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McCaskill Has ‘Joe Biden Moment’ by Saying Biden ‘Sometimes Says Things That Are Kind of Stupid’

October 01, 2008 3:06 PM

Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., today told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that the American people don't know much about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin “and she is now being thrust on a stage without a script and everyone is curious about how much she knows."

More pointedly, McCaskill said of Palin's opponent, Sen. Joe Biden, Del., that he “has a tendency to talk forever and sometimes say things that are kind of stupid.”

“He a regular guy and … he doesn’t parse his words and he’s not hyper-careful,” she said. “He’s very authentic."

She then seemed to regret what she'd said.

“I was probably having a Joe Biden moment myself,” McCaskill said of her candid moment minutes before.

- jpt

October 1, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (171)

User Comments

RL in Illinois:
I get the same e-mails. I made an earlier contribution and do not feel compelled to make another. The e-mails give out information that is good to know. They don't just solicit contributions---I appreciate the information.

Posted by: George | Oct 2, 2008 2:51:38 PM

The job of Speaker of the House is to pass legislation. When she can not convince 13 of her states delegation to vote for a bill and at the same time 5 committee chairmen voted against the bill. Her picks.

Very bluntly, she did not want the bill to pass. She wanted to keep that 700 billion monkey on McCains back.

Party first, country last.

Posted by: Al Bee | Oct 2, 2008 9:32:36 AM

Forgot to mention that EVERY day I get an email from Obama's campaign soliciting donations. Tuesday it was hurry, the deadline's approaching. The email wanted $5.00. Monday it was from Jon Carson. Today it was from the "P" guy-I want to say Poof but only cause I wish he'd disappear. You cannot get off the freaking mailing list-I've tried. If all the people need his help, why is he asking them for money-I mean every day!!! Then at the beginning of the month you read about the record broken for raising money. Since the Wall Street event last week I can think of at least 5 new commercials playing on the St. Louis television stations. He has 3 new radio ads that I've heard. He even had his face ad on Ebay. He's asking for money when people are losing their homes?

Posted by: RL in Illinois | Oct 2, 2008 2:44:28 AM

Stand up Chuck! Oh, sorry Chuck is an invalid. Great going Biden. Drop out of the race - we want Hillary!

Posted by: Harold | Oct 1, 2008 11:28:12 PM

lately

You cant ask me that...

Your sexist!

Posted by: James | Oct 1, 2008 9:19:18 PM

Thus Spake James - "When you are stupid every question is a gotcha question!"

What made you think of that James?

Posted by: lately | Oct 1, 2008 9:10:26 PM

Today

OBAMA: Oh, absolutely not. Uh, because if you think about it, there was a deal struck between, uhh, Nancy Pelosi and, uh, the Republican leader, Bohner. Uh, the... Uh, the Democrats were supposed to get 120 votes. They got 140. So there was no sense on the Democratic side that we weren't following through on our commitments. Uh, and apparently there were some problems on that side. I don't think me calling House Republican members would have been that helpful. I tend not to be that persuasive -- heh -- on that side of the aisle.


Well so much for the great unifier.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 9:05:21 PM

The Two Jakes

Someone here ealier wrote:

"Just because you don't agree with his views doesn't mean that you have to demean him."

Who was that ?
hypocrite!!!

Posted by: James | Oct 1, 2008 9:05:19 PM

When you are stupid every question is a gotcha question!

Posted by: James | Oct 1, 2008 8:59:50 PM

Obama continues to be teflon coated.
____________________________________

Hmmmm, I can see the title of Obama's memoirs now

THE DEVIL WORE TEFLON

I like it.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 8:53:28 PM

Ryan C. "but hey these things are viewed thru a partisan lense."
_______________________________________

1. lens my friend not lense

2. Get Obama some bifocals since he will have to be bipartisan to deal with the mess he will inherit should he win. Hobson's Choice indeed. If one had one's druthers I would have took a second look.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 8:51:40 PM

Obama talks about bringing fairness to our tax structure. Is America ready for the liberation theology politics that Obama will bring us?

Posted by: lately | Oct 1, 2008 8:51:20 PM

Even democrats are seeing that the media has done more than cross the line. The media is over there in Russia.

