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One of McCain's Favorite Democrats Expresses Concern About the Tone at His Rallies; John Lewis Says McCain and Palin "Are Playing With Fire"

October 11, 2008 2:35 PM

When asked at the Saddleback Church Forum which three "wise" people he'd consult with upon becoming president, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., listed among others civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., “who can teach us all a lot about the meanings of courage and commitment to causes greater than ourself."

McCain went so far as to tell Lewis's story in his newest book, "Why Courage Matters."

So I wonder if it will have any impact that Lewis writes a rather harsh appraisal of McCain-Palin rallies in Politico today.

"As one who was a victim of violence and hate during the height of the Civil Rights Movement, I am deeply disturbed by the negative tone of the McCain-Palin campaign.  What I am seeing reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history.  Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse."

Lewis even invokes segregationist former Gov.  George Wallace, saying Wallace "never threw a bomb.  He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who were simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights.  Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama."

Lewis concludes: "As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all.  They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy."

The general pushback from the McCain campaign is that there is nothing untoward going on at these rallies, that this is propaganda pushed forward by Democrats and their allies in the liberal media.

- jpt

October 11, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (218)

User Comments

It is so wrong that John LEwis turned his back on McCain, after he said he trusted him.
McCain~Palin all the way!

Posted by: mckenzie | Oct 15, 2008 9:41:15 PM

Lewis is getting to be an "old, angry man

Lewis is getting to be an old, angry guy....'nuf said?


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Posted by: just joe | Oct 14, 2008 10:32:21 AM

"Palling around with terrorists" is a deliberate phrase designed to taint and smear a legitimate candidate with the spectre of fear and hatred.

Cut the crap . .. Republicans are playing cheap and dirty with the words they're putting in Palin's mouth.

Trying to demonize Democrats or their candidates as evil "terrorists" and "white haters" is really dumb.

If you're actually scared of the Democrats your mommy should have patted your back and told you the boogeyman doesn't really exist.

I'm afraid it is primarily the white nutcases in America who are spreading this nonsense, paranoia and hate.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 13, 2008 1:06:35 AM

Mr. John Lewis is absolutely right on money!!

Mr. John Lewis has resonated the feelings of millions of Americans who hate the McCain agenda of personally attacking Sen. Obama.

It was just a matter of time for a public figure like Mr. John Lewis to come out and tell McCain enough is enough.

If McCain can not stand this, just go through the tens of thousands of Americans who has said the same thing in all these blogs. Obvious the computer illiterate McCain will have no way knowing the opinions of all these people expressed through these blogs.

McCain ha absolutely no right to open his mouth against Mr. John Lewis - he has said this for all of us, far too many than your cronies.

Posted by: Jim, Texas | Oct 13, 2008 12:20:01 AM

GOP VA Chair just told one of their talking points for canvassers is that Obama is the same as Osama.

John Lewis was right.

John McCain should apologize to Obama for his disgustingly racist campaign.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 12, 2008 5:56:19 PM

Obama is a communist just like his hippy dippy mother and red church attending grandparents.

Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 5:14:23 PM

In an interview published in 1995, Ayers characterized his political beliefs at that time and in the 1960s and 1970s: "I am a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist ... [Laughs] Maybe I'm the last communist who is willing to admit it. [Laughs] We have always been small 'c' communists in the sense that we were never in the [Communist] party and never Stalinists. The ethics of Communism still appeal to me. I don't like Lenin as much as the early Marx. I also like Henry David Thoreau, Mother Jones and Jane Addams [...]"[27]In 1970 Ayers was called "a national leader"[28] of the Weatherman organization and "one of the chief theoreticians of the Weathermen".[29] The Weathermen were initially part of the Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) within the SDS, splitting from the RYM's Maoists by claiming there was no time to build a vanguard party and that revolutionary war against the United States government and the capitalist system should begin immediately. Their founding document called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[30] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."[31] In June 1974, the Weather Underground released a 151-page volume titled Prairie Fire, which stated: "We are a guerrilla organization [...] We are communist women and men underground in the United States [...]"[32] The Weatherman leadership, including Bill Ayers, pushed for a radical reformulation of sexual relations under the slogan "Smash Monogamy".[33

Most like to talk about Ayers terrorism, but there is actually much more---such has his views on early childhood education. So many violent thugs surround Obama---so so so many.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 5:13:27 PM

Obama does pal around with lots of terrorists---nation of Islam, hamas, Dorn, Ayers, Odinga and others. Its very scarry.

