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McCain Offended by Lewis' Comments; Calls On Obama to Condemn
October 11, 2008 3:12 PM
Clearly wounded by the remarks of Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., condemning the tone at his rallies, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., issued this statement a few minutes ago.
"Congressman John Lewis' comments represent a character attack against Governor Sarah Palin and me that is shocking and beyond the pale," McCain said. "The notion that legitimate criticism of Senator Obama's record and positions could be compared to Governor George Wallace, his segregationist policies and the violence he provoked is unacceptable and has no place in this campaign."
McCain continued, saying "I am saddened that John Lewis, a man I've always admired, would make such a brazen and baseless attack on my character and the character of the thousands of hardworking Americans who come to our events to cheer for the kind of reform that will put America on the right track."
"I call on Senator Obama to immediately and personally repudiate these outrageous and divisive comments that are so clearly designed to shut down debate 24 days before the election. Our country must return to the important debate about the path forward for America."
UPDATE: Obama spox Bill Burton responds to McCain's statements: "Senator Obama does not believe that John McCain or his policy criticism is in any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies. But John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night, as well as the baseless and profoundly irresponsible charges from his own running mate that the Democratic nominee for President of the United States 'pals around with terrorists.' "
- jpt
October 11, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (1602)
If McCain's past makes him a 'sidekick', then Obama's past makes him an empty suit, who's accomplished nothing in 20 years, except for hanging out with anti-American Markists, racists, terrorists, and crooks.
Posted by: Howard | Nov 2, 2008 1:57:49 PM
WHEN WILL THE TRUTH ABOUT MCCAIN COME OUT ASK HIM ABOUT SONGBIRD MCCAIN AND WHAT IT MEANS HE'S WHATS COMMONLY KNOWN AS A TRAITOR THE VC NEVER TOUCHED HIM AND HE TOLD EVERYTHING THINK I'M LYING THEN WHY IS HIS SERVICE RECORD BRING SURPRESSED FOLLOW THE MONEY AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF ARE U AFRIAD OF THE TRUTH VET WHO KNOWS
Posted by: JAY | Oct 26, 2008 2:20:37 AM
Personally, I think the most terrifying part of this page is not the extreme nature of the opinions expressed on it, but the pitiful lack of grammatical correctness. I am seventeen and my writing is at least spelled, for the most part, correctly. Also, if you are going to write a comment, please know how to spell McCain, Palin and Obama.
What frightens me, especially after reading many of these comments, is that the people who are able to vote are often voting on the basis of spurious information. The skewed views, likely provided by the media, shadow the real issues. I'm not going to reveal my opinion, because frankly I am only seventeen and cannot vote in this election (sadly). However, I will say this: please make an informed decision, do some research. Palin is inexperienced, but guess what, Obama is as well! Decide on your own which team is going to do a better job running the country, and do so only after being well-versed in what each team stands for and their basic plans. Keep in mind that plans will certainly change once the White House has been won; one may promise a million dollars to each American, but guess what, once they get what they want, it doesn't mean it's going to happen. Ignorance is not bliss in politics.
Lastly, keep it classy. Don't degrade yourselves because of politics. Children don't vote for a reason; adults recently have degraded in their maturity levels. Remember, you are being watched by the next generation; what do you want us to think? Respect one another.
Happy informed voting. =)
Posted by: thisispainful | Oct 17, 2008 9:08:11 AM
McCain's campaign shouldn't be shock by this. Palin started it with her commit and the hatred and fear lead to "Cut off his head." Race baiting is a big problem with McCain's campaign and Lewis is right. Play with fire and someone will get burn. Either someone will be murdered by a nut case backing McCain or the people will rejected McCain all together.
Posted by: Ethel | Oct 13, 2008 9:10:30 AM
catherine, I agree with you wholeheartedly. But I wish people would stop equating Bush with disaster. It was CARTER and CLINTON that screwed up the economy. Bush and Petraeus and all our nation's best DEFENDED us abroad even if Bush and Congress didn't defend us from our demestic threat: Sellout Democrat politicians.
Anyone catch Biden saying how unpatriotic overseas tax shelters are?
pfft Dems. It was CLINTON that signed the DEMOCRAT bill that covered their rich asses.
Its as if the Dems sabotaged the US JUST for this election! Just to ave dirt to blame on Republicans!
Traitors.
Anyway most of the anti-Bush rhetoric came from anti-Americans across the pond. Kids here bought it.. unsurprizingly since their attention span is now measured in microseconds. Hook line and sinker.
And Obama, the GREAT apologist played on it for this election. Even went to europe to thank them.
I know truth to a liberal is like a cross to a vampire, but history will be kind to George Bush after the anti-Americans have died down.
Posted by: crackhead | Oct 13, 2008 8:39:47 AM
Obama should be questioned about everything. It's obvious he cannot be trusted. He will do and say anything to be elected. He is overdriven by ambition. He does not care about the American people. If he gets his foot in the White house you will see the real Obama. Worse than BUsh can ever be. Wake up America--in these shaky times--McCain has been tested over and over. Obama doesn't come close to the man McCain is.
Posted by: catherine | Oct 13, 2008 5:40:23 AM
After reading most of the posts above I am truly concerned for the future of this great nation. If this is representative of the level of discussion about our future leader, we are all in trouble no matter who wins.
