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McCain to Hit Obama on Biden's Prediction Obama Will be Tested by International Crisis
October 20, 2008 1:14 PM
Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected president, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in office, a comment Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., intends to highlight Monday, aides said, in order to highlight concerns some voters have had about Obama's preparedness to be commander-in-chief.
"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee said at a Seattle fundraiser Sunday, "it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."
"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said, including the Middle East and Russia as possibilities, "and he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."
Biden also mentioned the current economic crisis. "Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy."
The garrulous Biden said that he's "forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it. This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."
It's unclear if an attack on Obama for unpreparedness in these closing days will be as effective as it might have been in the past. In the wake of yesterday's endorsement of Obama by Gen. Colin Powell (Ret.) former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said, "what that just did in one soundbite -- and I assume that soundbite will end up in an ad -- is it eliminated the experience argument."
-- Jake Tapper and Matthew Jaffe
UPDATE: Here are the remarks, as prepared and provided by the McCain campaign, which the Republican nominee will say this afternoon in Belton, Missouri:
"The next President won’t have time to get used to the office. We face many challenges here at home, and many enemies abroad in this dangerous world. Just last night, Senator Biden guaranteed that if Senator Obama is elected, we will have an international crisis to test America’s new President. We don’t want a President who invites testing from the world at a time when our economy is in crisis and Americans are already fighting in two wars.
"What is more troubling is that Senator Biden told their campaign donors that when that crisis hits, they would have to stand with them because it wouldn't be apparent Senator Obama would have the right response.
"Forget apparent. Senator Obama won’t have the right response, and we know that because we’ve seen the wrong response from him over and over during this campaign. He opposed the surge strategy that is bringing us victory in Iraq and will bring us victory in Afghanistan. He said he would sit down unconditionally with the world's worst dictators. When Russia invaded Georgia, Sen. Obama said the invaded country should show restraint.
"We cannot spend the next four years as we have spent much of the last eight: hoping for our luck to change at home and abroad. We have to act. We need a new direction, and we have to fight for it."
You can hear Biden's comments HERE.
Biden's spokesman, David Wade, says, “Sen. Biden was making it clear that history has shown Presidents face challenges starting on day one, and with our nation fighting two wars and 21st century threats abroad, we know that we need steady leadership in tumultuous times, not the erratic lurching and stubborn ideology of John McCain.”
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Wow...what a cesspool this site is and most of the comments on it. I spied a lie when googling another item on Mr. Biden, and lo, stumble on several lies, half-truths, and slander. Nice cheap jabs and name-calling, no appropriate facts. wow...classy, classy posts. No one will read my words, but I had to respond somehow. I like: "cesspool." Happy Holidays
Posted by: NB Stewart | Dec 19, 2008 4:31:23 PM
I'm surprised that people talk about this strategically, rather than looking at the root. Is McCain implying that because he's in power, there will be no crises? That is obviously ridiculous.
Is he implying that he will handle the crisis better? Well, let's look at how he chose his vice-president. And if it comes down to dealing with Putin, Ahmadinejad or even Sarkozy, which would you prefer to have on your team: Sarah Palin or Colin Powell?
Obama and McCain would both be tested. Many people would feel safer with a level-headed younger man.
Posted by: Outsider | Nov 4, 2008 10:35:11 AM
Hi Diane,
I actually meant to write the first paragraph to "Donna" Sorry, for the typo. The rest of my post was just meant for the general people who post here.
I also agree with your last statement. I don't think this will be the greatest country on earth anymore if he wins.
The biggest hope I have, is that there are lots of people who just don't want to admit they are voting McCain. I also hope those undecideds think twice on November 4 before they punch that ballot.
Did anyone thing about this:Even if Obama is saying the truth about taxing people only over 250k (which even economists don't believe it), and it puts them in a higher tax bracket, here is what they will do: Lay people off, and even move some of their money off shore. I mean, they will do whatever they have to do to bring their income down below to be in a lower bracket.
So, no matter how you slice it, Obama's plan is worse in the short AND long run. I heard someone say that companies will get fined by him if they move jobs over seas. Well, what if they just lay people off, are they going to get fined, too? There won't be enough jobs PERIOD under Obama.
Posted by: Maria | Oct 22, 2008 1:32:02 PM
Maria, you meant to address Angellight, not me. I agree with most of you comments, however, I believe that the majority of Democrats in Washington may believe that Barack Obama will be easy to manipulate, but I believe that he has his own personal agenda with his America hating associations to overthrow our government.
Posted by: Diana in California | Oct 21, 2008 9:37:17 PM
Seems to me, Biden did a great job of "painting Obama as a risky choice" all my his lonesome.....
Hurray for freedom of speech!!
