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McCain 1998: "Is This Guy Laden Really the Bad Guy That's Depicted?"

October 06, 2008 6:44 PM

The liberal blogosphere is atwitter with a 1998 Mother Jones Magazine interview -- first seemingly unearthed by Talking Points Memo -- with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that includes the following curious exchange about Osama bin Laden.

MJ: You not only have had combat experience in Vietnam, but you were also a prisoner of war. When you look at terrorism right now, with people like Osama bin Laden, do you have any reservations about watching strikes like that?

John McCain: You could say, Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted? Most of us have never heard of him before. And where there is a parallel with Vietnam is: What's plan B? What do we do next? We sent our troops into Vietnam to protect the bases. Lyndon Johnson said, Only to protect the bases. Next thing you know.... Well, we've declared to the terrorists that we're going to strike them wherever they live. That's fine. But what's next? That's where there might be some comparison.

The interview took place in September 1998, one month after the August 7, 1998, truck bombings of U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.

I would expect close Obama allies and perhaps even the Obama campaign to very soon start citing this interview, depicting McCain as not understanding and downplaying the terrorist threat back in 1998.

Fairly or unfairly.

The McCain campaign did not respond to a request for comment or an explanation as to what precisely McCain was trying to say in that interview 10 years ago.

-- jpt

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karen

I suggest you do a careful unbiased review of the last 8 years of Bush, Cheney and the republicans.

Posted by: jeru | Oct 7, 2008 12:34:30 PM

John MCcain will do whatever neds to be done to support the United states and this country,I have faith in him .
And in Sara Palin ,In my opinion he picked a woman that is patriotic and wants the best for education schools,etc If Obama was to get in his policies are not for us. Education would suffer,the regulations are already
starting to cut free speech.to Stop our freedoms,His thugs are guarding the polls,and inciting to destroy the voices of many at the opponents speeches and rallies,do we want a Dictator in to stop the freedoms we now have as our cherished rights,Vote down this dictator,
Dont wait for him to get in and see what he can do in 4 years!

Posted by: karen | Oct 7, 2008 11:48:30 AM

Well for five and a half years John McCain was not able to comment on Osama Bin Laden.

Posted by: ricky | Oct 7, 2008 10:56:30 AM

Both McCain and Obama have both made questionable decisions, have said stupid things and have voted for their own and their parties' interests. That's why they're called politicians. The truly amazing thing is that out of a population of 300 million people, these two are the best we could come up with. McCain is out of touch, and has no great plans for the hurting middle-class. Obama doesn't have the experience and has a questionable background. It comes down to voting for the lesser of two evils--which one is lying less, which one will do something, anything, to pull us out of our crumbling economy, which one will we "trust" as a nation. The choices are pretty bad...

Posted by: Portia | Oct 7, 2008 9:15:01 AM

Obama has been a Kenyan citizen according to his own website, school records show him as Indonesian. I have serious questions about where his loyalties lie, especially since he has been involved in Kenyan elections. McCain is a true patriot. He spent 4 years in a POW camp for us, I say we give him 4 years in the Whitehouse.

Posted by: JKIR | Oct 7, 2008 8:44:50 AM

Paulson and Cox should go to jail!

Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | Oct 7, 2008 7:34:42 AM

ABC Obama campain department is working overtime on this one. Track McCain down and torture him because he wanted to know more about Bin Laden. He wanted a plan B and god forbid to know where all of this was heading. This is the stupidest non-issue ever.

I am confident that Obama will probably pick a phrase out of this line of questions to bastardize as they have the rest of John McCain's record. Then when he is called a liar again, he will cry foul.

Jerks!

Posted by: ubu1991 | Oct 7, 2008 3:50:34 AM

Cheney had some pretty good insight in the post Gulf War 90's about why it wasn't a good idea to go ahead and get Saddam and take over Iraq.
Cheney of course, failed to take his own advice and led the charge into the current malaise of Iraq.

McCain did a similar thing, he knew that there had to be some real planning when go after terrorists. There had to be a fully thought out plan of attack along with real far reaching strategic insight. Present day McCain sings about bombing Iraq and jokes about war.
Seems the current McCain really does not understand the difference between tactics and strategy.

Posted by: Rex | Oct 7, 2008 1:48:58 AM

"But what's next?"

Yes, please tell us Senator McCain. If we're "winning" in Iraq, why aren't the troops coming home? When will they come home? What's the exit strategy?

You keep saying it's conditions on the ground but in the same breath you say we've won. Please tell us, what's next?

