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Kissimmee, Kate! -- Bill Clinton Heralds Obama's 'Do' List; How Obama Called the Clintons to 'Understand' the Financial Crisis
October 30, 2008 7:28 AM
KISSIMMEE, FLORIDA -- “Look at this crowd -– it’s not only big, it is highly diverse," former President Bill Clinton told a crowd of 35,000 outside Orlando last night. "You even have a few white haired guys like me -– you haven't cut my demographic out!"
It was the first joint campaign appearance between Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and the former president ever since the former felled the latter's wife in the primaries. It was just August when the 42nd president hemmed and hawed when ABC News' Kate Snow asked him if Obama is qualified to be president.
That is no longer operative, apparently.
Clinton took on the GOP's economic arguments -- "They talk about redistributing the wealth? They just presided over the biggest redistribution of wealth upward since the 1920s and we all know how that ended!" -- and he heralded what Obama stands for.
"Let me tell you, folks, and this is again something I can say because I’m not running for anything -- the historical record shows that virtually every person ever elected president does his best to actually do what they say they’re gonna do in the campaign, and Barack Obama’s 'Do' list is the better 'Do' list."
Clinton's explanations of why Obama is qualified were interesting, to say the least.
"You know what he did?" Clinton said, heralding Obama's reaction to the financial crisis. "First, he took a little heat for not saying much. I knew what he was doing. He talked to his advisers -– he talked to my economic advisers, he called Hillary. He called me. He called Warren Buffet. He called all those people -- you know why? Because he knew it was complicated and before he said anything, he wanted to understand."
Got that?
"If we have not learned anything, we have learned that we need a president that wants to understand and who can understand," Clinton said.
Thank heaven the Clintons were there to help Obama understand!
"The second thing -- and this meant more to me than anything else, and I haven't cleared this with him and he may even be mad at me for saying this, so close to the election -- but I know what else he said to his economic advisers -- he said, 'Tell me what the right thing to do is. What's the right thing for America? Don't tell me what's popular, you tell me what's right, I'll figure it out and sell it.'
"That's what a president does in a crisis," Clinton said, "what is right for America."
-- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
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After how Clinton wrecked Hillary's campaign in the primaries, if I were Obama, I'd say, uh no thanks Clinton - don't speak for me!
Posted by: junior | Oct 31, 2008 10:38:28 PM
Reports from that meeting indicate the questions asked were precisely on point and extremely relevant, and aided the exchange of information, not detracted from it.
Posted by: pefros | Oct 30, 2008 5:45:38 PM
Grey Matter said: "Reports from Dems and Repubs there say McCain didn't contribute anything and sat there quietly for forty minutes while Obama was asking questions."
The point of that meeting was to listen to the financial people attending. It was Obama's interference in the discussion that turned the whole thing into a shouting and finger-pointing session.
Posted by: cappamore | Oct 30, 2008 5:40:03 PM
lOVE THAT BILL - HE'S A PUMA.
TRYING TO TELL US WHY OBAMA'S NOT QUALIFIED, WHILE HE'S SUPPOSEDLY CAMPAIGNING FOR HIM.
DON'T WORRY BILL, HILLARY'S SUPPORTERS KNOW "THE ONE" IS A MANUFACTURED CANDIDATE, AND WE'RE STILL NOT WILLING TO BUY A CANDIDATE WHO WAS SELECTED, NOT ELECTED.
PRINCIPLE BEFORE PARTY
MCCAIN/PALIN 2008
Posted by: rrow | Oct 30, 2008 4:20:53 PM
"To hear Clinton talk about how many people Obama called for help, one would think he isn't ready to lead."
That's not thinking.
One would think, if they actually are thinking, that it shows Obama is wise enough to take the advice and consider the views of many when a serious complex issue arises. That's a bad thing, how exactly?
Posted by: Aengil | Oct 30, 2008 2:39:24 PM
To hear Clinton talk about how many people Obama called for help, one would think he isn't ready to lead.
Posted by: Maria | Oct 30, 2008 2:01:16 PM
"Thank heaven the Clintons were there to help Obama understand!"
Jake are you writing news or editorials?
I guess it's apparent you are writing editorials, opinion pieces - not news.
My immediate response is to remind you of President John F. Kennedy who was well known for consulting widely - to bring in information from different advisors and angles so as to better understand the breadth of any issue.
And then he would use that information to make his own decisions.
Your writing "Thank heaven the Clintons were there to help Obama understand!" is a cheap shot intended to diminish a very sensible and considered approach.
If you're writing opinion pieces, please identify them as such - and don't try to pass them off as news.
Posted by: pefros | Oct 30, 2008 2:00:00 PM
Clinton pointed out twice that Obama had to call Big Bubba and Hillary for advice on what to do....
Bill still isn't giving Obama any real ringing endorsements.
