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Let the Wild Charges Begin: McCain Campaign Insinuates Joe the Plumber's Private Records Were Illegally Breached as "Political Retribution" by the Obama Campaign, Compares it to Watergate
October 25, 2008 6:25 PM
The Columbus Dispatch reports that "state and local officials are investigating if state and law-enforcement computer systems were illegally accessed when they were tapped for personal information about 'Joe the Plumber,'" the nickname of Joe Wurzelbacher.
"Public records requested by The Dispatch disclose that information on Wurzelbacher's driver's license or his sport-utility vehicle was pulled from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database three times shortly after the debate. Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department. It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why. Direct access to driver's license and vehicle registration information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business."
Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and former Ohio Attorney General Betty Montgomery participated in a conference call set up by the McCain campaign to chat about this. (You can listen to the call HERE.)
Montgomery called for the inspector general in Ohio to immediately launch an investigation. "There are still very many questions to be answered," Montgomery said.
"In light of all of the allegations that are going on all over the country of voter fraud," Giuliani said, "to have this revelation also it seems to me to be something that is of really great concern to all of us."
"All Joe the Plumber did is ask a question," Giuliani said, giggling. "That should not open American citizens to having -- if this happened -- their private records probed because of some sort of political retribution. And if this is the way an Obama administration is going to conduct itself, the American people should know this before the fact."
When a reporter asked if there was any evidence that these records were breached by anyone with a political agenda, Giuliani said, "If this were someone on the Republican side you would not be asking the question." He said the inspector general needed to get to the bottom of why the information was sought.
When a reporter told Giuliani he was making some serious insinuations that the Obama campaign was involved in this, the former Mayor responded, "I don’t know if this came from the Obama campaign or not, but I think we have a right to find out. It is curious…"
Alluding to the Watergate break-in, Montgomery said it may be that this was "just a 'third-rate burglary,' quote, unquote, but it may not be, you never know."
"It does discourage people from asking questions," Giuliani said, "if they think that all of a sudden either at the direction of the campaign or just spontaneously all their personal records are going to get revealed if they ask a difficult question."
-- jpt
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I am frightened that Obama is going to be elected.
I read about what Chavez is doing to Venezuela, and what Ahmadinejad is doing in Iran, and I wonder how much of a police state Obama will force down our throats.
Pay your taxes and shut up. Don't question the Messiah President. If you do, you are a racist and will go to prison. Disagree with us and we will look at your private records and make them public. Make the mistake of asking Obama and Biden and their Mob a question that they don't like, and you are banned from asking any more.
Now I know why Obama was so popular in Germany...Maybe he can bring goose stepping back in vogue.
Posted by: Howard Rosen | Oct 28, 2008 1:55:07 PM
Obey - don't question, just Obey. That way your tax records will remain private and your reputation intact.
Posted by: facts don't lie | Oct 26, 2008 5:44:26 PM
jbyron - A good post, possibly the best on this blog.
Posted by: facts don't lie | Oct 26, 2008 5:42:43 PM
Chris - I heard that those people yelling at the Palin rallies were actually plants from the Democrats put there to discredit the Republicans.
Posted by: facts don't lie | Oct 26, 2008 5:38:39 PM
FACTS learn to practice critical thinking and discernment.
Instead of just repeating garbage over and over
Posted by: WeSupportObama | Oct 26, 2008 2:01:48 PM
Chris,
You are grasping there. The disclosure of Joe's personal information is simply an attempt to smear him. It is political retribution because he dared to question "The One". That liberal minded people can't see this and do not support the privacy rights of Joe is testament to the Hypocrisy of the left and the media and investigative silence in this regard is deafening. Imagine if you don't Agree with Obama, will you be investigated? Will you be accused of being Racist, or Bigot or of hate crimes? What a way to shut down free speech in America. I am sure even some liberals must see this as dangerous precedent. But who knows they may turn a blind eye because its their guy. Zieg Heil Obama.
Posted by: Tom | Oct 26, 2008 12:46:00 PM
Maybe the Secret Service wanted the state and local goverment to do a check on Wurzelbacher. With people yelling to kill Sen Obama at Palin rallies wouldn't you want to be careful? Wouldn't we all want that if the situation were reversed?
Posted by: Chris | Oct 26, 2008 11:34:58 AM
Guiliani is just mad because Bloomberg got approval to run for a third term because this financial crisis is obviously a much bigger deal in NY then the 9-11 crisis was.
It may even take Obama 3 or 4 terms to get us out of the Bush mess.
Posted by: Obey | Oct 26, 2008 10:41:40 AM
Wow the Obama camp seems to be so interested in everyone elses private records but doesn't dare produce their own.
1. Why did we only get one page of Obama medical record? I guess the public has no business knowing if the self confessed drug addicted Obama, was in Drug Rehab or not.
2. Why has Obama refused to release the long form version of his Birth Certificate? When a forgery was first submitted as fact but then found out to be false removed from sight then a copy of a Birth Certificate was produced but the long form which would include ammendments has never been produced
3. Where is Obama's College Thesis? From one of the most articulate, clean, candidates for President in a generation I think America deserves a glimpse of some inner thoughts.
NOTE: Any Liberal that will argue for Privacy to protect their Rights but refuses to recognize that a Citizen's privacy was just breached for Political retribution is a fraud.
