also spoke to the crowd.

This is not the problem. Susan Schmidt reported in the Wall Street Journal

PARTICIPANTS INCLUDED leaders of the Council of American-Islamic Relations and the Muslim American Society [MAS], which have been cited by the government in the past for ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.

Schmidt writes the U.S. Justice Department “has asserted in court proceedings that [MAS]’s organizers were members of the Muslim Brotherhood, a global group promoting political Islam.”

THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE:

1981-1983 = William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?

1987 = William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago

1988 = Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education

1989 = Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.

1993 = Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation

1995 = Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge

1995 = Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)

2007-2008 = The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars (many of it from foreign Middle East sources).

2008 = Obama, in response to ABC News, tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and that they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances.

Emm,

For the record, there have also been plenty of attempts by the RNC to block eligible voters. Trying to prevent people with foreclosures from voting, purging eligible voters from rolls and whatnot.

How can you trust him to do what he says on taxes, education, health care?

Obama is LYING about Ayers:

“Why don’t we just clear it up right now,” Obama told ABC News’ Charlie Gibson in an exclusive interview for World News. “I’ll repeat again what I’ve said many times. This is a guy who engaged in some despicable acts 40 years ago when I was eight years old. By the time I met him, 10 or 15 years ago, he was a college professor of education at the University of Illinois . . . And the notion that somehow he has been involved in my campaign, that he is an adviser of mine, that . . . I’ve ‘palled around with a terrorist’, all these statements are made simply to try to score cheap political points.”

But Obama LIED about Ayers. The two have a relationship that goes back many years during which Ayers continued to express his profoundly anti-American views. Ayers helped launch Obama’s political career and has been at his side throughout Obama’s early career.

Obama is LYING about ACORN:

Madeline Talbott, lead organizer of the Chicago ACORN community organization: “Barack has proven himself among our members. He is committed to organizing, to building a democracy. Above all else, he is a good listener, and we accept and respect him as a kindred spirit, a fellow organizer.”

Obama LIED about Rev. Wright:

“The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation.” — Barack Hussein Obama March 14, 2008

DON'T EVEN MENTION THE FAKE COLB !...

Obama lies about who and what he really is...

How can anyone believe his promises in this presidential campaign?

Delay the return from IRAQ to get elected ?

Washington Times:
Obama tried to sway Iraqis on Bush deal
In private conversations on troop presence, candidate pitched delay

"In Texas, over 4,000 DEAD PEOPLE are on the voting registration books — and some of those people were dead during the primaries, but voted anyway."

Big difference between voter registration fraud and voter fraud. How could those dead people vote?

For heavens sake. A trade group has a MEDIA LIST. People on that list get a press release from Obama. Trade group accuses Obama group of stealing it?
It is a media list. I did not know the media hid their e-mail addresses from anybody. I do not know what is stupider,this accusation or a member of the national media covering it.

I suppose McCain/Palin are below common civility which is why they feel obliged to incite their supporters to call their opponent a "terrorist". Even if you think he was involved in voter fraud-which he is not- he certainly is no terrorist. Elected officials DO get subject to background checks, you know.

OBAMA LIED ABOUT HIS ACORN Training sessions:

If you go to the current Fight the Smears website today and read up on Barack Obama's connections with ACORN this is what you will find:
The Obama Campaign claims that Barack was never an ACORN trainer and that he was not associated with ACORN in 1992:

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992

However, The Cleveland Leader did some digging around in the internet archives and found some information that was recently erased by ACORN.

"Barack Obama's Involvement with ACORN Unearthed, Missing Article Recovered"

Hacking email, stealing email lists, voter fraud, what does it take to get people to understand that the Obama organization has decided it is above the law and anything goes?

Try this: when you see the commercials for those prime time specials, remember the hedge fund investors who have financed Obama. How did Obama pay?

That is your 401k and your child's college fund buying him prime time.

What is going on in the MSM today ?

did they feel the wind is turning BY reporting thousands of FRAUD attempts by Obama supporters ?

The NYT is reporting on illegal, fraudulent contributions to Obama’s campaign…over 3,000 gibberish, imaginary names that the Times was able to find, after reviewing only a small portion of Obama’s $450 million in donations.