Now the polls (poles) are showing that this one side bashing of Palin is hurting Obama.

We see a little pile on on Biden, but Obama continues to be teflon coated. Obama has no foreign policiy experience and no one mentions that.

Posted by: lately | Oct 1, 2008 8:48:33 PM

Prediction from Kool Aid Mountain: RL will be accused of not being from Illinois.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 8:42:09 PM

Dateline Thurs nite 5 min into the VP debate

Gwen Ifill: What color is the dress you have on Gov Palin?

Gov Palin: {looks down} Red!

McCain campaign immediately issues a press release accusing Gwen Ifill of gotcha journalism and bias.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 8:37:24 PM

FDR was also the 1st President to speak on TV in '38 or '39.
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Did Wikipedia or wherever happen to mention how many people outside the corporate/government elite were able to VIEW him on teevee? :^)

It IS the same signal, but receivers weren't available to the working classes until the 50's (just in time for the Army/McCarthy hearings).

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 8:34:47 PM

Given Biden's long and "articulate" career, Governor Palin has a very target rich enviroment in which to work.

The debate should be very entertaining.

Posted by: Navy Vet | Oct 1, 2008 8:31:50 PM

at a town hall meeting in New Mexico, McCain said:

"And I regret some of the recent behavior Russia that has exhibited, and I'll be glad to talk about that later on including reduction in oil supplies to Czechoslovakia after they agreed with us on a missile defense system, et cetera."

Czechslovakia ceased to exist in 1993.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 8:31:31 PM

"Hahaha. No, that was Biden -- the guy who thinks FDR was president in the crash of '29, and that his fireside chats were on teevee -- which hadn't been developed as a mass-communications medium when FDR was in office."

FDR began his fireside chats when he was Gov of NY.

FDR was also the 1st President to speak on TV in '38 or '39.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 8:25:57 PM

"C'mon, it's not like she told a man in a wheelchair to walk or sumpin'!"
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Hahaha. No, that was Biden -- the guy who thinks FDR was president in the crash of '29, and that his fireside chats were on teevee -- which hadn't been developed as a mass-communications medium when FDR was in office.

And they say Palin's no match for Uncle Joe? Hahaha: what SHE doesn't know, she can learn -- whereas Obama/Biden are such know-it-alls they haven't learned anything since their long-ago college days, when they learned where to go to get lifetime health care and corporate protection, and to avoid heavy lifting.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 8:23:11 PM

Reading thru these posts, I came upon some talk about having Mike Savage moderate instead of Gwenn Ifill.

On our way home from bringing our son to college the day McCain announced Palin as his running mate, we tuned in to see what conservative talk radio had to say.

We found Mike Savage and he said that McCain had just lost the election. He didn't have a single positive thing to say about her as a viable running mate on the Republican ticket.

So, I'd kinda like to see Mike Savage instead of Gwen. I think he'd be a lot tougher on her than Ifill will be.

Posted by: Blue in Michigan | Oct 1, 2008 8:19:10 PM

C'mon, it's not like she told a man in a wheelchair to walk or sumpin'!

Posted by: Scott Malensek | Oct 1, 2008 8:16:33 PM

Oops. This accidentally got posted to the "Crap Sandwich" thread ...

"So in short, yes Belle. I believe you. You were a Hillary supporter who is not supporting Obama. There are many, many like you ..."
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I did have a lot of sympathy for Clinton once the Obama campaign started race-baiting and woman-bashing.

I was (am) a John Edwards supporter. With this "crisis" -- if it even IS actually a crisis, and not a huge market manipulation unleashed to favor Obama and make a bunch of money for his corporate masters -- I'm guessing much of the "leadership" (those not aligned with that saboteur Kerry, at any rate) are now silently wishing Edwards, instead of mob-friendly Obama, were the Democratic nominee.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 8:14:49 PM

James, ease up on what? She said last night she supported Clinton. Everytime I have seen her posts she is praising the Clintons--that is before they get deleted that is what she has said. If there are two Belles I stand corrected. The tenor of my post remains the same. You don't have to deride her. Belle Posted:

I'm a Jesse Jackson FDR Democrat who'll vote for McCain before the present "Democratic" nominee. Just because Obama bought the Democratic nomination doesn't make him a Democrat."