Posted by: chattyway | Oct 12, 2008 5:12:59 PM

"Palling around with terrorists" is a deliberate phrase designed to taint and smear a legitimate candidate with the spectre of fear and hatred.

Cut the crap . .. Republicans are playing cheap and dirty with the words they're putting in Palin's mouth.

If you're scared of the Democrats your mommy should have patted your back and told you the boogeyman doesn't really exist.

I'm afraid it is primarily the nutcases in America who are spreading this nonsense, paranoia and hate.

Trying to demonize Democrats or their candidates as evil "terrorists" and "white haters" is really dumb.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 12, 2008 3:38:12 PM

Shame, shame, shame on Rep. John Lewis. Is this what we have in store for us if Barack Obama is elected. Every disagreement or question asked about him makes you George Wallace? Good God! This accusation by the congressman is absolutely pitiful.

Posted by: Thank God for Karma | Oct 12, 2008 3:36:16 PM

John Lewis "continues to have the most optimistic outlook about America."
-McCain

oh ok you just misspoke. You mustve meant "opportunistic" exactly like Obama.

Posted by: zak | Oct 12, 2008 3:30:14 PM

""Palling around with terrorists" is a deliberate phrase designed to taint and smear a legitimate candidate with the spectre of fear and hatred.

Cut through the crap . .. Republicans are playing cheap and dirty
Posted by: pefros

You libs are UNBELIEVABLE. You see her stating the SAME remarks I would question Obama on to his face as thought their Palin's alone.
But NOT YOU! naaah you cheer him on no matter what.

You give an automatic pass to Obama on ANYTHING including terrorist friends he had, hate-filled ministers and refusing to call the surge a success, denying funding to our guys, pretending he can raise taxes asytronomically during an economic crisis.. without ever telling you HOW.
WHY?

Are you just all nuts? Is there some weird hypnosis in some of his sermons?

unbelievable.

Posted by: zak | Oct 12, 2008 3:27:41 PM

"Palling around with terrorists" is a deliberate phrase designed to taint and smear a legitimate candidate with the spectre of fear and hatred.

Cut through the crap . .. Republicans are playing cheap and dirty with the words they're putting in Palin's mouth and they know it.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 12, 2008 3:04:17 PM

Lewis didn't say anything about race either---that is not the issue. The issue is one of "creating a climate of hate that seems to give extremists permission to act violently" against anyone with whom they do not agree. For the extremist there is no room for compromise (Timothy McVey, sucide bombers, etc.).

Posted by: George | Oct 12, 2008 2:58:59 PM

What if things were switched around??
 
Obama/Biden vs McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around?.....think about it.

Would the country's collective point of view be different?
Ponder the following:

What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including
a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?
What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?
What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe
disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while
he was still married?
What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain
killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five?
(The Keating Five were five United States Se nators accused of corruption
in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings
and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)
What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?
What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
disc ipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?
What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem?
What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer distribution?
What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?
You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality,
do you really believe the election numbers would b e as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in
another when there is a color difference.
Educational Background:
Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in
International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
John McCain:
United States Naval Acade my - Class rank: 894 of 899
Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in
the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.

Posted by: NIA-New Mexico | Oct 12, 2008 1:57:53 PM

Meanwhile, Todd Palin is already picking out her cabinet and others to serve with Palin in the WH. The "President in the Shadows" strikes again.

Posted by: Jake | Oct 12, 2008 12:45:27 PM

Palin said she was going to say those things that she felt where necessary even if it doesn't exactly agree with what McCain says. She feels that's what her role is as the VP, to disagree even with the President. I think she has already picked the furniture for the White House, figuring McCain won't be around too long.

Posted by: Jake | Oct 12, 2008 12:43:10 PM

What is flaming the fire is ACORN! Voter fraud has now been found in over 12 states by ACORN! This should be a huge concern for all of us! It is unfathomable that in this country you need PHOTO Id to cash a check but you do not need PHOTO Id to vote!! All concerned citizens should call, email, fax all of your representatives and DEMAND that Congress be called back in session now and pass a law REQUIRING PHOTO Id in every state in order to vote in this election! If you are concerned about this election being rigged, then please, tell your friends, your family, to CALL, EMAIL, FAX ALL OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND DEMAND A FAIR ELECTION WITH A NEW LAW BEFORE THIS ELECTION DAY...PLEASE, ALSO DEMAND THAT NO MORE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS GO TO ACORN EVER!!!

