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McCain Adviser Says Northern Virginia Not "Real" Virginia

October 18, 2008 3:17 PM

It might be a good idea for the folks from the McCain campaign to take a day off, take a breath, and then return to work. Republicans unaffiliated with the campaign tell me the "bunker" mentality there is really starting to hurt them.

To wit: McCain senior adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer on MSNBC today.

"As a proud resident of Oakton, Virginia, I can tell you that the Democrats have just come in from the District of Columbia and moved into northern Virginia," Pfotenhauer said, speaking of Democratic gains in that part of the state. "And that's really what you see there.

"But the rest of the state, 'real Virginia,' if you will, I think will be very responsive to Senator McCain’s message," she continued.

Pfotenhauer went on to make a totally valid point about Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., having to play defense in Pennsylvania, as areas in battleground states where Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., could do well.

"And remember that, you know, you’ve got places in other states like northern Wisconsin, the iron range of Minnesota, south-central and southeastern Pennsylvania, the St. Louis suburbs and the rural areas of Missouri that are very responsive to our message," she said. "And again we're taking it to them in Pennsylvania and New Hampshire. He’s having to fight to defend there, as you can tell because he's deployed people like the Clintons out in Pennsylvania. And every speech Joe Biden gives, he says, 'I’m from Scranton.' You don't know what else he's going to say, but he sure gets that line in."

But the "real Virginia" line -- made in the wake of the nominee's brother, Joe McCain, referring to Arlington and Alexandria as "Communist country" -- is what's most likely to make news, and help Team Obama drive up Democratic turnout in the battleground state.

"Hey Nancy," said the MSNBC anchor, "I’m going to give you a chance to climb back off that ledge. Did you say 'real Virginia'?"

"I did say outside of north – well, I mean real Virginia, because northern Virginia is where I’ve always been, but real Virginia I take to be the – this part of the state that is more southern in nature, if you will," she said. "Northern Virginia is really metro D.C., as you're aware, Kevin."

An in-kind contribution to the Obama campaign's Get-Out-the-Vote apparatus from McCain's adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer. Nancy Pfotenhauer, ladies and gentleman.

-- jpt

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So I guess that makes the Maryland area around DC "fake" Maryland, as well? BS to that and the "fake" Virginia assumption.

As a Tidewater resident, I say that our Northern neighbors embody the "real" Virginia as much as everywhere else. We're all bound by the same state laws and pay taxes to the same state government. Since when did anyone have to pass a culture test to be "real" Virginians?

Now, let's be clear about the "nature" of Virginia: the polls have Obama leading in the state. Not just NoVA, but the STATE. Heck, we've had 2 consecutive Democratic governors and we've got a 2nd seat in the Senate for Mark Warner to take pretty soon.

It's not just our northern neighbors' 32% of the state population that turned the state blue. The areas that have gone blue aren't exactly metro DC territory, either. Now then, Nancy, are those other blue regions "fake" Virginias that don't resonate with your message? And even if they aren't, are you going to be any closer to turning them red than you were before?

Posted by: Thatguy | Oct 19, 2008 7:24:09 PM

When given a third chance to clarify her remarks denigrating Northern Virginia after the election, Nancy Pfotenhauer pointed to the map of still"red" Georgia and said "As God is my witness, I'll never leave Tara again."

Posted by: ricky | Oct 19, 2008 5:04:08 PM

Nancy Pfotenhauer, I cannot wait for this election to be over so I do not have to hear another unremarkably stupid remark from your incredibly stupid mouth..How do you continually allow yourself to go on Hardball and CNN and make the case the case for McCain and Palin. They must pay you a heck of lot of money. Don't you feel like a fool. You sure sound and look like one. I am to the point that I hit the mute button when I see you. Don't feel bad though, I do the same thing to John and Sarah. Vote Obama!

Posted by: JP | Oct 19, 2008 4:30:21 PM

I am so shocked at what she says!!! She is saying certain Virginians are not real Virginians??? All proud Virginians are real proud Virginians!! How can she do this??

Posted by: Sharonklim | Oct 19, 2008 2:50:55 PM

I don't know why McCain/Palin hate us - must be because we might not vote for them.