So then she is a DEM who is not voting for Obama. Like I said the tenor of my message remains the same.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 8:03:00 PM

Ryan C

Its funny in that it makes me read your post twice to check its you! LOL

Posted by: James | Oct 1, 2008 7:58:53 PM

Take a good hard look at the people Obama surrounds himself with. Radicals, America haters and incompetent yes men/women, McCaskill falling into the later catagory.

Posted by: OxyCon | Oct 1, 2008 7:58:46 PM

Ryan show Belle some respect. Just because you don't agree with her views doesn't mean that you have to demean her.

Belle I know that you are a dem. I am too but I chose not to vote for the nominee, Obama I know Dems who voted BUSH over Gore in 2000. I don't understand why Obama supporters fail to see that people who voted DEM for life are not voting for Obama. There are Republicans voting for Obama. Obviously if he will win by a landslide like they are predicting conservatives are voting for him too. That has been happening since the beginning of time. party switchers, people who don't vote straight tickets. For some reason the BOTS see things in black and white literally and figuratively.

They don't agree with your position so therefore you don't exist.

I have a Republican friend who never voted DEM until now and vice versa. I have a friend who is voting for Nader.

So in short, yes Belle. I believe you. You were a Hillary supporter who is not supporting Obama. There are many, many like you and PUMA proves that.

Jake Tapper wonders why there is no healthy debate on this site. When you couple censorship, with name calling, and denial of a persons position what did he expect? A guy came on here and said he was from Illinois and for Mccain. The Obama supporter posted you are not from Illinois. Not that it mattered a lot but the Obama supporter felt some need to attack the guys statehood.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 7:51:38 PM

Please try to balance out the media you consume read a couple of diiferent news papers watch a couple of different cable news channels balance things out and then make your own judgements...

Not just repeating the same FNC/RNC talking points!

Posted by: James | Oct 1, 2008 7:50:35 PM

So how does an Jesse Jackson FDR Democrat come to embrace the standard bearer of the Reagan Revolution in the name of defending poor folks while singing the praises of FoxNews?

There seems to be an ideological schizophrenia going on there.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 7:50:33 PM

"I read a ryan c anti Obama post earlier today ???"

The post about Obama returning $1.5M in donations?

That was a trap for the rwer to say AHA!

Then I hit him with the $7.5M that McCain had to return!

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 7:48:34 PM

"Cultural Amnesia + Concerned in OH + Belle Star all to me seem to be the same person!"
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Not too strong on literary analysis, anyway. :^|

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 7:48:10 PM

Ssssssshhhhhhh OK lol

Posted by: James | Oct 1, 2008 7:46:19 PM

"A Jesse Jackson FDR Democrats who rails against big government and blames the mortgage crisis on minorities."
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Belle Starr does NEITHER of those things. In fact, the mortgage "crisis" is the result of the corporate "Democrats" luring poor people into mortgages they couldn't pay as a way to keep the housing numbers up and avoid doing something about green public housing (there ARE a million homeless, and about to be many more).

The poor and near-poor -- many of them black -- who went for this swindle are now ruined: they will never have another moment's peace about their housing, taxes, or "credit". It will not be easy for them to rent OTHER housing (where, most likely, they won't be able so much as to have a dog). They will suffer one by one, and family by family, unknown to ANY politician, and "helped" by no one.

Meanwhile, the great Obama, enabler of ACORN, taps the ghastly Biden, of the Delaware credit-card dynasty, for VP.

You people make me tired.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 7:45:01 PM


I read a ryan c anti Obama post earlier today ????

Posted by: James | Oct 1, 2008 7:44:49 PM

"so is ryan c and the ryan c imposter!"

My imposter hasn't been here in a few days.

I hope that he or she is ok!

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 7:42:08 PM

"I'm no Republican. I'm a Jesse Jackson FDR Democrat who'll vote for McCain before the present "Democratic" nominee. Just because Obama bought the Democratic nomination doesn't make him a Democrat."

