Political Punch

Why is it that most of you are trying to convince the KOS Kids and the Koolaid drinkers off the ledge, they will not hear you. They only hear the heavenly music of the "One", No fact, No Logic, No Truth will alter them you are wasting your time. They cannot support any of their fact except with the "One" (absolutly unquestionable)truth or the assertions of the (In the Bag) media. If the media sent even have the time vetting the "one" as the did "Joe the Plumber" Hillary would be the candidate and maybe we would have a chance at fixing the country, but the "One" will only lead us to the dump.

In socialist-communist countries the first to go have historically been the elites and that group includes journalists, artists, college professors etc. Is that group in our country just dumb or are they self hating?

who knew how to spell "POTATO",
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And knows that J-O-B-S is a four-letter word?

Flash Override wrote:

"This is a lame attempt to create a narrative to explain the stealing of the vote."

Flash apparently refers to Tapper's post as a way of explaining away a "stolen" vote ahead of time.

I agree that there is preparation for the actual vote by talking up the polls, but it is by the optimistic Obama supporters and the media, who both figure that if they can declare the race over now, then a contrary result on election night will be ore susceptible to claims of fraud, voter suppression, etc.

I love how democrats throw around the voter fraud issue when the vast majority of voter fraud convictions have been against democrats.

Guilty conscious, I guess. ACORN is doing everything it can to try to corrupt the system -- while liberals cry "Diebold" to anyone who will listen. Sad.

I must be racist for even thinking that elections laws are supposed to be obeyed.

Obama = Dewey

McCain = Truman

On the morning after the 1948 presidential election, the Chicago Daily Tribune's headline read "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN." That's what the Republicans, the polls, the newspapers, the political writers, and even many Democrats had expected. But in the largest political upset in U.S. history, Harry S. Truman surprised everyone when he, and not Thomas E. Dewey, won the 1948 election for president of the United States.

By the way..thanks for playing that song Jack!

You betta check yo-self fo ya wreck yo self!!

Yes, we are losing, pay no attention to the polls, help me hit my goals, I mean, come work for change!

we were looking for a president who sticks to the issues, who wasn't going to fight dirty, who knew how to spell "POTATO", who didn't make us look like laughing stock of the world, who could bring us together as the great nation we are., who was smart, well spoken. that's who OBAMA is!!!! Republicans are just mad he turned out to be a black man. Who cares if he's black. GET OVER IT!!! Republicans are mad because they ended up with half-dead old man and a stupid idiot who can even name a single newspaper.

L.A Times < New York Times< Sacramento Bee< Daily Breeze.

How about that I'm more qualified than Sarah Palin!!!

STOP THE DRAMA !!!! VOTE OBAMA!!!!!

Amanda says:

I hate to say it but the Bradley Effect will have a big influence on the final results of Obama's campaign. Many people will never, and I mean never, vote for a black man for president.

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yes, but they are already being counted in the Republican column. How do you think that in the middle of this mess, 40% of the populace may be willing to vote for McCain. It's estimated that bout 6% now won't vote for a black for president, but the current climate has offered those whgo won't a socially acceptable excuse: "Obama isn't a black, he an "Ayrab" or "Muslim" or "terrorist" or "abortionist" or "he's not Hillary" or "an elite" etc. I suspect a good many older people will, worry more about their retirement savings and back Obama despite him being black. I also suspect those that don't want to vote for a black man are not going to often be in swing states that hold for McCain. Lots of them will be in places like Utah that have 20 point leads.

Amanda continues:
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The polls are tightening somewhat. Gallup, Rasmussen and Zogby are not at 10-13 points for Obama as some national polls have it.
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Last Rasmussen poll I saw today had Obama up by 11, and Gallup by the same.