Posted by: mfmros | Oct 12, 2008 11:40:02 AM

Mr. Lewis is so right. This is attested by the fact that Mr. McCain has to turn around and defend Mr. Obama in his campaign sppech in Minnesota. He and Palin has sparked the fire of hatred. He has to pour water to the fire by saying that Mr. Obama is a good, decent man. And people should not be scared of him as president of the United States. In other words, McCain is now in a position where he sowed the seed of hatred but got scared himself of what he was doing to the people who started hating or whose hatred was inflamed by his negative campaign. He has to just say to all of us "MEA CULPA, it was my fault".

Posted by: testoni | Oct 12, 2008 11:29:01 AM

McCain is running a dirty campaign for which he enlisted Palin and she made no secret of her do whatever it takes to get her way attitude. It is time McCain drops Palin and takes on Romney on his ticket and provides a clear vision for how he will govern and clean up after Bush. If not the chips are going to fall and he will loose by quite a substantial margins. Even the six pack Joe's will see the bankrupt ticket and will vote for the Dems.

Posted by: gjkotw01 | Oct 12, 2008 10:57:24 AM

Why blamed McCain? I still don't get it. If media did the job, Obama would not be near as a candidate, Hillary would be. They didn't do screening for Obama. If people couldn't see who he is, I don't know what to say. In his books, in his associations, his track record as community organizer and IL senator. His sudden raising to the national politic while there isn't any accomplishments he has done. He got help from Emil Jones while he was in IL senator so he looked credible by putting his name in hundreds of bills( CNN reported this)and now you blame McCain/Palin because McCain supporters are angry? Media is easy blaming McCain/Palin because they are left wing liberal tank. But if they did their job. This will be different.

Posted by: Lisalynna | Oct 12, 2008 10:53:43 AM

Here is why I think the these comparisons are very valid. (1) McCain has aligned himself with the conservative right wing party of the Republican party with supporters such as Rush Limbaugh and others radicals. (2) Sarah Palin is extreme radical for the right wing Republican party. Her husband is part of a Alaskan Separatist Group that Hates America. This group has void to succeed America and has stated their dislike for USA. The media ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC needs to investigate this radical group.

Posted by: Mr. USA | Oct 12, 2008 10:47:35 AM

Comming from a man whose rallies are sounding more and more like Hamas and Hezbollah's "Death to.." rants, his latest outrage is a bit much.

That is unless you realize that outrage is the only tool left in McCain's campaign.

Posted by: Mike Malter | Oct 12, 2008 8:59:33 AM

Good morning, Pefros. True enough. But on the flip side of my last comment about "hoodwinked", Hillary gave a speech wherein she said, "send them a message." There was a brief but heated "debate" in the media - with some gas splashed on it by Superdelegates - that Hillary was channelling George Wallace (him, again!) because he used that phrase. More code words for dumb whites in Kentucky and West Virginia. I turned to a friend whose from there, and said, "Give the NBC art department an hour and she'll be in a white hood with a baseball bat!" It was getting absurd.

So, thanks, I'll take the empathy and let's hope for the best.

Posted by: motu | Oct 12, 2008 8:03:04 AM


Palin around ...

And I can see my house from the prison ...

Obama 08

Posted by: Paul_in_Vanc | Oct 12, 2008 1:29:54 AM

Call it what it is Rep. Lewis. Amen. I cannot believe Sen. McCain could and would stoop so low. The real McCain has spoken. I thought he stood for something worthwhile. Where is the integrity in this? It is hard to imagine that a respected, seasoned (wise? - not!)senator would encourage evil, hate and division in this country. Would he dare destroy it to win an election? He lies when he says he loves this country. One does not hurt nor seek to destroy the things one loves. McCain? Shame on that name. Tired of drama? Vote for Obama.

Posted by: luvusa | Oct 12, 2008 12:56:27 AM

Yeah motu, my dad used to use that expression too and it certainly meant not to be tricked by anybody . . not to have the wool pulled over your eyes.

And it may well have taken on some additional meaning in the black community, I have no idea.

On the other hand, the use of "Palling around with terrorists" . . . we don't have to project on that or guess what it's meant to portray.

So to me there is a huge qualitative difference.

I have some empathy with anyone who really thought Ms. Clinton would be the candidate . . . and was disappointed at the results of the primaries. And it did seem to get a bit rough at times, but way more civil than what we're seeing from the Republicans.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 12, 2008 12:34:44 AM

Pefros - I have no love lost for McCain/ Palin and I know what they are trying to do. But I do remember a very interesting column by an AA female journalist/blogger commenting about Obma's choice of words.