A Jesse Jackson FDR Democrats who rails against big government and blames the mortgage crisis on minorities.

Sure I believe you.

"You can be whoever you want to be," says an inviting Phil Tuchman(McCain campaign worker instructing ghost writers for the campaign). "You can be a beggar or a millionaire. A mom or a husband. Whatever. You decide!"

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 7:34:50 PM

"She's here every day."
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Actually not. But Ryan C., who apparently actually IS here every day, must know that ...

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 7:31:03 PM

"Then again I wasn't sure what your smearing post about Obama's donations had to do with McCaskil-Biden either.

Hypocrisy thy name is Republican."
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That's not "smearing", but "thinking". And that post -- questioning what the point was of the cell phone games at Obama's Invesco event -- was a response to a post in this thread.

I'm no Republican. I'm a Jesse Jackson FDR Democrat who'll vote for McCain before the present "Democratic" nominee. Just because Obama bought the Democratic nomination doesn't make him a Democrat.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 7:28:04 PM

"Belle do you even take it seriously anymore?"

Apparently she does.

She's here every day.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 7:20:54 PM

Uh, what does Couric's Palin interview have to do with the McCaskill/Biden topic?

Abominoid "message discipline" -- you gotta love it.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 7:13:50 PM

Rick Davis's ties with the pro-Putin oligarch Oleg Deripaska and with the side in Ukraine associated with Putin and the Russian security services, and opposed to U.S. interests.

Davis's firm had essentially run that party's campaign; but the story -- though interesting -- hangs up on teh fact that McCain has been staunchly anti-Putin. There was just no evidence that Davis's work for the other side in Eastern Europe -- though a bit astonishing in its own right -- was having any impact on McCain's stand.

The Nation has a story today, however, suggesting those interests may haved intersected in the mini-state of Montenegro. Mark Ames, a longtime skeptic of U.S. Russia policy, and Ari Berman, suggest that McCain's support of that country's independence played into the hands of Putin and Russian oligarchs who were shopping for a Mediterranean outpost, and who basically captured the small independent state.

Rick Davis is starting to make the sleazy Mark Penn look good.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 7:09:04 PM

"The McCain campaign claims they did not know about it until today and John McCain says its fine."
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What else CAN he say? Does he want to be called a "racist"? Does he want to be called "anti-woman"?

Couldn't the debate find ONE woman journalist -- only this one debate has a female moderator -- capable of asking debate questions who isn't either a "black" Obama merchandiser OR married to Alan Greenspan?

(Whassa matter with, say, Candy Crowley?)

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 7:04:29 PM

Truth will set you free. Not merely a slip of the tongue, but Joe Biden is a total idiot based upon his ongoing gaffes! Stand up Chuck! Come on Chuck, don't be shy - stand up!

That is being a total idiot!

Posted by: Harold | Oct 1, 2008 6:54:12 PM


I heard the mccain camp is :

In hopes of organizing a robust demonstration for the vice presidential debate this Thursday in St. Louis, the pro-Iraq War (and ostensibly pro-McCain) organization, Vets for Freedom, is resorting to offering local college fraternities hundreds of dollars if their members come and hold signs.

"I was emailing you today," wrote Meyer, "because I am trying to find people who would be willing to hold up signs for a few hours in the afternoon this Thursday outside the VP debate site. It's only for a few hours and you can gain a lot from it.... first off, lunch for any guys who agree to volunteer will be on me. Secondly, they will get lots of media attention! My organization did a similar thing in Mississippi last week and a ton of them were on TV. Meaning, the guys could wear their McCain gear while holding up our signs and get attention for their frat. Also, they will get to hang out with a bunch of really cool Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans.

"Lastly, and here's the kicker.... if you guys can get us at least 20 volunteers for those few hours, my organization will make a sizable donation to your fraternity. If you use pledges you could look at it as 'free money and free publicity'. If this sounds like something you may be willing to help us out with, please let me know ASAP!"

Reached by phone, Meyer said the total amount of cash the frat could earn was between $200 and $250 for organizing 20-plus members. She also noted that the program was a success in generating publicity during last Friday's presidential debate.