The polls tend to overcount Republicans because under FCC rules you can't autodial cellphones, and that makes the pool older. It misses a lot of newly registered voters and those who only have cellphones who back Obama by margins between 2 and 3 to 1. The methodology -- discounting likely voters to the 60% that prevailed in 2004 is likely to be a substantial undercount of actual turnout, given the ground war Obama has been waging since the 2006 midterms.

Consider also that the things that got conservative evangelicals to the polls in swing states -- gay marriage propositions -- aren't on ballots now, and at least some evnagelicals are moving in Obama's direction.

The Republicans wouldn't have won in 2000 or 2004 without ballot fraud/manipulation, so the polls on Kerry and Gore might have been right. Not so sure about Carter, but the reality is that a greater proportion of Republicans than Democrats vote, largely because the Democrat demographic has a disproportionate share of people who don't own their own houses and are more mobile. Obama's GOTV has been the most professional ever, and that, more than any other single factor, will ensure he wins this time around, absent massive Republican ballot fraud.

Throw in the massive surge in interest by the young, who will not only vote but are the backbone of Obama's phone banks, fundraising, work on the web and outreach -- 150,000 in Fla alone, and McCain as well as Hillary were never going to beat that. For the Republicans it's entirtely about the candidate, but in the case of the young for Obama, it's more like a movemement for particiaption drawing down into the political firmament. Coming in tandem with the economic meltdown, this will be the foundation for generational Democrat dominance. McCain doesn't get that. If he did he wouldn't have bothered with fear and smear. That can only play to the ignorant and small minded who were always going to vote for him. Since most of these people are over 60, and the new people becoming involved are not uncommonly 14 or 15, this bodes ill for the for the hard right. That's why this is a watershed in US politics.

And not before time either. The US has been the laughing stock of the world for far too long. On November 4, the US will take it's first confident step out of the darkness and into the light.

Obama/Biden 08

It is funny to see Obama supporters accuse Jake of racism. Jake has been quite favourable to Obama.

On the other hand this is what America will look if Obama wins the Presidency( which I hope not), racist this...racist that, if you dont back Obama policies then you are racist.

I think Americans will be so scared to say anything as they will be labelled racist.

I support Obama and can't imagine the lack of intellect it would take to vote for McCain, but I won't relax until November 5th.

Obama definitely has a healthy lead right now, but a number of other polls indicate that the race is tightening up. Obama's double-digit lead in the ABC poll is not reflected in a number of other major polls.

Agree - "it ain't over 'til it's over." There's no room for complacency in an election.

For what it's worth, racism or insensitivity never entered my mind when I read the title. In fact, I found it insanely hilarious. Keep it up. Oh, and I seriously a significant number of other blacks think it's racist either.

Face it. Republicans will try and steal this election like they have in 2000 and 2004. Obama could be up 40 points and they would still find a way to steal it

Who thinks this is over? Smart Obama supporters like me know it's not over until it's actually over. Right now there's plenty of time for the Repubs and Karl Rove to pull some of their nasty tricks. That's why we are VIGILANT.

slp = there are alot of criminals in the presidential gang, but they are not on the democratic side. let's start with john and the keating 5. he was so ashamed of his own actions - that he changed the entire way he operated -at least until this election. then there's cindy, who was convicted of both theft and unlawful drug use, drugs she stole from a poor people's clinic no less - and did not time for. then there's cindy's daddy - a felon who cannot vote and who made his money through booze and racetracks. then there's sarah - who abused her executive authority and has to testify THIS week because the republican-led investigation is not over. then there is bonehead todd, who for no apparent reason, set himself up as a little henchman for sarah, read government emails (illegally) read governmnent documents (illegally) and belonged for years to a crowd that wanted to secede from the union. what a bunch of cons, felons, and wackos.

and you're whining about obama, who served on an annenburg board financed by republicans and served beside a bucnh of conservative republican businessmen? give me a break.