Posted by: cincyr | Oct 6, 2008 11:24:47 PM

Unfortunately, any lessons McCain learned from the Keating scandal didn't affect his unbridled enthusiasm for deregulating the finance industry.

"He continues to follow policies that create the same kind of environment we see today, with recurrent financial crises and epidemics of fraud led by CEOs," says Black, the former S&L regulator.

Indeed, if the current financial crisis has a villain, it is Phil Gramm, who remains close to McCain. As chair of the Senate Banking Committee in the late 1990s, Gramm ushered in — with McCain's fervent support — a massive wave of deregulation for insurance companies and brokerage houses and banks, the aftershocks of which are just now being felt in Wall Street's catastrophic collapse.

McCain, who has admitted that "the issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should," relies on Gramm to guide him.

Posted by: More good news for McCain | Oct 6, 2008 10:52:02 PM

At least three of McCain's GOP colleagues have gone on record to say that they consider him temperamentally unsuited to be commander in chief.

Smith, the former senator from New Hampshire, has said that McCain's "temper would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind, it should disqualify him."

Sen. Domenici of New Mexico has said he doesn't "want this guy anywhere near a trigger."

And Sen. Thad Cochran of Mississippi weighed in that "the thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded."

Posted by: More good news for McCain | Oct 6, 2008 10:49:28 PM

READ THE COVER ARTICLE IN ROLLING STONE!

Posted by: More great news for McCain | Oct 6, 2008 10:37:13 PM

Palin Charge:

"I'm afraid this someone who sees America as imperfect enough to work with a former domestic terrorist who had targeted his own country."

Saddam was our friend vs. Iran in 1980s, then our enemy.

Qadaffi was our enemy and now is our friend.

North Korea was our enemy and we are trying to be their friend now.

OOPS, forgot that we enabled Bin Laden and his crew to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.

This is only recent history . . . this is policy is policy of the US Govt. Ayers if he killed anybody, killed far fewer Americans than these guys.

This Ayers line is idiot logic.

Posted by: Jeff | Oct 6, 2008 10:35:51 PM

McCain is out of touch and almost out of time. Every political nerd has Obama winning landslide victories on their electoral college maps. Everyday those leads increase in Obama's favor.

Don't take away rights. Californians, VOTE NO on Prop 8.

Posted by: NO on 8 | Oct 6, 2008 10:11:58 PM

As McCain pointed out in the first prez debate, he is STILL against targeting Bin Laden if the Pakistanis don't allow us to do so.

One more reason to vote for Obama.

Posted by: freak | Oct 6, 2008 10:11:16 PM

Apparently McCain can't tell who is the real terrorist. He downplays Osama Bin Ladin who killed over 5,000 people and instead rather talk about Bill Ayers.

Posted by: Kathy | Oct 6, 2008 9:58:12 PM

**"Are you talking about Afghanistan?"

No, I'm talking about Iraq.**
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We didn't go into Iraq when alQaeda attacked us. It was 1.5 years later.


**In 1998, Clinton tried to kill Bin Laden and Republicans made a joke out of it. **
So he did that in 1998, but not in response to the Cole attack 2 years later. Do you wonder why, if it was so well known how dangerous Bin Laden was?
You will note that McCain, in the interview cited, was not making a joke out of it.

Posted by: MayBee | Oct 6, 2008 9:41:15 PM

"Are you talking about Afghanistan?"

No, I'm talking about Iraq.

The country Bush abandoned Afghanistan for.

In 1998, Clinton tried to kill Bin Laden and Republicans made a joke out of it.

Republicans, Party First, Country Last.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 6, 2008 9:22:45 PM

"Given that Bush attacked the wrong country the last time Al Queda attacked us, I would hope he will refrain and pass that responsibility onto the next President."
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Are you talking about Afghanistan?

So do you really believe Clinton was too much of a lame duck to go after the well-known and dangerous Osama bin Laden after the USS Cole attacks in October 2000?
What about his VP, Gore?
What about us, the American people? Were we crying out for Clinton to go after BinLaden in retaliation?

Or do you agree that in 1998 and even in 2000, most of us were not sure how bad Bid Laden really was?

Posted by: MayBee | Oct 6, 2008 8:47:31 PM

a trillion dollars that could have been used to provide health care coverage for every citizen, put tens of thousands back to work to rebuild New Orleans and our general infrastructure. Invested in renewable energy sources and used to build a monument to the twin towers that would have shown that we cannot be knocked down, was instead spent to conquer a country that could barely get running water outside of its capital city as well as being one of the only countries in the region that was not providing a safe haven to the group that attacked us. The terrorists are winning.

Posted by: Danny | Oct 6, 2008 8:34:28 PM

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