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Obama on ACORN Controversy: "A Distraction... We Don't Need ACORN's Help"

October 14, 2008 3:35 PM

On Tuesday afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., made a statement about the latest economic developments and took questions from the reporters outside his hotel, the Maumee Bay Resort and Conference Center in Oregon, OH, not far from Toledo.

"Obviously the Treasury Department announced some refinements to the rescue package," Obama said. "I think the idea of injecting capital directly into banks is a good one, it gives taxpayers a better chance of getting their money out potentially, it also gives the Treasury some more direct mechanisms to monitor and apply some ground rules to participating banks.

"I am concerned that the way that they structure this new mechanism that we are cracking down on excessive CEO pay," said the Democratic presidential nominee, "that, I think, should be part of the deal. And I’m also concerned that taxpayer shares – that they are purchasing or they are receiving as  consequence of this injection of equity is a good deal for tax payers. I think that if tax payers are investing in Goldman Sachs, they shouldn't get a worse deal than when Warren Buffet invests in Goldman Sachs.

"I know there has also been some talk about providing guarantees to bank loans, to encourage the credit market from moving forward," said Obama. "Again, I think this could potentially be promising as a way of freeing up credit so that small business and individuals around the country can get car loans can get business loans for payroll and so forth. But it is very important that there are some regulatory requirements ultimately that go with these injections of cash. If we're just giving them money but we're not making sure that they are curbing some of the excessive risks that got us into the mess in the first place, then we are just continuing the same philosophy that has failed the American people so badly.

"So I'm going to look at details of the plan, I have had already a discussion with Secretary (Hank) Paulson about it before he announced it," concluded the lanky Illinoisan. "I want to see on paper how they are putting this thing together. And I continue to emphasize that this is just one phase of a rescue package that's needed because we still need a rescue package for the middle class. And the proposals I’ve put forward to create jobs, to make sure that families are able to ride though these difficult times, to help homeowners those are all issues that await action by congress and if we don't get it don't in the lame duck session then they’re going to be some of my top priorities when I am president."

Obama then took questions from the media.

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ABC News noted that "Senator McCain today said that 'there has been voter fraud going on in the battleground states. ACORN is tampering with Americans' most precious right; there has to be a full and complete investigation.'  And he also said that you need to disclose your full relationship with ACORN. I'm wondering if you have any reaction to the reports of voter fraud and also to Sen. McCain's charge?"

Obama replied: "first of all, my relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward.  It's probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the US Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the 'Motor Voter' law,  to make sure that people could go to DMV’s and drivers’ license facilities to get registered.. It wasn’t being implemented. That was my relationship and is my relationship to ACORN.

"There is an ACORN organization in Chicago," Obama continued. "They have been active. As an elected official, I've had interactions with them. But they are not advising our campaign. We've got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don’t need ACORN’s help.

“My understanding in terms of the voter fraud, because having run a voter registration drive, I know how problems arise, this is typically a situation where ACORN probably paid people to get registrations and these folks, not wanting to actually register people because that's actually hard work, just went into a phone book or made up names and submitted false registrations to get paid," Obama said. "So there's been fraud perpetrated probably on ACORN if they paid these individuals and they actually didn’t do registrations.”

"But this isn't a situation where there's actually people who are going to try to vote 'cause these are phony names," Obama said. "And, it's doubtful (Dallas Cowboys quarterback) Tony Romo (whose name has been fraudulently submitted) is gonna show up in Ohio to vote. So this is another one of these distractions that gets stirred up in the course of a campaign.

"But what I want to make sure of, is that this is not used as an excuse for the kind of voter suppression strategies and tactics that we've seen in the past. Let’s just make sure everybody is voting, everybody’s registered.  Let's make sure that everybody’s doing it in a lawful way."

Another reporter asked Obama's reactions to the economic policy proposals put forward by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., today, in particular his proposal to significantly reduce long-term capital gains taxes so as to spur investment.

"Well you know I haven't reviewed all the details yet," Obama said. “You know, there are some ideas that Sen. McCain has put forward in the last couple of weeks that are very bad ideas. The idea of, for example, of purchasing homes at full prices from banks so that banks have no losses and taxpayers automatically have losses, that’s a bad idea and I think its been panned by democrats and republicans.

"He's had some good ideas," Obama continued. "I think the idea of making sure that people aren't forced to sell their 401(k) or IRA accounts at the age of 70 when the market is in the tank, I think that makes sense and in fact I acknowledged that in my speech yesterday.

"I haven't looked at all the details of his capital gains proposal. I will tell you that  nobody one really has capital gains right now – so if the idea is the cut capital gains taxes, when I don’t know anybody, even the smartest investors who right now are going to be experiencing a lot of capital gains. That probably is not going to be particularly useful in solving the financial crisis. But I will review the plan and I’m sure that Sen. McCain will have more to say about it tomorrow."

-- Jake Tapper, Andy Fies and Sunlen Miller

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This voter registration hue and cry we hear every two years (since the Civil War, anyway) always amount to nothing. It is merely an excuse for the ham-handed attempts at voter intimidation that inevitably follow them. They have a long and sordid history, and it is ultimately about attempting to suppress people's right to vote.

