Political Punch

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

Every vote would be politically relevant and equal in presidential elections.

The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes-that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

So there would never be a tie in the electoral vote, because the compact always represents a bloc consisting of a majority of the electoral votes. Thus, an election for President would never be thrown into the House of Representatives (with each state casting one vote) and an election for Vice President would never be thrown into the Senate (with each Senator casting one vote).

The National Popular Vote bill has passed 21 state legislative chambers, including one house in Arkansas, Colorado, Maine, North Carolina, and Washington, and both houses in California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Vermont. The bill has been enacted by Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These four states possess 50 electoral votes - 19% of the 270 necessary to bring the law into effect.

Americans will wake up in the voting booth....and the polls are never accurate as those on the phone feel intimidated and say they'll vote for the newbie radical black guy....and go into the booth.....and don't.....called the Bradley Effect.....so shave off a few points in any poll.
NEVER OBAMA....IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM
McCAIN/PALIN

The personal attacks on Obama doesn't worry me, it will only backfire for McCain .

Please, we need solutions, we need idea's. Not campaign tactics.

McCain doesn't know the difference between tactics and strategy. Where is his economic plans to solve our crisis.

"VIVA Mr. President, President McCain.
VIVA Madame Presidnet, President Palin.
GOD Bless and send you both to the White HOUSE. Amen."

OMG,
She will be the international laughing stock of the works. Is she also gona pull this wink wink stuff at Putin.
Or will she starts mumbling some nonsense because Putin annoys her.

Please, go grab another six pack and save us from your blessings.

grey matter:

"I'm not saying that having an affair neccessarily means McCain is a downright rotten man to the core, but it does say something. And it says that his camp has no right to say things about Obama's moral character when his own has had a lapse."

he Mccains have been married for well over a quarter of a century. They have been loyal to each other and have remained on friendly terms with John's first wife.

Cindy has accomplished extraordinary good for children requiring plastic surgery to lead normal lives... and is definitely not the trollop Obama's cultists have tried to label her.

And his digression of long long ago HAS been played up to the hilt... which leaves all of Obama's political indiscretions ripe for the plucking.

And there are plenty to be plucked!

For instance, his association with Acorn and William Ayers.

His interactions with Farrakhan and Reverend Meeks, and with that other "agent of change", Raila Odinga!

His contacts with Rashid Khalidy, Rezko, Nachmi Auchi?

And was that $10,000,000 retirement "payoff" to Jeremiah Wright part of Obama's earmark to his church?

What about Obama's questionable contacts with Hamas and Hezbellah (sp)?

Why are these mid eastern countries so anxious for him to win? Do they view him as weak? Untried?

MCCAIN AND PALIN
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!

McSame & Gov. Caribou

Posted by: jeru | Oct 5, 2008 4:41:18 PM

Cute! Try and come up with some more.

Hi Jeru,

The people come here to express their opinions not to write an essay.

Yes Karl Rove said almsot the same thing as you do, but Karl Rove also warns:
"..this race is “susceptible to rapid changes,” so no definite prediction is possible."

I'm Libertarian for McCain/Palin
GOD Please send McCain/Palin to the White House. Amen.

Electoral map looking VERY BLUE....

and....

there's nothing McSame & Gov. Caribou
can do about it.......

most of the McMuffin Palinoscopy posters here seem to have as big a problem with english as Palin does.

BY THE TIME THE REPUBLICAN ATTACK MACHINE GETS DONE WITH BARKY, NEBRASKA WILL BE THE LEAST OF HIS WORRIES. HE'LL BE FACING A JUDGE BY THE TIME THEY ARE DONE WITH HIM, AND PRESIDENT MCCAIN (WHO WON IN A LANDSLIDE) WILL BE LAUGHING IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN THEY TAKE BARKY AWAY IN HANDCUFFS.....

Some far left women/men hate and jealous of Gov. Palin and they are toooooooo scared of the Governor, they trash her every day and night.
That is so funny. When some body wrote the Gov will be the President the libs are paranoid. :-)

Ok I add on that.

I'm Libertarian voting McCain/Palin/08
and McCain will be the US President then President Palin.