The NY Post is also reporting that Obama-supporting ACORN bribed homeless people with cash and cigarettes to illegally register to vote 72 times in attempts to multi-vote fraudulently for Obama in Ohio.

CNN is reporting that thousands of voter registrations ACORN submitted for Obama in Indiana ARE FAKE: dead people, fictitious people, gibberish names. Indiana’s ACORN offices are now being investigated. That brings the total of states conducting ACORN/Obama investigations to 16.

In Texas, over 4,000 DEAD PEOPLE are on the voting registration books — and some of those people were dead during the primaries, but voted anyway. ACORN in Texas is now being investigated too.

Obama, Ayers, and Farrakhan all live within 2 blocks of each other...

There IS a RICO investigation of ACORN and the Obama campaign underway - this has now been established by the mainstream media. Right now it’s rumored here in Chicago that Patrick Fitzgerald is heading it (confirmation on that has not come yet). There is a lot of activity in Chicago right now, with a lot of IRS agents looking into the finances coming in and out of this city, and across state lines (this was established on Monday when the GOP issued emergency press releases that much of Obama’s campaign contributions could very well be illegal foreign contributions - what appears to be deliberately poor record keeping designed to hide the true identities and monetary sources of online donors is at issue here). We see in 15 states now that ACORN is being busted for attempted voter fraud, and for fraudulent, illegal voter registratons in the hundreds of thousands, if not a million. The article below states, and we have confirmed this with people who know for sure, that the people who gathered evidence of Obama’s fraud and voter intimidation techniques during the primaries against Hillary Clinton are sharing everything they have with the Republican Party and the federal government.

What’s happening here is something we have never seen before: centrist Clinton Democrats and Republicans are working together to expose the DNC and Obama campaign’s illegal activities and orchestrated, coordinated fraud. Both parties are working with federal agents to investigate ACORN, which has been funded with upwards of $800,000 in questionable donations from the Obama campaign (in what appears to be the expressed and explicit direction to engineer voter fraud in the general election). The tactics being employed now in the 15 states currently under investigation are the VERY SAME TACTICS we saw on the ground in Iowa, Texas, Colorado, Nebraska, Indiana, and other states working for Hillary Clinton in the primaries.

And all of this ties back to Chicago.

Where the Obama campaign and DNC are now based.

Where people we know tip us off to little things to pay attention to that, when pieced together with all the other little pieces that are revealing themselves, leads to a single conclusion: there will be indictments for all of this.

We don’t know when they will come — but they will come. There is just too much here to ignore.

For goodness' sakes, the certificate they produced shows the exact hour and minute Obama was born.

BOTH Obama and McCain are US citizens. This is a non-issue.

When will some of you get it in that Obama DOES not want to take away people's guns. He just wants more regulations so it's not so easy for criminals or people planning a murder spree to get their hands on them. Sure, he's no gun lover, but even if he WANTED to take away your guns, he couldn't. It has to pass through so many things are right now the majority of Supreme Court Justices are conservatives. Even if he appointed more liberal Supreme Court Justices, it wouldn't even be a majority enough to overturn the Second Amendment.

We used to hang out at the bar in Punkin Center, Missouri. The beer buddies were great fun. We went hunting on the weekends. But I would not vote for any of them for President. ................

C'mon people. Read my post. Rat, McCain being a citizen is not enough, but as I and others have pointed out, the Senate granted him NBC status last year.

James
I'll show you yours' when you show me yours'!! Obamas mommy is American, his daddy is African and he was born outside of the U.S.. Both of Johns parents are "AMERICAN". COM-PRE-HEND?

James feels the need to repost his problem with McCain. Here's my answer again.

James, what I wrote was that:

the issue is moot since there was no anticipation of it during the time the requirements for presidency were written.

There have been no challenges to the requirement since.

If the issue of McCain's NBC status was seriously a problem, the Supreme Court would be the body which would have to make a ruling on it.

Given the make up of the current Supreme Court, it is most likely that they would rule in favor of granted NBC status to Gov. McCain.

Since no one is willing to go all the way to the SC and push for an immediate ruling, due to time constraints as well as my previous point that they would most likely rule in favor of granting him NBC status, the issue is moot.

Obama's citizenship status is another story with other factors involved that could easily be settled if he would only provide the required documents to the court that has ordered their submission. He has not done this which is why there is such a ruckus. If he's unwilling to prove legit status, the assumption is that he can't, regardless of his past claims that he has cooperated. The proof is in the pudding.

