Obama on Attacking Keating Attacks on McCain: ‘We Don't Throw the First Punch, But We'll Throw the Last’

WhoisJohnGalt?,

“True” communism has been tried by many “true believers” who brought about revolution, and it hasn’t worked. To claim communism works on paper proves nothing, even if, as you say, it’s “credible scholars” saying that it does. I’ve read the Communist Manifesto already; if you haven’t read many first-hand accounts of people who’ve lived and suffered under communism, maybe you should think about doing so. I just read one by a former North Korean who was unjustly imprisoned, called “Eyes of the Tailless Animals.” It’s a terrible story, to say the very least. For example, this woman saw her fellow prisoner and friend get executed before all of the prisoners for a careless, “anti-communist” remark.

The many failures of communism are well-known, so in the interest of time I will just mention a couple of them, in the form of questions that communism needs to address. Why do efforts to establish “true communism” instead create totalitarian dictatorships? And why do they crush human rights and freedom, not respecting the individual life and taking even the most the basic decisions of people’s lives out of their hands?

It was actually Roland Martin conducting the interview on the Tom Joyner Morning Show...

Everybody who voted for President Bush in the last two elections needs to ask him or herself, "What was the deficiency in my reasoning process that caused me to vote (twice) for the worst president in living memory?" If people had the necessary insight to answer this question, there wouldn't be any benefit to negative campaiging by either party.

"show me:" please please please get OVER the Commie meme. Pick up a book. Maybe like the work of Marx/Engles and read the Communist Manefesto. It is a work of economic philosophy which, as any credible scholar will tell you, has never been truely implemented. Yes, that is right, the RED SCARE is a RED herring. The USSR under Stalin was a dictatorship. It remained a dictatorship for years, and the fact they slapped on a fresh coat of misunderstood and misapplied "Communism" does not change the underlying facts. Marx's ideas were to take the means of production out of the hands of the few and put them into the hands of the workers themselves. There has been no country where this has happened. Taking the means of production out of the hands of powerful/rich private individuals and putting them into the hands of powerful/rich government individuals is NOT COMMUNISM as written as an econmic philosophy. See, people who are smart enough to go to Harvard often know enough to look past the surface of things. Having said that, as you might have gathered from my username I am no communist myself ... nor do I believe in collectivism as Ayn Rand would say. But I do respect intelligence and competing ideologies as they truly are not as the fearmongering west would have you believe. And secondly, the Decemberists kick much indie rock booty. Sorry all music cannot be Brooks & Dunn.

Obama sits on his high horse pointing down at John McCain (true American, Military man, knows the meaning of suffering and putting himself not first but last) for mudslinging? What does Obama he think he is doing? Wearing a halo? I think NOT. Obama is a slimy, two faced scumbag, who tells San Fran elites that Pennsylvanians are bitter, gun clinging, religious fanatics. If you people in PA vote for Obama you are incredibly stupid. He made the biggest fools out of you before the entire Nation.

I can't see how anyone who loves America could fall for the lies of Palin/McCain. You're not putting country first, you're putting republicans first or your ideology first.

Judging by poll numbers, you are the small percentage that think Bush is doing a good job.

I am fifty years old, and in all my voting years, Barrack is the best candidate I've ever had the opportunity to vote for. He is the JFK or FDR of our generation. Four more years of Bush and there will be no America left.

McCain is an angry old arrogant, rich hothead, who will probably kick the bucket in his first term, leaving a beauty queen as president. She may be able to win over the president of Pakistan with her wares, but men like Putin will eat her alive. Or more likely, Karl Rove will be the controller of America for four more years.

This isn't a beauty contest, it is the future of our country.

The only thing Obama needs to do until Election Day is to keep asking this question:

How Can We Put Our Trust in a Man Like John McCain When He Betrayed His Crippled 1st Wife?

Keep Asking That Question and ... "Game Over".

Laura d
"Obama voted 3 times in the Illinois legislature to cause babies that were born alive to die - with no medical care, no love, no comfort."

And McCain voted to allow their parents to be bombed at abortion clinics. Wouldn't that take out two or more lives instead of just one? Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran... Bomb, bomb, bomb the clinics?

Weirdos you people are! You people are the biggest hypocrites plaguing our nation.

Obama/Biden 08!

"You better start working on your masters degree."

I will be within the next five years. Still have to graduate from undergrad. Definitely ahead of the curve though.

Laura d
"Obama voted 3 times in the Illinois legislature to cause babies that were born alive to die - with no medical care, no love, no comfort."

Get your facts straight on this one... there was already a law on the books in IL that forbade partial birth abortions. The bills that O voted against contained wording that would, in essence, overturn Roe v Wade. The third bill finally included the constitutional wording that was included in the Federal bill and Obama WOULD have voted yes on that one but he was already in the US Senate when it came up for vote.