Posted by: Flash Override | Oct 14, 2008 10:52:31 PM

hypocrisy... thy name is McCain

- William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.

The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein's government.

During the same period beginning in 1992, Timmons worked closely with the two lobbyists, Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, on a previously unreported prospective deal with the Iraqis in which they hoped to be awarded a contract to purchase and resell Iraqi oil.


Timmons, Vincent, and Park stood to share at least $45 million if the business deal went through.

- Timmons' activities occurred in the years following the first Gulf War, when Washington considered Iraq to be a rogue enemy state and a sponsor of terrorism. His dealings on behalf of the deceased Iraqi leader stand in stark contrast to the views his current employer held at the time.

Posted by: Blue | Oct 14, 2008 10:46:23 PM

Obviously OBAMA does not need ACORN. He can perpetrate his OWN FRAUD!

Why are people so naive about Obama? Can you name me any other candidate who has SO MANY questionable and shady associations as Obama does?

Be very very scared of this man.

Posted by: BJ | Oct 14, 2008 10:44:59 PM

The saddest thing to me, is that it's still three weeks until Election Day and this election is ALREADY IN THE COURTS!!

The Sixth Circuit Court late today overturned the Order of its lower Court, and now the Democratic Secretary of State in Ohio, DOES have to verify EACH new absentee ballot voter name and address before they are allowed to be counted.

This election is already in the Courts, and I have a feeling this is just the beginning of the litigation.

Posted by: Lee | Oct 14, 2008 10:41:45 PM

Maybe if the Republicans hadn't spent all their money defending their felonious phone jamming schemes they might have come out better in this election.

Posted by: Flash Override | Oct 14, 2008 10:40:59 PM

Flash drive, I encourage poor people to vote. Wish more of them voted in their own self-interest, but different strokes... I have a problem with people who use poor people's right to vote as an excuse to try to undermine the integrity of the voting system by voter registration fraud and voter fraud. I have seen how much grief Georgia is getting for having the audacity to say that every voter must show identification to vote-- how controversial could that possibly be, right? But I'm continually told by Democrats that this is an unfair burden that falls disproportionately on the poor and people of color, which I find incredibly patronizing. And Georgia even gives out free id cards for those who do not have drivers license or other approved photo id. Even so, the law is being fought in the courts. Go figure.

Posted by: moderate | Oct 14, 2008 10:23:52 PM

That's not the Rev. Wright I knew...
That's not the Michael Pfleger I knew...
That's not the Bill Ayers I knew...
That's not the Tony Rezko I knew...
That's not the ACORN I knew...
What next?
That's not the Certification of Live Birth I knew...

Another note, once again it's about ME, ME, ME...he NEVER mentioned how our tax dollars are being wasted sifting through this ACORN mess.

Posted by: ugh | Oct 14, 2008 10:21:42 PM

A distraction, says Obama. Crack me up. That's always his first response when something he does not want to have to explain to the American public comes up-- like Rev. Wright, William Ayers, flag pins that reappear on his lapel in time for the general campaign, his home purchase details, the list goes on and on. What a lot of distractions. Ever notice that his "distraction" statement is his own attempt at distracting us from asking about these things? He is a jujitsu master, it seems.

Posted by: moderate | Oct 14, 2008 10:18:29 PM

Let's see:
Trooper Gate (abuse of power)
AIP
No experience
No College Transcript
CAN WE TRUST PALIN???

Posted by: Lucky Lucy | Oct 14, 2008 9:57:30 PM

Obama’s blind ambition and results of his leadership guidance. Remember, Senator Barack Obama has problems with speaking the truth.


America has become a nation where major corporations have to train its employee’s basic human aspects like respect and ethics. Most Americans know that Hollywood and liberals are responsible for taking away decency and replaces morality with immoral or vulgar antics. But at fault are the few selfish politicians like Senator Barack Obama whose ego and blind ambition is allowed to grow with no accountability from the media or political peers. Especially when the media gives such ambitious individuals an endless amount of free press.


For example, today Rev. Jesse Jackson suggested that Sen. Obama would not put Israeli interest first (CNN, 15 Oct 08). Yet Fox News today reported (i.e., showed tapes interviews) that Sen. Obama has hired Jewish college students and pays them $12 an hour to go to Florida and other critical states trying to change their grandparents and other senior citizens minds to vote for Obama. But this is nothing for a politician that became ACORN’s their primary trainer and was credited converting traditional education systems to social cultures. It was ACORN that is credited with the recent subprime mortgage practices that caused a $700 billion bailout that would have benefited ACORN with $140 billion had Senator John McCain not returned to Washington thanks to Sen. Obama and his fellow Democrats.