Belle, There is nothing Democratic about that freak show in Wasilla Alaska, either, from Joe Volger, the founder of the AIP, which Todd Palin belonged to - Old Joe, who said that he would kill any government agent who came after him - and that he HATED the United States of America to Mark Chryson, who says that he has enough "weaponry to arm a small army in his basement." He believes that there are 30 other states who interested in seceding. He is a pal of the Palins. As in a domestic terrorist pal - one of the bad guys. It's like a big Ruby Ridge up there and Sarah and Todd are the co-stars. I'd love to hear about who Sarah "palled" around with during her days in Northern Idaho - if these are her friends in Alaska.

It's not the Obama supporters - it's the McCain supporters. Somebody should tell Bill Kristol. And Rollins. They are already digging the grave.

I agree with you. McCain has sold himself to the sleeziest lobbyists and politicos in history - is completely willing to lie to win - and Sarah doesn't even recognize the difference betwen a truth and a lie. Unfortunately, this thing is far from over.

I love listening to the painful noise of the conservatives watching the end of their inglorious dominance of the political sphere. Sure it will be noisy as they go through the death knell, but it's very entertaining. It's alright to allow them to let off a little steam.. I love to see your thoughts in print as some posts are so very entertaining! OBAMA in a landslide, will be elected to the highest office of the nation. The days of the GOP voting machine are over. Americans have gotten way too smart to keep falling for the same lame GOP tactics over and over. Bye bye conservative trainwreck.

This is a lame attempt to create a narrative to explain the stealing of the vote. Obama does need a larger lead in order to win, only because it is likely that we will have a repeat of the last couple of elections. Vote supression and election fraud by the Republican Party is an established fact, and it WILL come into play again.

It ain't over until the fat lady sings. Let's not forget the possibility of hanging chads and all.. tricks that could be brought back into play by some of the less scrupulous members of the McCain-Palin campaign.

msa123:

"that's what the people in the welfare line say, too. But not to worry... Obama is going to take care of that by spreading the hard earned wealth around a little more."

I hope so! I'm tired of sending in my hard-earned pay just so the government can give it to the rich.

Let me explain it to you this way. It's first and ten with less than 1 minute left to play. Obama has the ball. All we have to do is take a knee to run out the clock. Obama's the MVP. We're not going to Disneyland, we're taking it to the HOUSE, the White House!

I still can't decide who to vote for. I took a quiz to see which candidate shares my views more. This helped me in my decision but I'm still not certain.

To msa123:

It is really amazing how ignorant some Right-Wingers in our country are.
As a college educated Republican, I am very embarrassed. Anybody with just a few college courses in Poli Sci and History would know what Socialism is. I call this the Palin effect, her appeal to the White-Trash, and bringing our party to the lowest level.

I don't agree with all of his ideas, but Obama's ideas are way far from being Socialism. They are very much based on a capitalist democracy. Please get some education and read, instead of spending too much time watching Fox News, and don't waste your time and other’s'.

P.

"But I would much rather be ahead than behind."

Yeah... that's what the people in the welfare line say, too. But not to worry... Obama is going to take care of that by spreading the hard earned wealth around a little more.

There is still plenty of work to do, phone calls to be made, doors to be knocked on etc.

But I would much rather be ahead than behind.

rob: you catch on real quick!!

rob: how's this:

rob proves my point exactly by engaging in black and white, either or thinking. This primitive thinking is characteristic of narcissism and other unconscious manifestations. To a brainwashed Democrats, bridled regulated socialism is the only viable economic model...even though the socialism of countries such as Russia/SU proves it to be an abject failure. So any hint of responsibility or accountability is labeled "capitalism" by a culturally conditioned Democrat. Socialism has proven not to be effective - period. It is the same old same old of the rich exploiting and destroying the working class, letting them stand in line for handouts by the government. Democrats have proven time and time again that they are no champions of responsibility or true accountability...preferring instead to wrap themselves in the chants of no flags, no religion, no guns, and other shallow displays of pseudo-patriotism.