Posted by: James | Oct 1, 2008 6:53:08 PM

"Would you feel comfortable with Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage doing the debate?"

Gwen Ifill is not remotely as partisan.

And for the life of me I can't understand why Savage is allowed to broadcast his special brand of hate let alone being a moderator for a Presidential debate.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 6:52:40 PM

Claire "I ate the whole thing" McCaskill is a joke....a big one at that.

Posted by: Pig face franken | Oct 1, 2008 6:49:30 PM

Attention!

This is NOT a SNL skit!

THIS IS FOR REAL... OMG...

COURIC: What other Supreme Court decisions [than Roe v. Wade] do you disagree with?

PALIN: Well, let's see. There's --of course --in the great history of America rulings there have been rulings, that's never going to be absolute consensus by every American. And there are--those issues, again, like Roe v Wade where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So you know--going through the history of America, there would be others but--

COURIC: Can you think of any?

PALIN: Well, I could think of--of any again, that could be best dealt with on a more local level. Maybe I would take issue with. But you know, as mayor, and then as governor and even as a Vice President, if I'm so privileged to serve, wouldn't be in a position of changing those things but in supporting the law of the land as it reads today.

Posted by: Running on empty | Oct 1, 2008 6:48:56 PM

"The McCain campaign claims they did not know about it until today and John McCain says its fine.

Which is just like John, let the bloggers do the dirty work and pretend you had nothign to do with it. "

First of all McCain isn't to bright for saying that this is just fine and dandy.

Think about it for a second.

Would you feel comfortable with Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage doing the debate?

Posted by: Boris | Oct 1, 2008 6:46:58 PM

"What is stupid about them signing off on Gwen? I heard that the book was not revealed until after they signed by regardless"

Where did you "hear" that Two Jakes?

Book deal was signed and announced in mid July.

Debate negotiations happened in the 1st week of August.

Her writing of the book was featured in WaPo article in early Sept.

The McCain campaign claims they did not know about it until today and John McCain says its fine.

Which is just like John, let the bloggers do the dirty work and pretend you had nothign to do with it.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 6:37:15 PM

What is stupid about them signing off on Gwen? I heard that the book was not revealed until after they signed by regardless Lerher leans conservative and certainly let McCain walk all over Obama. So if it is pay back it is payback. Big Deal. I am for McCain/Palin but I have no problem with Gwen running the debate. Who would you prefer Sean Hannity? Most of the moderators are liberal anyway so what is the issue? When I voted DEM the liberal moderators did nothing for Gore/Liberman or Kerry/Edwards.

I have seen Gwen in interviews and she is not that effective anyway. Donna Brazille would have been more potent.

Just watch the damn show. I heard Gwen may not be a go.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 6:33:17 PM

Brenda -

"Outside of Oregon and Washington Obama couldn't win a primary where people actually went to the polls."

How about Virginia, Georgia, Maryland, the District of Columbia, Illinois, Wisconsin, Alabama, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, South Carolina, Vermont, Missouri, etc.

Do you knowingly misrepresent facts or simply not know any better?

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Oct 1, 2008 6:30:19 PM

"watch fox news tonight the subject on the Greta show will be Jake Tapper's blog and deleted posts."
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Hurray! I WILL watch.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 6:26:22 PM

Yah, Hairplug Joe's head is just so chuck full of all kinds of facts and info that he tries to spit out too much some times and comes up with "1929 President Roosevelt saving the country with his TV speech". He's really, really, really bright compared to poor dimwit Palin. He's sooooo smart he graduated 78th out of 86 in his law school class at U Delaware after nearly being kicked out for plagiarism. But then, I guess he does look pretty well informed compared to the empty suit at the top of his ticket!

Posted by: Ron | Oct 1, 2008 6:24:48 PM

Asked during an interview Wednesday with Fox’s Carl Cameron whether Ifill should excuse herself as the debate moderator, McCain acknowledged the potential conflict of interest but expressed confidence in the longtime journalist.

“I think that Gwen Ifill is a professional and I think that she will do a totally objective job because she is a highly respected professional,” McCain said during an interview at the Harry S. Truman Library and Museum. “Does this help…if she has written a book that’s favorable to Senator Obama? Probably not. But I have confidence that Gwen Ifill will do a professional job and I have that confidence.”