Posted by: Michelle | Oct 30, 2008 1:01:57 PM
Greg h: "You elect Presidents to make executive decisions and not be weak and indecisive consulting others."
We're electing President. God is not running for President. You don't get to elect the all-knowing.
Whoever is President is NOT, repeat, NOT going to be an expert in everything. If they make decisions without consulting others, then they're not only going to be a terrible President, they're going to be a dangerous President.
'Consulting others' is a good thing. It is not weak and indecisive. You know what is weak? NOT consulting others for fear of appearing indecisive. That's really weak.
Posted by: Aengil | Oct 30, 2008 12:37:49 PM
Not my comment but: "So the 3 AM call came? And Hillary still had to take it?"
Posted by: Spade | Oct 30, 2008 12:25:00 PM
Corey B,
Of course I have no problem with that.
But she was not being honest about it. She marketed herself as fighting government pork when she actually supported it! Said she sold the jet on ebay and made a profit when she didn't!
I don't understand why she even has to lie about the ebay jet. To appear more folksy? There's something seriously wrong with that.
I wouldn't have a problem if she came out and said "Well, the Bridge to Nowhere was a bad choice in retrospect, but at that time I thought it would be something really beneficial for the Alaskan people." Instead she brags about how she "fought" it. I didn't like that.
Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 30, 2008 11:41:26 AM
grey Matter-
Everyone make mistakes and she did not go against her own people of Alaska. They wanted it the bridge, she did not but still let the people of Alaska get their wish. A true politician will be on the side of the people regardless of their belief.
Posted by: Corey B | Oct 30, 2008 11:37:00 AM
Obama does not consider forcing people into the AMT brackets a "tax increase".
Posted by: geevill | Oct 30, 2008 11:37:00 AM
(From your cut-and-paste from Wiki)
Oh, I thought she sold the jet on e-bay? :)
[[Palin followed through on a campaign promise to sell the Westwind II jet, a purchase made by the Murkowski administration for $2.7 million in 2005 against the wishes of the legislature.[91] In August 2007, the jet was listed on eBay, but the sale fell through, and the plane was later sold for $2.1 million through a private brokerage firm.[92] ]]
So you admit she lied about the Bridge to Nowhere? She did not kill it, Congress killed it. She was for it all the while.
[[Later, as a vice-presidential candidate, emphasizing her efforts to end abuses of "earmark" spending, Palin characterized her position as having told Congress "thanks, but no thanks, on that bridge to nowhere." This angered many Alaskans in Ketchikan who said that the claim was false and a betrayal of Palin's previous support for their community.[111] Meanwhile, some critics complained that this statement was misleading, since she had repeatedly expressed support for the spending project and even kept the Federal money after the project was canceled.[112] Palin continues to support the Knik Arm project.[101]]]
Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 30, 2008 11:27:56 AM
Not to mention:
McCain: I will fire the SEC chairman!
(John! The President can't fire him!)
McCain: I knew that. But if I'm president, and I ask someone to resign, they'll resign alright.
Okay...What does THAT mean? Sounds abit sinister.
Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 30, 2008 11:23:26 AM
McCain records on his handling of the financial crisis.
1)
"the fundamentals of our economy are strong"
2)
“I do not believe that the American taxpayer should be on the hook for AIG,”
“We cannot have the taxpayers bail out AIG or anybody else.”
Minutes later
"the government was “forced” to rescue AIG because of “failed regulation, reckless management and a casino culture on Wall Street.”
3)
"I’m always for less regulation"
Posted by: CLabs | Oct 30, 2008 11:17:02 AM
marylou,
Please check the facts. He did not lower any threshold.
He has always been saying, AS LONG as you make less then $250 000 a year, your taxes will NOT go up.
But if you make even less: less than $200 000, your taxes will GO DOWN.
Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 30, 2008 11:10:58 AM
Yes indeedy do, Obama did lower his "wealth threshold" to $200,000 in last night's infomerical.
Don't worry; sooner or later he'll get to your income. At least you'll have the ego boost of knowing that your status is now "wealthy".
There's no way he can cut taxes to zero for seniors earning under $50,000 AND send tax refunds to the 40% of us (legal and illegal) who pay zero taxes without picking everyone's pocket.
Posted by: marylou | Oct 30, 2008 11:07:20 AM
Greg h
"Clinton confirmed that Obama was rather clueless and asking his help to understand the financial crisis."
OMG... this is baloney.
Obama has the smartest financial team in the whole campaign, people like Paul Volcker, Walther Buffet ...
Talking about clueless, McCain flunked his test as leader during the financial crisis.
Posted by: CLabs | Oct 30, 2008 11:06:38 AM
In the New Democratic lexicon, inexperience is a qualification, having to call dozens of people in order to form an opinion is leadership, and repeated mutterings of "uh, uh, uh" is silver-tongued statesmanship.
God help us!
Posted by: marylou | Oct 30, 2008 11:03:58 AM
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