Better?

msa123- When all else fails and you cannot come up with an intelligent rebuttal...smear, insult, and demean in typical Republican narcissistic fashion. LOL.I don't have to debate with you...you are self defeating like every other narcissist. No one ever said you could not disagree. 53% of us will be disagreeing with you and your ilk on Nov 4th when we drive the GOP out of the White House and the Congress. Good bye and good riddance to Republicans and Republicanism.

I am so tired of the ill-informed....if you even have half a brain and really want to know the other side then go to you tube and type in...Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists

I am telling you this because those who are quick to accuse Obama of being a Terrorist, then you need to hear in Palin's own words what she supports.

Once you hear her words and those at the meetings honoring her, tell me your eyes and ears are lying to you.
And after hearing it, maybe you ought to have some fear, she could be President!!!

I am sure that those who have hate for Obama will never watch this video, and I feel sorry for you because you won't listen to both sides. At least I have.

And you to vote for this ticket??????????

Obama/Biden '08

I hate to say it but the Bradley Effect will have a big influence on the final results of Obama's campaign. Many people will never, and I mean never, vote for a black man for president. The polls are tightening somewhat. Gallup, Rasmussen and Zogby are not at 10-13 points for Obama as some national polls have it.

msa123- Now tell me again how socialism dispels the notion of "conditioned robots who have never thought an independent thought in their lives."?

Who said anything about socialism? msa123 proves my point exactly by engaging in black and white, either or thinking. This primitive thinking is characteristic of narcissism and other unconscious manifestations. To a brainwashed Republican, unbridled unregulated capitalism is the only viable economic model...even though the current worldwide financial meltdown proves it to be an abject failure. So any hint of responsibility or accountability is labeled "socialism" by a culturally conditioned Republican. Capitalism requires accountability and reciprocity to be effective. Otherwise it is the same old same old of the rich exploiting and destroying the working class. Republicans have proven time and time again that they are no champions of responsibility or true accountability...preferring instead to wrap themselves in flags, religion, guns, and other shallow displays of pseudo-patriotism.

liberal progressive: Sweetie is a condescending term. It has nothing to do with what political persuasion you are. Obama speaks the same way... although he only did it once after he was caught on tape saying it.

"Okay sweetie. I'm sure Hillary( if she wasn't being gagged by the DNC) would beg to differ."

Is that sweetie addressed to a male or a female? (I sure wouldn't be calling somebody I don't know 'sweetie'.) BTW, are you a male or a female? I may not "go your way". . . .

"Okay sweetie. I'm sure Hillary( if she wasn't being gagged by the DNC) would beg to differ."

Is that sweetie addressed to a male or a female? (I sure wouldn't be calling somebody I don't know 'sweetie'.) BTW, are you a male or a female? I may not "go your way". . . .

"It is hard to think of any presidential candidate before Barack Obama sporting associations with three more execrable characters."

It's easy for me: John McCain. And his associations were a wee bit closer, like flying down in the man's jet to stay in the man's holiday mansion, or contravening the Senate's ethics code to "help out" his friend. And that's just ONE guy . . . .

Rob: "All of these groups are culturally conditioned robots who have never thought an independent thought in their lives."

Now tell me again how socialism dispels the notion of "conditioned robots who have never thought an independent thought in their lives."?

Palin stand for saving babies lives, and empowering women to achieve higher goals! This is NOT THE DEMOCRAT WAY! And it should be rejected!

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Palin should lead by example. She's all for sending people's babies (just as soon as they get a bit bigger and can shoot straight) to be killed in an unnecessary war. She sure isn't the brightest example of the best women can achieve, herself. Her record on women's issues is poor; her example of position abuse and vendetta-pursuing when in power is poor.

Democrats recognise that PALIN herself is the most undemocratic (i. e. autocratic, self-serving) VP nominee going . . .

"BBC does a better job of just reporting what they observe than any of the American news outlets has done in the last 15 years. ."