Just before the SC primary, - one that Obama had to have after losing in Nevada - she wrote that Obama started giving speeches using the phrase "don't be hoodwinked" (in fact, he used it recently, too). Big deal, right? The writer said that the phrase was a Malcom X term admonishing blacks to be on their guard against white politicians. It was reintroduced to the AA community by Spike Lee's movie, "X" . The writer explained that when Obama used the term about the Clintons it was sending, dare I say it, code that the Clintons were just more Southern white badness to be shunned. It was doubly effective since the media had declared already that the Clintons were using code words .

I don't know if her analysis is right, but words are amazing things and we have to be alert to who is using which ones.

Posted by: motu | Oct 12, 2008 12:11:14 AM

John Lewis was right to call John McCain out on that. It is about time that someone has guts enough to speak out. It's obvious that journalists are too cowardly to do so. It was Jesus who said that "a tree is known by its fruit". I have never seen an orange growing on an apple tree. Also, I have never seen anything good grow frow rhetoric such as that Sarah Palin spouts.

Posted by: D.H. | Oct 12, 2008 12:02:20 AM

motu perhaps its because the media gave Bush, Cheney and company such a soft ride up to the attack on Iraq, they're embarrassed and are giving out the benefit of the doubt now.

I will say this again.

"Palling around with terrorists" is a deliberate phrase designed to taint and smear a legitimate candidate with the spectre of fear and hatred.

Cut through the crap . .. Republicans are playing cheap and dirty with the words they're putting in Palin's mouth and they know it.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 11:43:51 PM

This is what happens when you let talk radio run your campaign. It's like letting John Madden run the Raiders from the broadcast booth. Unless you are on the ground in congress or on the trail you really don't know. This is why McCain is so disconnected. Right-wing talk radio dosn't speak for all or even most of us. Ayers, Wright are all out of Sean Hannity's playbook.

Posted by: Lang | Oct 11, 2008 11:39:37 PM

Fair point, Pefros. Perhaps the media will learn something, too. From the get-go I think the media was enraptured with Obama and wasn't going to break a sweat to reveal much that could hurt him. When NBC heralded Lee Cowan's admission that he can't stay objective when covering Obama as "courageous honesty" rather than transferring him to another candidate or non political beat, I knew my candidate was toast with the MSM.

Also, I think the media, including my NY Times, was looking for anything that could be tagged as a "code word" and then couldn't wait to wag a self righteous finger at anyone who diasagreed or said the "offending" words.

Hopefully, advocate journalism has hit its apex and will wane from here.

Anyway, i have no idea what an Obama term will be like - so buckle up. At least it can't be worse.

Posted by: motu | Oct 11, 2008 11:37:13 PM

Interesting points sj and ryan. I think you have identified something.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 11:33:31 PM

"It's as if many Republicans realize Obama is probably going to win and they WANT him to fail. They would PREFER that he will be a terrible president, because if he is a good president, it will disprove their preconceived notions. They would prefer ANYTHING over having to admit that they were wrong."

With right wingers its always movement first, Country LAST.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 11, 2008 11:28:49 PM

Do not let Sen. McCain or Gov. Palin deviate you from the real issues that we are currently facing in our great nation. America is facing one of the worst economic, financial, educational, and a religious crisis. We need solutions and action; immediate action to fix these issues for the sake of ALL Americans.
Do not fall for the politics of fear or hate. Clearly the McCain/Palin ticket is falling behind Obama's leading position and their campaign is using some of the most dishonorable, racist, and ignorant tactics ever used in American politics.
Let's show Mr. McCain on Nov. 4, that WE the people, can practice a real democracy: casting your vote, an educated vote, that will only help generations to come.
Say no to ignorance!

Posted by: Gianluca | Oct 11, 2008 11:27:52 PM

It's as if many Republicans realize Obama is probably going to win and they WANT him to fail. They would PREFER that he will be a terrible president, because if he is a good president, it will disprove their preconceived notions. They would prefer ANYTHING over having to admit that they were wrong.

Posted by: SJ | Oct 11, 2008 11:25:09 PM

The good thing motu is you won't have to worry about the Republican abuse of power after November 4th. And who knows, the Democrats under new, 21st century leadership could provide for some pleasant surprises.

One has to be concerned at the sorry state the Republican White House has left the country in . . . maybe Obama can mobilize the youth - they will be the future and have to have hope for the future, or all will be smushed.

