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McCain Adviser Says Northern Virginia Not "Real" Virginia

October 18, 2008 3:17 PM

It might be a good idea for the folks from the McCain campaign to take a day off, take a breath, and then return to work. Republicans unaffiliated with the campaign tell me the "bunker" mentality there is really starting to hurt them.

To wit: McCain senior adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer on MSNBC today.

"As a proud resident of Oakton, Virginia, I can tell you that the Democrats have just come in from the District of Columbia and moved into northern Virginia," Pfotenhauer said, speaking of Democratic gains in that part of the state. "And that's really what you see there.

"But the rest of the state, 'real Virginia,' if you will, I think will be very responsive to Senator McCain’s message," she continued.

Pfotenhauer went on to make a totally valid point about Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., having to play defense in Pennsylvania, as areas in battleground states where Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., could do well.

"And remember that, you know, you’ve got places in other states like northern Wisconsin, the iron range of Minnesota, south-central and southeastern Pennsylvania, the St. Louis suburbs and the rural areas of Missouri that are very responsive to our message," she said. "And again we're taking it to them in Pennsylvania and New Hampshire. He’s having to fight to defend there, as you can tell because he's deployed people like the Clintons out in Pennsylvania. And every speech Joe Biden gives, he says, 'I’m from Scranton.' You don't know what else he's going to say, but he sure gets that line in."

But the "real Virginia" line -- made in the wake of the nominee's brother, Joe McCain, referring to Arlington and Alexandria as "Communist country" -- is what's most likely to make news, and help Team Obama drive up Democratic turnout in the battleground state.

"Hey Nancy," said the MSNBC anchor, "I’m going to give you a chance to climb back off that ledge. Did you say 'real Virginia'?"

"I did say outside of north – well, I mean real Virginia, because northern Virginia is where I’ve always been, but real Virginia I take to be the – this part of the state that is more southern in nature, if you will," she said. "Northern Virginia is really metro D.C., as you're aware, Kevin."

An in-kind contribution to the Obama campaign's Get-Out-the-Vote apparatus from McCain's adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer. Nancy Pfotenhauer, ladies and gentleman.

-- jpt

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I can't wait for the election to be over (and with Obama hopefully the winner) so the McCain/Red "people" such as Palin, Joe the Plumber,Pfotenhauer, Castellanos, Bay Buchanan, Kevin Madden, et. al. can go back to their day jobs (in other words OFF MY TV SCREEN....)

Posted by: Rob | Nov 2, 2008 3:00:58 PM

Pfotenhauer is probably too young to remember that the "democrats" from D.C. that's she's talking about "moved in" to northern VA (and elsewhere) about 4 decades ago. The exodus from Washington, DC began in the early 1960s, and ended long before today. If anything, some folks are moving back.

The woman says she lives in Oakton, which is about as red an area as you'll find in NOVA.

Posted by: loosek | Oct 25, 2008 5:52:19 AM

The Iron Range? WHAT? The Iron Range is sort of Democratic in much the same way that the Vatican is sort of Roman Catholic.

Posted by: Nathan | Oct 24, 2008 4:09:14 PM

Born and raised in Herndon here (5 minutes from Oakton). The state has long been red, even in NoVA until recently. If you look at the population EXPLOSION in NoVA over the past 2 decades, you'll see that a great percentage of the current NoVA population are indeed transplants. Virginia may be changing, but she's right that historically, VA is GOP all the way, and that a major factor in the political shift are non-native Virginia's. Regardless, presidential elections these days are pretty lame.. this whole campaign-by-sound-bite deal makes it impossible to get a good picture of the actual policies in question. Presidential Election = beauty pageant/popularity contest.

Posted by: Patrick | Oct 24, 2008 3:33:55 PM

Northern Wisconsin and the Iron Range are responsive to the McCain message? Too bad for her and McC that you can't even come close to winning Minnesota or Wisconsin by winning those areas. N. Wisconsin has half a million people. The total state population is 5.5 million. The Iron Range has a pop. of 300K out of a total state pop. of 5.1 million. Looks like Palin wasn't the only McC's only staffing mistake.

Posted by: Barutan Seijin | Oct 23, 2008 10:36:17 AM

What can you say...the McCain campaign really knows how to pick a winner....over and over again.

They all seem to be wearing their hair up, have ear to ear smiles while saying the most hateful, stupid things, and seem to live on another planet...one that does include only those who look like themselves.