I'd agree with that. In the build up to the Iraq War, it was one of the only news sources that were not biased.

In reference to registering for selective service and allowing women in combat roles. There are women who are in 'non-combat' roles who are being killed or are being involved in fire fights, with no breakdown of the unit due to the men feeling they have to protect the women. The days of defined front lines and non-combat roles no longer apply in today's warfare. It is not fair for women to ask for equality if they then want to avoid any potential future draft. (and before anyone starts blasting, I am a woman)

To say a woman could not handle combat is short sighted. There are men who break in combat. It takes a certain kind of person, gender not being the deciding factor, to operate under fire and to shoot to kill someone.

BTW, folks, if you actually want people to READ what you wrote, you need to lose the all caps. I'm not hurting my eyes on that.

Plus it's rude.

"I'm really glad to hear this. I guess all of us could do more to encourage Obama supporters and ensure the voting process is secure. . . . along with posting comments "

I actually helped two former Obama supporters this weekend decide to vote for McCain. I didn't even have to bribe them with cigarettes. I just pointed out Obama's association with Ayers. Suprisingly they had never heard of Ayers.

Kellie, you are oh so wrong.

"We are not counting our chickens yet. we are still, proudly and enthusiastically, donating, knocking on doors and making phone calls to answer any questions people may have (after seeing some of Mccain's 'pants on fire' style ads) and encouraging them to vote early to avoid the long, long lines on Nov. 4th."

I'm really glad to hear this. I guess all of us could do more to encourage Obama supporters and ensure the voting process is secure. . . . along with posting comments . . . .

Mack

Ive told you NO Obama money went to Acorn:

No money went to Acorn..

$800 000 went to Community Services Inc
look it up!

"Also, Rollins is not the only Republican CNN has on their shows. But the reason they are on CNN instead of Fox news is because they are willing to talk intelligently about the election and not ignore facts that don't fit into the Repub bias."

CNN is biased. Period. Don't pretend that they are a non-partisan voice in this election. They may not be as biased as Fox or MSNBC, but they are still biased.

"In addition, there is a nice photo of McCain at an ACORN event in Florida posted at Politico."

Did he donate $800,000 to them and help teach their recruits thug tactics?

"Ed Rollins, token Repub on CNN that helped to run the Huckabee campaign that lost to McCain in the primaries."

Ahh, yes, the McCain supporter rebuttal that ignores all the facts. Rollins ran Reagan's 1984 campaign where Reagan won 49 states. He also ran Christine Todd Whitman's 1993 run for governor of New Jersey, where she came from behind to win. The guy knows what it takes to run a successful campaign.

Also, Rollins is not the only Republican CNN has on their shows. But the reason they are on CNN instead of Fox news is because they are willing to talk intelligently about the election and not ignore facts that don't fit into the Repub bias. Just like the Democrats on there don't do MSNBC because they don't play into the Democrat bias.

Rebecca-Couple of things that different: 1.this poll was before any of the debates; 2. Obama has a ton more money than Gore could have even dreamt of.
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Actually, this poll is post-debate and the debate gave Gore a nice bump in the polls which he quickly lost.

October 9, 2000
Web posted at: 5:05 p.m. EDT (2105 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush maintains his 8 point lead over his Democratic rival, Vice President Al Gore, in Monday's CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll.

Hillary gave a great speach yesterday in support of Obama!

The Republican's are pushing the ACORN story in an attempt to do to Obama what they did to JFK in 1960. The GOP creates this conspiracy fire drill to cover their purging of legitimate voters off of rolls in many cities.

In addition, there is a nice photo of McCain at an ACORN event in Florida posted at Politico.

"problems within the campaign office is causing the erratic look to McCain's campaign and is really hurting their chances."
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Corporate-style skullduggery originating with the Chicagoans, one doesn't doubt -- as mysterious as getting John Edwards (who SHOULD be the Democratic nominee, now that the Congress turned over the Treasury to the banks) into the campaign clutches of Rielle Hunter.