Posted by: Jim | Oct 13, 2008 1:38:36 AM
I love it when Obama supporters attack Bush. It tells me how much they’re afraid to attack McCain. I love it when they use terms like McSame or McBush. That tells me that they’re afraid to compare Obama’s record to McCain’s. I love it when they question Palin’s experience. It tells me they don’t like the comparison to McCain’s experience. I love it when they attack the Republican party. That tells me they don’t want us to look at their candidate individually. Obama and his supporters don’t want to run a race against McCain because they can’t win. They’ll keep the focus on Bush as long as possible. That combined with voter fraud might get Obama elected.
Posted by: Oonogil | Oct 13, 2008 12:24:42 AM
Belle Starr, people with your violent attitudes are why I wrote the following article:
This is another exhibit of why Palin is clearly unsuitable as a representative leader for our country. For someone who claims to be pro-life, there is obviously a conflict of philosophy and moral values within Palin – and even McCain. How can anyone in a leadership capacity, such as a public official, not foresee the implications of the inflammatory provocation caused by the stirring of fears that we all know are rooted in racism? Her preparation for Vice Presidency, let alone the Presidency, requires more than she can handle intellectually or morally, despite her self-professed beliefs on religious and moral law.
And no, it doesn’t matter how good she and her supporters thinks she looks, how many times she winks and bats her eyelashes, how clever and conniving she thinks she is, or how well she acts the part of a clued-in public servant when well-prepped. All the cloaking and posturing will not shroud her unpreparedness and disconnectedness from the masses while she aligns herself strictly to the right. She should know how to bridge lines and appeal all people across segments if she truly wishes to represent “the people”. But then maybe I have it all wrong. Perhaps all that matters is her Alaskan agenda to set up a separatist movement from the U.S. or to have us all under some religious rite and order that she and her secessionist cohorts wish to bring into existence. Who knows?
All that she has exhibited to date is that she masters the polarization of people through religion and race while using her gender and sex appeal to pander to males. All while brewing hate-mongering to create a potentially disastrous clash among people and party lines in this political race. She is obviously trying to map her way on the backs of old prejudices and fears and be damned any who are hurt. What kind of woman, mother, wife, public official is this? One who professes to revere “life” while willing to jeopardize the life of a United States Senator, such as Obama, and his family? What about Obama’s wife and his daughters? Is it worth it to Palin, a mother herself, to risk the stability and safety of two little girls just to feed the embers of hate with such an insatiable hunger for power so as to boost her own platform? If so, I say this purely defines the character of a woman who is unfit for any office, let alone the Vice Presidency.
It’s one thing to raise issues of concern of an opponent’s platform. That I can get. I can understand a true desire to get at “truth”, but to use a covert means to create derision and divisiveness by elevating fears as irresponsibly as she and the McCain campaign has done is beyond disgusting; it is a crime, especially and whereby in this case it is heightening attitudes of violence against an UNITED STATES PUBLIC OFFICIAL who has committed no crime other than building hope while having the physical characteristic of a so-called “difference” or as McCain has given a moniker of difference: “That One”. Who’s the would-be terrorist now?!
Posted by: conscious_wryter | Oct 12, 2008 11:32:06 PM
How very sad. It is interesting to note that the computer age allows comments from everyone. I sincerely hope our choices will be made by those with cool calculations. While it can be said Obama is Black, he is also white,
While he served on boards with a former wrong thinking young man who was a 60"s self described terrorist he also served with others who can be considered with distinction. Mr. Obama also lived in a part of Chicago where there were known felons. There were also law enforcement persons there.
It could be said that McCain lived and hung out with the Viet Cong. While true we recognize him as one of Americas military who served us well.
Ms. Palin has admitted a "relationship" with comunist Russia. I for one fear her relationship with her church and her beliefs as much as those of the Obama's virulent pastor.
Folks, We have a choice, We need to make it wisely, If we are lucky we will have a president we can be proud of. A future ex-president we can count on to help our position in the shrinking world we live on. Either Mr. McCain will become president or Mr. Obama. The fear that we could have had better choices my resound for years, We have what we have. It is our duty as citizens to support and to assist whoever becomes our next president. If we and our children are to have a future anywhere as good as was our past, it will take all of us.
We owe this help to our grandchildren and our great grandchildren.
God bless the United States and
Semper Fi
Posted by: 1 Old Guy | Oct 12, 2008 10:42:47 PM
Lewis will be under the bus by morning. And in this case, it's deserved.
Posted by: free to speak | Oct 12, 2008 10:35:52 PM
If McCane has an ounce of self-respect left, he will render a public apology to the American People - Republicans and Democrats - for the racist hate-filled dangerous divisive demagoguery of his campaign.
The McCain we see on the campaign trail is not the McCain that many once admired if not for any other reason, his service in the US Armed Forces and the years of his life he had to sacrifice as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. My Republican friends are saddened by the fact that McCain in a desperate attempt to win the presidential election at all costs, irrevocably tarnish his own reputation and legacy. I personally don't think that there is much of reputation to tarnish - other than perhaps the carefully crafted public persona McCain has created for himself. The reality, given his ties to criminals like Gordon Liddy (of Watergate notoriety, an advocate of domestic terrorism), his cosy relationship with Cuban terrorists, and his and his wife Cindy McCain's intimate connections with organized crime, is much uglier.
As for Sarah Pallin, David Brooks, a dyed-in-the-wool Bill Buckleyite conservative is right on the mark when he called Sarah Palin "a fatal cancer to the Republican Party". In other words, the Republican party has a deadly case of SARAH PALINOMA.
If the Republican Party does not want to lose all those decent Republicans who are getting disgusted with McCane-Palin candidacy, it needs to denounce the McCain-Palin candidacy and focus on tough task ahead - that of rebuilding the Republican Party on the principles thatthe great Republican luminaries Abraham Lincoln stood for.
