Obama Questions Whether ‘Desperate’ McCain Thinks Reagan Was a Socialist

"where in the constitution does it say that health care is a "right"?

The preamble calls to "promote the general welfare" among other things.

It only does a few well to interpret the constitution too cheaply. The constitution was always a guide of inclusiveness, not to exclusiveness.

Then again who needs safe drinking water, air traffic control, fire protection, disease control, and the like? After all they aren't specifically mentioned.

"do you know where our nation ranks in CORPORATE TAX rates in the world. the second highest in the WORLD"

That is an infinitesimal price in order for the right to sell product in a country with millions of wealthy people.

What hurts is companies that want the benefit producing using third world near slave labor, want to pay zero taxes, and still want to sell in wealthy American and European markets. This is an anti-people formula where everyone but the company loses. These are the types of companies that should pay high taxes and tariffs as they are the ones who have redistributed the wealth. God forbid any politicians should grow a spine and stand up for their people, not just corporate executives and stock holders.

tim,

Re baby steps, I hear you and agree. All i can say is see GEICO (government employees insurance company). They started out great, but then increased their premiums by nickel and diming. Then they stopped honest customer dealings and hired lawyers to fight against their customers. In response, Allstate, State Farm and Nationwide got put back on the map. When the customer/consumer is cheated because your company isn't capable of developing fair and equitable solutions (charging more for less is not fair or equitable), the competitors are challenged. Then and only then is an opportunity created for competitors to produce.

Same for the tax argument. When the top 5% cannot produce the wealth/growth that they received our tax breaks for, we fire them and move forward with the next plan. When the healthcare industry refused to budge, we the people moved towards a government solution that will also allow freedom of choice.

Note that gas prices are down because Obama will become President and the oil-producing nations know that once Obama's initiaves take off (alternative energy, biofuels, wind-technology and other renewable energy sources), there will be limited wealth potential available to those same foreign nations. We will become their competitors instead of their dependents. We won't even need to create fake wars to steal their oil any more, so the world is potentially safer.

The race is on, though. If McCain/Palin get elected, we will simply rely on same old stale oil drilling while the foreigners create what Obama has proposed and thereby create a new American dependency on their resources/technology.

Obama/Biden 08!

""the tax burden would be lower than it was under Ronald Reagan," Obama added."

Oooh, I can just see Libs cringing with that comparison. Oh well, whatever it takes to get elected, Barack.

Whatever. It. Takes.

tim,

I think you asked about how the rich stole from us, too. To that I answer this. Look up Paulson's ties to Goldman and why Lehman failed. Look up Cox's lack of enforcement against Goldman Sachs, Moodys and other "bears".

Enjoy your reading and check out what analysts-come-lately have decided about how this economic melt-down beginning September 2008 came to be. Next, research the definition of cronyism.

Foreign nations are now also taking deep losses because Paulson and Cox sided with those that sought to destroy honest and fair investments in U.S. companies. How long do you think foreign nations will take a beating because of the Bush-appointed cronies helped their buds destroy economies?

Obama/Biden 08!

I, for one, am tired of my hard earned tax dollars going to the fat cat CEO's for their yachts, caviar, multiple million dollar homes etc...etc..Wealthfare!!!! 700 billion dollar bailouts for these banks and the top 5% still profit from mega bonuses. The middle class works to hard for these bum's. McCain's plan protects the wealthy and only the wealthy.

Obama/Biden

common sense...

theres your "evolution" at its finest.. lol its called baby steps. do you think any one would have given him a chance in hell if he said he MANDATED government health care?! baby steps. eventually, it will grow larger and larger, while americans "expect" a government to provide this. THATS evolution.

tim,

Obama's plan does not force government controlled healthcare. That has always been the republican/conservative lie.

From day one, Obama's plan states that we *could choose participation in a healthcare plan that the Congress gets (currently unavailable to us) or choose some other plan. We would be free to choose for ourselves what plan fits our budget and/or our individual needs.

McCain's plan taxes whatever healthcare plan you participate in and encourages employers to eliminate healthcare plans.

