Oh, That Joe! (No. 26 in a Series) -- Obama is ‘Fighting for You,’ McCain is ‘Fighting Mad’

Strange how that when anyone begins to ask questions about Obama's past or the questionable associations that have shaped him through the years, some cry racism...They play the "race card...This is a cover to try and discourage truthful discovery! Racism has nothing to do with how well a job they may do as a presidential candidate. In fact, perhaps someone with a different ethnic background than the current administration may very well do a better job, but just not the current democratic presidential pick. Obama's NOT the man for the job. There are too many unanswered questions, hidden agenda's and questionable associations to make him a "safe" choice for America. Contrary to Obama's eloquent "stump" speeches attempt to portray him as your "typical" afro-american candidate, he most certainly is not! His radical associations have shaped his heart to believe the radical philosophies himself. Of course, He will tell you anything you want to hear until 2 minutes after the votes are counted. I respect your choice, Bev, but I just think people need to take another look before they leap. Not all change is for the best, especially considering Obama's extreme leftist philosophy and the views of his 'close' associations from the past...JMO...
MCCain/Palin '08

"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."
Matthew 7:15

"You will know them by their fruits"
Matthew 7:16
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And as any minister will tell you, scriptures can be placed at anyone's feet.

You can interpret anything to fit anyone...maybe McCain is offering you fruits as well.
You will never know...so quoting scriptures shows you might know the bible, but you don't know what GOD meant by what he said...it all comes down to interpretation.

Obama/Biden '08

Yes I know who owns Fact check...Annenberg of which McCain is supported by the wife's founder...your point???

And if I want to read Obmanation I would have to get my sheets cleaned first.
Too much racism from that man.

Some of you would not even believe your own eyes if you saw it yourself because you are too blinded by the fact that according to you, no uppity black man should ever try to run "your" country.

How sad for you because hate and fear eat at you and it takes more energy to hate then it does to care.

I am not trying to change your mind, it will never happen, and you can not change mine, but I will defend your rights to voice your thoughts, then defend mine as well.

Obama/Biden '08

Obama has been stroking his ego and lying to you for 8 years and McCain has been working and fighting for you for 26 years.

"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."
Matthew 7:15

"You will know them by their fruits"
Matthew 7:16

McChicken/Falin

McCrazy/Stalin

Bev...Bev....Bev.....

Give the papers to a court for examination, not a friggin company than is known to be in the tank for Obama.

Come on....it is pure common sense.....

Besides....if his paperwork is real and he has proof he is no longer an Indonesian citizen, then he has NO PROBLEM showing the paperwork to the courts.

Whats the problem Obama--why won't you just produce the papers instead of filing motions to dismiss???

Bev, "The Obama Nation" would be a great read. Really eye opening. That's definately one you gotta read.

As far as how many newspapers and networks (MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ACBNews, CBSNEWS, CBS3, reuters, foxnews, thepage, time, NYpost,Ireport, examiner, BBC and on and on. Too many to name. I won't even start on papers.) a person researches and analyzed. Too many! I've lost track of all the news sources for research purposes.

But this is beside the point. The point is...if Barak Obama could provide proper documentation to the court, why hasn't he? Why are they trying to get it dismissed without complying with the courts request? You do know who "owns" factcheck.org don't you? Why did they not provide the same document to the court that Factcheck.org is showing and why did the court not accept that one? Or could it be that the one highlighted on FactCheck.com is easily forged. Follow the money...Have you ever noticed how a Poll that is released always favors the candidate whose party PAID for the poll to be done. Of course Factcheck.org owners do indeed have a past connection with Barak Obama.
MCCAIN/PALIN '08

Biden A+

Palin C-

John Nichols Reports in The Nation on McCain-Palin team's trouble with the Republicans :-)

In recent days, he has lost both Christopher Buckley and, now, Christopher Hitchens. Both have announced their plans to vote for man who opposed launching the Iraq War: Democrat Barack Obama.

First, Buckley, the apple-did-not-fall-from-the-tree son of William F., writes a column titled, "Sorry, Dad, I'm Voting for Obama," in which he writes:

I have known John McCain personally since 1982. I wrote a well-received speech for him. Earlier this year, I wrote in The New York Times--I'm beginning to sound like Paul Krugman, who cannot begin a column without saying, "As I warned the world in my last column..." -- a highly favorable Op-Ed about McCain, taking Rush Limbaugh and the others in the Right Wing Sanhedrin to task for going after McCain for being insufficiently conservative. I don't--still--doubt that McCain's instincts remain fundamentally conservative. But the problem is otherwise.

McCain rose to power on his personality and biography. He was authentic. He spoke truth to power. He told the media they were "jerks" (a sure sign of authenticity, to say nothing of good taste; we are jerks). He was real. He was unconventional. He embraced former anti-war leaders. He brought resolution to the awful missing-POW business. He brought about normalization with Vietnam--his former torturers! Yes, he erred in accepting plane rides and vacations from Charles Keating, but then, having been cleared on technicalities, groveled in apology before the nation. He told me across a lunch table, "The Keating business was much worse than my five and a half years in Hanoi, because I at least walked away from that with my honor." Your heart went out to the guy. I thought at the time, God, this guy should be president someday.

A year ago, when everyone, including the man I'm about to endorse, was caterwauling to get out of Iraq on the next available flight, John McCain, practically alone, said no, no--bad move. Surge. It seemed a suicidal position to take, an act of political bravery of the kind you don't see a whole lot of anymore.