Posted by: Jane Sixpack | Oct 12, 2008 9:17:06 PM
Niun another reason why this is true because Mccain had to tone down his supporters in Wisconsin....Mccain has created an environment off of ignorance and pure hate rather than....thought, research, and issues!!
~~~~~~~ WHERE IS THE PROOF I DONT SEE THE VIDOES ON TV I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE ALL OVER TV ITS NOT!!
Posted by: niun | Oct 12, 2008 8:52:55 PM
Dear bagwong, Do you really stand behind your statement? (I personally don't blame the terrorist for what they are doing to America but I condone what they are doing and what the US is doing. If you analyze all the facts, throw in some intelligence into it, you'll see that America has brought it to itself..) If so why? I have to tell you I am starting to get the feeling that BHO suporters have the same mind set as their leader along with his reverend of 20 years. Listen, as an ex Marine and major fan of the American IDEA, there always comes to mind a certain quote by Alexis de Tacqueville, "America is great because America is good. When America ceases to be good, she will cease to be great." My kind sir, America is GOOD; THEREFORE, AMERICA IS GREAT!
Posted by: Stephen Decker | Oct 12, 2008 8:52:49 PM
Niun another reason why this is true because Mccain had to tone down his supporters in Wisconsin....Mccain has created an environment off of ignorance and pure hate rather than....thought, research, and issues!!
~~~~~~~ WHERE IS THE PROOF I DONT SEE THE VIDOES ON TV I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE ALL OVER TV ITS NOT!!
Posted by: niun | Oct 12, 2008 8:52:08 PM
bagwrong:
Bush was associated with the Bin Laden's and that was well documented. Yet you elected him president. Did anyone question his patriotism??? He went to war with Iraq which has nothing to do with 9/11 which resulted to the deaths of hundreds of thousands and indirectly resulting in the US' financial breakdown!
YET, DID ANYONE QUESTION HIS PATRIOTISM???
_________
EGGZACTLY!!!!
That's why Obama's associations and under-the tgable achievements... like collecting public funds from earmarks to his church and his wife ... and from
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.... and the misappropriation of funds from housing to radical education groups backed by Ayers (which did nothing to improve the education in Chicago, by the way!)... and now, this new involvement of these groups in the re-writing of voter registration lists.....
THAT's why you CANNOT let this stuff get buried under the corrupt political carpet!
Open Your M I N D S!!!!
Troopergate.... is a peanut in a pond compared to this.
Posted by: questioner | Oct 12, 2008 8:26:46 PM
i personally dont care what obama has to do to become president,in this case the ends totally justify the means...
I DONT CARE IF OBAMA IS LUCIFER IN DISGUISE, HE IS MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER FOR THIS COUNTRY THAN ANY REPUBLICAN ...
Posted by: bah | Oct 12, 2008 8:12:38 PM
John Lewis speaks the TRUTH.
McSAME and Palin owe America and the World a LONG LIST of apologies!!!
Posted by: m | Oct 12, 2008 8:06:09 PM
What's your problem with Obama's "associations???"
Bush was associated with the Bin Laden's and that was well documented. Yet you elected him president. Did anyone question his patriotism??? He went to war with Iraq which has nothing to do with 9/11 which resulted to the deaths of hundreds of thousands and indirectly resulting in the US' financial breakdown!
YET, DID ANYONE QUESTION HIS PATRIOTISM???
Even anyone of you at one time might have been acquainted or mingled with a convict, an ex-convict or a convict to be but does that make you a criminal?? Does your "association" with such persons diminish your being you?
In this time of crisis not only financial but also the diminishing outlook of the world on the USA, you need a man who will not incite and who will not lose focus. That is what is happening to McCain. The rest of the world leaders are intelligent, charming, tricky, etc..who would rip McCain apart and make the US pathetic should he win.
The Nov. 4 election is not about people the candidates know...its what they know and how they are going to use it for the US.
The comments about race, "associations", patriotism just shows how ignorant Americans are of the world. US politics not only affect the Americans but the world. So, in making your choice you should consider the world.
Its true America portrays a culture of war mongering and war geared aura. Even the economy is based on wars. That has to be changed. Everything about the US is war. People around the world who never heard about the US and Americans now know about it...and their knowledge is associated with war if not death. The news trumpets about the US and its wars everyday.
I personally don't blame the terrorist for what they are doing to America but I condone what they are doing and what the US is doing. If you analyze all the facts, throw in some intelligence into it, you'll see that America has brought it to itself..
November 4 is our chance to rectify whatever wrong done in the past. Choose wisely who will lead our country. Our choice will reflect who the Americans are.
Would it be a war veteran who trumpets his feats earned in an unpopular invasion or would it be a black man who trumpets change?
Its your choice.
Posted by: bagwong | Oct 12, 2008 7:54:10 PM
McSAME and Palin are extensions of HATE radio and the lies they tell. The RepubliCON RED banner is only missing the sickle and the hammer!
Posted by: m | Oct 12, 2008 7:53:27 PM
Obama owes those bigots no apology; McCain/Palin owe him and the American public one!
I look forward to Palin's apology for all the lies she's told about Obama during her public vetting process. I look forward to Palin's apology for her participation in AIP functions and other anti-American terrorist organizations. I look forward to McCain's apology for his associations with his best bud the spying, stealing Liddy and anti-American Singaub.