Posted by: FACTS | Oct 26, 2008 10:35:35 AM
Every election it's the same thing. One party blaming another for the problems that exist in our country. This speaks to the essence of what is wrong in Washington. Everyone is there for themselves, not for their constituents. Not for the greater good. This is true from the municipal level to to Washington. All of the people around McCain and Obama are there for themselves not the candidate. They all expect that if their candidate wins there will be a big fat candy apple for them. Politics has done to our country what religion has done to God. History will tell you that. When I read the comments of others some of you actually are pretty scary. A lot of you sound like nutbags. It's the rare occasion when I run into someone who really understands what's going on. It's personal greed and selfishness that has put us where we are not the politicians. Maybe if we cut up alot of our credit cards and saved a little money, things would be much different. Elections have become little more than organized arguments. Look at the lengths people are willing to go to
just to win an argument. The truth is both parties are to blame for our current mess. I believe Bush has made mistakes, but I also believe congress has made even more. It's funny; Obama wants change and McCain wants reform. Aren't they the same? Every candidate who's run for something has promised the same thing......change! Funny thing is nothing changes. It's like a bad Broadway play..... the cast changes from time to time but the story is the same and so is the ending. Politics brings out the worst in us not the best. Nothing will change in Washington or at State or even municipal levels until government actually does what's best. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. A good start would be the press becoming neutral. That include the PAC also known as CNN and Time magazine. I could go on but I'm getting sick to my stomach.
Posted by: jbyron | Oct 26, 2008 10:31:26 AM
Joe the GED recipient. Hopefully! Fingers crossed! The third time is the charm. Don't they just pass you the third time you take it no matter what?
Posted by: Chris | Oct 26, 2008 10:25:33 AM
I don't want to hear what the "Obama campaign" is doing to this guy. He is doing it to himself. He is booking interviews with news organizations. You open yourself up to the campaign game if you do that. This guy just needs to finish his GED and move on.
Posted by: Chris | Oct 26, 2008 10:22:44 AM
Comments on here are staggering.
Obama went in this mans neighborhood he was solicited by Obama for input. Just because he asked a question that did not fit the Obama model he gets attacked and of all people, Liberal minded folks, defend the attack as valid? What has happened to this great country. If I happen to not agree with Obama on an issue and I am public about it, must I be shut down for the good of the nation? Selling out your principles over politics is scary indeed.
BTW Tax information is never PUBLIC information, again comments from those that say they are the defenders of Privacy just astounds me.
Posted by: Tom | Oct 26, 2008 10:18:30 AM
As a business owner for 30 years I flourished under Clinton and watched those profits slowly slip away under Bush.
Any smart business owner with a PLAN knows that you reinvest, it's written off your taxes on which you pay only on your net profit.
For someone like me with a small business that grosses around $1 million annually, I never came close to falling into the top tax brackets. I live in Hawaii with mandated employee health care, a fairly high state income tax and have still managed to grow my business until Bush free trade policies eroded my marketplace with cheap unregulated products from Asia. It doesn't matter that after the fact the government say oops, we should have had more inspectors in place..the damage was done. This one small business owner who believes in a free trade system, but in the Bush era it has been a one way street, with no checks and balances, ie. regulations...so that why its Obamba/Biden in 08, no more GOP for me.
Posted by: hilodave | Oct 26, 2008 9:59:05 AM
It is a sad state to see the American people at each other...is there a rational, unbiased opinion anywhere today? All I hear underlying most of these comments is hatred and anger. It is fair to say both sides of this political debate has something to support and to attack. Let's stop acting like a bunch of bullies on the playgroung screaming obsceneties at each other and enjoying when the ugly kid gets it in the teeth.
Posted by: dawn | Oct 26, 2008 9:40:53 AM
I can't exhale until I hear the blissful sound of U-Hauls pulling up to White House to move Bush OUT! Let's hope for all our sake's Washington can stay Republican-free for not only as long as it takes to clean up the horrible mess they've made, but long into the future. Go Obama!!! As for the last desperate, dying gasps of the McCain camp's efforts at slinging mud . . .I think all intelligent Americans see it for what it is. The election is over, and we all know it.
Posted by: Vermonter | Oct 26, 2008 9:37:07 AM
Once McCain used Joe's full name on National Television, reporters where always going to follow up on him, especially given the amount of times he was referred to in the debate. How did McCain get his surname? Did Joe offer it? If not, how did they find that out? Didn't they get his permission to use his name? Joe seems OK with it - he looks happy to be interviewed. I guess if he is happy to have himself held up by McCain as some kind of role model for Middle Class American, then he's going to have to understand that who he is and what he stands for gets scrutinised by the press.
Posted by: chester burns | Oct 26, 2008 9:35:32 AM
Same old Republican tactics, when joe the imaginary plumber is exposed with facts about joe the wannabe plumber, it's the Dem's fault, it's the media's fault.
They try to feed us a load of crap and then whine when we don't swallow. How stupid do they think the American people are?
Posted by: blindhowlin | Oct 26, 2008 9:33:37 AM
Leins, professional licenses, all of that stuff you can be found on the internet.
Posted by: Sam the Plumber | Oct 26, 2008 9:31:31 AM
Joe the plumber is not "just a guy that asked a question". He was used as a focal point in a presidential debate. And now people are shocked some basic background info about the guy was checked.
Get real.
Posted by: JV | Oct 26, 2008 9:27:05 AM
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