VIVA Mr. President, President McCain.
VIVA Madame Presidnet, President Palin.
GOD Bless and send you both to the White HOUSE. Amen.

Andrew,

Please post a reference and dates where we can see and read Palin's welcome to the Alaskan Independence group and the announcement that she was switching over to the GOP to become more "viable".

This would be great on You Tube.

Thanks.

Looks like Palin/McCain must have held a workshop on re-typing talking points.
Let me try...

God, god, god, god Sarah Palin god, woman, godless liberals, you betcha, gosh dang, wink, lie, lie, healthcare lie, all in the name of god.

How did I do?

LEE LEE07----JUST ANOTHER UNTRUTH FROM AN ILL INFORMED AA FEMALE.

Voter In America, thanks for explaining that about the health insurance. But what about if we also pay a deductable?

And how much is decent medical (no dental) coverage for a single person? And how about for a family?

Actually, now I'm wondering if my husband's employer is ripping us off. They cover his medical but they take out $11,000 yearly in additional monies to have family coverage. Does this sound right?

The Republicans had it
right when they kept Palin
in seclusion.

Now that they have let her
out they'll lose wherever
she campaigns.

Palin should only be seen
from a distance, not heard.

To ALL Voters,

Obama has been running ads and even speaking about McCain Health Care Plan and MISLED/DISTORTED the plan. Obama and Biden want to leave the voters with the IMPRESSION that they are going to get a $5,000.00 tax CREDIT from McCain even though health insurance cost $12,000.00 per family on average. So, people would ask WHERE is the ADDITIONAL $7,000.00 going come from?

I will EXPOSE the OBAMA deception and lies with the following BREAKDOWN of the McCain plan. I assumed that Obama supporters are INTELLIGENT enough to follow my calculations:

Suppose you get paid $40,000 a year (I'm NOT elistist!) in cash compensation and $12,000 in health insurance. You're with me so far.

Right now, you ONLY pay federal income taxes on the cash compensation (wages) but NOT the health insurance. Still with me?

Let say that the taxes on your wages is 20%. That means you give Uncle Sam back $8,000 of your wages. That's is 20% of the $40,000. Still with me. Remember THAT $8,000 TAXES. So you BROUGHT home $32,000 ($40,000 - $8,000). Ok so far?

NOW, McCain Plan:

Your employer keeps paying the PREMIUN, which NOW taxed as INCOME to you. You therefore pay the federal income taxes on $52,000 ($40,000 + $12,000) at 20% which comes out to be $10,400. Still with me?

McCain's plan gives you a tax CREDIT. I repeat tax CREDIT, not DEDUCTION of $5,000. (against your tax liability). So, instead of paying Uncle Sam $10,400 for taxes, you ONLY pay $5,400. ($10,400 - $5,000). Are you still with me?

Remember that $8,000 taxes earlier. Now, you pay ONLY $5,400 in taxes a SAVINGS/MONEY IN YOUR POCKET of $2,600.

That's $2,600 you can use for other necessary things.
Here is the NICE thing about this plan.
If you DECIDE to buy your insurance in the OPEN market (competition to lower premium) instead of your EMPLOYER, the result will be IDENTICAL. Since your employer does not care HOW you use YOUR health insurance money as long as total costs are the same. So, instead of paying health insurance premiums, your EMPLOYER pay you the WHOLE thing.

Obama and his coons would try all the DECEPTIONS misinformation, disinformation to scare people WHO do not understand about taxes.
Well, Obama is NOT scaring this one for sure.

As for his health care plan, you will be PICKING up the tabs for EVERYONE whether you want it or not.

IF YOU TRICK ME ONCE.....SHAME ON YOU!
IF YOU TRICK ME TWICE....SHAME ON ME!
News flash: We are all familiar with the Karl Rove propaganda tricks. Sorry, they are not going to work this time!
WE NEED A CHANGE..
WE NEED “OBAMA & BIDEN 08”

So senja, I'm assuming that you're proud of the fact that you lied to a pollster about voting for Obama. So much for family values and honesty.