If we can't visualize a better future, we won't get one.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 11:23:04 PM

There's a new movie out. Body of Lies, starring Leondardo DeCapprio, Sarah Palin and John McCain

Posted by: Cindy Lou Who | Oct 11, 2008 11:20:29 PM

Electing Obama will help complete the perfect storm; giving one party control of both houses of congress and the White House. The constitution was put in place to keep the legislative and executive branches of government separate; not linked together. People please do you want to turn this country over to the likes of Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi and Barrack Obama; and then on top of that some analysts believe the situation is ripe to give Democrats a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority in the Senate in November.

The last time either party had this ability was in the 95th Congress of 1977-1979, when Democrats held 61 seats during President Jimmy Carter's administration. The annual inflation rate rose from 4.8% in 1976 to 6.8% in 1977, 9% in 1978, 11% in 1979, and hovered around 12% at the time of the 1980 election campaign, with unemployment nearing 10%.

Is this what we want? I think NOT! People you have a serious case of anal cranial inversion if you think electing Obama will be good for this country.

Posted by: NebraskaVoice | Oct 11, 2008 11:19:03 PM

Pefros: I think you are right about the GOP. I despise what they've morphed into.

I'm a Democrat that supported Hillary. I think she was the perfect package for these times. She's been a great Senator for us in NY. Unfortunately, I think during the recent economic melt down, the Democrats in Congress were weak and cowardly. If they believed in the rescue/bailout then have the guts to use the majority to pass it , toss the GOP and act like a majority party I heard one NY Congresssman say, "I voted against it because I thought it would pass." Would LBJ and Tip ONeil put up with this nonsense? What clown shop is Pelosi running? "Give us the majority an we'll be different!" Uh Huh.

The GOP and the Democrats are pushing me into the Independent column.

Posted by: motu | Oct 11, 2008 11:17:50 PM

motu the answer is pretty simple. The Republican party has corrupted McCain - the Republican party has been corrupted by Rove, Cheney, the neo-cons and all. It's become an embarrassment and a travesty.

The corruption in that party runs far darker and deeper than anything you could mention about the Democratic ticket.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 10:55:57 PM

When Obama was born there were still people (and I use that term lightly) trying to create mesegination laws. John Lewis was fighting and risking his life to earn the freedom he was already promised as a United States citezen and that is just as patriotic as McCain's service because if men like McCain served a segregationist country than thier service would be cheapened a racist nation isn't worthy of men like McCain. Race and assasination are the shame of American politics. Even Ronald Reagan was shot! This is not acceptable and men like Lewis and McCain both know it and both believe that a climate of fear breeds violence. McCain is a hero and a man of good charachter. Rick Davis his campaign manager and by all means Palin who lavishes her attack dog roll and has been proved to abuse power over a personal vendeta belong nowher near that great man.

Posted by: Bobby | Oct 11, 2008 10:54:51 PM

The sad thing for McCain is that he has a very simple and effective argument to make against Obama but it seems beyond him:

" Barak Obama does not scar me. He's a good man who loves his country. He has a wonderful family and it would be a pleasure to be his neighbor.

What I am scared of his policies. He will raise taxes and implement a weak foreign policiy. His judgement is cloudy. The same judgement that leads him to excuse or look away from the horrible history of Wm Ayres will inform his approach to Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran and Venezuela; it draws him into associating with the corrupt ACORN racket and
will infuse his directives to the Justice Department and his choices for the Supreme Court. No, Obama the man does not worry me ,an Obama Administration worries me."

Why this fair and traditional line of argument has proved too difficult for McCain is bewildering.


Posted by: motu | Oct 11, 2008 10:48:42 PM

Why are so many people afraid to ask questions and get answers from the candidates.? My guess is that there is a great fear of what the answers would be if honest information was provided. Its much easier to just go along ignore everything, then if we wrong we can just say I did not know. We should demand answers to all the questions about either candidate and the next debate would be a great venue instead of a total was of time.

Posted by: William | Oct 11, 2008 10:28:13 PM

Biden

Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 10:25:53 PM

Go Obama Go! from Down-Under, you have support of nearly 99%

Posted by: pana | Oct 11, 2008 10:25:39 PM

Go Obama! we love it from Down-Under and with you all the way

Posted by: pana | Oct 11, 2008 10:17:54 PM

I am pleased to see that both McCain (last night in MN) and Obama (tonight over Lewis) have started to call out the inappropriate behaviour on the part of the nut jobs they are, in part, forced to represent. That the MN people booed McCain after he called them out on their behaviour only underscores their lack on intelligence in decision-making. Likewise, while Palin's "pal around" bit is equally out of line, Lewis' remarks are also inexcusable.