Posted by: Maria | Oct 21, 2008 8:04:31 PM
Joe Biden does speak his mind. Ordinarily this would be an admirable trait. But these are not ordinary times. Your opponent is down...there is no need to throw him a lifeline. McCain will of course seize upon Joe's words to paint Obama as a risky choice.
I think that for the next couple of weeks, every word Joe plans to speak should be scripted and cleared in advance by Obama and campaign staff. No off the cuff remarks, no musings and ruminations, no improvised bon mots. Either that or he should be sent on a long vacation to Vanuatu with no microphones in sight. With the end of the game minutes away we cannot afford to fumble on the goal line.
Posted by: RasPutin | Oct 21, 2008 5:51:17 PM
Mr Robert Singleton writes in a comment of this about how McCain is a dog that tears up the house in pursuit of a tiny mouse and suggests that one mouse is the only danger presented. Mr Singleton, when have you ever seen just ONE mouse? I present the same arguement with a different view. The faithful old dog (president) has just presented a problem to is owner (country) and, depending on the owner's response to it, prevented infestation or disease.
Posted by: RLG | Oct 21, 2008 4:18:32 PM
I also wanted to add why I think Pelosi and Reed want Obama so badly.
It's because he is so wet behind the ears, they will be able to pass ANYTHING they want. For those of you who think this country is bad NOW? Just wait if Obama gets the Oval Office.
You are really going to see bad then. They only good thing about Obama winning the White House would be that those of us who were smart enough to vote for McCain will be able to say, "Told you so. You got what you wished for."
Posted by: Maria | Oct 21, 2008 4:17:55 PM
Diana:
Just how do you know that the world leaders are waiting for Obama because he is fair? Are you kidding???
They are laughing behind our backs. CAn't wait to get this wet behind the ears "chosen one" because they will be able to sit back, develop their weapons of mass destruction, plan their next attack, etc., etc. Don't you realize why they "like" him? They don't want McCain because they know he is bad news for them!! He will not tolerate them and just sit back and let them destroy us.
Posted by: Maria | Oct 21, 2008 4:14:44 PM
Think about this, people.
Let's say you were an enemy of some country, let's call it Oz for the sake of discussion. Suddenly, through fraud, violence, cowardice, and stupidity, the Ozians "elected" as president your ally, President Wizard.
President Wizard agrees with you on everything -- Ozian surrender to you, your political philosophy, your propensity to accept Ozian gifts and President Wizard's inclination to transfer them from Ozian taxpayers, and just about everything else.
Would you attack Oz under these circumstances, or do anything else to discomfit President Wizard??
Posted by: RationalGeezer | Oct 21, 2008 12:48:50 PM
McCain's reaction to this issue and the Bill Ayers flap reminds me of a small yappy dog that finds a mouse in the house, barks hysterically, runs around the house knocking over furniture, and finally brings you the mouse, and looks at you as is to say: "See what I saved you from?"
Posted by: Robert Singleton | Oct 21, 2008 10:54:34 AM
Angellight, stop humming Kumbaya and get serious for a moment. You wrote, "Biden is wrong on this issue. Leaders around the World are waiting for Barack Obama as they know him to be a fair and just man." Are you kidding me? People around the world may be enamoured of their perception of the glamourous Chosen One. The leaders? Nope. You figure Vladmir Putin and the Chinese leadership and the mullahs in Iran and whoever is running North Korea are thinking in terms of 'a fair and just man"? They are going to forget their conflicts with America because they think Obama is a nice man? Good gravy, how dangerously naive.
Then you say, "Also the economic crisis we face is a world crisis and countries around the world will not be thinking about fighting but on how to turn the economy around!" Yeah, the Russians and the Chinese would never use an economic crisis to gain an advantage. Right.
Then you say: "Biden belongs to the Old age and the cold-war mentality. Today's leaders are thinking more about unity, inclusiveness and working together to face the world's problems like climate change and engery." Hey, he's your guy. So what leaders of today do you have in mind? There are some who think in those terms, but they are already there and have been doing that sort of thing all along. There are plenty others who are not all about unity and inclusivness and those are the ones who concern me, and John McCain, and should concern you. Let me guess-- you are one of those who think "bush is evil and ignored the world"-- which isn't true either. Go to Africa or eastern Europe and ask people about how Bush has worked with local leaders to change their lives in a positive way, such as his funding of AIDS projects.
In a sort of nonsequitur, you continue:
"The Russian mission to the UN in New York says it has turned down a request from John McCain to help fund his presidential campaign."
I can only imagine that they got some sort of computer-generated mailing by mistake. McCain did not ask them to fund his campaign, which would of course be massively illegal. (Not that the Obama camp has been terribly careful about foreign contributions, but i digress) And what is your point, anyhow? That McCain works with evil Russians-- I thought we were all one big happy world, in your view? You confuse me.