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 6:23:47 PM

"Obama contributions are being made by key operatives with "walking around money".

The method used is to buy disposable charge cards and give amounts under $200. With a disposable charge card, any name can be used."
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The Obama campaign is trolling in California for people to BUY them TELEPHONE cards, and God knows what else, bundled through local operatives.

One might wonder how many "real" names gleaned from the cell-phone games at the Invesco event are now attached to "small donations" that didn't actually come from the named "donors".

Not much time left to nail the machine.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 6:23:46 PM

The Two Jakes,

Obama has returned some $1.5 Million in refunds.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 6:22:37 PM

LOL!


By agreeing to the selection of Gwen Ifill to moderate the vice presidential debate, despite her obvious conflict of interest regarding the presidential election, Republicans have shown why they are called "the stupid party," Richard A. Viguerie, the Chairman of ConservativeHQ, said.
"How could the negotiators have signed off on a liberal moderator who has a book coming out on Inauguration Day heralding the 'Age of Obama'?" Viguerie asked.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 6:21:06 PM

Kathy, your sense of the relative significance of gaffes is rather surprising, and your characterization of the two "gaffes" is factually incorrect. You say that Biden "misspoke" that the Depression was covered on television-- that's not even close to a correct explanation of his gaffe. He said that after the crash of 1929, Roosevelt went on television to reassure the public. See, that's much different-- a major whooper, since Roosevelt was not president in 1929, television was not around for the general public, and it would be years before ANY president showed up on ANY television to talk to the public. If Palin had made this statement, the media's collective hair would have been on fire as they rushed to tell us all how stupid this proves she is. The assumption would be that she didn't know any different. However, no one seems to think that Joe Biden truly does not know who was president in 1929, etc. It's just "good old Joe, he talks like that."

Palin, on the other hand, you describe as suggesting that "being able to see Russia across the straights is equivilent to foreign policy experience," when that is not precisely what she said, either. She argued in her first Couric interview that Alaska, geographically close to Russia, is more intimately involved with that country than other parts of the country and gives her a unique perspective on that country. The full transcript of the interview, from the CBS website, shows that she talked about things that connect Alaska and Russia, such as trade and missile defense, then Couric pressed her for more info and she added the "you can see Russia from here" part that was then edited as the full answer to the initial question. To be fair, I admit that the excised material was not terribly polished and was a weak answer, but it was a fuller and more logical answer than "we can see them." Yet people latch onto the statement, usually quoting the Tina Fey version-- the wickedly funny "I can see Russia from my house" and bash her for it. I think there is very much a double standard here. Neither of these folks has been particularly "smooth" of late, yet I do not use that fact to assume that either of them is a drooling idiot. I will even stipulate that both of them are highly intelligent-- yep, I said it. Both of them.

Posted by: moderate | Oct 1, 2008 6:20:12 PM

watch fox news tonight the subject on the Greta show will be Jake Tapper's blog and deleted posts.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 6:19:39 PM

jpt quotes McCaskill on Biden:
“He’s very authentic."
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Biden's a TYPE: cheesy-machismo/drunk-uncle. If that's what constitutes "authenticity" for McCaskill, she might have been in Congress too long.

Come to think of it, given her "Democratic" campaign-for-Obama's police-state intimidation of local media in Missouri, she HAS been in Congress too long -- long enough to see herself as a ruler, rather than as a citizens' representative.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 1, 2008 6:18:49 PM

OBAMA CAMPAIGN WORKER TALKS:


In a letter dated June 25, 2008, the FEC asked the Obama campaign to verify a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified as "Will, Good" from Austin, Texas. Mr. Good Will listed his employer as "Loving" and his profession as "You." A Newsmax analysis of the 1.4 million individual contributions in the latest master file for the Obama campaign discovered 1,000 separate entries for Mr. Good Will, most of them for $25. In total, Mr. Good Will gave $17,375. Following this and subsequent FEC requests, campaign records show that 330 contributions from Mr. Good Will were credited back to a credit card. But the most recent report, filed on Sept. 20, showed a net cumulative balance of $8,950 - still well over the $4,600 limit.