Lovely, you and the Left continue to leave out the most important part of the former police chief's statement. Mr. Fannon also said: "I'd like to see the courts make these people (rapists) pay restitution for these things." So he wanted the rapists to be held responsible for the costs of the rape kits. NOT THE VICTIMS.

I've been reading the "heated" debate and discussion and I find it interesting that many believe the issues the country is facing are solely political party related. I do not believe they are. Yes, we currently have a Republican President and yes, we currently have a Democratic majority in the House and Senate so, logically the fault lies, it appears, with both sides. Depending on what issues you feel strongly about may I suggest that you truly research them and not assume that any media are telling the complete truth. For example, I wanted to know what was really in the so called "bailout" bill, so I downloaded a copy and I am looking at all the "earmarks" that have been entered into it. Wow! Let me ask a question...since it was important that we would be led to believe that the "sky was falling" and it would cost around $700B to fix, why tack on millions more dollars we don't have for other projects? It doesn't appear that the elected officials (both Dems and Reps)are concerned too much about all the money their are going to suck out of us. So, here's my take...I appreciate candidates on both sides however, Obama speaks of change and then turns around and picks a well entrenched(SP?)politician who has been in the biz for 35 years approx. How is that real change? Second, McCain does have a history of going against the Republicians which has been confirmed by most media outlets as well as bills he has sponsored. Ironically, he was the media "golden boy" for that reason before he ran for President. Then he picks a complete "outsider" to the Washington system for his running mate. For better or worse that "screams" change. Now with this said, I realize there are other reasons to consider when voting but for me it can be seen as a gamble either way because we don't know how the candidates will truly conduct themselves once in office. So, here we are about to make history and I pray that regardless of who wins, our great nation will be better for it. Just remember this...a government that is large enough to care for its people is also large enough to control its people and take liberty away.

Factcheck:

We've seen countless Internet and e-mail claims that Sarah Palin forced women to pay for their own forensic testing when reporting a rape. Unlike some claims about Palin, this one has some merit, though Palin's precise role is unclear. Here's the story:

In 2000, complaints about this practice in rural cities including Wasilla prompted the Alaska Legislature to pass a bill preventing alleged victims of sexual assault from being billed for forensic tests. It was signed into law by then-Gov. Tony Knowles. Palin had been the mayor of Wasilla for four years at the time, and a local paper reported that the Wasilla police chief, Charlie Fannon, defended the practice, saying he had billed women and their insurance companies for these tests rather than placing a "burden" on taxpayers:

Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman (May 23, 2000): "In the past we've charged the cost of exams to the victim's insurance company when possible. I just don't want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer," Fannon said.

According to Fannon, the new law will cost the Wasilla Police Department approximately $5,000 to $14,000 a year to collect evidence for sexual assault cases.

Palin wasn't quoted in any news coverage at the time. More recently, after she was picked to be Sen. John McCain's vice presidential running mate, her spokeswoman Maria Comella told USA Today that the governor "does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test." Comella declined to answer questions about when Palin found out about the practice and what, if anything, she tried to do about it. Fannon, who is no longer the chief of police, has not spoken to the press either.

To win, Sarah Palin needs to get super-mavericky. If that doesn't work, she can get super duper mavericky.

Shar2008, if one wants to accuse others of being illiterate one might want to check his/her own grammar usage.

(Clue: Your error is in the same paragraph as your accusation.)

Wow! There's usually a fair amount of irrational, hateful ranting and raving on this site but some of this stuff's completely over the top. I guess it's a preview of what the country will be treated to during the next four weeks.

Lie, distract, divide and distort...the only path left to Republican victory.

In reference to "Palin for President", great vote for her because she is woman...forget all about the fact that she represents a "blonde" tone...she can't stand a light Senator Clinton...other countries viewing this election are in tears from laughter...no real substance on who we pick, but then we cry later when our pocketbooks are empty for mass "deregulated" government greed.

CLads is a LIAR and a paid McCain blogger! There ate many of them on this blog!

What a shame that Palin can LIE and get away with it!

Shame on America for letting mcCain and Palin do that!
VOTE strongly against Palin! She doesn't represent WOMEN at all! Let her go to HELL for her blatant LIES!