Some of the corporate Ayers types -- especially publishers -- have two hundred years' cumulative experience in destabilizing democratic organizations. That's how the ruling class KEEPS ruling.

"Ensure that you have plenty of cigarettes on hand to get out the bum vote."

Are you implying that bums (or any other homeless Americans, for that matter) don't have the right to vote?

So if your on the fence and are leaning to Sen Obama - Lean Further; or better yet now is the time to Jump into the Obama camp.

"It seems Mr. Obama's position shows more respect for the strength and equality of women than yours does."

Okay sweetie. I'm sure Hillary( if she wasn't being gagged by the DNC) would beg to differ.

Couple of things that different: 1.this poll was before any of the debates; 2. Obama has a ton more money than Gore could have even dreamt of.

The CHANGEling's hostility to women, and to babies other than his own, is creepy to contemplate.

Posted by: Belle Starr

I don't understand this. Women have demanded and FOUGHT for equal rights in every sphere of American society and life. I've always heard that "equal rights mean equal responsibilities". I don't see how any woman who views herself as equal to men can deny the responsibility here. Ironically, women in the US have traditionally had to fight to secure their homes and families on the numerous frontiers of American history. Yet people act as if women are too weak to defend their country at a time of war.

It seems Mr. Obama's position shows more respect for the strength and equality of women than yours does.

Its in all the UK papers how mccain is fighting with Palin...

Shes blaiming him for being weak!

Hes blaiming her for lying and being well not to bright!

Look at them its funny!

mccain and palin Dumb and Dumber!

Indonesia: 80-85% of the population is Muslim. All SCHOOLS are MUSLIMS- if you want your kids to be educated, no matter what religious affliation you are, you go to these schools, unless you have the money to send to a private American school.

We do have religious freedom in this country, don't we? I thought that was why America was founded, of course economic freedom as well.

""Having so much that he can run a 1/2 hour program on himself."
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I don't know the relative costs, but there's also the Paid-Ad Obama channel. The brainwashed can watch The One 'round-the-clock, if they wish.

What UN-advertised electronic adventures are in store for those who DO tune in to The CHANGEling on ANY medium is something it would be interesting to know. "

Is it going to be a sitcom?

"Having so much that he can run a 1/2 hour program on himself."
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I don't know the relative costs, but there's also the Paid-Ad Obama channel. The brainwashed can watch The One 'round-the-clock, if they wish.

What UN-advertised electronic adventures are in store for those who DO tune in to The CHANGEling on ANY medium is something it would be interesting to know.

dl--you're kidding right? Will, Good teh thousand times!!!

the only way McCain can lead in polls now, is to run the same prankster Bush ran with Al Gore, by releasing a warning from Al Queda that an imminent attack is on the way and reminds everyone he is the commander in chief! that is his compoubd in Sedona, AZ , not this time John even if you wear lipstick!

This election has seen very steady polling for 6 months. Kerry and Gore would have killed for these numbers.

Sure, its not over, but you shouldnt pretend this is a level field.

"There is a good article on CNN by Ed Rollins (a Republican) about how problems within the campaign office is causing the erratic look to McCain's campaign and is really hurting their chances.

Ed Rollins, token Repub on CNN that helped to run the Huckabee campaign that lost to McCain in the primaries.

Obama wants women to register for selective service.

These numbers do appear to be artificially high as the internals indicate 9% more Dems were sampled than Repubs. No doubt the GOTV efforts of the Dems. are huge and impressive, but +3%-5% sounds more reasonable. However, any way you slice it, Mr. Obama enjoys a statistically significant lead.

" development and distribution of specific voter assistance plans for everybody who needs help, along with voter checklists to make sure everybody who wants to vote actually makes it to the polling place."

Ensure that you have plenty of cigarettes on hand to get out the bum vote.