Louis Farrakhan Declares Obama the Messiah

Louis Farrakhan: the leader of Nation of Islam...
Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, another powerful Chicago-based political figure associated with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and other long-time associates of Democratic Party presidential candidate Barack Obama, is leaving no doubt about what he thinks of the leader in the campaign for the White House.

He says when Obama talks "the Messiah is absolutely speaking."
Drudge Report is running this….

Farrakhan on Obama: ‘The Messiah is absolutely speaking’
‘Barack has captured the youth,’ will bring about ‘universal change’

How and WHY did the Republican Party just get an 8 million $$ bailout from failing Wachovia Bank? The shareholders get stiffed, but Wachovia has the money to "loan" the Repubs 8 million. They can't loan small companies money to meet their payrolls, but they can come up with 8 million for the Repubs to run their campaign on.

Heading back to college this fall? Rupert Murdoch will be waiting.

In May, his Fox News subsidiary bought a stake in a Web video-based college news network featuring student reporters called Palestra. This fall, he'll be ramping up the partnership.

What FOX NEWS DOESNT TELL YOU WITH THIS ACORN STUFF:

FOX NEWS OWNS PALESTRA.NET

FOX NEWS SAY ITS A COLLAGE NESS NETWORK THATS DOING ALL THIS REPORTING...

FOX NEWS OWNS PALSETRA!

commrat72

Q.
Why wont john mccain show his birth certificate ????

A.
Because he is not a natural born citizen. He can not be President.

Why won't Brotha Obama show his certificate in the light? Its not a hard thing to do,is it? McCains' dad and mom are citizens of the U.S. and I believe he was at the Panama zone where he was stationed in the USNAVY. This thing with Obama not opening up his credentials to all doesn't pass the stink test. Just like all the rest of his lunatic fringe!

To be President you have to be a natural born citizen:

Constitution setting out who is eligible to be president. Article II, which also specifies that a person must be at least 35 years old, says "No person except a natural born Citizen" can be president.

Barack Obama was born in the US so he can McCain wasnt so he can't.

Sen. McCain is undoubtedly a citizen. He was born on Aug. 29, 1936, in the Panama Canal Zone, and Congress has specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents, as he was, is a citizen. Indeed, the general rule is that anyone born of U.S. parents outside the United States is a citizen.

But is John McCain a natural born citizen? The Constitution does not define the term further, and legal scholars say the notes of the Constitution's drafters shed little light on what they meant. It seems clear only that the founders wanted to make certain that whoever was president would be loyal to the U.S. alone and not to some other country. But the term "natural born citizen," many scholars say, was not in common use at the time the Constitution was written.

In 1964, the Supreme Court ruled that "natural born" meant born inside the United States. In an opinion on an unrelated issue, the court observed, "The rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the 'natural born' citizen is eligible to be President."

U.S. 'never had sovereignty' over Canal Zone Besides, many legal scholars say the Canal Zone never was sovereign U.S. territory. In a February 1978 speech to the nation on the Panama Canal Treaty, heavily vetted by government lawyers, President Carter said, "We have never had sovereignty over it. We have only had the right to use it. The US Supreme Court and previous American presidents have repeatedly acknowledged the sovereignty of Panama over the Canal Zone."

$300 BILLION IN ADDITIONAL TAX DOLLARS TO BAIL OUT BANKS WITH BAD MORTGAGE DEBT

We will not stand for McCain's SOCIALIST policies!

Hahahaha

Jake, welcome back! I hope you had a terrific holiday!

You DO know that 40% of voters registered by acorn are REPUBLICANS right? Notice you guys never mention that part.

ELECTION 2008
Farrakhan on Obama: 'The Messiah is absolutely speaking'

Washington Times?

Hahahaha

Do you ever consider your sources? The Weekly World News is more credible. But you probrbaly think that the "I hate Obama" sites are giving you the "real facts".

Looks like someone has gone to Fox's site this morning, where 5 of 6 taglines are anti-Obama and the other is "Palin Cleared". (Nah, no bias in their reporting right? They say so every 20 minutes.)

(And the investigation report hasn't come out yet. Odd that McCain/Parrot are trying to pre-empt the results isn't it?)