Those are the apologies and condemnations necessary.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | Oct 12, 2008 7:39:42 PM
McCain doesn't like to be compared to someone who had a bad reputation 40 years ago. He wants Obama to humbly apologize for the words of someone who does not speak for him and yet McCain is not apologizing for the inflammatory words that his own partner says, the inflammatory words that he has said himself. The attacks on Obama are not legitimate questions about Obama's character, they are simply attacks aimed to make people equate Obama with a terrorist.
I see way too many people saying that the press is on Obama's side, simply because they have found no evidence that Obama has real, substantial ties to Ayers. These people are so afraid of Obama that they want there to be something there so badly that they won't accept anything else. Forget the facts, let's convict him on the basis of contact alone.
Are they convicting everyone else who has any connection to Ayers as a terrorist as well? Are the students who take his classes all terrorists? Do we really want to live in an America where the thinnest of connections can be sparked into guilt. Like it or not Ayers has never been convicted of a crime. His actions took place 40 years ago, when Obama was a child. Obama has repeatedly denounced Ayers and yet none of that is enough.
Posted by: Nataya | Oct 12, 2008 7:23:52 PM
Niun another reason why this is true because Mccain had to tone down his supporters in Wisconsin....Mccain has created an environment off of ignorance and pure hate rather than....thought, research, and issues!!
Posted by: votes count | Oct 12, 2008 7:08:48 PM
stephen..I am still trying to find this quote can you direct me to the website. The only quote I could find is this about Obama and the flagpin:******
Barack Obama has an unexpected ally in the spat over his decision to stop wearing an American flag lapel pin, which he says has become a substitute for "true patriotism" since 9/11.
Chris Wallace, host of Fox News Sunday, said this morning that he doesn't wear a flag pin either "because I kind of agree [with Obama] to the extent that I think that you can be a true patriot and not wear it."
Fox News has been covering Obama's flag pin comments heavily today, far more than the other cable news nets. At one point, Fox legal correspondent Judge Andrew Napolitano declared that Obama was "disrespecting the American flag" to appeal "to a hard-left audience." (Strangely, Napolitano voiced the very opposite opinion during the same segment. "I don't think it makes you less patriotic at all," he said. "I don't wear the pin, and I'm a patriot." Huh?)
Watch video of Wallace:
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Posted by: votes count | Oct 12, 2008 6:57:26 PM
chattyway...sure! whatever you want to discuss..Mcain and Palin's hate rallies?
Posted by: votes count | Oct 12, 2008 6:46:51 PM
If the below happened on Meet The Press, what was the date? And why is this guy even in the race? And now once again Obama plays the race card. This is America, Right? I don't mean he can't run. Just does'nt seem he should repersent a major party.
Quote from the mouth of Sen. Obama himself from Sundays Meet the Press:
"As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. 'We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of warring people, should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair injustice. My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America." unquote
Posted by: Stephen Decker | Oct 12, 2008 6:41:27 PM
Caroyln...You are missing the whole point!!!! Mccain agree to talk about Obama instead of the issues(economy, oil, health care). He agreed to talk about his associates...FINE! He was walking a thin line!! Somehow Palin started the "name calling" and Mccain followed and it has gotten out of hand!!! Now this government it's not in the presidential race, but he is voicing what other people are saying(not in exact words). Mccain is not the honorable man that we use to trust. He just hit a all time low and people are sick of it and are going to stand up to it!!! Mccain cant handle his oun smears. He wants this guy to apologize, but Mccain cant even stop the crap he is pulling....there is no comparison!!! sorry!
Posted by: votes count | Oct 12, 2008 6:40:24 PM
Wonder if anyone in the media will report or show pictures of the hateful t-shirts worn by obamabots at the McCain/Palin rallies? Saying things like "Palin is a C**T" or "Palin is a B***H" (except they don't use the ***'s)
Oh wait...that might interfere with the media's grand propagandist theories that the "hateful racists" at the McCain/Palin rallies have anything they might have been ticked off by as they entered into the events....
We're three weeks away from the annointing of Farrakan's "Messiah"... God have mercy on us all...
Posted by: Michelle | Oct 12, 2008 6:40:01 PM
Votes count...care to post a link? HMM???
Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 6:38:52 PM
>>How come Republicans can't respect the personal property of others?
Posted by: Lotus | Oct 12, 2008 12:26:24 PM
Night before last my yard sign was tossed into a nearby storm drain and a bumper sticker torn off my car. I assume it was the same person that stole a half a tank of gas the same night.
Oh... btw, it was a no-obama09.com bumper sticker and a McCain/Palin yard sign... the 3rd one torn down or stolen.
I could say... 'how come Democrats can't respect the personal property of others' but that would be stupid and pointless. No one 'side' has the monopoly on, or a mandate for, ignorant behavior.
Posted by: heart | Oct 12, 2008 6:36:27 PM
If there was not so much at stake for our country this election, this matter of John Lewis questioning the McCain-Palin speechifying tendency to incite or inspire would all be laugh out loud funny. We have a candidate who, based upon his campaign and political history up to now, likely would not even be a serious contender for the office of President of the United States but for the race (ethnicity) of the other candidate. What reasonable person believes John McCain would ever have had a shot at winning this race had Barack Obama been white, named Joe Schmoe, with Barack Obama’s middle class focused politics, academic credentials, humble beginnings, and steadfast temperament?
We have another candidate who would be a heart beat away from the presidency whose only claims to fame are an insubstantial populist “ism based” agenda and unspoken religious beliefs that scare the “bejibbies” out of anyone who can foresee a sad moment when she has to take over the reigns of the presidency because John McCain succumbs to one or more of his existing ailments or disabilities.
