Obama: I Assumed Ayers Had Been Rehabilitated

All the Obama Haters. Look at your girl Palin. She is guilty of abuse of power. So really can't be trusty.

Look like the Mavericks like breaking rules.

Yawn....

Forty years pass. Ayers is teaching at the same university as you.He's on several of the same commities as you. He's a productive member of society.I would assume he was rehabilitated too. Nobody talked about him, cared about him, and half of America didn't know about him.He didn't threaten you, obviously wasn't a problem for all the students and their parents. So what's the big deal now? Dose John McCain want nothing to do with the Vietnamese? No one cares about Ayers. What happened to all the good Christians out there that believe in forgiveness? Oh ya, their standing at McCain rallies shouting racial slurs and kill him.

bev:

OBAMA.....is all smoke and mirrors!

"Was not Obama personally selected by Ayers?"

Open to question. "In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment." - NYT.

Those several people might all be lying of course, or the NYT might be misreporting, but there's no evidence that Ayers actually did appoint Obama, only speculation that he 'must have'.

"I don't know this man" - - terrorist Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, convicted slum lord Rezco, corrupt Franklin Raines, terrorist Bernadette Dohrns.

Americans now say about Obama "I don't know this man"

Rehabilitated! ROFLMAO!

While Obama and Ayers were serving together on the Woods Fund, Ayers made his infamous, "I don’t regret setting bombs, I feel we didn’t do enough" comment published on 9/11.

Contrary to a meme being pushed by interested parties, the Weather Underground killed innocent people.

Brian V. McDonnell an officer with the San Francisco Police, was ripped apart by shrapnel Feb 16, 1970. He succumbed to his injuries two days later. Officer Robert Fogarty was permanently injured in the same blast. FBI mole Larry Grathwohl says Bill Ayers built the bomb, and that Bernadine Dohrn placed it on the station window ledge. Nyack, NY Police Officer Waverly Brown and Sergeant Ed O'Grady, along with Brinks guard Peter Paige, were killed in an armored car robbery that was a joint operation between the Weather Underground and elements of the Black Liberation Army in 1981.

Obama condemened the Reverends actions after much pressure so he admited to the man's poor character.

He said he only knew Myers incidentally, but that was a lie. They worked together on boards and Obama funnelled money to him to fund his extremist school. Later he said he "thought he was reformed."

Finally, he was closely associated with ACORN and we all know the criminal activities they've been involved in.

The bottom line. Either Obama has such poor judgement of characther that he UNKNOWINGLY surrounds himself with character of ill repute or he does it INTENTIONALLY.

Intentional or not. Obama is constantly surrounded by bad people and in the midst of curruption. Do you really want him to be our next President?

Barack Hussein Obama "ASSUMES"... another bone head dicision..we dont need this man as our President...wake up USA!

"Believe me, if that man was still a danger to anyone, would the feds allow him to be where he is now?"
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What "feds" do you think are above corporate control? There. aren't. any.

If there were any part of the "feds" which can control the corporations, the corporations wouldn't have succeeded in taking over the US Treasury, with the collusion of BOTH major party presidential candidates AND the "Democratic" Congress.

Do yourself a favor, kids: vote for Nader.

Ayers was never "locked up" or convincted of any crime, unlike Mr. Keating.

"Or is Obama a closet republican?"
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What "closet"? THAT closet, at least, is wide open: Obama's NEVER been any kind of democratic operator -- except when hijacking the party's nominations for various offices on the way to the big coup.

He's a mob-friendly pretty boy who's the figurehead for corporate operators who are very-private-people.

I just have this to say about associations with anyone you work with.
Any of you here, do you know what your boss does after work, or your fellow workers?

How do any of you know who or what you are associating with?

How many of you even knew the name Ayers until now?

Believe me, if that man was still a danger to anyone, would the feds allow him to be where he is now?
McCain was associated with Ayers as well through the founder Anningberg(sorry not right spelling)...

It is all smoke and mirrors.

Obama/Biden '08

"If Ayers is such a bad person, why isn't he still locked up and why in the world would anyone let him teach at their college?"
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The answer to this question is that Ayers is VERY rich, and his FATHER was VERY rich while the Weathermen were destroying SDS and the social revolution of the sixties.

Were Ayers and Dohrn -- who, unlike many others less well connected, not only were NEVER "locked up", but were professionally "rehabilitated" in the blink of an eye -- actually doing the work of the corporations/COINTELPRO in the sixties? It's worth wondering.

And is Obama's association with Ayers in his Columbia days the reason the "Democrats" have concealed everything about that period of Obama's past?

Do yourself a favor, liberals: vote for Ralph Nader. We KNOW which side HE's on.

(NOTE: poster "Susan" seems to have stung someone with that post on Ayers-Obama.)