This week Americans learned that Sen. Obama hired ACORN for $800,000 to help him with his election and not to help register minorities. In recent times, ACORN has used fake names, dead voters, voters that are in prison and ACORN employees that are convicted convicts, imaginary people including “Fruto Boy Crispila”, and countless other cases with duplicate voter registrations. ACORN added to the two individuals convicted last year with voter registration fraud and added additional employees that are being investigated in 12 states with voter registration fraud. The Nevada and Carolina raids found that ACORN falsely registered the entire Dallas Cowboys football team although they are not Nevada residents. ACORNs illegal activities have shown up in Missouri, Connecticut, Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana and other states with the list growing. In Indianapolis alone, the voter fraud benefited Barack Obama when a hundred and five percent of the population was registered by ACORN.

Posted by: Dr Rene | Oct 14, 2008 9:31:07 PM

Hey flash drive, it's not that Republicans don't want poor people to vote... We just don't want dead people and cartoon characters to "vote".... Coincidentally, that is EXACTLY one of the MANY charges against Acorn members, et al...

Posted by: delaware Vol | Oct 14, 2008 9:18:57 PM

Ayers.
Trinity United.
ACORN.
Obama is "guilty by participation" in all cases.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: OxyCon | Oct 14, 2008 8:42:57 PM

Why do Republicans have such a hard time with poor people voting?

Posted by: Flash Override | Oct 14, 2008 8:40:46 PM

Let's get this straight. ACORN does not work for Obama. They are a non-profit agency that pays workers to get people registered and they have had some workers just take names out of phonebooks, etc. to get money. Registration fraud does not mean voter fraud. Mickey Mouse is not coming to the polls to vote. They just tricked ACORN out of some money.
Here is what Obama has said.
"My relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward. It's probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the U.S. Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the "motor voter" law, to make sure that people could go to DMVs and driver's license facilities to get registered. It wasn't being implemented. That was my relationship, and is my relationship to ACORN. THEY ARE NOT ADVISING OUR CAMPAIGN," Obama has said. "We've got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don't need ACORN's help."
"This isn't a situation where there's actually people who are going to try to vote because these are phony names. ..Let's just make sure everybody is voting, everybody's registered. Let's make sure that everybody's doing it in a lawful way."

Posted by: jefflz | Oct 14, 2008 8:27:11 PM

I lived in Alaska for 25 years and the Alaska Indedpendence Party has been around a very long time. It was formed after statehood because some residents were ticked off because less than 1% of Alaska land was directed to be owned by individuals. The land there was and is owned by the federal, state, and boroughs, the military and native tribes. I even attended a meeting or two and did not find them very controvorsial or have much power. There were business, political and individuals there during an election period. Most people wanted the USA government to recognize Alaska's need for more money for roads, schools, etc.
The US government in Washington gets 4 times as many dollars from sales of resources from Alaska land as is sent back to support Alaska except for the military. In other words, Alaskans are getting shortchanged since statehood. Those blasting the AIP knows little or nothing but is trying to black list the Palins. My kids at the Anchorage schools did not have enough text book--several kids had to share the same books during the 1970s. Federal dollars sent to military kids schools was being sent to rural area schools. I was a school room volunteer for two years.

Posted by: Mary | Oct 14, 2008 8:25:34 PM

Well said, Wade

Posted by: msa123 | Oct 14, 2008 8:22:50 PM

Obama's connections to these organizations and individuals don't show any blatant corruption or intent to subvert the voting process, etc. I believe Obama is sincere in wanting a lawful voting process.

However, I think his lack of judgment shows through. Just throw "organizing" somewhere in the title and Obama will grant an audience...he thinks they are fighting the good fight even if its not so.

Examples:

1. Ayers: "I presumed he was rehabilitated..."
2. Wright "that's not the Wright I know..?"
3. ACORN...its not their fault...

He gives left-wingers a huge benefit of the doubt...comes back to bite him every time. He may indeed win (cross fingers, no)...please keep groups like ACORN away from the tax $ please.

If he wins, it will be our job to criticize him with all these "distractions."


Posted by: Wade | Oct 14, 2008 8:10:14 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Republicans turned in these false registrations to set up ACORN.

All McCain has left is a fake charge of vote fraud. It won't work!

Posted by: McHooverville | Oct 14, 2008 8:03:05 PM

As an "undecided Republican," I've done the research into ACORN and Obama is right. ACORN will not get him one single extra vote, and in fact it will probably cost him a few (in terms of the uninformed who believe the latest McCain attack line). It's Obama's own ground game that will make or break the election for him.

Posted by: faithnabove | Oct 14, 2008 8:00:35 PM

@Frieda

Its the politically correct way to say lies.

@liberati

The Ayers myth was put to rest numerous times, by a number of publications. When talking about "corrupt and dangerous associations" I never see you people bring up Keating, ot Libby, or the Council of World Freedom.

His birth certificate has been produced, examined by two (two!) non-partisan groups and proven real. You never bitch about seeing McCain's even though he was born out of country.

He represented ACORN, and may have contributed to them. So did John McCain.

Has Obama made mistakes? I hope so, he's human. FISA was a mistake, and in hindsight I'm sure he regrets being on an education board, funded by republican friends of Ronald Reagan, with a stupid hippy radical.

Posted by: Xero | Oct 14, 2008 7:53:49 PM

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