VOTE for Obama and Biden - they are the REAL AMERICAN heros!

I don't know what the meaning of a Christian is anymore if she claims to be one. All sexist comments should be allowed after the way she has acted.
Maybe her CORRUPTION needs to be checked out more thoroughly and the ABUSE of POWER investigation completed before the election. This was in Times-Online with a whole article of how her net worth was $ 1 MILLION and her tax return sure doesn't show it.

Estimates Show Sarah Palin's Assets Top $1MILLION


The Palins' total income last year was split almost evenly between Sarah Palin's white-collar job and her husband's blue-collar work. Sarah Palin's salary as governor was $125,000; Todd Palin took in $46,790 as a part-time oil production operator for BP Alaska in Prudhoe Bay, plus $46,265 in commercial fishing income and $10,500 in Iron Dog snowmachine race winnings. These figures do not include nearly $17,000 in per diem payments Palin received for 312 nights spent in her own home since she was elected governor; she also has received $43,490 to cover travel costs for her husband and children.

In addition, each member of the Palin family received $1,654 in state oil royalties paid to all Alaskans.

Kris, I can see why you would vote Republican now after supporting Hillary. Your sentence doesn't make sense just like McPalin. We don't need your vote. Dum McCain and Dumber Palin.

Those two wants to destroy this country and you will help them do it. Just like those that voted for Bush/Chaney after they ran all those negative ads against intelligent Politicians that would have moved the country forward.

Not this time...We have been bitten once and we will not be bitten twice...Americans are smarter this time around. The dumbest Americans I see right now is McCain and Palin. They are worst than Bush and Chaney and we cannot afford to our country to be led by these illiterates.

ENOUGH!

OMG! Enough with the name-calling, people.

Honest question here...if Ayers is considered a terrorist, why hasn't the NSA, FBI, CIA, NHS, (or any other set of initials) locked him up?!

Kris,
you have to be kidding! Nothing has proven the terrorist friends information in error. the relationship is actually solidified more with each passing day. As of late, the annenberg papers from univ of chicago, show a direct extended relationship.
he also has many seedy friends: rezko, auchi, khalidi, ayers, blagojevich, wright, ACORN, johnson, etc.
this man and his wife are NO PATRIOTS. they NEVER talked positively about the country until challenged. No patriot waould say they have never been proud of there country, no patriot wouls stand with arms down and hands together during the national anthem, no patriot would listen to wrights unamerican/racist rants and remain in the church, no patriot would associate in ANY way with ayers, no patriot would go to the 9-11 memorial and toss the rose he carried on the memorial instead of laying it down....bho is NO PATRIOT!

I am sure Diane Sawyer will have Bill Ayers as The American Hero, protesting vietnam war, and John McCain as the evil one, killing viet nam civilians while being tortured in the hanoi hilton, next week on 20/20!!! It will all be exposed.
ABC & Miss Sawyer have picked their Candidate over 1 year ago. They have put their political agenda before their country. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NEVER BELIEVE THEM AGAIN.

I'm sorry Kerry, but you are a stranger to Honesty. You are a stranger to Jesus.

Anyone who plays on Obama's name, and tries to link him to terrorists are scum. These smears have been thoroughly debunked. Obama is more of a Patriot than these liars who seek to smear him to win this election. This is the most disgusting form of attack, and the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves.

I am a Hillay supporter, Hussein OSAMA offended me. I will vote for McCain/Palin. Obama is a Mulim with terrorest associations. He is a threat to the Americans.

part ll:

I don't even know if the Dems are the answer, but, I do know that it is time to turn the page and try something different.

Mission Accomplished

What the McCain/Palin folks just don't seem to understand is that no matter what you say, be it 1/2 truth, smear or outright lie, it doesn't matter..... most of America knows that Bush & Cheney have run the country into the ditch...

Republicans were in charge, and they blew it.
Iraq, Bin Laden still free, Katrina, and the current financial crisis...... and so much more.

Republicans themselves can't stand the name 'republican'..... not that they even know who or what republicans are anymore. Your time is coming to and end. McCain and Palin are just further indications of the decay.