So now when John Lewis calls McCain and Palin out on their last ditch effort to get the Republican vote out by “sowing the seeds of hatred and division,” I am supposed to what, see John Lewis as playing the race card?
John McCain, please! One of the only reasons why you are still a serious competitor in this race for President is the race card, which according to the polls began being played in your favor from the moment it became clear that Barack Obama, a black Senator from Illinois, would be your competitor. Furthermore Sir John, you should thank your lucky stars that race and gender hatred both came up in the Democratic nomination process making it possible for you to almost legitimately claim your undeserved and all but unchallenged 6 or more point boost in the polls because Obama is black and Palin is not Hillary.
Posted by: DMD2 | Oct 12, 2008 6:32:58 PM
It's amazing that Obama supporters don't have a problem with accusing McCain and Palin of racism when they talk about Obama's relationship with Ayres but defend Rep. John Lewis when he spews vile incendiary remarks about them and compares them to Gov. Geo. Wallace in the 60's. I see hypocracy. I hope McCain and Palin keep bringing up the bad people Obama has associated with over the years and we will keep digging until we find out every thing he is trying to hide.
Posted by: Carolyn | Oct 12, 2008 6:32:24 PM
I knew Obama would be playing the race card often.............I think he and his people would lie about racist remarks in order to try hide behind the race card when facts about how slimey Obama is started to surface. It's the same bs they did with Bill Clinton.
Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 6:30:58 PM
Why is it after McCain and his Unethical sidekick Palin throw matches into the crowd put on this act of being surprised a fire has started? Their attempt at plausible deniability is laughable. They knew it was going to ignite something, but the backfire caught them off guard. Then when sternly rebuked by a man of honor Rep. John Lewis for match throwing. McCain calls on Obama to “Personally repudiate these outrageous and divisive comments” as if Obama uttered them himself. And in some way act, as he never did anything to justify the scolding.
I stand by my post of Friday in describing the atmosphere of the McCain / Palin campaign:
(You reap what you sow…
What has become the Church of the Angry Base the McCain/Palin revival is showing it’s true colors. Rev. John and the Deacon of Deception (Palin) have promoted anger to advance their cause. Now the Rev. has seen the light of hate he’s exposed within the ranks of his blind followers. He needs to dim the spotlight exposing his soul!)
Posted by: Kim | Oct 12, 2008 6:23:21 PM
anna...thank you for the information on the Anneberg project.
Posted by: votes count | Oct 12, 2008 6:16:26 PM
Niun, I was wondering why there was no tape of this rally where that was supposedly said. It is just obama and his flunkies trying to distract from the real facts coming out about Obama.
BY chattyway
~~~~~ I KNOW if people were saying kill him why don't they show the tape?Where is the proof they know this i fabricated! People called the radio and said this never happened and couple people not only one. The media is so protecting obama that it is so sad!
Posted by: Niun | Oct 12, 2008 6:06:07 PM
All of you cut and paste Palin lovers give it a break , we have read all of this crap back in the primaries , dont have a McCain plan on the economy , I didnt think so , VOTE OBAMA
Posted by: hicktick | Oct 12, 2008 5:51:02 PM
What will McCain do about all the other sympathizers who worked at the Annanberg Foundation? Will he smear them too? American condemns John McCain and the way his campaign carpet-bombs rational discussion with lies, smears and conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | Oct 12, 2008 5:42:19 PM
If we could just "rip" all those liberal Demos out of the Senate and Congress we could reform America. They vote down every good idea.
It's ridiculous to continually blame the Republicans for the war. The record shows Democrats start most wars:
FDRooservelt (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ... an average of 112,500 per year. Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea
never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ... an average of 18,334 per year. John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam> never attacked us. Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ... an average of 5,800 per year. Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions. (Think about what else was going on during that time in the Clinton Whitehouse!!)
Posted by: Lee | Oct 12, 2008 5:27:31 PM
You are still so funny. I remember finding a 'Benz' hood ornament one time when I was young. I glued it to my toyota. You get the drift....maybe not.
Posted by: tendergroins | Oct 12, 2008 5:21:27 PM
Favorite story today: "On the fence no longer, 106 year old Catholic nun, Sister Cecilia Gaudette says she has made up her mind to cast a vote for Barack Obama."
Posted by: sawrad | Oct 12, 2008 5:21:02 PM
From www.editorandpublisher.com: "Barack Obama picked up at least 12 newspaper endorsements this weekend, including six in swing states Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina and Missouri. John McCain, as far as we know, gained none." The wise choice is increasingly obvious ... Obama/Biden '08!
Posted by: sawrad | Oct 12, 2008 5:19:40 PM
Remember Obama saying he would sit with
Ahmadinejad without any preconditions?
What do you think about this?
Iran Sets Preconditions for US Meeting
World | Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 8:51:49 am PDT
Barack Obama may intend to meet with Iran without preconditions (yes, he did say it, no matter how he tries to deny it now), but Iran isn’t granting Obama the same courtesy: Iran’s Vice President Sets Two Preconditions for Talks with US.
They’re very simple conditions, really. Just remove all US forces from the Middle East, and abandon Israel to the wolves.
TEHRAN (FNA)- Vice President for Media Affairs Mehdi Kalhor said on Saturday that Iran has set two preconditions for holding talks with the United States of America.
In an exclusive interview with the Islamic Republic News Agency, he said as long as U.S. forces have not left the Middle East region and continues its support for the Zionist regime, talks between Iran and U.S. is off the agenda.
