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Obama on ACORN Controversy: "A Distraction... We Don't Need ACORN's Help"

October 14, 2008 3:35 PM

On Tuesday afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., made a statement about the latest economic developments and took questions from the reporters outside his hotel, the Maumee Bay Resort and Conference Center in Oregon, OH, not far from Toledo.

"Obviously the Treasury Department announced some refinements to the rescue package," Obama said. "I think the idea of injecting capital directly into banks is a good one, it gives taxpayers a better chance of getting their money out potentially, it also gives the Treasury some more direct mechanisms to monitor and apply some ground rules to participating banks.

"I am concerned that the way that they structure this new mechanism that we are cracking down on excessive CEO pay," said the Democratic presidential nominee, "that, I think, should be part of the deal. And I’m also concerned that taxpayer shares – that they are purchasing or they are receiving as  consequence of this injection of equity is a good deal for tax payers. I think that if tax payers are investing in Goldman Sachs, they shouldn't get a worse deal than when Warren Buffet invests in Goldman Sachs.

"I know there has also been some talk about providing guarantees to bank loans, to encourage the credit market from moving forward," said Obama. "Again, I think this could potentially be promising as a way of freeing up credit so that small business and individuals around the country can get car loans can get business loans for payroll and so forth. But it is very important that there are some regulatory requirements ultimately that go with these injections of cash. If we're just giving them money but we're not making sure that they are curbing some of the excessive risks that got us into the mess in the first place, then we are just continuing the same philosophy that has failed the American people so badly.

"So I'm going to look at details of the plan, I have had already a discussion with Secretary (Hank) Paulson about it before he announced it," concluded the lanky Illinoisan. "I want to see on paper how they are putting this thing together. And I continue to emphasize that this is just one phase of a rescue package that's needed because we still need a rescue package for the middle class. And the proposals I’ve put forward to create jobs, to make sure that families are able to ride though these difficult times, to help homeowners those are all issues that await action by congress and if we don't get it don't in the lame duck session then they’re going to be some of my top priorities when I am president."

Obama then took questions from the media.

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ABC News noted that "Senator McCain today said that 'there has been voter fraud going on in the battleground states. ACORN is tampering with Americans' most precious right; there has to be a full and complete investigation.'  And he also said that you need to disclose your full relationship with ACORN. I'm wondering if you have any reaction to the reports of voter fraud and also to Sen. McCain's charge?"

Obama replied: "first of all, my relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward.  It's probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the US Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the 'Motor Voter' law,  to make sure that people could go to DMV’s and drivers’ license facilities to get registered.. It wasn’t being implemented. That was my relationship and is my relationship to ACORN.

"There is an ACORN organization in Chicago," Obama continued. "They have been active. As an elected official, I've had interactions with them. But they are not advising our campaign. We've got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don’t need ACORN’s help.

“My understanding in terms of the voter fraud, because having run a voter registration drive, I know how problems arise, this is typically a situation where ACORN probably paid people to get registrations and these folks, not wanting to actually register people because that's actually hard work, just went into a phone book or made up names and submitted false registrations to get paid," Obama said. "So there's been fraud perpetrated probably on ACORN if they paid these individuals and they actually didn’t do registrations.”

"But this isn't a situation where there's actually people who are going to try to vote 'cause these are phony names," Obama said. "And, it's doubtful (Dallas Cowboys quarterback) Tony Romo (whose name has been fraudulently submitted) is gonna show up in Ohio to vote. So this is another one of these distractions that gets stirred up in the course of a campaign.

"But what I want to make sure of, is that this is not used as an excuse for the kind of voter suppression strategies and tactics that we've seen in the past. Let’s just make sure everybody is voting, everybody’s registered.  Let's make sure that everybody’s doing it in a lawful way."

Another reporter asked Obama's reactions to the economic policy proposals put forward by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., today, in particular his proposal to significantly reduce long-term capital gains taxes so as to spur investment.

"Well you know I haven't reviewed all the details yet," Obama said. “You know, there are some ideas that Sen. McCain has put forward in the last couple of weeks that are very bad ideas. The idea of, for example, of purchasing homes at full prices from banks so that banks have no losses and taxpayers automatically have losses, that’s a bad idea and I think its been panned by democrats and republicans.