Posted by: DrPHopkinsRPh | Oct 11, 2008 10:05:58 PM

The GOP should be ashamed of the McCain/Palin ticket and the racist, smear tactics that go along with it. We are all Americans - and it's going to take every damn one of us - to turn this country around. Your nation needs YOU - every man, woman and child - every race and religion from every corner of this nation - throw off your shackles, ignorance and closed minds! let freedom ring - let change begin NOW! Obama/Biden 08-

Posted by: White Mountain | Oct 11, 2008 9:58:53 PM

If you start with the wrong premise, then you end with the wrong conclusions. For example, Obama is a moslem. Next step...find the evidence to support the conclusion. The end product wrong, because the beginning assumption is wrong.

Try a differnt approach. Is Obama a moslem? Is Obama Christian? How has he chosen to live his life? He married one woman, honored his committment to his, wife, educated himself, chose to serve people instead of himself. He could have made alot of money with high powered education. He practices principles of faith in his life, He confessed Christianity. His behavior matches his confession. Conclusion, Obama is a Christian.

Two conclusions. The bottom line, the beginning premise.

If you want to believe what you consider to be bad things. You will find the evidence to support it.

McCain knows this and uses enuendo to suggest bad things about Obama so that uninformed or biased people create untrue stories. The most recent attacks are danagerous because they appeal to unstable people. Enough all ready.

McCain should be talking about how his winning will benefit America.


Posted by: bll | Oct 11, 2008 9:50:52 PM

I think the fortunate news is that you'd have to be pretty daft to vote the McCain/Palin ticket. It would be a laughable ticket if it weren't so dangerous.

McCain is quickly losing it and may have already strayed into early dementia, and Palin is a vacuous, small time politian who lied and abused power to settle a family score against her ex-brother-in-law. That was not bright. She is not a quality item.


Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 9:46:20 PM

That's the trouble when Palin is fed a line like "Palling around with terrorist". Semi-moronic people pick up the line and think its true, or it confirms and exaggerate their own distorted visions.

"Palling around with terrorists" is a deliberate phrase designed to taint and smear a legitimate candidate with the spectre of fear and hatred.

Cut the crap . .. Republicans are playing cheap and dirty with the words they're putting in Palin's mouth and they know it.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 9:40:18 PM

Obama hangs out with an assortment of terrorists---and the Obamabots pretend to be ostriches with their head in the sands. Sad.

Posted by: chattyway | Oct 11, 2008 9:25:27 PM

One person (which I can't confirm nor have been able to locate a tape of which) says something bad at a rally that Palin unlikely heard and the Obamabots desperate to play the race card again----use it as their only example of racism? Are you guys this truely this pathetic?

Posted by: chattyway | Oct 11, 2008 9:24:38 PM

Obama only palls around with crooks, murderers, terrorists, racists, and communists/marxists. Odinga, Ayers, Acorn, Rezko etc etc etc. It's scarrey.

Posted by: chattyway | Oct 11, 2008 9:22:38 PM

McCain and Palin are hatemongers and are feeding on people's feer and bigotry. John Lewis is absolutely correct in his statements. And McCain's response to Lewis's statement is reprehensible. More than once have we seen McCain feign the aggrieved party after twisting someone's words. He should be ashamed of himself.

Posted by: gazing | Oct 11, 2008 9:20:38 PM

I'm very scared when I see and hear American citizens spewing forth such hatred as the McCain campaign is promoting and encouragin! I am white, a republican, but I'm supporting Obama. And, at his point in time, I want to vote for him BECAUSE he is black. I am embarrassed by narrow, ignorant, racist people in my party, and, oh, by the way, I am also a Christian, and Palin embarrasses me! I know of other Christian friends who are disgusted with the rhetoric from the right. Go Obama!

Scared

Posted by: Scared | Oct 11, 2008 9:16:16 PM

"Palling around with terrorists" is a deliberate phrase designed to taint and smear a legitimate candidate with the spectre of fear and hatred.

Cut the crap . .. Republicans are playing cheap and dirty with the words they're putting in Palin's mouth and they know it.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 9:11:29 PM

'Code words'! What a load of crap!

If Obama and his supporters want to play with the big boys they had better cut out this 'I'm a perpetual victim!' BS.