Posted by: just another voter | Oct 19, 2008 1:32:33 PM

Life in Perspective - I'm divorced with three children, I'm trying to finishing up my college degree, I work part-time, my refrigerators is bare, and I have quarter of a tank that has to last me until next Friday. I really wish McCain and Palin would stay focused on issues that really matter!

Posted by: omayanaj | Oct 19, 2008 1:21:35 PM

Christie said: "As a lifetime resident of the Shenandoah Valley, this statement was accurate. People here think of NoVa as a separate entity... If you haven't lived here, you haven't got a clue and your comments are pointless. Go McCain, Gilmore, and Goodlatte."

By your own logic, therefore, you yourself haven't got a clue regarding NoVa, as well as your comments being pointless.

Posted by: Henry Blankett | Oct 19, 2008 1:12:48 PM

I wonder? is N VA part of the real USA?

Posted by: 9michael99 | Oct 19, 2008 1:07:11 PM

Wow. I own land in northern WI, lived in northern MN, and now live in northern VA. I'm so confused. Am I a real Virginian? Am I even a real American? Would a President McCain declare me an enemy combatant and have Caribou Barbi hunt me down?

Posted by: NoWI - NoMN - NoVA | Oct 19, 2008 12:07:27 PM

What I really dislike about the McCain campaign other than Stupid Sarah is all the negativism. We need to be brought together as a nation and not torn apart.

Posted by: Bob C | Oct 19, 2008 11:50:16 AM

Everywhere and every time they have a chance for a positive response, they choose to insult and divide. The republicans are not suited to lead our country into the future when they imagine class/culture wars within the states based on what part of the state a person lives in. It's appalling what they call unifying. They know nothing but fear mongering and lies. And they will leave no lie unturned in their quest for the white house.
The only clear choice for President is Barak Obama. The only right choice is Barak Obama. McCain can take four more years and put in a dark and scary place, which is what he would lead us to believe Obama would do if he were President. There's no excuse for voting for McCain.

Posted by: Julez39 | Oct 19, 2008 11:42:12 AM

I love the way the pro-Obama media twists everything Obama's opponents say while suppressing Obama's actual comments about taking people's hard earned money via higher taxes and "spreading the wealth around" to those who don't pay taxes; and Obama's comments about people "clinging to their guns and religion", etc., etc., etc. Cut the crap you pro-Obama media.

Posted by: Doreen | Oct 19, 2008 11:24:50 AM

More and more, I see where Republicans have a thought process of bringing division amongst the citizens of the United States, rather than bringing them together.

McCain also divides. He even hates the idea of so called "spreading the wealth," he doesn't want to see other people who don't have, progress, but he'd rather keep them down and out, such as to keep the wealthy happy.

How did McCain gather up his wealth? Work hard? Maybe he worked hard at making connections with people who HAD money. One of the ways of which he did that, was to cheat on his wife, and get with a millionaire HOME WRECKER. How valiant.

Posted by: vVince | Oct 19, 2008 9:20:32 AM

GUESS WHAT:

Fake Virginians have the EXACT same power as "REAL VIRGINIANS." Think about that on voting day, when all of those fake virginians show up, just because you have excluded them from your importance.

Posted by: Vince | Oct 19, 2008 9:15:03 AM

The reason why Northern Virginia is the richest fastest growing part of the state, by the way, is that it's all contractors sucking at the teat of big Government. (I should know -- I am one!)

Posted by: Chris | Oct 19, 2008 8:58:22 AM

I was born in Arlington about 50 years ago and lived mostly in Fairfax County since then. McCain is absolutely right that, politically and culturally speaking, Northern Virinia is not "real Virginia". The larger part of the state is southern and has the primary identity of Virginia. Northern Virginia where I lived is more of an extension of Washington DC -- everyone who lives here either works in Washington, or works for a federal agency in Washington as a contractor. The area is extremely high in Democrats and in "independant" liberals who tend to vote that way. Different from the entire rest of the state. That other comment about "communist country" is a little overblown and offensive, because we're not as liberal as Cambridge, Massachusetts, but it's fairly accurate.