Obama contributions are being made by key operatives with "walking around money".

The method used is to buy disposable charge cards and give amounts under $200. With a disposable charge card, any name can be used. The ones mentioned in the article were easy to find.

You can find the rest of them by examining Obama's server logs. You'll see that on many occassions, inside of 20 minutes, several people have given money from the same IP address.

More than likely, thats Soros funded "volunteer", a union hack or some other connected person sitting at a Starbucks wiht a laptop, using the disposable charge cards and phony names to make contributions.

This would explain a significant portion of all the "new" small donors Obama claims to have.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 6:17:53 PM

Does anyone want to tell Hero the policy about url's being removed or should we just let him continue to earn his McCain points?

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 6:16:52 PM

"Anyone following McCain's diva act about Ifill?"

Blip, I thought the McCain campaign was going to let their PR firm FoxNews and assorted bloggers handle that.

Details?

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 6:14:57 PM

Wow! McCain must be doing poorly in the polls... the McCain campaign is reheating those old, debunked Larry Sinclair smears again.

Well... I suppose I didn't expect McCain to win on the issues.

So... the gutter it is.

What's next? Is Obama really Batboy? HAHA

Posted by: Blip | Oct 1, 2008 6:12:37 PM

Anyone following McCain's diva act about Ifill? He's worse than a prom queen the way he flies into fits of drama.

Posted by: Blip | Oct 1, 2008 6:07:34 PM

Biden does say some stupid stuff....

But Biden is a warm, decent human being. When he shoots his mouth off... he means well. Obama is very, very cautious, especially when making foreign policy decisions.

McCain says some stupid things...

But he is a mean and hot tempered. He doesn't hesitate to talk about making North Koreans extinct or nuking Iran. And Palin has even less sense on international issues.

There is a world of difference between the two tickets. McCain's is genuinely dangerous. He cannot even take tough questions from Americans without letting his rage boil over.

I'll take Obama Biden any day.

Posted by: Blip | Oct 1, 2008 6:05:40 PM

Oh No! HERO!!!!

Poor people voting!!!!

What could be worse than that!!!!


Posted by: Blip | Oct 1, 2008 6:01:37 PM

I thought that George Bush and cohorts got us into this mess. Weren't they the ones who threw all of the Arabists out of Washington because the Arabists told them they were nuts to invade Iraq?

They just replaced all of the knowledgeable people with loyalists who didn't know anything, but they were loyal. And wasn't Bush the guy who everyone wanted to sit down and have a beer with? We all know where that went.

I want people in charge this time who are knowledgeable and intellectually curious, and who will think "diplomacy" instead of "war".

Posted by: Donna Hughes | Oct 1, 2008 5:57:16 PM

Conservative judicial group drops Rezko, Ayers and, yes, Wright on Obama

WONDER WHEN THEY GONNA DROP THE LIMO AND DONALD YOUNG ?

Posted by: HERO | Oct 1, 2008 5:53:51 PM

Typical Democrat - always throwing one of their own under the bus! Do you really want this guy just a heart-beat away from the Presidency?! As one poster so aptly put it:

Obama = Dumb
Biden = Dumber

Posted by: Beckie | Oct 1, 2008 5:53:28 PM

"As a Vice-President, Joe Biden shooting off his mouth could start a major war or create a serious diplomatic incident." --- And as a vice-president, Sarah Palin just talking normally would be very LIKELY to accomplish that goal. I'll take my chances with Joe, thank you (and sleep quite soundly).

Posted by: Elizabeth | Oct 1, 2008 5:51:33 PM

Fiona, that's why we actually go ahead and have the elections-- polls alone just won't cut it. Being behind in the polls at this point does not mean that McCain will necessarily lose the election come Nov. 4. We don't just take a poll and declare a winner. A poll gives us a snapshot that suggests certain tendencies; it is not definitive.

I suspect if McCain has any trouble sleeping at night, it is caused by frustration at the me-first, childish, partisan, bickering Congress that threatened to run the rescue plan off the cliff, or by his anxiousness to get into the Oval Office come January and start putting his ideas to improve our government into practice. I am quite sure that he loses not one minute of sleep sweating the latest poll results.