ACORN, ACORN, ACORN... please report. Obama paid them $800.000 to register new voters.

Obama is a deceptive liar.. I hope the American people can see clearly how disturbing his character is before election day. Swiping lists... low.

Ahhhh Jake, here we are with a second go round and you missed the boat again. Seems the WashingtonTimes is reporting yet another act of treason committed by Obama (they are saying it is an exclusive so I am assuming this is his second act of treason) Perhaps you should go look it up and REPORT THE NEWS!

$300 BILLION MORE TAX DOLLARS to bail out banks with bad mortgages?

I'm tired of that SOCIALIST McCain!

The next four weeks is going ot be fun.

The campaign has gotten so negative in the last week. Obama is running a pro-gun comerical in Pennsylvania.

VOTE NO on PROP 8 in California.

Hey Jake, the real Headline should read, Obama and ACORN try to STEAL election from American Voters!" Let's see.....no associate of Akers? Right! Not an assoicate of Rev. Wright and his church? Right! No assoication with the group ACORN? Right! No associations with known radical groups and their cronies? Right!No sweet dealings with Resko? Right! Never took 1 dime from Fannie or Freedie? Right!You see a pattern here? Right! Middle class America is gonna get hammered by Obamas' taxes. Hell....he even adnits it. Oh BTW.....get ready to be pulled into the top 5% because they will just increase the cost of their product to offset the tax hike imposed on them. DOUBLE WHAMMY!! Obama cares about the middle class? Right!!

Posted by: Bob | Oct 10, 2008 5:56:56 AM

how about bho supporting odingo...?

Right, bl.

Citizenship and Natural Born Citizen are two different things.

McCain was born to American parents abroad and therefore, by proxy received US citizenship status at birth.

The question was whether he fulfills the requirement of being a NBC to be President.

In my previous post, I explained that there would have to be a ruling. Supreme Court, and/or as you point out, the Senate. So it's a dead end issue now.

Posted by: JAMES | Oct 10, 2008 2:22:31 AM

wrong again.
mccain was born of american parents and is natural born. there is NO PROOF WHERE BHO WAS BORN. you can say ha, but no one has shown documentation to that fact.
the senate validated in a vote last year that mccain was a natural born citizen.

Posted by: JAMES | Oct 10, 2008 2:46:00 AM

show the certificate... you are the only one who has seen the BIRTH CERTIFICATE. if it was available, there would not be a suit challenging his citizenship...the judge would have immediately dropped the suit. there are two different hospitals in question in ha that people say he was born in.. no proof.

"In any case, isn't it time the media start giving equal time to Palin's buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?"

Again, for the hundredth time, Gov. Palin is not running for President, Obama is.

James, what I wrote was that:

the issue is moot since there was no anticipation of it during the time the requirements for presidency were written.

There have been no challenges to the requirement since.

If the issue of McCain's NBC status was seriously a problem, the Supreme Court would be the body which would have to make a ruling on it.

Given the make up of the current Supreme Court, it is most likely that they would rule in favor of granted NBC status to Gov. McCain.

Since no one is willing to go all the way to the SC and push for an immediate ruling, due to time constraints as well as my previous point that they would most likely rule in favor of granting him NBC status, the issue is moot.

Obama's citizenship status is another story with other factors involved that could easily be settled if he would only provide the required documents to the court that has ordered their submission. He has not done this which is why there is such a ruckus. If he's unwilling to prove legit status, the assumption is that he can't, regardless of his past claims that he has cooperated. The proof is in the pudding.

Emm

State Department manual on U.S. citizenship has to say about children born on U.S. military installations:

Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

McCain is a citizen due to an act of Congress which specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents as he was, is a citizen.

But In 1964, the Supreme Court ruled that "natural born" meant born inside the United States.

I think the reason the GOP let McCain win is because they know who every the gop put up is going to lose.. Better to waste mccain cuz he cant even be president anyway.

If anything is a nightmare is the McCain/Palin ticket

Oh, hey, jt.

A follow up on McCain's NBC status. The founding fathers had not anticipated this sort of situation, and the question of a candidate's citizenship status has never been a problem before (just one time when Arizona was a territory). There has been no precedent ruling to establish it one way or the other.