It is the Americans who are in dire need of reestablishing ties with Iran, he underlined.
Iran is not obliged to reestablish ties with the U.S., he said. “If they take our advice, grounds for such talks would be well prepared,” he said
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Posted by: llauna | Oct 12, 2008 5:18:25 PM
In an interview published in 1995, Ayers characterized his political beliefs at that time and in the 1960s and 1970s: "I am a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist ... [Laughs] Maybe I'm the last communist who is willing to admit it. [Laughs] We have always been small 'c' communists in the sense that we were never in the [Communist] party and never Stalinists. The ethics of Communism still appeal to me. I don't like Lenin as much as the early Marx. I also like Henry David Thoreau, Mother Jones and Jane Addams [...]"[27]In 1970 Ayers was called "a national leader"[28] of the Weatherman organization and "one of the chief theoreticians of the Weathermen".[29] The Weathermen were initially part of the Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) within the SDS, splitting from the RYM's Maoists by claiming there was no time to build a vanguard party and that revolutionary war against the United States government and the capitalist system should begin immediately. Their founding document called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[30] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."[31] In June 1974, the Weather Underground released a 151-page volume titled Prairie Fire, which stated: "We are a guerrilla organization [...] We are communist women and men underground in the United States [...]"[32] The Weatherman leadership, including Bill Ayers, pushed for a radical reformulation of sexual relations under the slogan "Smash Monogamy".[33
Most like to talk about Ayers terrorism, but there is actually much more---such has his views on early childhood education. So many violent thugs surround Obama---so so so many.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
Have I been deleted again?
Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 5:11:21 PM
Niun, I was wondering why there was no tape of this rally where that was supposedly said. It is just obama and his flunkies trying to distract from the real facts coming out about Obama.
Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 5:08:38 PM
You know something, Senator Obama’s behavior makes me so suspicious.
Senator Obama’s behavior has made it so outstanding that it is glowing in
the dark, waiting for everyone to see the light of his questionable past. I
say questionable because why has he spent so much time, money and
emotional stress involving whole bunch of people covering any trail, whether
it is the colleges he attended, associates and I can’t believe even his THESIS and ACORN ties.
Can you believe that? Senator Obama, why are you afraid of showing us
your true self? Why is the DNC and your ADVISORS spending day and night
covering your tracks? You say the McCain campaign is smearing you. Have you
forgotten you are running for POTUS, the most important job? I want to
know and the people of the U. S. have every right to know who they are
electing. You never owned a business.
Wouldn’t you do a thorough screening of that person’s background, past
associates, criminal records, college, etc? Wouldn’t you want to be able to
sleep peacefully anytime, knowing that you can trust that individual with
your precious possessions, when you’re overseas on business or wherever.
Senator Obama, we are trying to do just that. We want to know about you,
your associates and if they are shady characters, especially if it shows a
behavioral pattern, we have the right to know why. You expect us to trust
you on your WORDS, JUST WORDS. We the American people expect more
than WORDS, JUST WORDS and we will keep on googling and searching
about you if you can’t be honest and forthright with us. Senator Obama
we are not sheep. Please come forward. Stanley Kurtz was trying to get
the records opened concerning the Annenberg Challenge. Don’t you think
it becomes more questionable when the records can’t be accessed? You
are causing all of the suspicions Senator Obama, don’t you get it, not
Senator McCain or Governor Palin. Your denying access to everything
that supposed to be accessible is making the problem fester and it’s not
going away. Just come forward, be honest with the American people and
let the chips fall where they may. Can you honestly say you have been
forthcoming with the American people
and they can truly trust me to be in charge of
their precious possessions and I want only the best and good of all things
for the American people? I pray you can come forward and be honest. Do
something right and good. You owe it
to the American people Obama.
Posted by: llauna | Oct 12, 2008 5:07:29 PM
I wonder if Obama is willing to admit he is "c" communist yet? All the signs point to it.
Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 5:04:37 PM
I wonder if Obama is willing to admit he is "c" communist yet? All the signs point to it.
Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 5:04:34 PM
Obama has a pattern of communism and croonism...as the election nears, perhaps the media will finally start telling the truth of the Obama slime. Voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. People think, wake up.
Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 4:59:56 PM
For your information the media made it up saying that people said kill him this is completely false people actually called the radio and said that never happened . A COUPLE PEOPLE NOT ONLY ONE said that never happened. This is all fabricated.
Posted by: Niun | Oct 12, 2008 4:45:14 PM
Yes Anna, let's discuss Obama qualifications.....
2. Barack Obama, civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland; (an attorney---I know lots of them) lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School (a guest lecturer----whoopie do) member of the board of directors of the Joyce Foundation and the Woods Fund of Chicago (where Ayers was also serving); winner, Crain's Chicago Business 40 Under 40 award (what business did Obama run??????), 1993; former president of the Harvard Law Review (1990–1991) (He didn't deserve the position and Obama has threatened to sue the school if they release his records---Obama was "special" his grades weren't as good as the others so special considerations were made for him especially with a certain Saudi prince......throwing his weight behind Obama); former executive director of the Developing Communities Project (June 1985–May 1988)(You mean more ACORN ties?)
Obama's qualifications are all baaaad.
Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 4:30:45 PM
George: I've enjoyed the conversation as well. Although my views lean conservative, I intentionally do not read or listen to Fox or Hannity or the rest. I like to hear what the other side is saying. It make me think harder. If you just listen to the side that agrees with you, you learn nothing. Thanks to you as well.