Speaking as one of those un-real Virginians, who has lived in Northern Virginia all his life, I'm voting for McCain.

Posted by: Chris | Oct 19, 2008 8:50:23 AM

One Virginia, One America. The only thing that needs to get 'real' is the McCain-Palin campaign - it's all over the place.

Posted by: chester burns | Oct 19, 2008 7:07:31 AM

Wow Pfotenhauer, I suppose all those 100,000 people who rallied for Obama in Missouri are all fake Americans!

This is shameless. Any McCain/Palin supporters living in that area should be furious that just because the whole state is leaning Democratic, it is not considered to be "real".

Will the McCain campaign please stop insinuating that people who don't support them are somehow less "American" or patriotic? This is not the first time they have said something like that. Patriots don't stand by a certain leader, but stand by their COUNTRY. Who gave you a monopoly on patriotism, Johnny? There are Democrats who also fought in the Vietname War, the Gulf War, and are fighting in Iraq alongside Republicans and Independents.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."-Samuel Johnson

Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 19, 2008 5:55:44 AM

Traditionally the Northern Virginia area included Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William counties along with the independent cities found within those boundaries. According to numbers in the 2006 United States Census, this made up almost 27% of the states total population. If you include the counties south of the beltway which the census did when it calculated Northern Virginia, that number jumps to 32%. It stands to reason that you cannot simply dismiss virtually a third of a state, as not being part of the states "real" population. Quite frankly as someone who's military father moved his family to Northern Virginia, and where I went to fifth grade on through high school and my undergraduate degree and where I have lived for 24 years, I am offended. Does that mean I am not really a Virginian? The population of many states are changing and growing, you can't disregard those area when looking at the state as a whole.

Posted by: Patrick | Oct 19, 2008 3:29:40 AM

This is crazy. What you all don`t seems to understand is..... This election is not about Obama!!!

We have trusted the republicans for the last 8 years (yes that means Bush and Mini-bush) and look where that`s got us. We the people have simply been raped!!! Not once, but twice!!! The joke is really on us.

They convinced us all the politics of taking from the poor and giving to wealthy is fair and good for the economy. (If your boss gets tax cuts than, you get wage rises and we can create more jobs....remember that promise) If the last eight years have proven anything, it just doesn`t work. Yeah sure you might like the bush economic policies that favour the wealthy only, if you are wealthy....but the rest of us want to balance the books again. Remember the Clinton years.... America was doing great...compare that to today.... Ask yourself has your bills increased? How`s your 401 k plan doing? When was the last time you had a wage rise? How’s your home doing? Can you send your kids/you afford college today? Know anybody that`s been laid off recently?? (Why? cause their job got shipped abroad)....

I don`t want to be lied to for another four years.

All those Republican promises 2000/2004.... heard them all before.

- Cut spending????? = what about Iraq...10 billion a month + more bridge to nowhere programs than in the Clinton years... (Fact)

- What happened to less taxes for the wealthy = more jobs.....?????? We have lost more jobs in the last 8 years since the great depression...all the while the RICH get richer.....according to CNN “Ferrari in the states has got a one year waiting list”....wonder who that`s for? Let’s get real here.....we are getting raped in daylight.....wake up!!!!!

- Health care????? Don`t get me started on that one....

- Foreign policy????? We have lost respect globally and what happened to taking care of business....bin laden is still out there.

- National debt???? we were in the green before the republicans took office, now look where are we....it`s worst than ever.

Not to mention all the lies P bush has feed us about weapons of mass d????? The real weapon was and is the republican economic policies, which Mc Bush supported and still supports.......

Enough is enough!!!!!
I get sick thinking about what has happened to this great country in the last 8 years.....and all you republicans want to talk about is Obama`s birth certificate. Do you honestly think he would be in the senate if he wasn`t vetted.

What about Mc Cain’s ties to domestic terrorist Gordon Liddy or the economic terrorist Keating ( he cost us the taxpayer ....3 billion dollars...all the while sipping champagne and having caviar in one of Mc Cain 7 houses?

Why Obama? Because the people want to send a message.....and it reads......

ENOUGH!!!!!!Time for a change.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Mulder without scully | Oct 19, 2008 2:47:52 AM

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