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Jane Sixpack, sorry but you are absolutely wrong. The free market works just fine when left alone. It was government interference by forcing the banks and mortgage companies to lower their lending practices and making extremely risky loans as well as pushing the flexible subprime mortgage rates that caused this crisis. When the housing market tried to correct itself the risky loans broke the banks. The housing market would be well on its way out of the downturn had it not been for the tightening up of capital. There are plenty of buyers wanting to buy homes, but many can't because loans are not available.

Free Market Fundamentalism, Like Communism, is a false ideology. The recent financial crisis has established the dangers of free market fundamentalism of the sort worshipped by McCain and his friends. To McCain's credit, he has realized that in order to avoid a crisis that would make the Great Depression look like a walk in tha park, the Government needs to rescue the homeowners and save the market from collapsing. Although I have many problems with McCane, this is one thing he is right about (and sure enough, the free market fundamentalists are up in arms!)

Why is McCain talking about giving people what basically amounts to mortgage welfare. People need to learn to live within their means. I always thought it was Democrats who were in favor of welfare. This is insane why don't we just give people money to pay off their credit cards to and how about car loans. The government should also just pay off every student loan while they are at it. And the idea that anyone is going to raise your income taxes is just ludacris there is no law that says that any individual has to pay federal income taxes. I am happy to pay my taxes but if they are being used to pay for someones mortgage I will stop paying faderal income taxes and there is nothing that John McCain or Barack Obama can do about it. Taxes should be used to help people who don't have the means to help themselves. I'm not talking about welfare I'm talking about people with physical or mental disabilities that are unable to work. Not crack addicts and people that are just plain lazy. My taxes should be used to help veterans and children get medical care. To pay our military a decent wage to protect our soldiers when they are in a hostile region (which by the way both candidates voted against). To fix roads and bridges, what happened with the bridge in minnesota should never happen again. So please McCain don't roll out another welfare program when you come out with your next plan. If someone bought a house that they cannot afford then they should either find a way to make their payments of the bank should forclose. This is the only way that people will learn. There is an old saying that "we learn by our mistakes" and that is what these people must do. And I know someone is going to say but some of these people lost their jobs. That is not my fault so I should not have to pay for it. When you make a purchase on credit you have to think what happens if I lose my job. Like I said if our government passes any kind of mortgage welfare bill I will stop paying federal income taxes and urge many of you to do the same. There is no law that says any individual has to pay federal income taxes.

"and in the U.S. Senate – where he is identified as the most liberal Senator "

I love right wingers repeat this.

Could you tell me on what basis is Obama the most liberal Senator?

(I know the answer, I want to see if the lemmings do as well)

Today McCain repeatedly claimed he had a plan for many of the problems facing this country.

However he decided not to share any details beyond stating "I have a plan"

indy - your quote: "Charles Krauthammer has not been objective in his writings. He consistently takes hardcore conservative positions on everything and therefore has an agenda just like William Kristol."

That's just not true. i.e. this from wiki:

Krauthammer is generally considered a conservative.However, on domestic issues, Krauthammer is a supporter of legalized abortion;an opponent of the death penalty; an intelligent design critic and an advocate for the scientific consensus on evolution, calling the religion-science controversy a "false conflict; a supporter of embryonic stem cell research (involving embryos discarded by fertility clinics) and a longtime advocate of radically higher energy taxes to induce conservation.Meg Greenfield, editorial page editor for The Washington Post who edited Krauthammer's columns for 15 years, called his weekly column "independent and hard to peg politically. It's a very tough column. There's no 'trendy' in it."

I'd hardly call him hard core conservative. You just think that if one questions Obama they're hard core conservative, racist, whatever. It's just people THINKING vs. taking a man at his word. Actions and words are two very different things. Didn't your mother ever teach you that??

"Obama is farther to the left than any other member of his party, including Teddy Kennedy."
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Actually, even Hillary Clinton is "farther to the left" than Obama, which shows what a crock of corporate bs the formerly-Democratic Party has become.