"He's had some good ideas," Obama continued. "I think the idea of making sure that people aren't forced to sell their 401(k) or IRA accounts at the age of 70 when the market is in the tank, I think that makes sense and in fact I acknowledged that in my speech yesterday.

"I haven't looked at all the details of his capital gains proposal. I will tell you that  nobody one really has capital gains right now – so if the idea is the cut capital gains taxes, when I don’t know anybody, even the smartest investors who right now are going to be experiencing a lot of capital gains. That probably is not going to be particularly useful in solving the financial crisis. But I will review the plan and I’m sure that Sen. McCain will have more to say about it tomorrow."

-- Jake Tapper, Andy Fies and Sunlen Miller

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Instead of spending your time bickering between each other maybe do a little research about the claims made and find your own truth instead of what is fed to you by the media, and the candidates. I will say that McCain has said numerous times to check their records. Obama has never said to check his.

Posted by: American | Oct 19, 2008 6:15:53 PM

Isn't it funny?
The economy is in ruins, two (possibly more) wars are being waged at tremendous cost, the health care system and the education need reveiwing, and the climate isn't getter better either.

And what do the Republicans decide should be the major issues in the presidential elections? Whether or not Obama has something to do with what could possibly be fraud by an association he has some ties with. And something about a rehabilitated university professor with whom he shared the board of an anti-poverty group and whose previous-life misdeeds he has clearly denounced.

And then they wonder why the polls go the way they go.

Posted by: Marvol | Oct 15, 2008 12:32:03 PM

It isn't just that the Obama campaign paid ACORN $843,000 for voter registration, it is that the originally listed to the FEC that the money was for lighting, sound, staging. When caught, the said they would ammend the FEC report.

Posted by: Backgammon | Oct 15, 2008 8:55:46 AM

What about the $800,000 his campaign gave to ACORN?

Posted by: susie | Oct 15, 2008 8:29:51 AM

Obama is assuring voters now that he doesn't need ACORN's help - but told them and other Community Organizations in December 2007 that once elected he would travel the country between then and Innauguration Day, meeting with COs and being sure that they have input to help shape his White House agenda.

Posted by: marylou | Oct 15, 2008 8:12:12 AM

"I will tell you that nobody one really has capital gains right now – so if the idea is the cut capital gains taxes, when I don’t know anybody, even the smartest investors who right now are going to be experiencing a lot of capital gains. That probably is not going to be particularly useful in solving the financial crisis"

Rather telling on how little Obama understands about Business... Somebody stop this man, he's a fool that doesn't understand basic economics!!!

Posted by: josparke | Oct 15, 2008 8:09:12 AM

There's a lot of low-resolution thinking going on here. "ACORN has been defrauded" isn't the same as "ACORN has committed fraud." If you can't see the difference, I suggest you deregister yourself because you obviously have no capacity for rational thought.

Of however many invalid registrations were paid for by ACORN, how many were submitted without flagging by ACORN? (Please note, ACORN did not have the option of throwing away registrations they thought were questionable, because the forms are numbered and must be accounted for.)

Of that small number, how many went undetected by the Registrar of Voters? Of those, how many are the least bit likely to result in actual invalid votes being cast? Because that would require someone to know about the false reg. and show up on election day.

What kind of vast zombie army do you think Obama has under his nefarious telepathic command? Isn't this something out of some late-late-night sci fi flick? What kind of no-lobes think this actually happens in reality?

Posted by: Fingal | Oct 15, 2008 8:05:52 AM

Concerned in OH: "NY Post is reporting that some ACORN "voter" tried to vote in OH."

No they're not. From the article:

"... he breezed into Ohio election offices - the state allows early voting for president - reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said."

That vote is nothing to do with ACORN. That's just some idiot, who reregistered not with ACORN, but in the election office, as the article says.

Posted by: Aengil | Oct 15, 2008 5:07:29 AM

I wish some people can just take some minutes out of there busy schedules to get facts.

Know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

The modus operandi of ACORN are:

1. Recruit people for voters registration drives.

2. Set targets for the canvassers, as they are paid according to number of Voters they are able to register.

In order for the Canvassers to maximize their income, they fill the forms with fictitious names and they get paid.

You will see from the simple analysis above that ACORN as an Organization does not engage in Fraud.