I considered voting for Obama a few weeks ago but just can't stand his SUPPORTERS and their rhetoric of vitriol! You left wing nuts who haunt these message boards turn off more folks than you will ever know.

I'll stay home on election day or write in Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Jean, AZ | Oct 11, 2008 9:09:43 PM

It's geting real nastey out there!!I saw some clips of a Mccain rally that looked more a clan gahtering.Mccain seem to aiming at the low lifes in the republican party (not the progressives ) .He's trying to start some trouble because he's afraid he's going down because everyone sees through him .This man truly has nothing to say that we havn't already heard.Reasonable
Americans will tire of him .I pray for the day when I no longer have to watch his lame adds!!!!
The Alaskan investigation of his runnig mate was needed to convict this woman in the eyes of Americans.She is trouble with a capital P and always has been . Clarity is comming soon!!!!

Posted by: jasper46 | Oct 11, 2008 9:08:05 PM

Troopergate

Sarah Palin hassled Wooten because of personal family ties, using her office to pursue a personal vendetta after a messy divorce from her sister.

Such poor judgement and such small time politics.

If Wooten hadn't been Sarah's ex-brother-in-law the matter would have been left to rest after Wooten's suspension.

Unfortunately Sarah chose to use her office to pursue a personal family issue. Not smart at all.


Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 9:05:42 PM

I demand that a special investigation be launched on whether or not Barry Obama was involved criminally with Rezko!! MR. OBAMA RESIGN NOW! YOU WILL BE THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. TO BE IMPEACHED BEFORE YOU EVER TAKE OFFICE!!! Step down Barry! Step down!! You've been relieved!!

Posted by: dolphins1441 | Oct 11, 2008 9:03:39 PM


"Palling around with terrorists" is a deliberate phrase designed to taint and smear a legitimate candidate with the spectre of fear and hatred.

Cut the crap . .. Republicans are playing cheap and dirty with the words they're putting in Palin's mouth and they know it.

Posted by: pefros | Oct 11, 2008 9:01:16 PM

Thank you, Dee. Well said. The stuff Palin spews is Hannity-style hatred. Furthermore, it appeals only to a shrinking base of intolerant people longing for their days of being slave-mastery. They don't even know that they are lashing out against people just like them (economically) because they are so stuck in mental sufferings that they don't see themselves propping up their abusers.

There is no comparison the republicans can pull to justify spewing hatred. It is as plain as the nose on our faces to see. If the media doesn't get the difference between legitimate critisms and raising irrelevant questions about associations to wrong-doers, then the media was at fault as well.

I'm glad they are changing their ways and calling out McCain and Palin on the hatred they spew. They just really didn't need to go there.

Besides, both McCain and Palin have some strange associations to world peace threatening types that the media has under-reported.

Palin: Mark Chryson, Steve Stoll, Palin's AIP member husband, etc.

McCain: G. Liddy, Keating, etc.

Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | Oct 11, 2008 9:00:35 PM

Guess what...
Jeremiah Wright is a Vietnam Vet too. He has a long list of medals.
He and McCain are 2 of a kind.

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | Oct 11, 2008 8:58:56 PM

Hey HP - it is too funny isn't it, so many people nattering about Ayers don't KNOW that the Annenberg committee was run by REPUBLICANS, lol. tripping over themselves to spew some hatred.

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Hey BO is in Philly today and in his latest spin, now is saying that he thought that Ayers had been rehabilitated. He thought that since Annenberg was a friend of Ronald Reagan and was run by conservatives that they would have made sure Ayers was rehabd. Okay now is he trying to tie himself to Reagan? Hate to tell him but Reagan is dead and so probably is the person who originally funded the foundation. The Annenberg Challenge was pushing a Radical LIBERAL way to reorganize the Chicago schools and it FAILED. It had nothing to do with conservatism. Does he think that conservative people would choose an American bomber and a far left liberal to run a freakin’ conservative project? Does he think we are stupid?


Posted by: citizen voter | Oct 11, 2008 8:58:38 PM

John McCain was in the United States military and served during war time.The military is unique.You must trust your fellow servicemen with your life no matter his race.This is not the stuff of hate.
To say these words came from a crowd when no one knows who said it and then use it to try to discredit a whole party of people is the height of irresponsibility.