Obama is farther to the left than any other member of his party, including Teddy Kennedy. BUT, Obama has an answer for everybody, and a nice smile. People thinks it's progressive and cultural to vote for the 'change' he represents. Since when did people in this country want a socialized country?? Since Obama said it will put more money in people's pockets? Since when has "spreading the wealth around" i.e. welfare worked in the past? Is that why so many still live in projects that should have been condemned years ago? Oh, but Obama's plan will WORK, right? Prove that it will. Show a time in history when socialism worked. Any country will do. I agree there is no perfect world or perfect solution... capitalism with no regulation whatsoever has proven it doesn't work. But the answer is not pure socialism... and everyone knows... that is just what Obama's agenda is.

I meant to say...Charles Krauthammer has NEVER been objective in his writings.

Charles Krauthammer is a syndicated columnist based in Washington.

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Charles Krauthammer has been objective in his writings. He consistently takes hardcore conservative positions on everything and therefore has an agenda just like William Kristol.

Lowering capital gains tax?

1. Why would that help the middle class?

2. Who is making a profit in the stock market right now? (you don't pay capital gains for losses obviously)

No one in the media has even thought to ask Obama how he's going to give a tax break to the 40% of Americans who don't pay taxes now.

It's called WELFARE.

It's called ANOTHER ENTITLEMENT.

If enacted it will grow like a cancer until it destroys the country.

We are soon to reach a point at which those who produce are completely at the mercy of those who do not produce- they will outnumber and outvote us soon.

We will be the new slaves.

And bless his heart, Barack could care less.

"Obama has passed the Ayers/Rezko test. He's their front man because he knows how to work the crowd."
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Nooo, The CHANGEling's the front man for the corporados and the mob because they can use his birthday suit -- and those "racism" charges -- to 1. deflect ordinary treatment from the guilty white liberals of the corporate media, and 2. to keep "black" votes in an incurious bloc.

Obama has passed the Ayers/Rezko test. He's their front man because he knows how to work the crowd. And they made a very wise choice. All you have to do is to connect the dots. Remember those games from childhood? Did Obama grow up in Chicago? No. Why Chicago? Once there, why so many ties to radicals? So many. Too many. Why ACORN? Why Rev. Wright? Please show me what he has done for America outside of his socialist style agenda.

Contrast this incoherent thrashing about with the steady, if dull, focus of the Obama campaign, and you'll have your best evidence of the sort of governance you'd likely see in a McCain/Palin vs. an Obama/Biden administration.

A review of Obama’s voting record in Illinois and in the U.S. Senate – where he is identified as the most liberal Senator - is evidence of his continuing support of the socialist goals he trained his ACORN followers to pursue.

The “change” he so desperately seeks is to change America from a nation that thrives on capitalism, free-markets, private property, and individual freedom, to a socialist nation in which government sets wages, provides housing, manages markets, and dictates to every individual what may, and may not, be done.

"The old phrase, "a man of high ideals but no principles," is one that applies all too painfully to Barack Obama today. His words expressing lofty ideals may appeal to the gullible but his long history of having no principles makes him a danger of the first magnitude in the White House. "
~Thomas Sowell

Belle Starr,

I wonder if you enjoy being snippy all the time. Even I as much as I don't like what McCain and Palin, wouldn't enjoy spending all my time making snarky remarks.

Mobs? Have you actually heard any of Obama and Biden's speeches? I listened to both candidates convention speeches, their stump speeches to make a comparison.

What mob? Obama and Biden actually appear relaxed backstage and real, warm and friendly. They don't seem like people who pal around with terrorists. McCain and Palin? They're negative. Attacking, attacking, attacking.

MaverickReformMaverickMaverick.

Please let's look at THEIR records too.

Troopergate, Bridge to Nowhere, Earmarks of over a hundred dollars per Alaskan, voting against GI Bill, supporting deregulation, cheerleading Bush in Iraq.

WHAT MAVERICK?

The founder of the conservative Blog, RedState, could not bring himself to vote for McCain and wrote in Gov. Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana.

msa123,

What I'm trying to say, facts are, the Democratic base is much more enthusiastic about their candidates by almost twenty points in comparison to the Republican ticket- and that was after bringing in Palin. There's a serious problem if your base seems to like your VP nominee more than you too- conservatives had been pretty lukewarm towards McCain.