Posted by: msa123 | Oct 12, 2008 4:16:52 PM
I failed to mention in my earlier blog that I was serving in the military in France when I cast my 1st presidential vote (1960), and that 2 years before (1958), I was serving on a base near Incirlik, Turkey, as part of a support group for US Forces in what was then called the "Lebanon Crisis" during the Eisenhower administration. It seems the "middle east crisis" has so far taken 50 of those 100 years mentioned in this campaign and I challenge anyone out there to put a figure on the expense of the several operations conducted in that area under several administrations since,let alone our casualties. It will likely not be settled in my lifetime as it has not been settled in the last 2000 years. Something to do with religious preference as I understand it.
Posted by: T E Burns | Oct 12, 2008 4:13:29 PM
Anna: Gosh, thank you for so much information. Unfortunately for Obama, being on the education board with him was not his only tie to the guy. That's what Obama SAYS, but it is not the truth - it is not the facts. You might want to do a little more digging instead of listening to Obama's constant denials. According to him, he hasn't associated with anyone he's been asked about. And yet he HAS! Everyone knows he has. But he continues to deny. Of course, if he admitted it, he would lose his political career of sky-rocketing to a possible presidency, so we all understand why he's denying everything now.
Posted by: msa123 | Oct 12, 2008 4:11:06 PM
Thanks msa123! I've enjoyed the conversation. I appreciate having my point of view challenged. I like to think that I'm part of the learning society---I hope I am anyway. What bothers me most about some of the posts is the lack of civility. Your posts were civil even though you didn't agree with me---that's why I continued on. Thanks again. I'm signing off.
Posted by: George | Oct 12, 2008 4:10:20 PM
Anyway, that deserves a listen for response George, but I gotta go.
No matter.
I'll never vote Dem or lib or socialist so any argument for Obama is wasted on me.
Posted by: ZAK!!! | Oct 12, 2008 4:08:26 PM
Why the blackout on Obama’s years at Columbia ?
The Ayers - Said - Mansour connection to Obama
Ayers was apparently a good friend of Edward Said, who was also a professor at Columbia (he died in Sept. 2003), whom Obama also knew there and continued to associate with afterward. There’s a picture circulating of Obama and Said in 1998, at a dinner of Arab Americans in Chicago where Said was the keynote speaker. Said served on the Palestine Nat’l Council and and wrote a forward for Ayers’ book “Fugitive Days”.
Said was a friend of Khalid al Mansour - who btw also gave lectures at Columbia - and it is Mansour who supposedly helped Obama get into Harvard. (the one thing we know for a fact, he didn’t make in on his grades, because he didn't graduate Columbia with Honors)
Who knows what student group(s) Obama was associated with at Columbia, but what I will venture to say is this: Every one of these people is/was extremely pro-palestinian and that's NOT something that Obama's people want advertised in cities and states with a large Jewish voting block, AND one more thing....you aren't supported and trusted by people like this, unless you're one of them and have proven it.
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Posted by: llauna | Oct 12, 2008 4:06:40 PM
PEOPLE need to stop falling for John McCain, and Sarah plain's garbage smear campaign:
The Annenberg Challenge where Obama served on board was founded by President Nixon's Ambassador to the UK, a man who was also a close friend of President Reagan, and named: Walter Annenberg.
**(The Board of Directors was handpicked by Adele Smith Simmons, president of the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, who was asked by Gregorian to "work with foundation leadership to create a board that would be diverse, including people from the community, business interests and civic leaders, and include no more than nine people.
At a meeting with Simmons and Patricia Albjerg Graham, Deborah Leff suggested that Barack Obama would make a good board chairman. After meeting and being impressed by Obama, Graham told Obama that she wanted him to be chairman of the Board of Directors. Obama said that he would agree to serve as chairman if Graham would be vice chairman, to which Graham agreed. (from: Wikiedia)
** The FOUNDING Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge as announced in 1995 are below:
THESE QUALITY EDUCATED PEOPLE WERE THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON THIS FOUNDATION --- LOOK AT THEIR EDUACTIONAL BACKGROUND, LOOK AT THEIR CREDENTIALS, ONE EVEN WORKED IN THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION.
SO PEOPLE STOP BUYING INTO THE SMEARS THE McCAIN CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN FEEDNG YOU, AND HAS BEEN PUTTING OUT THERE.
THIS WAS A GOOD ORGANIZATION FOUNDED BY A REPUBLICAN, AND WHOSE BOARD MEMBERS WERE MADE UP OF QUALITY EDUACTED PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO INPROVE THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM IN ILLINOIS.