Posted by: kdefree | Oct 11, 2008 8:56:32 PM

Imagine what the McCain mob mentality would produce if they were in charge of America. Hate and disrespect from the White House to the masses in the form of policies, laws, court rulings, and wars. McCain got a glimpse the of the America his campaign is trying to create. McCain didn't like what he saw. McCain was for a moment ashamed. McCain realized people actually listen to the lies, and find ways to believe, what they really want to believe.

I'm sorry folks. You're wrong about Obama. Obama is a good man, and he will be a great president. McCain realizes now there are people ready to spill hate into the streets and his rhetoric is contributing to it. The lies and half truths are attracting a fringe group. A mob mentality is being created at his campaign events.

I still have faith in the American people to choose hope. I believe in hope. I believe in my country. I believe there is more love than hate in America. There must be or we all fail. Obama 08

Posted by: bll | Oct 11, 2008 8:55:06 PM

PALIN makes AYERS, WRIGHT and REZCKO look like saints.
Abuse of power is a bad thing.
She should have kept her mouth closed and stopped lying about OBAMA being a terrorist. She got what she deserved. Now she will keep her mouth closed.

Posted by: Jersey Joe | Oct 11, 2008 8:54:39 PM

Sarah Palin abused her power. It's official. She is not fit to set foot in the White House. Obama, the Harvard graduate, is the man we need.
If Palin did it once, she will do it again. She needs to go home to Alaska and raise her kids... and stop letting her husband run her job.

Posted by: Cindy Lou Who | Oct 11, 2008 8:52:23 PM

there are a few scary white people full of hate - but mostly its just the angry foil hat brigade.

Obama is: 1) a terrorist who, at the age of 8, was already an organizing member of the Weathermen; 2) a member of the Rezko crime family of the Chicago mafia; 3) a Marxist-Leninist who believed in regulating and nationalizing banks even before Bush did; 4) the head of a vast voter fraud conspiracy that uses acorns in order to trick squirrels into illegally stuffing ballot boxes with ballots filled out by Mexicans living and working illegally in Mexico; 5) the simultaneous reincarnation of both Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden [besides the obvious connections with Obama's surname and middle name, did you ever wonder why Obama started to go up in the polls right after we hanged Saddam?]; 6) the anti-Christ [did you ever wonder why global warming (i.e. Hell on Earth), which is by the way not actually really happening, started to become a major issue just as Obama started to go up in the polls]; 7) an alien who will swoop down from the sky and suck out your brains. Am I leaving anything out? It is of paramount importance that this list be complete if we are to make sure that Americans really KNOW who Obama is. I sure hope Steve Schmidt is paying attention and makes sure a comprehensive factual advertisement is put out before Americans get duped!

Posted by: Citizen Voter | Oct 11, 2008 8:50:59 PM

Palin & McCain are as bad
or worse than Ayers who
they are trying 24/7 to
paint as an associate of
Obama.

Palin and her husband are
well-known secessionists.
And McCain seems to approve
of Palin's beyond the pale
scripted comments about
Obama.

Posted by: anon | Oct 11, 2008 8:48:33 PM

McCain better win or else we're going to be living in a country where people are respected, no matter what their race, religion, or sexual orientation. We can't have that!

Posted by: Karen | Oct 11, 2008 8:43:14 PM

Once again today in Iowa, McCain's introducer infers that Obama is a Muslim. Obama is not like any candidate before him as he is black and therefore particular attention must be made to the type of rhetoric taking place on the trail.Given the penchant for violence by many extremists it is dangerous to continue to use these virile comments in the campaign.
Frank Rich in NYT's oped today wrote an exceptionally insightful article on this very topic.
One quote was of particular relevance: "All’s fair in politics. John McCain and Sarah Palin have every right to bring up William Ayers, even if his connection to Obama is minor, even if Ayers’s Weather Underground history dates back to Obama’s childhood, even if establishment Republicans and Democrats alike have collaborated with the present-day Ayers in educational reform. But it’s not just the old Joe McCarthyesque guilt-by-association game, however spurious, that’s going on here. Don’t for an instant believe the many mindlessly “even-handed” journalists who keep saying that the McCain campaign’s use of Ayers is the moral or political equivalent of the Obama campaign’s hammering on Charles Keating. "
As Rich notes,It is unfair for any responsible journalist to try to equate the rhetoric on Obama's campaign to the hatefulness expressed particualrly by Palin and their crowds.So please dont do so out of some false sense of needing to ensure no bias is shown...
speaking out against what is morally wrong isnt being biased...its being responsible and decent!!!

Posted by: Dee | Oct 11, 2008 8:16:32 PM