And enthusiasm matters. Some of the conservatives on Free Republic were grumbling about how McCain was embracing socialism ( his whole havethe govt buy up mortgages thing) and not truly representing them. Sure, Obama is much more liberal- but he's from the left-wing party. Some said they were going to stay at home or vote for a third party. In contrast, Obama-Biden supporters are very enthusiastic.

It was quite telling that over 26,000 Virginians in a red district waited over an hour in a thunderstorm to hear Obama and Biden speak in the rain, getting soaked along with the audience.

"If you're looking for mobs ... "
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Obama and Biden are "real"?? Hahaha. Real mobsters, maybe.

If you're looking for mobs, you'll get plenty if this soul-free duo is installed.

msa123- Tapper pulled the numbers from the same poll the week before when Gore got a post-debate bounce. His bounce did not last long.

October 9, 2000
Web posted at: 5:05 p.m. EDT (2105 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush maintains his 8 point lead over his Democratic rival, Vice President Al Gore, in Monday's CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll.

paige: I think he must have made it up. At least that's the claim of all Obama backers every time some facts appear that aren't necessarily in his favor. Or maybe it's a right wing conspiracy to smear Obama. Who knows.

greymatter: "It isn't all that great if you vote for McCain more becaue "the other guy's bad" rather then, "McCain has great policies."

The can be said, and is said, in reveerse using Obama's name. I find it interesting that each voter thinks those voting for the other party are doing the exact same thing. Sounds like a pretty desperate election, does it not? Everyone wants to think 'their guy' is better. Truth is, they both suck unless you're for socialism or more of the same but it's all we've got to work with.

Msa- I get the point, but where did Tapper get his information?

geevill,

Kerry was at 228 electoral votes this week while Bush had enough to win the eleciton in 2004.

The trend is that Obama has consistently built up a strong electoral vote count.

October 9, 2000
Web posted at: 5:05 p.m. EDT (2105 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush maintains his 8 point lead over his Democratic rival, Vice President Al Gore, in Monday's CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll.

Paige: I think you missed the point.

msa123 - The tracking polls for Gore/Bush during THIS week in 2000 were:

Bush 48% - Gore 43%

James Danley,

Yes. The mortgage "crisis" is due to overextending credit to deadbeats with low down payment and ARMs to unqualifed (and as Barney Frank admitted) mostly black people. ACORN and other radical groups were funded by liberal backers such as The Woods Fund (Obama and Ayers).

Belle Starr,

If you're looking for mobs, look no further then McCain and Palin's recent rallies.

Obama and Biden have been the most inspiring ticket I have seen. They work well together, they actually seem to LIKE each other. McCain and Palin seem so stiff sometimes. I watched the video of the behind-the-scenes of the DNC at Denver. It was heartwarming, Obama and Biden were real.

It isn't all that great if you vote for McCain more becaue "the other guy's bad" rather then, "McCain has great policies."

You heard it right here, on ABC - just released story:

"....That's not what lots of smart folks in the Obama campaign think. They believe Obama's poll numbers are artificially high, McCain's are artificially low, this race will come down to two or three points, and anything could happen.

As Anne Kornblut and Jon Cohen in the Washington Post today remind us, "recent history suggests that mid-October leads are vulnerable...At this stage in 1992, Bill Clinton held a 14-point advantage over incumbent George H.W. Bush in Post-ABC polling, and it was as high as 19 points before the election, which he won by six points. In mid-October 1976, Jimmy Carter had leads as big as 13 points in Gallup polling; Carter defeated incumbent Gerald Ford by two points."

CNN on October 5, 2000 reported that the "CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll indicates that Vice President Al Gore may be opening a solid lead over Texas Gov. George W. Bush, after nearly two weeks of neck-and-neck competition. Today's figures -- 51 percent for Gore to 40 percent for Bush -- represents a significant margin for the vice president."

Obviously the numbers narrowed a little bit.

As will these as well."