Brenda,

You shouldn't lump Q in with all the Obama supporters, just like I wouldn't lump the ones thinking Obama is a muslim and an arab with McCain supporters. Both sides have their knuckleheads. However, most Obama supporters are not brash, immature, or uneducated, just like most McCain supporters are not red-neck, backwoods, inbred, bigots.

You have to admit, the last week of attacks on Obama instead of addressing issues will hurt McCain's chances. Now that he is going back to addressing issues, he may be seen as being all over the place even more. There is a good article on CNN by Ed Rollins (a Republican) about how problems within the campaign office is causing the erratic look to McCain's campaign and is really hurting their chances.

I read the different news sites (ABC news, MSNBC, CNN, and even Fox news) to get my information. Knowing MSNBC and Fox news are the most biased ones on either end of the spectrum. Then I also read factcheck.org to fill in the gaps and the help filter the bs. So, don't call Obama supporters uneducated, unless you like following McCain's lead of attacking with little information.

T

it's worth it when it is coming so much from small ordinary americans...

our future is at stake...and the people who can't usually afford to donate to a campaign are donating because this election is that important to those individual struggling Americans.

liberal progressive

thus the reason a massive ground game of Americans out making sure the people who want to vote ...vote.

Obama should stop taking money for his campaign, it is insane the amount of money he has gathered. Having so much that he can run a 1/2 hour program on himself. Why not encourage people to keep their money pay thier bills, buy homes, cars, and things to help the economy bounce back. This is a showing of greed - just like the people in the financial insitutions give, give more and more and take. This shows that Obama is not the one for this economy.

On the real issues its the republicans fault or its democrats, actually it is both and it is not Bush's fault - he has asked congress to do something well before 2 years ago when this all started, but that is about all he can do. Congress votes and decides on all actions of the President. Choose the presidential candidate that can work with people and can help you and your family. But elect people to congress that can stop this rampent mess of the economy, war, and everythign you want change in.

All the presidential candidates promise the world this time - they will be lucky to do anythign other than try to keep the safety of the country. McCain has tried to explain that but the media is not giving him any time. There is nothing that will happen with taxes, healthcare, just like it has not since well before Carter, each promises these things.

If there isn't anything with Ayer's then why hasn't anyone found it or answered for it? Keating 5, Obama was still in school, and McCain was a freshman Senator, found to have not done anything wrong. All people have made mistakes, and as humans we have to realize that - but what is done by people now that is what we have to focus on in making a choice today.

So what exactly is your point?

Even if there was a poll showing Bush ahead of Gore by 5 points, or even 9 points at this time in 2000, we all know how close that one ended up.

Gore even ended up winning the popular vote.

Jake is wise to remind Democrats not to count those political chickens before they've been voted on. I read a brief article this weekend in which the writer lamented how a co-worker who had admired his Obama buttons had also "forgotten" to go register until after the deadline was past. Well, there went another potential Obama vote.

My point is that Democrats need to be working on the next stage of the game plan:

- continued support and upliftment for voters who are still influencable by Republican rhetoric or mudslinging;

- triple and quadruple checking of voting information and records so that Democratic voters are not disenfranchised

- development and distribution of specific voter assistance plans for everybody who needs help, along with voter checklists to make sure everybody who wants to vote actually makes it to the polling place.

Democrats need to keep the excess gloating to a minimum and remember that Nov. 5th is partying time - for the winners. That day is still 23 days away.

I believe the polls are reflecting a genuine swing in public opinion towards Obama/Biden. I also believe if the Democrats aren't careful, vigilant, and wary, the Republicans may try to "steal the ball and drive for a three-pointer".

A word to the wise is supposed to be sufficient. . . . .

cardinal

No money went to Acorn..

$800 000 went to Community Services Inc
look it up!

Obama still owes ACORN $500 thousand, think the deal was a dollar per voter.