The electoral map is turning BLUE..even people who really don't care about politics understand that purging the government of republicans is the only thing to do.

Watching the panic set in with the McCain campaign is truly revealing. It will be interesting to see how low and ugly McCain & Co. will go.

The years of Republican self indulgence, fear mongering, corruption and fraud is coming to an end. We can only hope that Bush, Cheney et.al will eventually be brought to trial for their many crimes.

Mission Accomplished

Agreed. And we also have people on Jake's post "Obama About to be Hit" who raise the roof with complaints that the Repubs can't drop it, Oh, this old story again, How many times do we have to. . . etc, when the first line plainly reads "The FBI . . . " Doesn't say anything about Repubs or McCain Camp looking into the Rezko dealings. Too many conclusion jumpers.

“there’s a place in Hell reserved for women who don’t help other women.”

Some of these zealots are so hilarious, I would be laughing if the subject is not so serious.
We have a candidate, 72 years, with a bad temper and doesn't know a lot of economics.
And we have a a moron as VP candidate. Every critique at her is being handled as sexist.

No economic program except we are mavericks, we cut spending and we lower the tax.

Give me a break...

I also think we need to draw a clear distinction between the accusations of each camp's supporters and the campaigns themselves.

For example, Obama/Biden never accused Palin of charging the rape kit thing, nor did McCain/Palin say Obama was a closet Muslim. It was their supporters, and corresponding right and left wing bloggers.

Fair enough. Just saying that maybe 95% of Jake's posters would simply disappear if they actually researched for themselves before typing, myself included.

We've all fallen for this madness of perpetuating rumors. I can't imagine what kind of stories we'd see if they had internet 200 years ago. "Washington peeked in on Ms. Jones while she was in the outhouse! News at 11."

Emm,

Well, I have to concede that. I looked it up and it said while there was such a rule, it was murky as to whether Palin advocated it. It seems she simply did not either clearly oppose or support it.

However, there are equally baseless things being thrown around by the McCain campaign about Obama.

But, like I said, I didn't choose not to support McCain/Palin over the whole rape kit thing. I didn't agree with McCain's foreign and domestic policy to begin with, that's all.

From what I've read, he did not "politically assassinate" anyone. Palmer herself said she was the one who agreed to give up her seat-even if she lost.

McCain seems to be the one engaging in character assassination here-he goes on about Obama's lack of flag pin and things like that. (Although he was the one who was not wearing a flag pin to debate, not Obama) Insinuated that Obama and Biden were "Sexist" and twisting his words about Palin into that "Disrespectful" ad. He's the one who had an affair. What I'm trying to say they don't have a right to judge others like this because they too were not above it.

Like Jesus told the Pharisees whoever had not sinned, to throw the first stone at the prostitute.

McCain/Palin cry sexism too, even if you think Obama cried racism. He has not cried racism, he doesn't keep emphasising how he's African-American, but how he's American. He never said stuff like "The only reason why I don't have a big lead is because of the Bradley Effect." He emphasizes unity, that's why I support him.

I am sorry for the dire straits you aunt is in and her owing you money, and I hope the two of you can get out of this.

There is no need to get personal, however. I have every right to my opinion as much as you do, and that does not mean either of us is stupid or has been smoking or drinking something.

Grey Matter, when are you going to rely on facts instead of just following what other Dems claim as fact.

No evidence whatsoever of Gov. Palin charging for rape kits. It's another Obama lie.

Obama is no more than an everyday Chicago politician. His fundraising, connections and tactics are evidence of this.

The problem is not Obama’s fundraising tactics but the unwillingness of the proper authorities and media to investigate it - can one buy his way up to the white house with bundled money from Bahamas or elsewhere?
It looks like…
If the voters feel there will be change if he is elected, they are fooling themselves ow many facts need to be thrown in your face before you suddenly realize that the “chosen one” is not who you think he is.Neither was Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez.

Please.

You're calling me a liar now? I just don't see eye to eye with you. What's wrong with that? I do not not support people blindly-nor would I suggest you do that either. I suppose you can relate to Sarah Palin and agree with her views- I just don't. Is that wrong?