** Here are the list of the FOUNDING Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge as announced in 1995 are below:
1. Patricia Albjerg Graham
2. Barack Obama, civil rights attorney at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland; lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School; member of the board of directors of the Joyce Foundation and the Woods Fund of Chicago; winner, Crain's Chicago Business 40 Under 40 award, 1993; former president of the Harvard Law Review (1990–1991); former executive director of the Developing Communities Project (June 1985–May 1988)
3.Stanley O. Ikenberry, president of the University of Illinois (1979–1995); member of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago (1983–1995); former professor of education (1965–1971) and senior vice president (1971–1979) of Pennsylvania State University
4. Arnold R. Weber, president of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago (1995–1999); member of the board of directors of the Arie and Ida Crown Memorial and the Tribune Company; former president of Northwestern University (1985–1994) and the University of Colorado (1980–1985); professor of labor economics and friend and colleague of George P. Shultz at MIT, the University of Chicago, and in the Nixon administration
5. Ray Romero, vice president and general counsel of Ameritech; Chicago School Finance Authority board member (appointed in 1992 by Governor Jim Edgar); candidate in the 1996 Democratic primary for the 5th Congressional District of Illinois; winner, Crain's Chicago Business 40 Under 40 award, 1991; former Illinois Commerce Commission commissioner (appointed in 1985 by Governor Jim Thompson); former civil rights attorney as Midwest regional director of MALDEF where he was lead counsel for Hispanic plaintiffs in the 1985 Chicago ward remap
6. Wanda White, executive director of the Community Workshop on Economic Development; former policy director of the Women's Self-Employment Project; former deputy commissioner of economic development under Chicago Mayors Washington, Sawyer and Daley
7. Susan Crown, president of the Arie and Ida Crown Memorial; vice president of Henry Crown & Company; daughter of Lester Crown
8. Handy Lindsey, Jr., executive director (1988–1997) then president (1997–2003) of the Field Foundation of Illinois; former associate director of the Chicago Community Trust (1986–1988)
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The final Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge in 2001 were:
1.Patricia Albjerg Graham
2.Barack Obama
3.Edward Bottum, managing director of Chase Franklin Corp.; former president and vice chairman of Continental Illinois Bank
4.Connie Evans, founder and president of the Women's Self-Employment Project
5.Susan Blankenbaker Noyes, former labor attorney at Sidley & Austin; daughter of Republican former Indiana state senator Virginia Murphy Blankenbaker; goddaughter of Patricia Albjerg Graham
6.Scott C. Smith, president, CEO and publisher of the Chicago Tribune; former president, CEO and publisher of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel of Fort Lauderdale; former chairman of the South Florida Annenberg Challenge
7.Nancy Searle, consultant to the
Searle Funds at the Chicago Community Trust
8. Victoria Chou, dean of the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago
9.John W. McCarter, Jr., president and CEO of the Field Museum
10.Jim Reynolds, Jr., co-founder, chairman and CEO of Loop Capital Services
THESE QUALITY EDUCATED PEOPLE WERE THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON THIS FOUNDATION --- LOOK AT THEIR EDUACTIONAL BACKGROUND, LOOK AT THEIR CREDENTIALS, AND STOP BUYING INTO THE SMEARS THE McCAIN CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN FEEDNG YOU, AND HAS BEEN PUTTING OUT THERE.
THIS WAS A GOOD ORGANIZATION FOUNDED BY A REPUBLICAN, AND WHOSE BOARD MEMBERS WERE MADE UP OF QUALITY EDUACTED PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO INPROVE THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM IN ILLINOIS.
Posted by: Anna | Oct 12, 2008 4:05:24 PM
p.s. Obama's arrogance makes me want to puke. If McCain says "my friend" one more time, I WILL puke. Biden's nowhere to be found, guess they're keeping him quiet. And Palin is just out of her league. And if I hear one more time that Ayers is "just a lil' ol' professor now" - albeit one that is not remorseful whatsoever for his past - I will puke again. What a quandary we are in.
Posted by: msa123 | Oct 12, 2008 4:04:33 PM
George, I'll concede my knowledge of Liddy is fuzzy if you'll concede that "ex-terrorist"... is looney. The guy says to this day "I wish we did more". HOW he can be a "respected" or otherwise teacher is beyond me unless someone as terrifyingly forgiving as you was doing the hiring.
Did you read about HIM? He tried to firebomb a family home! WHO on God's green earth "respects" him???
I'll tell you who. Others like him.
Posted by: ZAK!!! | Oct 12, 2008 4:03:26 PM
I think the right is frustrated and upset because the media has boosted Obama up onto a pedestal when he doesnt deserve a pedestal. I think the left is frustrated because the candidate is part of a failed administration, even if he was not in power, it was his party. Now we have a man associated with terrorists and no experience, and another man who is much older and also had his share of connections. The economy is a mess, and people are scared. They want to be able to trust somebody. But there's no one. So we pick 'our guy' and tear down the other one down to make our choice appear "just" or rational. We don't want to admit we are up a creek without the paddle.
Posted by: msa123 | Oct 12, 2008 3:59:30 PM
ZAK: I read the whole thing and am aware of what Jimmy Carter did. I know G Gord Liddy did much to help solve Watergate. The only reason the orginial sentence was not longer was the fact that not all the planned activities were not carried out. Saying Obama "pals around with terrorists" because he served on a board with someone who is now a respected professor of education (ex-terrorist) is as silly as saying McCain hangs out with criminals because he was on Liddy's show and gave him a commendation. Terrorism takes many different forms---the bully in the school is a terrorist---the burglar is a terrorist---terror means fear---anyone who creates an atmosphere of fear is a terrorist.
Posted by: George | Oct 12, 2008 3:52:41 PM
true american, i suppose msnbc, abc, and nbc are the fair stations since they promote obama. get real. fox is better than any of the others.
Posted by: dj jones | Oct 12, 2008 3:52:28 PM
Governor Palin is spewing hate. Hatred
of lies from Obama's well trained
socialist mouth.
Just how in bed is Obama with the deeply corrupt and seditious ACORN? So deep he has taken to repeatedly bold faced lying about just how involved he is with them.
Obama's campaign paid ACORN $800,000 (more here)
Check this out, over at Political Evidence: Obama Endorsed Acorn Politician in 1999
Posted by: llauna | Oct 12, 2008 3:51:03 PM