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McCain 1998: "Is This Guy Laden Really the Bad Guy That's Depicted?"

October 06, 2008 6:44 PM

The liberal blogosphere is atwitter with a 1998 Mother Jones Magazine interview -- first seemingly unearthed by Talking Points Memo -- with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that includes the following curious exchange about Osama bin Laden.

MJ: You not only have had combat experience in Vietnam, but you were also a prisoner of war. When you look at terrorism right now, with people like Osama bin Laden, do you have any reservations about watching strikes like that?

John McCain: You could say, Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted? Most of us have never heard of him before. And where there is a parallel with Vietnam is: What's plan B? What do we do next? We sent our troops into Vietnam to protect the bases. Lyndon Johnson said, Only to protect the bases. Next thing you know.... Well, we've declared to the terrorists that we're going to strike them wherever they live. That's fine. But what's next? That's where there might be some comparison.

The interview took place in September 1998, one month after the August 7, 1998, truck bombings of U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.

I would expect close Obama allies and perhaps even the Obama campaign to very soon start citing this interview, depicting McCain as not understanding and downplaying the terrorist threat back in 1998.

Fairly or unfairly.

The McCain campaign did not respond to a request for comment or an explanation as to what precisely McCain was trying to say in that interview 10 years ago.

-- jpt

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As Media Matters for America has noted, Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary"; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain's campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy's radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled "John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07" includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an "old friend." During the segment, McCain praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great," said he was "proud" of Liddy, and said that "it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program."

Posted by: flop sweat express | Oct 6, 2008 8:32:09 PM

financial collapse, political diviseness to the point that one political party accuses the other of being unpatriotic based soley on a difference of opinion. freedoms restricted, tolerance replaced by absolutism. NO rebuilding in NY to show that we cannot be knocked down so easily. The terrorists are winning.

Posted by: Danny | Oct 6, 2008 8:31:02 PM

the terrorists are winning.

Posted by: Danny | Oct 6, 2008 8:25:09 PM

"Given that Bush attacked the wrong country the last time Al Queda attacked us, I would hope he will refrain and pass that responsibility onto the next President."

Not sure why the attacked us part was cut out.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 6, 2008 8:24:56 PM

Does anyone find it the least bit odd that the self-proclaimed Christian Sarah Palin fantasizes about raping the planet as she screams "drill, baby drill!"

Posted by: Jane Sixpack | Oct 6, 2008 8:23:24 PM

game set match. Circa the late Tim Russert: this thing is over

Posted by: Tony | Oct 6, 2008 8:19:42 PM

Ryan C:Given that Bush attacked the wrong country the last time Al Queda,
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I'm sorry, I think you must have cut off some words here.

Posted by: MayBee | Oct 6, 2008 8:14:03 PM

KEEP UP THE NONSENSE, MCCAIN CAMPAIGN. HERE'S THE LATEST FROM REAL CLEAR POLITICS:

Colorado 48.0 44.0 Obama +4.0
Ohio 48.7 45.2 Obama +3.5
Florida 49.3 45.3 Obama +4.0
Nevada 49.3 47.5 Obama +1.8
Missouri 47.8 47.5 Obama +0.3
Virginia 49.9 45.1 Obama +4.8

Posted by: Blue in Michigan | Oct 6, 2008 8:12:50 PM

"I think if AlQaeda attacked us next week (on the anniversary of the bombing), Bush would do something about it. Don't you?"

Given that Bush attacked the wrong country the last time Al Queda, I would hope he will refrain and pass that responsibility onto the next President.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 6, 2008 8:10:41 PM

John McCain and Sarah Palin want to be elected like Republicans but they are trying to avoid discussing issues critical for the American families. And portraying themselves like reformers because they are embarrassed of the last 8 years of the Republicans –Bush Administration Americans want answers to they problems they want better healthcare they want better pay they don’t want just change because that sounds good on election time, they want change from the Bush policies.
The financial institutions are bankrupt. The dollar super weak
The military are stressed out dangerously. Factories and jobs move overseas.
Home owners become homeless. And John McCain worry about the judgment of OBAMA?
McCain is desperate to be a President! He doesn’t see the disaster of Iraq coming when he vote in favor of War .He support deregulations and then argue about the circus of Wall Street .A person who talk against the Government but he favors the government interference .What you can say about his judgment? Now we know that not only Obama can lead, but also he had a plan for the future of this great country!
Now McCain can snooze tight. Obama can answer the 03.00 am call any time!
Rebublicants can spin like wash machine all day long! The truth is
Senator McCain past actually impairs him from to be flexible and confront the future with open mind. The last days of the campaign confirmed that McCain -Plain are the most inadequate people to run this country!
The same people who gave George Bush a second term should feel responsible for the mess that is occurring today. They are the same ones who today have doubts about the ability of Obama to be a good choice for President. At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain and the Rebublicants .