The Republicans are using the same playbook with ACORN that they used in 1960 against JFK. The ACORN story provides them cover to their purging of thousands of legitimate voters of of the rolls. It's another distraction.

geevill, ACORN "reached agreements" with six of seven banks it "targeted" (excellent choice of word) by intimidation and extortion. And with the help of the Clinton Administration and Congressional legislation, forced the banks to lower their lending standards to avoid heavy fines and penalties.

I am all for the poor and low income families having their own home. But instead of forcing banks and mortgage companies to lower their lending standards and making these high risk loans (and as we now know, placing our financial system in chaos), organizations like ACORN should have convinced (intimidated and/or extorted) developers to donate 1% of their homes to poor and low income families.

"Why are you always so angry ?"
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"Angry" isn't the right word, but I don't find it enchanting that the Democratic Party sold its nomination to corporate authoritarians whose figurehead is a mob-friendly birthday suit.

HP Boston

Try to stick to one story please!

geevill,

Obama isn't on very good terms with Jackson.
WHAT crony?

Registering voters is a good thing ACORN has registered 1.3mil new voters 60% Democrat and 40% republican the RNC website even admits that !

This is a fake concern registering multiple times doesnt mean a thing other than wasting ACORN's money and the Elections office's time. They still only get one vote! Its a fake concern for political perpuse!

The BBC did a really good piece on the truth about ACORN saying that:

ACORN IS THE SMOKE SCREEN FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY... KNOWING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE RATHER THAN ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE BAD POLICIES AND IDEAS THEY INTEND TO BLAME IT ON ACORN...

SHOULD THE ELECTION BE CLOSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL TRY TO USE THE COURTS TO ELECT THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES INTO OFFICE...

THIS IS THE GAME PLAN FOX IS SETTING THE GROUND WORK!

Hmmm...is this yet another example of McCain's erractic, and confused leadership? Wait, I guess I can't say that out loud since Sen. McCain is older and I must be talking about his age and not his decisionmaking.

The wonderful words of Obama crony Jesse Jackson, Jr.

“Obviously it’s not right for a fake ‘Tony Romo’ to be registered in Las Vegas,” Jackson continued, referring to the professional football player whose name turned up on a Nevada voter registration list. “But remember the basic point — it’s not voter fraud unless someone shows up at the voting booth on Election Day and tries to pass himself off as ‘Tony Romo'.

"look at what you got for that first $600 bucks."
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Yeah: the conversion of the so-called economy to state capitalism.

The actual poor, of course, didn't even GET the "stimulus" ...

"Calm", or sedated? Watch his eyes. Whatever it is, it's not in the least reassuring.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 13, 2008 11:16:21 AM
----------------------SEDATED!!

Ah....geevil...desperate much?

hang on to your hat...because the Obama campaign broke records on fundraising last month and they are sinking most of their money into going on the attack regarding Republican voter suppression...

Sorry to disappoint you...but THAT kind of fraud is REAL...and soon to be publicized.

Ah yes, Absolutely lets get to the truth on ACORN:

The facts about ACORN are worth getting out. ACORN is an organization that, among other things, registers low-income people to vote. One of the ways they do this is to hire door-to-door canvassers from the neighborhoods they are working in. This sort of work is tightly regulated. So, when one of the thousands of people they give jobs to doesn't do their work right and brings back bogus or phony voter registration cards, the law REQUIRES that ACORN turn the forms in to the voter registration office. The law, rightly, doesn't want anybody throwing out voter registration forms for any reason.

But ACORN goes a step farther. They have people assigned to do quality control on all the cards--calling people on the forms after they fill them out. When they find bad information on the cards they attach a cover sheet to the card but, as mentioned above, they turn in the cards as required by law. The effect is that a few bad canvassers or a poorly run office will mean that bad cards are submitted as part of the normal process. But ACORN has done everything possible to make sure voting officials know to check the forms.

The sad fact is that in at least one state--Nevada--the voting officials disregarded ACORN's cover sheets flagging the voter registration forms. That should have never happened. The resulting blowup was a scandal in search of a scandal.

The stunning con of this whole thing is the assumption that bad voter registration cards being submitted will lead to vote fraud. If somebody submits a card for Mickey Mouse it isn't like Mr. Mouse is going to show up to vote.