Aengil says,

"It depends on the nature of the participation."

I couldn't agree more. unfortunately I and the rest of the world are at a disadvantage because the details of the Obama-Ayers relationship are fuzzy. I'll concede that point. But why are they fuzzy? Due to a lack of public documentation, Ayers refusing to talk and Obama changing his story from "a guy in my neighborhood" to "I assumed he had been rehabilitated". My, how the story has morphed.

Ayers was the money man, Obama was his chairman, correct? Was not Obama personally selected by Ayers? That's a pretty tight relationship at minimum. There are zero parallels to anyone else working on the board at the time. Even more spurious are claims that anyone who works at the same place as a socialist, etc., is guilty by participation. That's pretty weak.

"The point I'm making is simply that this is a complex issue."

Not to me. That's the big difference here. There were thousands of Viet Nam war protesters and only a few who chose to bomb their own people and facilities. Ayers was a delusional, self-righteous ideologue, son of a wealthy and influential Chicago businessman who took it upon himself to terrorize the populace. What is so complex? Many, many people acted out to the point where they made a difference in national policy but did not go to his extremes.

Isn't Palin supposed to be a Bible thumper or something? Well, she might try reading that book a little more carefully:

"I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and you visited me not." Matthew 25:43

"Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you." Colossians 3:13

I don't know what kind of character Ayers is, but it's pretty obvious he's rehabilitated himself, given his current position as an educator, not that he was ever convicted of any crime in the first place.

Palin, AGAIN, is a hypocrit.

Woody: "See, this isn't a matter of guilt by association with Obama and Ayers. It's a matter of guilt by PARTICIPATION. An entirely different matter."

It depends on the nature of the participation. You participated with socialists and communists, not directly, but simply by virtue of working at the same facility as them. That doesn't make you a commie, obviously. It depends entirely on the nature of the participation.

"Again, he tries to make a moral equivalence between domestic terrorism, defined as creating terror among the populace by exploding bombs in public places, and American action in the Viet Nam war. It's insane in my opinion but apparently you're ready to sign up for that."

Actually, I disagree with it personally, but that doesn't mean I think it's insane. There is a lot of substance to such an argument. The point I'm making is simply that this is a complex issue.

"That's what makes this country great, as well as the right to pair up with such people for six or seven years on "education reform"."

And here we get to the heart of the matter. You have to look at the whole picture. You say 'such people', well, who else was on the board? What do the records show?

e.g. Arnold Weber, member of the Nixon administration, and recent donor to the McCain campaign, was on the board of the CAC with Obama.

How does that figure into your equation? Does Weber share Ayers beliefs too? Or is Obama a closet republican?

Susan, Susan, Susan...

"Obama's relationship with Ayers has been close and long-term"

No it hasn't.

"both were attending Columbia U. in NYC, working with the same faculty mentor and living within walking distance of each other"

There are tens of thousands of people at Columbia U. Many of them will live within walking distance of each other, what with all working/attending the same location. They don't have a close relationship with each other.

"–1987 when BO was working as a community organizer for the Alinsky-style Developing Communities Project (DCP) and Ayers was a new assistant professor of education at the U. of Ill. Chicago Circle Campus, involved politically with the public schools crisis and looking to DCP as an ally."

You've got to be kidding me. You claim Ayers was 'looking to DCP'? Let's have details, what did he actually do? What did Obama do with Ayers then, hrm? Because from what you said there, you've got nothing.

"–1988 when Ayers solicited Khalid al-Mansour to raise money for BO's Harvard education."

Untrue. Obama attended Harvard with the help of student loans - he took out $42,753 worth.

"–1989 when Ayers and his father Tom Ayers (very prominent Chicago businessman and former head of Commonwealth Edison) got Obama a job at Sidley Austin law firm"

Untrue.

"–1993 when Bill Ayers placed BO on the Chicago Woods Foundation."

Untrue. (Woods director Jean Rudd did that).

"–1995 when Bill Ayers made BO chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge through year 2000."

Untrue. Obama was appointed by a group. Deborah Leff made the recommendation.

And so on.

The Republican veep nominee
is a secessionist. Her
husband is also committed
to making Alaska a foreign
country. It's disgusting
to see people like them.

Both should be in prison for
life.

You silly people act as if Obama was hanging out with this guy Ayers when he was 8 years of age bombing up the world! If Ayers is such a bad person, why isn't he still locked up and why in the world would anyone let him teach at their college?

I bet all of you trying to make this man's past an issue has some big ole skeletal bodies up on the shelf in your closet ready to bang a person in the head if they dared explore your past. Can this man let his past misdoings rest in peace? It was 40 years ago and you people are behaving as if it was yesterday! If this all you got? I mean for real this is truly a non issue. I would like to know the criminals you associate with!