It's most likely, however, that, given the area of grayness, the Supreme Court would rule in favor of granting Natural Born Citizen status to a person born by military parents stationed in the PCZ.

bl

Barack Obama has released his birth cert. and the hospital of his birth has confirmed the bith there.

The McCain campaign has declined to publicly release his birth certificate

YheaI agree with you there Bush Senior and Bin Laden were friends then they had a big falling out over What? MONEY of course. MONEY changes everything.... Speaking of money how many homes do you think Obama could have provided the homless in America. if he had collected donations for his cause and still took the public financing for his campaign. I was reading somewher he has had over 250 million dollars given to his campaign how many homes could that buy, how many jobs would that create.... Oh no he just has to blow it on looking hooked up with huge backers, uhm I wonder if all those individuals live in America and how many violatet the 4,600.00 maixmum donation rule. Oh let me guess Obama is not aware or will he claim credit for the blunders of his campaign managers. I thought he was using his experience at running a campaign as experience to run the country.... Well that's hilarious, if your gonna take credit running a campaign as experience to run a country, you might as well take credit for the screw ups as well because if you throw that out, your portfolio is again lacking. So which is it Is Obama running his campaign or his is campaign managers runnig his campaign.... Someone is screwing up which one is going to claim the credit for having to return so many donations that were given and taken in violation to the campaign rules???

George W. Bush's family has financial ties with the Bin Ladens

Posted by: Blue | Oct 10, 2008 12:21:37 AM

there has never been released a BIRTH CERTIFICATE(which is different from a cerificate of live birth) that states where bho was born. the colb only says it was filled out in HA. the bc would give the hospital, etc, PROVING location of birth.
in order for a baby to be a citizen form a parent, bho, the parent must have lived in the us for ten years, AND, five years after their 14th birthday. bho's mother was 18...not eligible for this clause if born in kenya. however, the question is not just about birth, but whether he became a citizen of indonesia when his mother married soetoro. bho was regitered in school in indinesia as barry soetoro, and as indonesian. this citizenship would disqualify him. then there would also need to be proof he changed his name back to obama, and that he pledged allegiance to the us at age 18, as stipulated.

landsend

Its make no differnece:

State Department manual on U.S. citizenship has to say about children born on U.S. military installations:

Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

McCain is a citizen due to an act of Congress which specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents as he was, is a citizen.

But In 1964, the Supreme Court ruled that "natural born" meant born inside the United States.

so, james says mccain can't be president

and jackie allen says obama can't be president.

wow, you folks must be rich

tonight might be the only time obama and mccain join together in laughter
at this stuff about their births.

what say the rest of you?

are you with jackie or james?
lets get this birth and birth certificate stuff straight right now,
we all can stay home from work, and sort this out.
Work? hey, this economy just put us out of our jobs. now no health ins, no retirement.
but obama and mccain "with their no us births, and no birth certs, managed to get into the senate and get good ins. and good jobs, and good retirement.
while we are sit here trying to sort out their births.
and jackie allen and james, i must say,
i never thought of that before,
we may as well keep bush, neither of these two can be president.
and one day they will find out.
nov fourth-none of the above won.
we will have to keep bush.

Jackie Allen

Barack Obama's mom was always American and Barack was born in America. He is natural born.

Sen. McCain is undoubtedly a citizen, He however is not a natural born citizen and therefor not eligible to be president under Article II No person except a natural born Citizen" can be president.

jackie Allen
re: "Don't you think we have screwed our veterans enough already."

yes, the Iraq war was a blunder of epic proportions.
time to bring them home.....

james you forgot to mention that mccain was born on a u.s military base.

on the other hand in the case involving berg versus obama the implication is that he was born in kenya thus the judge has ordered for obama to present a vault birth certificate and other documents.

John McCain was born on an army base in Panama, and both of his parents were American citizens and if both parents are serving in the armed forces and both are American citizens you have the same birth rights.... What kind of service would people be willing to give to their country, if they knew that they were serving their country in another country at the time of their child's birth there for they forfiet the child AMERICAN birth rights..... Don't you think we have screwed our veterans enogh already.... Obamas mother was an American citizen but not for the five year time frame required, and not Obamas father was not an American citizen period.

"Whether the American system is beyond redemption we will have to wait and see. But we can be certain that black patience has run out, and unless white America responds positively to the theory and activity of Black Power, then a bloody, protracted civil war is inevitable."