But that was--sigh--then. John McCain has changed. He said, famously, apropos the Republican debacle post-1994, "We came to Washington to change it, and Washington changed us." This campaign has changed John McCain. It has made him inauthentic. A once-first class temperament has become irascible and snarly; his positions change, and lack coherence; he makes unrealistic promises, such as balancing the federal budget "by the end of my first term." Who, really, believes that? Then there was the self-dramatizing and feckless suspension of his campaign over the financial crisis. His ninth-inning attack ads are mean-spirited and pointless. And finally, not to belabor it, there was the Palin nomination. What on earth can he have been thinking?

Then, Christopher Hitchens, erstwhile former Nation columnist turned Iraq warrior, writes a column headlined: "Vote for Obama: McCain lacks the character and temperament to be president. And Palin is simply a disgrace."

Like Buckley, Hitchens is embarrassed by McCain as a candidate and as the man who has attempted to put Sarah Palin one heartbeat away from the presidency:

Hitch argues deliciously that:

McCain occasionally remembers to stress matters like honor and to disown innuendoes and slanders, but this only makes him look both more senile and more cynical, since it cannot (can it?) be other than his wish and design that he has engaged a deputy who does the innuendoes and slanders for him.

I suppose it could be said, as Michael Gerson has alleged, that the Obama campaign's choice of the word erratic to describe McCain is also an insinuation. But really, it's only a euphemism. Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear had to feel sorry for the old lion on his last outing and wish that he could be taken somewhere soothing and restful before the night was out. The train-wreck sentences, the whistlings in the pipes, the alarming and bewildered handhold phrases--"My friends"--to get him through the next 10 seconds. I haven't felt such pity for anyone since the late Adm. James Stockdale humiliated himself as Ross Perot's running mate. And I am sorry to have to say it, but Stockdale had also distinguished himself in America's most disastrous and shameful war, and it didn't qualify him then and it doesn't qualify McCain now.

The most insulting thing that a politician can do is to compel you to ask yourself: "What does he take me for?" Precisely this question is provoked by the selection of Gov. Sarah Palin. I wrote not long ago that it was not right to condescend to her just because of her provincial roots or her piety, let alone her slight flirtatiousness, but really her conduct since then has been a national disgrace. It turns out that none of her early claims to political courage was founded in fact, and it further turns out that some of the untested rumors about her--her vindictiveness in local quarrels, her bizarre religious and political affiliations--were very well-founded, indeed. Moreover, given the nasty and lowly task of stirring up the whack-job fringe of the party's right wing and of recycling patent falsehoods about Obama's position on Afghanistan, she has drawn upon the only talent that she apparently possesses.

It therefore seems to me that the Republican Party has invited not just defeat but discredit this year, and that both its nominees for the highest offices in the land should be decisively repudiated, along with any senators, congressmen, and governors who endorse them.

These are important statements, especially as expressions of concern about McCain's dwindling capacity and their dismissals of Palin.

They form the intellectual underpinnings for a rational rejection of the Republican ticket by mainstream Republicans and independents--and with it the prospect (though not the certainty) of an Obama victory sufficient to allow him to actually govern.

Buckley actually provides the language for those who may not ever be Obama enthusiasts, but who may be Obama voters:

"Obama has in him -- I think, despite his sometimes airy-fairy "We are the people we have been waiting for" silly rhetoric -- the potential to be a good, perhaps even great leader. He is, it seems clear enough, what the historical moment seems to be calling for.

"So, I wish him all the best. We are all in this together. Necessity is the mother of bipartisanship. And so, for the first time in my life, I'll be pulling the Democratic lever in November. As the saying goes, God save the United States of America."

Maryb...That was brought up two days ago and they did not condone it whatsoever.

NorAnder238...Oh and if you want an open book on Obama...read both his books...you might learn something.

NorAnder238...then maybe you should do like I do..I read 20 plus papers, watch too many networks to even list, research everything 50 times and then once more to be sure.
Obama has things in his past, but you also need to know the things in McCains past and Palin that some don't know.
When McCain hit that woman during the VietNam inquiry about men still held prisoners ..made me believe in his temper and disrespect for women.

One more point please on Obama's birth..just to put it to total rest....

Statement from fact check.....

Recently, FactCheck.org staffers "touched, examined and photographed" the original birth certificate kept at the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago and concluded the document is genuine.
"The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.," FactCheck.org staffers concluded.

Honestly, Bev, my cynicism of the mainstream media has risen to a level that I've become very skeptical of their polls, articles and reverse spin logic...This is too uneven. It is "almost" an all out attack on MCCAIN and PALIN and then Obama get off with HUGE holes in his past that are totally unaccounted for. The media is hiding things about Barak Obama. His life is not an open book, but a cloud of mystery (Smoke and Mirror effect). Palin on the other hand cannot twitch with some media hound hyper-analyzing it to see what she did wrong. Totally unfair and biased treatment! JMO...of course...
MCCAIN/PALIN '08

Proof...that Obama is a citizen...if you care to read it all.
Berg has no leg to stand on...

If you care to know the truth, there it is in black and white.

I am so done with this and it is so yesterday.

I commend Jake Tapper for his sense of humor to start this "O that Joe" series...It's good to find something to laugh about in the midst the political fireworks... :-)
MCCAIN/PALIN '08

NorAnder238 ...when was the last time the examiner was nothing but partisan and Berg sues everyone.

UnPoliticallyCorrect2008...I am talking to you and you are acting like my enemy.

A lot of things get solved by talking...shooting first does nothing.

Even the head military on the ground say that you need and should talk to your enemies.

With no conversation all you get is a destroyed planet.
Then who talks????

Barack Hussein Obama/Joseph Robinette Biden 2008

Joe Biden does provide entertainment. His gaffe's are one source of amusement in our household. What is the guy going to say next? Barak America? Priceless...Good for a laugh, but totally off the bean for a VP candidate. He might slip up and make somebody in a foreign government really mad...
MCCAIN / PALIN '08