There is no voter fraud if nobody votes.

But the big story here is what the Right is doing. Their attacks on ACORN open up the door for two things.

First, the ACORN myth allows the Republicans to do more purging of the voter rolls--the process of removing people from the voter rolls because of arbitrary anomalies in the voter registration databases. Richard L Hasen, author of the Election Law Blog and a distinguished law professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles recently wrote, "Careless purging--driven by unsubstantiated fears about voter fraud--can lead to many eligible voters being incorrectly removed from the polls." Already in Ohio the Republican Party is pushing for more purging and they found a federal judge who agreed citing ACORN's activities.

Second, in the event that campaigning, purging and intimidating voters doesn't work, the Right is creating a myth like they did in 1960. They are creating the myth of a stolen election. Conservatives plan to claim that ACORN and Barack Obama stole the election. Their hope is to steal the legitimacy of what is looking like a massive repudiation of Bush, conservatives and the Republican Party. The Right plans to steal the election by trying to steal the legitimate defeat of them by progressive forces.

(Tom Matzzie)

HP Boston

You have claimed to be a Democrat and other times a republican!

Can you please be honest and pick one story and stick to it ?

Posted by: Kellie | Oct 13, 2008 11:11:47 AM

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Never have I said I am a repub...I am an ex dem, now indie voting for McCAIN/PALIN! PUMA POWER!

Belle Starr

Why are you always so angry ?

More eratic behavour from mccain palin

Why no new ideas ?

Why no ideas at all but bush's falied ones ?

McCain should give it
a rest. He and his
bromidic advisors are
once again pretending
to have innovative and
original ideas to deal
with the economic crisis.

What the tired old man
needs to do right now is
to shut down his campaign
and go on a four-week
vacation.

blah blah blah is that better.

"wouldn't it be reassuring that [Obama]seems to at least be calm ... "
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"Calm", or sedated? Watch his eyes. Whatever it is, it's not in the least reassuring.

Barack Obama, D-Ill., has decided he will give a speech today in Toledo, Ohio, in which he will, according to his campaign, lay out an "economic rescue plan for the middle class."
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Betya for $1000 this phony will promise to give you yet another $1000 bucks if you vote for him. His money giveaways has been his solution for the middle class since last November. Yet, look at what you got for that first $600 bucks.

Go Bev!!!

Obama 08

HP Boston

You have claimed to be a Democrat and other times a republican!

Can you please be honest and pick one story and stick to it ?

I am so tired of the ill-informed....if you even have half a brain and really want to know the other side then go to you tube and type in...Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists

I am telling you this because those who are quick to accuse Obama of being a Terrorist, then you need to hear in Palin's own words what she supports.

Once you hear her words and those at the meetings honoring her, tell me your eyes and ears are lying to you.

I am sure that those who have hate for Obama will never watch this video, and I feel sorry for you because you won't listen to both sides. At least I have.

Obama/Biden '08

You blind Zero-bama supporters can use all means to blame George W. Bush for the misery that you have suffered (although His Nothingness claimed the Bush and Clinton administrations are the same), but you failed to see that it was caused by an unfit president. For correcting that wrong, you blindly support yet another unfit person, His Nothingness, to be your president.

Economy has periodic up and downs. The question is what preventive methods a President uses, in this case a Presidential Candidate proposes to use based on his judgment, to prevent a 50% market crash.

Zero-bama's approach is to give you $600 bucks, and promising you to give you yet another $1000 bucks if you elect him.

The reason that Zero-bama is directly responsible, not that he caused it, for the market crash is because congressional leaders have failed to act properly because they have decided to do anything to back up this phony as their choice of Presidential candidate of the democratic party, long ago before the primaries started.

Consequently, they promoted Zero-bama's cash giveaways, which happened to be a thing that George W. Bush supported. They ignored, dismissed, and ridiculed the competing solution by his then opponents, including Hillary Clinton, to target the real problem in Banking and Mortgage lending, which is generally recognized today.