Posted by: Yvette | Oct 22, 2008 6:25:46 PM

Every wonder why Ms. Pfotenhauer always wears a turtleneck? Her neck is as long as a goose, almost as long as her nose gets when she starts lying.

Posted by: baretruth | Oct 22, 2008 5:18:31 PM

To stoop so low in order to get votes.

Next the McCain people will issue terrorist threats just as Bush's people did....twice... before the 2004 election. It all came to naught just like the Saddam threat.

Remember the Baltimore native, H.L. Mencken, who said: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

Posted by: Lee King | Oct 21, 2008 7:38:21 PM

First off, I live in NoVA and went to school in southern VA. Ive seen both sides of this "debate" if youll call it that and all you Obama supporters turning this into a "I must live in fake Virginia" drive me insane. NoVA people including the media tend to forget that there are a lot more people in Virginia who tend to be Republican. Charlottesville, Richmond and DC are major Democratic hubs. No polls are reaching the VAST areas who have Republican congressman and Republican voters. Real Virginia means all of Virginia including the Repubs people tend to forget. Just because NoVA has more Democratic support, doesnt mean Virginia is turning Democratic.

Posted by: Paul | Oct 21, 2008 3:40:13 PM

I was born in the "real" Virginia. Two of my ancestors were governors of Virginia. I am so happy to be living in "Northern Virginia," whose citizens embody the ideals of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and other distinguished Virginians as much - or more - than do those in other areas of the Commonwealth.
In her snide and artificial divisions, Nancy Pfotenhauer only betrays the sub-human American that she is. Maybe Wasilla would be a better place for her to live than Oakton.

Posted by: Jim | Oct 21, 2008 1:41:04 AM

I don't live in the REAL Virginia? Then why have I been paying Real Virginian taxes all this time? You know, those Northern VA taxes that end up funding the rest of the Commonwealth's infrastructure. So much for being against the redistribution of wealth in VA.

Posted by: Margo Eve | Oct 21, 2008 1:12:26 AM

Ridiculous. I'm from NoVa, and I'm a real Virginian.. who is REALLY voting for Barack Obama because of absurd statements like that. When did being democratic become 'anti-america' or 'fake america' total b.s.! painting american citizens who want change and exercise their right to vote as unpatriotic is pathetic. Kind of like the McCain campaign and Nancy Pfotenhauer.

Posted by: JMTeenie | Oct 20, 2008 11:09:07 PM

Sorry mara. Previous quote by Christie.

Posted by: NelsonBig | Oct 20, 2008 3:43:50 PM

Where does he get these Advisers from?

It appears that most of his advisors talk before thinking.

So much for judgement!

"Birds of the same Feathers"

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | Oct 20, 2008 5:38:03 AM

Wow, that McCain spokesperson is an idiot. just like McCain. I'm putting my coutry first and voting for Obama.

Posted by: Albert Ronzo | Oct 20, 2008 3:18:16 AM

This is a FAT hanging curveball for Obama to wack out of park. He's got to do a rally in NoVa and introduce some veterans, PLUMBERS, firefighters, and teachers who live and work in NoVa and support him.

Posted by: Jeff W | Oct 20, 2008 1:18:14 AM

Republican Notion of "Freedom of Religion"

You are free to be a Baptist, Methodist, or Presbiterian

Posted by: John McCain; Fighting for "Freedom" | Oct 19, 2008 8:31:06 PM

Being in Charlottesville, I apparently live in "real VA"? (Another stupid comment following the one by Palin. Are they intentionally trying to alienate voters?)

The enthuisiam for Obama here is like no other election I've witnessed. The old school Pubs are fading away and there is no new support for them. Democrat's numbers are WAY up!

We've voted for Webb(Dem), former Gov Warner will most likely take the other Senate seat(Dem), and Obama will take the state in the Presidential race!

VA IS TURNING BLUE!

As a side note: Dave Matthews is doing a free show in Richmond to support Obama. HUGE SHOW. Dave is from Charlottesville.

Posted by: Dave in VA | Oct 19, 2008 8:19:41 PM

The Pentagon is in "Northern Virginia" where 184 Americans died on 9/1/2001.

Posted by: StillLearningToo | Oct 19, 2008 7:51:23 PM

More insults from the Rep's or McCain's campaign spokeperson. Nice, lose another state for McCain.

Posted by: Ethel | Oct 19, 2008 7:37:04 PM

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