"What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God's love."

No, that's what Black Liberation Theology teaches. That's what an 0bamanation will bring.

jt

To be President you have to be a natural born citizen:

Constitution setting out who is eligible to be president. Article II, which also specifies that a person must be at least 35 years old, says "No person except a natural born Citizen" can be president.

Barack Obama was born in the US so he can McCain wasnt so he can't.

Sen. McCain is undoubtedly a citizen. He was born on Aug. 29, 1936, in the Panama Canal Zone, and Congress has specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents, as he was, is a citizen. Indeed, the general rule is that anyone born of U.S. parents outside the United States is a citizen.

But is John McCain a natural born citizen? The Constitution does not define the term further, and legal scholars say the notes of the Constitution's drafters shed little light on what they meant. It seems clear only that the founders wanted to make certain that whoever was president would be loyal to the U.S. alone and not to some other country. But the term "natural born citizen," many scholars say, was not in common use at the time the Constitution was written.

In 1964, the Supreme Court ruled that "natural born" meant born inside the United States. In an opinion on an unrelated issue, the court observed, "The rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the 'natural born' citizen is eligible to be President."

U.S. 'never had sovereignty' over Canal Zone Besides, many legal scholars say the Canal Zone never was sovereign U.S. territory. In a February 1978 speech to the nation on the Panama Canal Treaty, heavily vetted by government lawyers, President Carter said, "We have never had sovereignty over it. We have only had the right to use it. The US Supreme Court and previous American presidents have repeatedly acknowledged the sovereignty of Panama over the Canal Zone."

thinking,
what are you talking about?

OMG! OMG! OMG! NO say it isn't so!

Must be their members are all out of work now and can't pay the dues, so thyee will try and get it from Obama>

mara

you are wise........ thank you...

Quick Question:

Lets say 100 white people walk into a bank to get a mortgage and 100 black people walk into the same bank to get a mortgage.

If 60 whites got mortgages, people like 0bama/ACORN, Dodd, and Frank think that if 60 blacks didn't get mortgages that the bank was practicing racial discrimination.

No other factors considered.

Jackie Allen

Aussie has a good post earlier I think you should read!

"With the information provided due to this order the Plaintiff's where able to prove that that the Defendant-bank rejected loan applications of minority applicants while approving loan applications filed by white applicants with similar financial characteristics and credit histories."

Strange, that doesn't appear anywhere in the case documents I read.

Concerned in Ohio - You maybe should run that by Waarren Buffett. He's a big fan of America, of capitalism, and he does not buy that baloney. He believes that the credit default swaps - which Phil Gramm snuck through congress - were at the center of this meltdown - as does almost everyone else. He calls them weapons of financial mass destruction.

Phil Gramm was John McCain's co-chair, his economic advisor and i a solid Republican - who helped ruin ourr economy - and walk away a multi-millionaire. Remember? John McCain's co-chiar, just a few months ago, told us the economic mess was "mental." Can you imagine what kind of advisors this man would choose for president? Looked at a paper lately? Americans blame the economy on the Republicans by a ratio of a little over 2:1. That means lots of Reublicans don't buy the hogwash, either.

Do the research, I personally find researching different things quite intresting, however if you want the information seek and you shall find if your serioius about what your looking for....

And for those who keep saying that people should not be linking Obama to Ayers because what Ayers did was when Obama was 9 years old... If Obama didn't do his homework before serving on some board with someone and finding out the truth about who they were and what they've done. Obama must have had a clue, it's not like it wasn't on the news. Obama is only a few weeks younger then my-self and I heards about william Ayers, heck a lady that stayed under the radar all those years ago was apperhended about 10 miles from where I live today. She had a family, kids and grand kids, she had a good life that didn't keep her from doing time in prison, she is still doing that time, one of the bombings she took part in bombing someone died. He was somone's daddy, someone's husband, someone's son, and someone's brother.... whether she feel's bad about it now isn't realavent... However, Ayers and his wife sat here on public T.V. and announced that they didn't feel they did enough and wished they had done more, I suppose Obama isn't aware of that either let me guess he didn't see the interview.

Well if you want to know what's coming up ask Obnama what eles he is hiding that he has attempted t