Posted by: moderate | Oct 1, 2008 5:51:22 PM

Breaking News: Gwen Iffel is on her way out of the Debate. The Commission on Debates got too many phone calls.

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 5:50:22 PM

Not all gaffes are the same. If Biden mis-speaks that the depression in '29 was covered on TV, and Palin argues that being able to see Russia across the straights is equivilent to foreign policy experience, then the comparison is silly.

McCain and Palin know that we want them to demonstrate that palin has the credentials to lead, both as VP and, heaven forbid, as President if need be. Therefore, we wonder, is she being funny? Giving the press a hard time because she views the press as being biased against her, or, is this a continued attempt to claim that the public shouldn't even ask?

Well, she told us what she means, she thinks the very question is mocking her.

On Biden being Biden, we have confidence that he knows the difference between being next to Russia and having an understanding of Russia and their changing policy.

I do see a difference here, and all the attempts to try an correlate these two just magnifies the difference.

BTW, has Palin delivered the information she promised to Katie?

Posted by: Kathy | Oct 1, 2008 5:49:13 PM

bank from the troops watch out Obama. The October surprise is coming

Posted by: The Two Jakes | Oct 1, 2008 5:47:18 PM

"It is funny when people bring up cell phones v landlines. Like repubs do not have cell phone"

"Cell phone only" demographics skew towards renters, people under 30 and minorities.

Those groups skew Democrat.

Check out the Pew study on cell phone only vs land line only.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 1, 2008 5:47:07 PM

New Tax earmarks in Bailout bill

- Film and Television Productions (Sec. 502)
- Wooden Arrows designed for use by children (Sec. 503)
- 6 page package of earmarks for litigants in the 1989 Exxon Valdez incident, Alaska (Sec. 504)
Tax earmark “extenders” in the bailout bill.
- Virgin Island and Puerto Rican Rum (Section 308)
- American Samoa (Sec. 309)
- Mine Rescue Teams (Sec. 310)
- Mine Safety Equipment (Sec. 311)
- Domestic Production Activities in Puerto Rico (Sec. 312)
- Indian Tribes (Sec. 314, 315)
- Railroads (Sec. 316)
- Auto Racing Tracks (317)
- District of Columbia (Sec. 322)
- Wool Research (Sec. 325)


Posted by: HERO | Oct 1, 2008 5:44:22 PM

There are 83 Internet sites that engage in electoral vote projections and predictions.

Of these 83, 80 now project a win for Obama, 2 project a tie, and 1 (one) projects a win for McCain.

McCain, how do you sleep at night?

Posted by: fiona | Oct 1, 2008 5:32:59 PM

It is funny when people bring up cell phones v landlines. Like repubs do not have cell phones. Keep telling yourself the little o is going to pull it out. Just burn down your own neighborhoods.
Obama 08

Posted by: Lou | Oct 1, 2008 5:31:16 PM

Interesting that the left want's to knock populism. After all, aren't the left of the elite intelligensia? You know, the same intelligent people who got us into this current financial mess? Whoa! Hang on, they didn't stop there. Kalifornia is still struggling with 'energy deregualtion' from 6 years ago. At the time it was called 'complicated'. But the elite of the left assured Kalifornia voters it was put together by State Senator Peace (DEMOCRAT), and that he was 'the smartest man' in the senate.
I'll take ill-informed populism with it's common sense over liberal intelligence any day of the week. As for Capt America mentioning Roe v Wade, isn't that the ONLY SCOTUS decision the left is familiar with?

Posted by: GarandFan | Oct 1, 2008 5:28:37 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Pelosi paid husband with PAC funds
$99,000 for rent, utilities, accounting fees

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has directed nearly $100,000 from her political action committee to her husband’s real estate and investment firm over the past decade, a practice of paying a spouse with political donations that she supported banning last year.


Posted by: HERO | Oct 1, 2008 5:26:41 PM

Joe's "Bidenisms" are just the product of having too many facts and word associations lined up and trying to get out at once. They might sound really dumb but if you