Posted by: dontspin | Oct 6, 2008 7:58:16 PM

Ryan C:"Two years later, the Cole was attacked and the Clinton administration didn't do a darn thing about it."

They were in office for all of 2 months after that.

Not much a lameduck President could do except the FBI investigation (which was done)
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I think if AlQaeda attacked us next week (on the anniversary of the bombing), Bush would do something about it. Don't you?

If Clinton didn't do something about it, it's because he- possibly like McCain 2 years before- was unsure exactly how much of a bad guy bin Laden was.

Posted by: MayBee | Oct 6, 2008 7:55:19 PM

John McCain Profile:
John McCain hobby? Political stunts!
John McCain dream? Be the president no matter what!
John McCain political ideology? Opportunist!
John McCain cheerleader? Sarah Palin.!
John McCain favorite place? Florida, many elderly residents and you can manipulate the voting results!
John McCain favorite Cable news? FOX spin masters!
John McCain favorite movie? Pinocchio!
John McCain favorite song? Bomb.Bomb..Bomb Iran!
John McCain favorite word.? President Reagan ,my friends!.
John McCain friends? Wealthy people like him.!
John McCain ability ?Regular flip flop.!
John McCain number of houses? Seven!
John McCain Number of cars?Eleven!
John McCain definition of middle class?Under five million dollars assets!
John McCain family business value? Over hundred millions!

Posted by: dontspin | Oct 6, 2008 7:51:43 PM

McCain is done.

He has been totally wrong on Saddam and the imminent threat of Iraq's WMD's, and he was totally wrong on the deadly Al Qaeda/Ben Laden threat to America, one month AFTER the truck bombings of American embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam...

These two MAJOR errors in judgment disqualify the man to become the USA's next President and Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Trent | Oct 6, 2008 7:48:12 PM

"Two years later, the Cole was attacked and the Clinton administration didn't do a darn thing about it."

They were in office for all of 2 months after that.

Not much a lameduck President could do except the FBI investigation (which was done)

Of course Bush could have cared less about Bin Laden, ignoring even the Aug 6th memo warning of an imminent attack using airliners.

3000 Americans died because Bush was too busy vacationing in Crawford after 7 months on the job.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 6, 2008 7:47:25 PM

McCain is saying- do we know enough about this guy to threaten to strike against them wherever they live?
The answer was obviously no, because we didn't do that. Two years later, the Cole was attacked and the Clinton administration didn't do a darn thing about it.
Obama has many of the same advisors now that Clinton had then.
In 1998, we were all asking "Who is Bin Laden".
What was Obama saying?

Posted by: MayBee | Oct 6, 2008 7:44:14 PM

At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain/Palin and the Republicans

Posted by: republicans nomore | Oct 6, 2008 7:43:55 PM

"Obama said our soldiers are air raiding villages in afghanistan and killing civilians"

CNN Fact Check Verdict:
False. The McCain ad inaccurately presents this as Obama's current position, citing a an out-of-context comment from more than a year ago.

Posted by: Kathy | Oct 6, 2008 7:43:36 PM

Jeff

Obama was blaming our tactics, not our soldiers. He was saying the obvious: that if we had more troops on the ground, we wouldn't have to do so much from the air, and fewer civilians would be killed. Any military expert would agree with that.

Posted by: jock59801 | Oct 6, 2008 7:42:07 PM

So McCain '98, was different than McCain '00, and now we have McCain the '08 version. Jeez, now there is CHANGE you can't believe at all!!!

Posted by: hmn | Oct 6, 2008 7:35:28 PM

"Obama said our soldiers are air raiding villages in afghanistan and killing civilians"

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon admitted yesterday that Afghan civilians at a wedding feast were killed and wounded in an accidental air strike last week.

Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke also said the military had a video of the air strike by an AC-130 Spectre gunship, but it was being withheld by the Air Force on grounds of military secrecy.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 6, 2008 7:29:39 PM

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