Posted by: moderate | Oct 21, 2008 8:13:18 AM
On reflection, I think that Biden's unforced error was precipitated by his desperate need to assert his relevance to the ticket. Biden has always had a healthy ego-- while he may only be the 4th most liberal member of the Senate, I would rank him 2nd or 3rd in self-importance, behind the mighty Joe Kerry and perhaps the top of his ticket. He must chafe at having to parade around as "regular Joe, the scrapper from Scranton who commutes via Amtrak." He wanted to remind folks that he is not just a regular guy; after all, look how the media treats the regular folk on the other side of the campaign. Gov. Palin and Joe the Plumber are treated as drooling idiots, and he does not want to be lumped in that category.
So he took his opportunity to remind people that he is supposedly a senior stateman with gravitas and experience to burn. In your mind, Joe, in your mind. He loves to brag about his IQ. Possessing an impressive number myself, I've never been that impressed. After all, after years in academia, I have encountered some truly brilliant minds whom I would not trust to run a car pool, let along the country.
Joe could not resist the chance to remind people that Obama chose him for a reason and that in an international crisis, he is the one with years of experience (yeah, experience in the Senate- so what?) who will be needed to advise the young charismatic Obama. Puh-leeze. Yes, Obama is young and inexperienced. No, that is not something that recommends him to me as president. Having the blowhard Biden at his side does not help matters.
Posted by: moderate | Oct 21, 2008 8:02:48 AM
Biden is wrong on this issue. Leaders around the World are waiting for Barack Obama as they know him to be a fair and just man. Also the economic crisis we face is a world crisis and countries around the world will not be thinking about fighting but on how to turn the economy around! Biden belongs to the Old age and the cold-war mentality. Today's leaders are thinking more about unity, inclusiveness and working together to face the world's problems like climate change and engery.
The Russian mission to the UN in New York says it has turned down a request from John McCain to help fund his presidential campaign.
Ambassador to the UN Vitaly Churkin and others received standard mail-outs asking them to help "stop the Democrats from seizing control of Washington".
Posted by: Angellight | Oct 21, 2008 7:52:11 AM
As I said in my disappearing post, Biden's statement troubles me on a number of levels, for a number of reasons. What I keep coming back to is that this was not just "good old Joe" being "good old Joe." This was revelatory. He might claim that there are several places where the crisis could come from, but he clearly had something specific in mind. Why do I say that? Because he made a point of saying that they would need our support because when they respond to the crisis, it will not be immediately apparent that they are doing the right thing. He has a specific scenario with a specific response in mind, clearly. So what in the world is he talking about? And did he get this idea from the security briefings he has been getting lately?
Oh, and you'll notice that after that goofiness, BIden released the obligatory statement clarifying his remarks, but did not talk to the press and yesterday left the campaign trail for a day. Hmmm. I thought it was supposed to be Palin who didn't do press-- but she's talking to the press every day now, you will notice, which is more than you can say about Biden OR Obama. And this is not the Senate-- Biden is not going to have the luxury of revising and extending his remarks whenever he says something ridiculous moving forward.
Posted by: moderate | Oct 21, 2008 7:29:54 AM
Honest evaluation and comments by Joe. Zero spin. The real deal. I'm delighted to be talked to like an adult. Keep being honest, Sen. Biden. It helps the country. And pulls us together. (Or, judging by some of the comments on this blog...it pulls many of us together!)
Wishing everyone the very best...
Posted by: Barbyrah | Oct 21, 2008 7:23:35 AM
The news alert of Barack Obama going to Hawaii to visit his ailing grandmother is to divert attention to get away from Biden's comments, make people feel sorry for him and vote for him. Obama did not have to announce suspending his campaign when he's only going to be away for two days. If he cares so much about his grandmother why wait until Thursday to depart to Hawaii instead of leaving immediately? Obama did not even take the time to attend his mother's funeral.
Posted by: Diana in California | Oct 21, 2008 1:54:36 AM
I said it before that Joe Biden is an alcoholic and an ignorant gaffe machine. Biden must have had a few extra drinks at that fundraiser, it was not a gaffe. Children and drunks always speak the truth. Remember Joe Biden stood by his remarks about Barack Obama being inexperienced and unfit to be POTUS, no time for on the job training.
Posted by: Diana in California | Oct 20, 2008 11:39:43 PM
Open mouth... insert foot. Biden is an idiot but that's ok, because he speaks the TRUTH.
If you vote for Obama, we will definitely experience a terrorist attack in the U.S. within 6 mo. time. The scary part is that Biden is putting a guarantee on this. This is not acceptable to me. We do not have time to afford Obama a learning curve.
We need an experienced foreign policy man to take over the White House. I think it is time Americans come together and VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN.
Posted by: ml | Oct 20, 2008 11:26:25 PM
Do you Obama supporters really believe Michelle Obama shops for her clothes at Target?
Posted by: Diana in California | Oct 20, 2008 11:25:55 PM
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