If Zero-bama had the correct judgment or had the intelligence to understand the real problems of the economy, and to put his country first rather than giving voters sweeteners to buy their votes (as he is doing now in promising you $1000 bucks if you vote for him), it might just have helped the down-fall of US Banks and Mortgage lenders that let to the market crash, and 50% less in your retirement accounts.

If you are too young to have retirement accounts, of course you do not see nor need to understand all of these complicated stuff. However, if your father is among those 95% that Zero-bama is trying to deceive, you won't be expecting to get a new PlayStation for Christmas. You might be happy to know that your dad is not retiring any time soon either.

greymatter: "If Obama has not done anything wrong, then he does not have to admit it, does he?" If Obama did nothing wrong, why did he say he was a bonehead for doing what he did? That, as I said, is about the only thing he has admitted to. Of course he didn't gain anything financially. Politically is a different story. He keeps certain people in his hip pocket for political gain. Just like the slumlords he got grants for building some projects... which have already since been condemned. Yeah, he's for the people man... keep them dumb and poor and reliant on the government... more control that way.

He has been very careful to keep people who could help him advance politically in his hip pocket, and there is a steady stream of evidence that backs that claim. My point is, he is not as different as he has been able to make people think that he is. I'm not saying McCain's a saint. I'm saying the Obama you "see" is not the Obama that he really is.

I don't care- believe who and what you want. You'll get what you deserve if the guy gets in because of your vote. Me, I'll be standing in the welfare line because it will be a good deal with obama running the show.

NAT TURNER, DONT WORRY, I WANT A PIECE OF THE PIE. WOULD'NT YOU

It seems like the race issue has posed its ugly head again among the Obama MSM surrogates.

It’s their weak defense against dealing with the real issues as to why many voters won’t support Obama.

They don’t think Ayers should be an issue. Certainly not. Just because Obama’s Education Advisor Darling-Hammond’s blue-print for education is endorsed by Ayers. And she wrote a chapter in a book co-edited by Ayers. Certainly not. Don’t bring up anything relevant to character. And just because Obama sat in a pew with his family and listened to Rev Wright’s sermons railing against whites and jews. Certainly not. And Obama’s relationship with “the fixer” convicted felon Rezko. Certainly not. And then there’s campaigning for the ruthless Odinga and helping him strategize his campaign last year. Certainly not. And his Pakistani classmates now his bundlers, and al Mansour who handled collection for Obama’s “Harvard Tuition Fundraising” and Auchi (Saddam Hussein arms dealer) and Alsammarae, and Exelon and Obama’s “blind trust” and his Acorn trainer experience and his $800,000 to Acorn and shall I go on? Certainly these can’t be the reasons we won’t vote for Obama. So it must be because of race.

Where is the MSM’s conscience? How can they do this to America, our beloved country?

They’re too busy savaging McCain, who turns out to have even more integrity than I thought he had. Not to mention the villifying and misogyny of Palin.

I and I’m sure others, will never be able to believe the MSM again. I will not waste my time reading or listening to their agenda driven drivel. They have become absolutely useless.

greymatter:

"Obama did not cry racism. " That is just not true. The very first thing he said was, 'if i am not elected it will not be because of race but because people don't agree with my ideology'. He brought the word up. Then his minister of 20 yrs brought the word up. His followers on these blogs call people whitey if they don't like Obama. Open your eyes dude.

"Look, Obama HAS come out with very detailed plans on the economy and has outlined them several times in his speeches." He outlines nothing. He just talks of ideals and dreams of this and that. He tells you what you want to hear. Period.

"Have you actually watched his speeches before?" I have watched only a few because I have a hard time stomaching such an arrogant man. I felt the same way about Gore. But not about Clinton, so it's not a party thing. I hate arrogance, and Obama is the epitomy of it. Arrogance of that magnitude, is scary. You can talk all of the intelligent talk in the world and argue about someone, but if that someone is arrogant and holier than thou and admits no wrongdoing of any sort, watch out.

msa123,

The Rezko thing has been debunked. Look, in the first place, that time Rezko had not been exposed for fraud. And the house thing did not reap Obama any returns. It was just that the owner wanted to close the sales of the houses Obama and Rezko were buying on the same day, and the Obama's bought an extra strip of land from Rezko for a bigger yard or something. Obama did not benefit anyway financially from this. If Obama has not done anything wrong, then he does not have to admit it, does he?