In my opinion, Sarah Palin and John McCain don't cut it. Her views on Roe v Wade and the rape kit thing was not a deciding factor. I disagree with spending more money in Iraq. I disagree that we should not try to talk to our enemies.

I just hold a different opinion. There are many who agree with you, and also many who agree with me. That's all. Are you saying that all those women shown holding placards WOMEN FOR OBAMA or not real women or something?

Diversity of opinion, that's what's beautiful in America. I hope your daughter grows up respecting other people's point of views even if she feels strongly about something, and that you too, see that.

Not a woman if you don't vote for one? Seems a bit sexist to me... Maybe I'm supposed to vote only for a man because I am one? But I guess that logic escapes the skewed version of feminism you propose.

This election is not about gender or race. It's about getting back to business in DC.

I am a woman, thank you very much.

Think what you want.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"- Samuel Johnson.

Just because we don't support your cause doesn't mean we're not patriotic. We have different views, that's all. SMART WOMEN do NOT claim that others are stupid or any less patriotic for not agreeing with them or that they are condemned to eternal damnation-which is what I see some McCain supporters insinuating.

SMART WOMEN may feel strongly about certain things, but they also recognise and respect that others have differing opinions.

Making rape victims pay for examinations is contemptible. How does reversing Roe v Wade help women? It is one thing for her to be pro-life, but entirely another to believe no one else should have a choice.

I don't support someone because she's a woman. I support someone because of their VIEWS, if I agree with them.

You have every right to think Palin is a feminist or would make a wonderful vice-president, but you have no right to say that others are definitely wrong or are less intelligent for having another point of view.

Allegations of John McCain's gambling problem, as well as his failure to report his winnings (and losses) on his tax returns and Palin's failure to report her per diem on her tax returns, should be disclosed here.

To report every rumor about Obama and Biden but to ignore the aforementioned that other news sources are reporting about McCain/Palin is reprehensible. What happened to "speaking truth to power"?

NBC's Reporter Lauren Appelbaum: "At last night's [August 15, 2007] fundraiser with Warren Buffett in red-state Nebraska, Obama received a glowing introduction from the billionaire and pointed questions from attendees. After Buffet introduced Obama as a leader who "can lead us in the right place,"

"There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t support other women."

EXCUSE ME?

I am a woman myself who personally doesn't find myself besotted with Palin's "folksiness". I find it galling that Sarah Palin charged rape victims for rape kits in Wasilla. I disagree that Roe v Wade should be overturned. I certainly don't like abortions anymore then you do, but I think women need to be given a choice, and it's also for their safety.

I support Hillary. I think she's a fine woman and Senator. I support a woman only if she actually can do the job, and if her views are actually pro-woman. Palin may be a woman, but she has done nothing to fight for the rights of women compared to Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

Biden drafted, wrote and got the Violence Against Women Act signed into law. Obama voted for the Equal Pay Act, while McCain voted against it.

staniam: I voted for Ron Paul. I am 'stuck' with no one as I am not limited to the binary choice you suggest. Ideologically, you are closer to Obama than McCain. Why you can't see that is your business, but the rational choice for you would seem to be Nader.

And your post seems to be the definition of "cutting off your nose to spite your face."

Fact Check - Sorry about the late response.

I thought I responded to you on another thread, but you must have missed it. Here ya go ...

"And stop talking BS in the future, please.”
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Ummm, we don’t THINK so!

FactCheck is owned by the Annenberg Foundation which links directly back to William Ayers. That tells you volumes, right there.

Since FactCheck staffers have supposedly seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate and can vouch for its validity, I suggest they give it to Obama so he can hie his bony butt over to the Civil Court in Philadelphia where the lawsuit brought forth by Phil Berg about said birth certificate is pending.

Berg wants Obama to produce his real birth certificate to prove that he meets the citizenship requirements to be President.

Now, you would think that since Obama has produced his valid birth certificate on the internet for viewing by millions of internet customers that he would also produce his valid birth certificate to the court for a prompt dismissal of this case. Not So!

Instead, Obama’s legal team has filed a motion to dismiss. One of the Lawyers filing the motion was Joe Sandler of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reiff, and Young.