People who hear a snippet and take it for fact are the most dangerous people in this country... do you know that McCain voted against prosecution laws for the Domestic Terrorists who would bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors and nurses?????

“I served on a board with him, and so now, they are trying to use this as guilt by association.”

If Mr. Ayers committed a crime right now, and a prosecutor tried to charge Obama with the crime without evidence just because they are associates, that would be unjust. But if you work with people voluntarily, on projects where shared beliefs and likemindedness are important, then expect the association to matter to people. Besides both of them serving on the board of the Woods Fund, Ayers himself created and was heavily involved in one project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. He was co-chair of one of its three parts, the nuts-and-bolts part that dealt with education, while Obama was the first chair of the CAC itself and dealt with the money end. The CAC was Ayers’ baby, in other words, and Obama was its founding president and board chairman, and he was involved with it from ‘95-‘02. Obama sometimes reported to Ayers’ board, and Ayers sometimes reported to Obama’s.

And while Obama was chair at the CAC, it awarded about $600,000 in grants to the Small Schools Workshop, also created by Ayers and run by his former Students for a Democratic Society colleague (and in the nineties, professor colleague) Mike Klonsky. Klonsky was once the head of the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) in the U.S., and was one of the first Westerners to be allowed to visit China. At the time of the CAC’s founding, in 1995, Ayers described himself as a “radical, leftist, small ‘c’ communist” (“Sixties Radical,” Ron Chepesiuk).

Obama also launched his political career with a meet-and-greet when he ran for state senate in the Ayers’ living room. He was the chosen successor of Alice Palmer, whose seat he filled, who said herself that she’d attended a Communist Party congress in the Soviet Union. In 1997, Obama told the Chicago Tribune he was reading Ayers’ "A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court." Obama and Ayers also had a couple of speaking engagements on university panels together: "Should a child ever be called a 'super predator?'" and “Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?”

Then there’s also Obama’s ties to Saul Alinksy, the leftist who dedicated one of his books, “Rules for Radicals,” to Lucifer. I believe Obama came along after he died, but he worked for Alinsky’s followers. Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky, recently wrote a letter to the Boston Globe claiming Obama is using his father’s methods very effectively: “I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008.”

Sam Graham-Felsen, Obama’s official blogger and a journalist for The Nation, hung a Communist Party flag in his Harvard dorm room in 2003 (“The Four-Year Path to a Quincy Suite,” Harvard Crimsom) and published work in Socialist Viewpoint. A pro-communist band, the Decemberists, who play the Soviet anthem in Russian, opened and closed for him before 75,000 people in Portland, Oregon, on May 18. There are a number of other similarly questionable ties as well.

California Gov. Schwarnegger just vetoed a bill that would have overturned the state’s ban on the positive teaching of communism in schools, among other things. Schwarnegger said, “Many Californians have fled Communist regimes, immigrated to the United States and sought freedom in our nation because of the human rights abuses perpetuated in other parts of the world.”

There are young people who are old enough to vote today who don’t remember the Soviet Union, and most under 30 probably have little recollection of it beyond that it existed. Under communism, most people live like slaves. But so many Americans today are unaware of that. There’s corruption and brutality in both systems, but there’s no hope for change in communism. It’s pure dictatorship.

blip, sorry my recent comment was meant for GodsPartyRightorWrong.

blip,

I can't tell if you are being serious or not. I sincerely hope are kidding.

America was founded by those people seeking religious freedom.

Posted by: Blip | Oct 6, 2008 5:43:31 PM

Response:

Blip, how can you say that the Republican party is not the more Christian party? How can you possibly believe that it is "blasphemous" for a Republican to believe that the Republican party is not guided by the steady hand of God? America is a Christian nation founded by Christians and based on the Bible! The Bible that God gave the Republican party through his prophet Ronald Reagan, to defend and to wield as a weapon against the enemies of God which are the liberals and the communists and the denizens of Satan who don't use their dirty parts correctly. How can you say that all that is good and right and just is not embodies in the Republican party, when everyone knows that Republicans are chosen by God to lead America? The Republican party IS God's party and if you question it, you defy God himself!

At war the first casualty is the truth. At this electoral race the truth has been killed by McCain/Palin and the Republicans

"J" wrote:

Gwen Ifill: Governor, please if you want to respond to what he said about Sen. McCain's comments about health care?

Sarah Palin: I would like to respond about the tax increases. We can speak in agreement here that darn right we need tax relief for Americans so that jobs can be created here. Now, Barack Obama and Sen. Biden also voted for the largest tax increases in U.S. history. Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people's side and reduce taxes and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction, 94 times."

What does that answer have to do with healthcare?