McCain freely admits his mistakes? Sure, I suppose. Now what about his running-mate who refuses to admit she violated ethics in the Troopergate scandal? She goes how the report says it was within her lawful right to dismiss the guy. I mean, HELLO, Governor, NO ONE is denying that- as governor of course you have the power to dismiss your subordinates. But the issue is that your REASONS for dismissing him were UNETHICAL and it was UNPROFESSIONAL letting your husband your office.

what the hell is going on?

McCain thinks the fundamentals of the economy are strong. But, actually, a few hours later, he claims we are in a deep crisis.

McCain announces some sort of home mortgage plan during the debate. Then, alters it the next day.

Now, he is going to announce an Economic Plan. And, oops, he's not.

This is just in the past 2-3 weeks! What the hell is this guy doing? Forget erratic. I think he may truly be clueless on the economy. If he had a sit down interview and we spent 15 minutes on the economy, would he have depth in his answers beyond Question #2? Palin can't make it past Question #1 and McCain may only be one step ahead of her.

Yikes! At least she can deliver a speech. McCain can't even do that. I can't even tell who is holding who back on this McCain/Palin ticket. All I know is that I don't want these dead-weights holding America back for the next 4 years. We've tried the beer-pal for the last 8... let's try someone who can think on their feet and seems thoughtful and steady.

grey matter: At least John McCain admits his mistakes freely and openly. Obama denies everything - everything. Tell me one thing that he has admitted that he has been accused of... except the shady real estate deal with Rezko... which he said he was a 'bonehead' for being involved in. Yeah, it was a bonehead thing to do because it has come back to bite him in his political career. The man is arrogant to boot, and thinks he is God himself. He even makes his dad sound like a hero in his book. His dad was an alcoholic scumbag. If you vote for someone with the arrogance of Obama, just watch out.

Hey everyone! Get your hands out! More Demogrants are coming!

Thanks 0bama!

msa123,

Obama did not cry racism. But the kind of attacks McCain are using recently smack of racial undertones and negative stereotypes of Muslim and Middle-Eastern sounding name- riding on the impressions of terrorists formed from 9/11.

Look, Obama HAS come out with very detailed plans on the economy and has outlined them several times in his speeches. His website contains far more specs then McCain on it. Have you actually watched his speeches before?

I have watched both candidate's speeches. McCain and Palin keep saying how they're going to "shake up Washington" and reform, reform, reform, but never tell me EXACTLY HOW. Now, they spend most of their speeches tearing down their opponent instead of sharing their proposals.

And THIS is why Obama's campaign is running ads calling McCain "LIES." That's not a smear attack, it's not character assassination - it's descriptive of him and his shoddy FRIENDS.

ANY "economic plan" from any candidate means nothing, at this point.

A reason to beware of closet Stalinist Obama, however, is that all the pandering to the "middle class" ignores the fact that there are about a zillion POOR people -- including a huge number of those literally "homeless" -- in this country, whose existence is not so much as noted by EITHER corporate nominee.

That the hijacked Democrats aren't even MENTIONING the UN-"middle class" -- including many "urban" blacks -- for whom the doubling of prices is most significant, is chilling: meanwhile, the price of heating oil is projected to increase by another 25%.

When survival crime makes life itself iffy for all but the body-guarded rich and the political class, what do you suppose they intend to do??

I Belive the Enquier just ran a story on palin and how she had an affair that newspaper will report anything to make money

It seems like the race issue has posed its ugly head again among the Obama MSM surrogates.

It’s their weak defense against dealing with the real issues as to why many voters won’t support Obama.