If Mr. Sandler's name sounds familiar it should. He is the Legal Hit Man for the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR is an organization with terrorist ties, and has been as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the Holyland Foundation Hamas Funding trial.

Sandler's role for CAIR has been to stifle people from telling the truth about Islam. For example, last year he tried to get Jihad Expert Robert Spencer banned from speaking to the Young American Foundation by using a threatening letter. Sandler followed up by threatening columnist Mike Adams for writing about the Spencer incident.

Not only that, but the crooked DNC has once again stepped up to save their boy, they have filed a motion to dismiss on Obama's case demanding that Obama show his birth certificate.

Would you go to court in order to stop someone from seeing your birth certificate, or would you take it out of your file cabinet and show it to whomever?

"Mr. Berg provides precedents which he argues establish his standing and petitions the Court to deny dismissal and order the defendants to produce the documents in the previously requested discovery.

"The conclusion of Mr. Berg's brief reads:

Plaintiff served discovery in way of Admissions and Request for Production of Documents, on Defendants on September 15, 2008 and has attempted to obtain verification of Obama’s eligibility through Subpoenas to the Government entities and the Hospital’s in Hawaii.

To date, Plaintiff has not received the requested discovery from the Defendants and two (2) of the locations, which subpoenas were served upon, refused to honor the subpoena.

"for the above aforementioned reasons, Plaintiff respectfully request Defendants Barack Hussein Obama and the Democratic National Committee’s Motion to Dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) be denied and order immediate discovery, including but not limited to: 1) a certified copy of Obama’s “vault” (original long version) Birth Certificate; and (2) a certified copy of Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship; and (3) a certified copy of the Oath of Allegiance taken by Obama taken at the age of majority.

If the Court is inclined to grant Defendants motion, Plaintiff respectfully requests the opportunity to amend his Complaint pursuant to the findings of this Honorable Court.”

Please google on Berg and Obama birth certificate for more interesting facts.

Instead of going to Alaska to find bs on Palin, perhaps the MSM and Obamabots might want to concentrate on finding out the true story of Obama.

Obama – produce your real birth certificate or get out of the presidential race and let someone who can really do the job run.

MSM - what say you???

Fact Check - how is that for bs????

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” - Susan B. Anthony

Mariann Pepitone,

I know that. I was replying to another person who scoffed at Obama's taking a day off to celebrate his anniversary with his wife and said something about the whole "God d*mn America" thing. I was trying to say that well, I think it shows he's a man devoted to his family and who honours his marriage vows- compared to McCain who had an affair- and then divorced his wife who had stuck by his side all the while he was in Vietnam.

Are you serious? If you're addicted to drugs you can go to the hospital and take them for your addiction? NO YOU DO NOT. YOU GET HELP. You get help for other medicines that can help you kick your habit. How is stealing drugs from the hospital any better? I mean, you're using painkillers that could have been used to help people who really needed them! Obama had his rough times in his teens, he never denied that he was above all of that. Both of them did things they shouldn't have done, that's that. Cindy's actions were no better than Obama's.

"I've seen McCain's 'mini-strokes' and its obvious that there is something seriously wrong with the left side of his face, but did anyone notice that Palin seems to have the same thing? Maybe this is a virus or something."

Mike: I think you're on to something. But perhaps it's only a sign that they're lying. And in Palin's case, maybe she's trying to repress that hokey wink, don't ya know?

By the way SNL has sucked for oh lets say the last 10 years.

Dan: Yes Go Obama/Biden and don't look back because if you look you'll be back and we don't want you back.

No McBarbie: I didn't know you went to church. God is not concerned in how you spell his name he is concerned on what your do with your life.