But Americans that are engaged by ACORN perpetrates the Fraud on ACORN to get extra pay.

Here ACORN loses. Because it pays these canvassers for Jobs not done.

These fictitious names are not real People resident in such districts and hence, they are not enfranchise since they can not vote.

As an analogy, a real person, Dwight Aaron resident in Dover can not come to Ohio on the day of voting to vote despite having his name on the voters reg. list in Toledo.

Hence, the Candidates need not fear because it is ACORN that loses money to the smart alec for work paid for but not done.

The two Campaigns know this as a fact. Any of the Campign shouting blue-murder is only trying to take undue advantage of the ignorance of the recipients of such information

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | Oct 15, 2008 4:56:24 AM

Just like with Fannie, the republicans go after anybody that they perceive helps minorities. ACORN is small potatoes compared to the numerous grass-roots, community activists and plain folk encouraging people to participate in the election. This is so not rocket-science! It's ONE VOTE, not one registration.

Posted by: Common Sense | Oct 15, 2008 4:36:46 AM

There are a lot of things that i dislike about Obama, but I just love his straightforward attitude when he talks to people. He actually answers the question (both parts of it), explains the whole problem in simple terms, doesn't try to change the subject.
I can only imagine McCain's answer if the roles had been reversed. Something like "These accusations are outrageous. Voters know that I have always fought for our country. The Obama campaign is trying to prevent decent American people from choosing their next leader."

Posted by: nadja | Oct 15, 2008 4:04:41 AM

Oh man, you are missing half the story - in states with motor-voter there are TONS of duplicates. And this has been going on since 1993. Think of all the possible duplicate votes... which you think we would know about if these case went anywhere, which they don't.

I'm also thrilled to learn the in some states the registration system is so tight that we actually know if a voter was "registered by ACORN" or not. I mean, I know that registrar's books are numbered and audited, but I didn't realized that we could review who registered someone so dang quickly.

I say we have separate lines at the polls. One of ACORN registered voters, and one for the rest of us.

Posted by: Pup | Oct 15, 2008 1:51:06 AM

Listen, the NAACP and Labor Unions also registered tons of voters for OBAMA. He has contributed money to all these organizations. All together there are about 25 voter registration groups that are in the bag for Democrats.
You people are chasing a wild rabbit with ACORN...
good luck!!

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | Oct 15, 2008 1:24:44 AM

There are 2 dozen voter registration groups funded by Democrats. ACORN is nothing compared to the others that include the NAACP - which Obama donated to as well.
You people are silly. OBAMA does not need ACORN...
get a life!

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | Oct 15, 2008 1:17:46 AM

True American: I have a question? What kind of military experience did Bush have?

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | Oct 15, 2008 1:14:33 AM

the ACORN thiong isnt as simple as the Obama people say and Obama does have issues to be worked out before he can be eldcted

Posted by: stang | Oct 15, 2008 12:30:42 AM

Michelle Geissler--Thanks for the info. It's very scary to think of Obama as prez when he has no military experience and seems to not even like our military considering the lies he's told about them attacking villages.
Also scary is that he seems to have sympathy for the extremist islamic terror groups who have endorsed his presidency.

Posted by: True American | Oct 15, 2008 12:09:04 AM

BJ--I couldn't agree with you more. It's like talking to a bunch of bobble heads.

Posted by: True American | Oct 14, 2008 11:19:28 PM

There were irregularities in registering the voters. The people hired by ACORN committed the irregularities. ACORN reported these irregularities. How is it the fault of ACORN or Obama. And if we are playing guilt by association here are some for you to consider.

1) Todd Palin, Sara Palin's husband was a member of the seccionist group AIP.
2) McCain is pals with the convicted felon Gordon Liddy.
3) McCain has as his advisor one who lobbied for Saddam Hussein.

What do you right wing creatures have to say about this.

Posted by: feminist50 | Oct 14, 2008 11:00:15 PM

This voter registration hue and cry we hear every two years (since the Civil War, anyway) always amount to nothing. It is merely an excuse for the ham-handed attempts at voter intimidation that inevitably follow them. They have a long and sordid history, and it is ultimately about attempting to suppress people's right to vote.

Posted by: Flash Override | Oct 14, 2008 10:52:31 PM

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