They don’t think Ayers should be an issue. Certainly not. Just because Obama’s Education Advisor Darling-Hammond’s blue-print for education is endorsed by Ayers. And she wrote a chapter in a book co-edited by Ayers. Certainly not. Don’t bring up anything relevant to character. And just because Obama sat in a pew with his family and listened to Rev Wright’s sermons railing against whites and jews. Certainly not. And Obama’s relationship with “the fixer” convicted felon Rezko. Certainly not. And then there’s campaigning for the ruthless Odinga and helping him strategize his campaign last year. Certainly not. And his Pakistani classmates now his bundlers, and al Mansour who handled collection for Obama’s “Harvard Tuition Fundraising” and Auchi (Saddam Hussein arms dealer) and Alsammarae, and Exelon and Obama’s “blind trust” and his Acorn trainer experience and his $800,000 to Acorn and shall I go on? Certainly these can’t be the reasons we won’t vote for Obama. So it must be because of race.

Where is the MSM’s conscience? How can they do this to America, our beloved country?

They’re too busy savaging McCain, who turns out to have even more integrity than I thought he had. Not to mention the villifying and misogyny of Palin.

I and I’m sure others, will never be able to believe the MSM again. I will not waste my time reading or listening to their agenda driven drivel. They have become absolutely useless.

THIS IS SO OLD
I totally agree AMERICA is suppose to be better then this! We are suppose to rise above FEAR AND HATE and set GOOD EXAMPLES TO OTHER COUNTRIES, but in the last eight years our President has not made AMERICA look like the country we should be SAD!

greymatter: "You know, for those of you who don't agree with Obama, I mean, wouldn't it be reassuring that the guy seems to at least be calm and steady and knows what he's doing?"

Come on. The reason it appears as if Obama is calm and steady is because he doesn't have to do ANYthing - and so he hasn't. He hasn't come out with any great plans, except that he has made it clear he wants to socialize America. The economy 'hit' was a gift in his pocket. He has done nothing, nothing but ride the wave. Where is his detailed plan for the economy that he has promised since the days before the bailout was announced??? Open your eyes man. Look for the goods. He has accomplished and/or delivered nothing now, nor in his lifetime, for us. McCain is not able to question anything about Obama or Obama and his camp call it racism. Even though, if Obama was white, it would be fair game. It's all bs and smoke and mirrors to tie McCain's hands. And you know I'm right if you'd just consider that idea for a minute.

Can someone here tell me EXAMPLES of McCain's purported experience leading to GOOD JUDGEMENT?

The surge is only a stop-gap measure, by the way. Can McCain please tell me what he means by "victory" in Iraq? His hero, Gen. Petraeus HIMSELF said it was a situation where he couldn't use words like "victory" or "winning in Iraq" and that the surge was just you know, basically equivalent to stopping some of the bleeding to give you breathing space to fix the problem.

According to Petraeus, we cannot say we are "winning" in Iraq. What does McCain have to say to that, coming from the Commander there?

McCain appears brash. He makes statements about the bail out, then admits he hadn't even read the then 3 page long proposal yet. He rides to Washington, but Repubs and Dems there say he didn't contribute anything.

McCain doesn't appear to be looking before he leaps (quite similar to W, I suppose?).

Angie

Because fear and ignorance trumps tolerance and acceptance every time.

Sad, isn't it? What you don't understand must be feared. What is different from you must be feared.

What specific policy does and has Obama cited to improve the economy? I can tell you, NONE. Raise taxes on small business, kill the jobs remaining.
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Obama/Biden have an extensive proposal for the economy and small business. Just a small part of that proposal is

1. Eliminating capital gains taxes on investments in small business and start-ups
2. Additional tax incentives to encourage new investments for small business
3. Health care cost relief for the employers.

The Obama proposal is two pages long just to help small business.

WHat exactly does your candidate propose?

And THIS is why Obama's campaign is running ads calling McCain "LIES." That's not a smear attack, it's not character assassination - it's descriptive of him and his shoddy FRIENDS.
Obama Once Confessed That He Is A Radical - In his book “Dreams from my Father”, Obama confesses that he harbors the same negative racial stereotypes as Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his mentor for 20 years. On pages 198 to 204, Obama says that black nationalism, a steady attack on the white race would be justified if it could deliver. On page 100, Obama says he went out of his way to choose Marxist professors as his friends. Obama wrote: “To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully, the more politically active black students, the foreign students, the Chicanos, the Marxist professors and punk rock performance poets.”