If you want to understand what is wrong with America, read these posts.Logic, respectful compromise - that makes greatness. We have lost that.

jc: And just what does your instincts tell you. That Obama is the best candidate to become president. Are you kidding? He doesn't have the intelligence to run this country. Biden will run the country and Obama will be the VP. Biden know more about politics and foreign policy that Obama hasn't learned yet.

jc: When you work for a hospital you can take their medicines if needed. Its not called stealing its called an addiction... Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 5, 2008 12:27:09 AM
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hahahahahahahahaaaaa... really? okay, now i think i understand your method of rationalization.

sp

... and you never had to work hard... if you even remotely had a job to do you wouldnt even notice what Bush has done

A Tangled Story of Addiction: Washington Post / Sep 12, 2008

...McCain has said that she became addicted to Vicodin and Percocet in early 1989 after rupturing two disks and having back surgery. She has said she hid her addiction from her husband, Sen. John McCain, and stopped taking the painkillers in 1992 after her parents confronted her. She has not discussed what kind of treatment she received for her addiction, but she has made clear that she believes she has put her problems behind her.

While McCain's accounts have captured the pain of her addiction, her journey through this personal crisis is a more complicated story than she has described, and it had more consequences for her and those around her than she has acknowledged.

Her misuse of painkillers prompted an investigation by the Drug Enforcement Administration and local prosecutors that put her in legal jeopardy. A doctor with McCain's medical charity who supplied her with prescriptions for the drugs lost his license and never practiced again. The charity, the American Voluntary Medical Team, eventually had to be closed in the wake of the controversy. Her husband was forced to admit publicly that he was absent much of the time she was having problems and was not aware of them.

"So many lives were damaged by this," said Jeanette Johnson, whose husband, John Max Johnson, surrendered his medical license. "A lot of good people. Doctors who volunteered their time. My husband. I cannot begin to tell you how painful it was. We moved far away to start over."

McCain's addiction also embroiled her with one of her charity's former employees, Tom Gosinski, who reported her drug use to the DEA and provided prosecutors with a contemporaneous journal that detailed the effects of her drug problems...

Omaha?! Warren Buffett supports Obama. 'Nuff said.

marianne pepitone

Right! All these obamasnots have to do is read Obamas first book its all in there thats what President Clinton said back in the primaries

1percenter

its you repubs that scrwed up the primaries... we are goign to make sur that you are stuck with mccain.. because we know you cant stand obama either Rush Limbaugh is a buffoon and so is Speaker Pelosi but that doesnt give you a right to speak!

jc: When you work for a hospital you can take their medicines if needed. Its not called stealing its called an addiction. Many people are addicted to pain killers when they have arthritis. Rush was addicted to pain killers also. I have a friend with severe arthritis and takes pain killers. But anyone can become addicted to any medicine. However, a cocaine addiction is not pain killers. That's what Obama was addicted to and heavy because he stated that on TV. Booze was another problem.

JC

dont blame your problems on mccain its usually small business owners greed that gets them in trouble nobody else

marianne peppitone

True... the last week in the life of congress proves that...the two incumbents running for re-election in congress and senate in my state voted against the bill... that says something because they are in close races.. the fact is mondy things are goignto tank worse than they already have and our lives wont change that much... weve adjusted to having less money because of the Bushes... and theyve already proven that Obama wont have the money he says he will have for all this new stuff which is just old poltics same stuff they tried in 88 etc ... they are wrong when they think its just the personality of the candidate... obama is a mirror of Kerry in 2004

My instincts tell me that John McCain is an honorable man who will do the right thing...
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Would you want to be McCain's wife? Would you want McCain running your small business?

If your instincts say "yes" then I think we all know whether or not to trust your instincts.

sp: God doesn't need anyone to speak for him. He can do his own judging about people. To bad Obama didn't think of that when he was attending a racist, anti-american church for twenty years. And believe me he did not like this country and neither did run of the mouth Michelle.

McCain's ultimate failing is that he is not a Republican and he fakes it poorly. He has this unhealthy need to attract these so-called Clinton supporters who had their feelings hurt. Attention Clintonites: she lost - get over it. Also note that most of us on the right cannot stand her or Bill Clinton. Most conservatives can usually take the right stand on an issue simply by going the opposite of what Clinton proposes.

grey matter: Hillary didn't file for divorce because she wanted to save face. But you can imagine what went on behind closed doors. And it wasn't sweet. Stars are getting married and divorced all the time. Who cares. Its how they run the country not their life. Their life is personal and not the publics to say who should stay married and who should get a divorce. Eisenhower had a sweetheart overseas. Johnson had an affair and so did FDR.