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Dear J:

This is yet another libtard attempt to distort Gov. Palin's record and spread outright lies because the facts don't suit your side!

Gwen Iifell DID NOT ask the question that you wrote! It is a matter of public record - ANYONE can go watch a clip of the debate and it is clear - she asked very clearly about taxes and how in particular McCain/Palin would invoke conservative platitudes to prove to the people that they are on their side.

Gov. Palin's answer was perfect, and she talked without using the un-necessary "G" at the end of "-ING" words! What really clinched it for me and most folksy folks across this great land of America was when she winked at the end which made me confused at first because I thought she was me and I was her! Then I realized that I was me still, and I knew that they would know what I knew I needed if I would vote for them as if they were me and elect McCain/Palin to let me win!

And everything cons say is a whine, Ken. Seriously, I've never seen such a group of cry-babies as the modern Republican party. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. That's the sure sign of a loser, and that's why Obama is going to be the next President of the United States.

Ken WING

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

sounds familiar

EVERYTHING that the libs say is a lie! It never fails! I've been watching this campaign very carefully and I have seen absolutely NOTHING that even comes close to "negative campaigning" from McCain/Palin!!! NOT a single time have either of the Republican candidates ever said a racial slur! NOT ONCE!!! They've NEVER lied or misrepresented themselves or their opponent! I have seen a true gentleman and real lady who are both decent, honest, intelligent, patient, warm and inspiring who have treated their opponents with kindness and fairness at every single turn!

In return, the Obama/Biden side has acted like children begging for attention from the cameras! They have NOTHING to offer except for a consistent pattern of lies and diversion tactics because they are desperate to change the subject to their old bag of tricks: race baiting, religious smears, prattling on-and-on about who is more patriotic and who is not, driving wedges between the rich and the poor, disrespect and disregard for our men and women in uniform, and utter crap about fabricated scandals based on lies and lies and more lies!

That's all they ever have! Obama/Biden have just been about ONE thing and ONE thing ONLY: attack and lies! Over-and-ver again, they've lied about McCain/Palin and received no response, no counter-punch, no sneers or belittling comments, no put downs, nothing but a calm, respectful refutement of their lies (as much as possible, since it cannot be done to refute ALL of the lies at once for they are so numerous!) and a careful, optimistic and dare I say, always convincing presentation of the alternative!

By contrast, Obama/Biden are all over the map! They've changed their mind every day, sometimes two or three times a day it seems, as to what they are goign to do next, their position, their approach - you name it! If they're not attacking Sarah Palin by inferring (oh, they'll never say it outright the coward that they are) Christians are radicals and whacko fringe freaks, they just make up total lies about her record on things like taxes and Iraq! They do it with a straight face, and when McCain/Palin points out the truth, they get even meaner, angrier and more disrespectful like little children caught in a lie and determined to get their way!

Everyone knows the truth. Deny it all you want! Obama/Biden are trying desperately to highlight their losing agenda for the country, and they are trying to make McCain/Palin out to be "radical," "suspicious," "un-Christian," outside-the-mainstream Americans from way off places like Alaska. In short, they are connecting the dots between their dirty yet never explicitly articulated attacks, so that the voters will think that Palin and Mac are UN-American, hardcore right wingers who just are not like the rest of us!

Yes, we've seen the Democrat party do this over-and-over, every single year. They always go negative and drag us through the mud and deny it in the end! But this time, I hope you like me will not be intimidated by it and will take the fight to them! We conservatives CANNOT afford to let them take the reins of government once again and run our economic and political future into a hole so deep we may never get out! LOOK at what they've done to the economy for the last decade or so! They try to blame US - it is absurd! - they try to blame Republicans for this MESS and we have not been the ones running things for the last 19 months except for the WH, SCOTUS and a virtual tie in the Senate! THEY have been running the ENTIRE federal government except for the WH for 8 years, the Senate for about 10 years with a virtual tie, the SCOTUS and the House for 12 years! I can hardly believe it when they just prattle off with lies about Republicans controlling the government for years and years which is NOT true! It makes me laugh with incredulousness! THey actually believe their own bulls*it but they can't make up their own facts!

So there you have it! McCain/Palin is the clear answer for America!!! It is time for incremental reforms and a return to Reaganomics so that we can pass along to our children a shining thing upon a hill that twinkles when you wink at it!

laura d,
Here is what I was talking about earlier:(taken from the VP debate)

"Gwen Ifill: Governor, please if you want to respond to what he said about Sen. McCain's comments about health care?

Sarah Palin: I would like to respond about the tax increases. We can speak in agreement here that darn right we need tax relief for Americans so that jobs can be created here. Now, Barack Obama and Sen. Biden also voted for the largest tax increases in U.S. history. Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people's side and reduce taxes and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction, 94 times."

What does that answer have to do with healthcare?