Obama/Biden 08!

common sense...

you're assuming that i agree with john mccain huh?! my question is NOT pointless. you're just answering with an attack of sorts. the constitution may be a constantly evolving document, but should it be?! and who do we trust to make this "evolution"? democrats? republicans? the upreme court that is made up by a democrat or a republican? maybe we should just leave it alone, and let all of those who dont like it to voluntarily LEAVE THE COUNTRY if they dont like it. just a crazy thought.

ryan...

well first off, as a citizen who would vote on it, i WOULD be concerned on your opinion. its good to discuss things with an open mind, to perhaps learn a thing or two. secondly, the part i disagree with obamas health care is the fact that the government would control of it. plain and simple. just answer me this basic question: why do you entrust the government with so many things? what have they handeled so well, that you think its a good idea to give them more control?

tim,

It says in the constitution that "healthcare is a right" in the paragraph right after it says that "tax breaks for the wealthiest top 5% is a right" so your question is pointless.

The constitution is an evolving document. To think otherwise elevates our country's forefathers to Gods expecting them to know that eventually, foreign-born doctors would abort American people's children in hostpitals for "good salaries" that thereby warrant tax breaks.

Obama/Biden 08!

"for the most part, yes. if we start making everything a "right","

Healthcare in many ways already is a right.

For instance, you cannot be refused medical treatment at an emergency room regardless of insurance status.

I don't think the Constitution needs amending to enumerate that but the school of thought of healthcare as a right is gaining alot of currency with people. You see alot more support for a single payer healthcare system now than you did 5 or 10 years ago.

"where does it end? thats why i asked you your opinions on how much is too much???"

My point was it is not MY decision. Nor is it yours. It is ours collectively as citizens.

I am not sure where I would draw the line as I have not seen something so objectionable from either of the major two parties and certainly not from Obama.

What part of Obama's plan do you feel cross your line?

steal from the poor?! please explain...

Without a viable means of spreading the wealth, there will be always be the risk of violence to survive. In India, a CEO was killed last month because the company layed off workers. Lookup 'Greater Noida' or 'Latit Kishore Choudhary' on google.

This is an excerpt from the news article published September 23, 2008:

"Lalit Kishore Choudhary, 47, the head of the Indian operations of Graziano Transmissioni, a manufacturer of car parts that has its headquarters in Italy, died of severe head wounds on Monday after being attacked by scores of laid-off employees, police said"

I do not condone violence. I do not want to see this country turn into India because of the ignorant few that want to sustain the wealth only for the riches few. The top 5% cannot continue to steal from the poor and drive the middle to the poor.

Obama/Biden 08!

molly...

the bottom 20 percent dosent even pay taxes now.. lol

ryan...

for the most part, yes. if we start making everything a "right", where does it end? thats why i asked you your opinions on how much is too much???

Barack Obama Is No Socialist
What Barack will do for us.

Under the Obama plan, the bottom 20 percent of households in America would get a tax cut of $567, and the middle 20 percent would see their taxes drop by $1,042. But the richest 1 percent of Americans (those earning an average of $1.5 million a year) would see taxes go up by $116,000.

How McCain/Palin is going to screw all of us hard working middle class.

Under the McCain plan, the bottom 20 percent would get a $19 tax cut, the middle fifth would get a tax cut of $319, and the wealthiest 1 percent would see their taxes go down by more than $40,000.

Go Barack and Biden, I cannot believe after reading the above info that anyone would vote for McCain/Palin.

"where in the constitution does it say that health care is a "right"?"

Tim,

Do you believe that if rights are not enumerated in the Constitution that they do not exist?

Some of you may have read the stats on the gap between rich and poor. Turkey and Mexico are the only two that has a larger gap than the good ole US of A.So what is so dirty about the word socialism? Have you ever traveled? Lived in another country or two? Try Norway. They are as socialistic as they get. They also passed the good ole US of A in standard of living back in the 70s. Rave on for more of the same. Vote johnymac and moose hunter.
bj

bv...

where in the constitution does it say that health care is a "right"?