Palin on the Pending Crises ‘President Obama’ May Face

what realy is palins attraction-----she certainly is not educated---she makes some of the craziest statements---she obviously knows nothing about the constitution. makes outlandish untrue statements.when you stop to think about it ,she is a heartbeat awaw from pres. if mccain would be elected-----this has to be the worst of judgement on mccains part.a disaster in the making.

Ryan C, sorry, I don't see any Republican lies in your quotations. I see Rick Davis pointing out that the initial bailout bill included millions for ACORN, as those con artists expected to get their cut of the pork as usual. ACORN was part of the problem, not the solution, so Republicans including McCain insisted on taking that provision out.

McCain came back to washington and helped the house Republicans gain a seat at the table, where the Dems had until that point elbowed them out. Of COURSE Harry Reid claims that McCain blew things up-- he is hyperpartisan. Remember how the dems rushed out to announce there was an agreement before McCain could get to town to get involved. They wanted to be able to claim he had no part in the negotiations. Problem is, there was no such agreement, as the republicans were not yet on board and the house reps in particular had been shoved aside. So McCain comes in, the Republicans make their views known, and things changed. Reid is hardly an unimpeachable source for how things transpired.

I also keep hearing Dems claim that McCain did nothing in that meeting at the White House. Yes, he was quiet, taking in the arguments, evaluating the ideas presented. Isn't that what you guys usually brag that Obama does? Obama, however, was appointed to speak by the Dems so they could claim he was showing leadership ability. That meeting did not accomplish much, but it was not the fault of McCain.

palin is showing the world how uneducated she is ---kind of dumb.

excuse the spelling.

Ryan C, do keep in mind that right wingers and Republicans and McCain supporters are not synonyms. On a Venn diagram, those circles would overlap a bit, but that's all. I am not delusional. I am a John McCain supporter who suspects he will indeed pull out a win in November.

what is wrong wit posting the truth about mccain---he may have suceeded in having his records sealed --but the truth is the truth----mccain was a military disaster.

M=bj,

I tried to post a long response to your query, but it would not go through. Instead, I got a message saying the website thought my post might be spam and was holding it for the moderator. Oh, well. I will give you a short answer while waiting to see if the long one ever sees the light of day.

You asked if McCain had ever apologized about his judgment about the war? My answer is, no, because he has no reason to. He supported the war, as he could do as a member of Congress, but expressed grave reservations about the conduct of that war, which was out of his control. (Joe Biden actually has the oddest war vote record, having voted for the Iraq war before coming to oppose it but having voted AGAINST the First Gulf War that liberated Kuwait. Have you asked him to apologize?)

You throw out several quotes that you attribute to McCain, asking if he wants to take any of them back. I have seen these same quotes treated the same way in numerous antiwar Democrat's posts. The problem is, most of the quotes do not come from McCain. He never said we'd be greeted as liberators-- that was Cheney, on Meet the Press.

I can find no record of him speaking about Sunni/Shiite relations under Saddam meaning they would not fight against one another. I concede he may have said that, but I doubt it. I know that the Sunni/Shiite tensions are a very complex subject that cannot be reduced to a sound bite and that it was impossible to predict before the invasion how the two factions in Iraq would treat one another once no longer constrained by Hussein. Sunnis and Shiites do live peacefully together in many parts of the world. The complicating factor in Iraq is that Saddam and his minority Sunnis mistreated and repressed the majority Shiites for years. (Recall, this is unique to Iraq-- Sunnis are the majority of all Muslims throughout the world and only in Bahrain do a Shiite minority still rule a Sunni majority-- peacefully, I might add.) The conflicts were political, not primarily religious.

but I digress. You said McCain claimed the war would be easy, which he certainly did not. In fact, he is on record several places saying that no war is ever easy. He did, however, state his firm belief that American casualties would not number in the hundreds of thousands as many critics claimed prior to the onset of the war. In a CNN interview in which says the war will not come easy, he did indeed say he did not anticipate house-to-house combat in Baghdad. Thing is, in the context he was discussing, he was correct. He said that in fighting to overthrow Saddam, he did not think Iraqi troops would defend him to the last man, fighting block by block to keep us out of Baghdad. As you will recall, he was correct. The Iraqi army melted away and we entered Baghdad largely unopposed. I don't think we ever did have house-to-house combat until much later, during the insurgency, when we were fighting during the surge to drive the insurgents out of the city.

McCain could not force Rumsfeld to prosecute the war as McCain felt all along it should be prosecuted-- with greater forces and better preparation for holding onto gains. It was not his decision to disband the Iraqi army. he was not, recall, a member of the Bush administration. So I dont' see that he has anything to apologize for on that score.

Oh, and when you trot out the tired old line about letting Osama go so we could invade Iraq-- I have no idea how you make that connect. Osama escaped from Tora Bora in December of 2001. The war in Iraq was launched in March, 2003. And you may recall that McCain blamed the Bush administration loudly and publicly for letting Osama get away. It was one of the reasons for the strained relationship between him and the administration-- one of many.

rodney knows the truth!

"Using a statement out of context does not prove anything to me"

The statement was in context.

Apparently denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

The lesson for the hour? Right wingers are delusional.

think this is what Biden might be talking about?
READ these excerpts :

"There was that sense of sacred obligation that, frankly, we have lost during

these last two wars," Obama said. "I want to restore that."

"But it's also important that a president speaks to military service as an

OBLIGATION not just of some, but of many. You know, I traveled, obviously, a lot over the last 19 months. And if you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers. And I think it's important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then ALL of us go, not just SOME."

Let's read that again...

"If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some." Can you spell d-r-a-f-t?

So we should elect Hot-head McCain and Empty-head Palin to face those crises?

No thanks.

Dont you think Biden was acknowledging that more trouble is probably on the way because of how terribly George W. Bush has managed every situation he's gotten his hands on? After the last 8 years the entire globe hangs on the edge of crisis. Why? Republicans.

S Adams

Former POWS Say McCain not Tortured
Two Former POWs Say They Doubt McCain Was Physically Abused 1999 - March 25, 1999, The Phoenix New Times: Ted Guy and Gordon "Swede" Larson, two former POWs, who were McCain's senior ranking officers (SRO's), at the time McCain says he was tortured in solitary confinement, told the New Times that while they could not guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it. "Between the two of us, it's our belief, and to the best of our knowledge, that no prisoner was beaten or harmed physically in that camp [known as "The Plantation"]," Larson says. ". . . My only contention with the McCain deal is that while he was at The Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted's knowledge, he was not physically abused in any way. No one was in that camp. It was the camp that people were released from."

Ryan C,

Using a statement out of context does not prove anything to me...thanks but no thanks.

S Adams

John McCain himself admits it !

You can read the propaganda statements online..

You can read the NSA documents obtained from freedom of information records!

You can read John McCain admit his actions in his book although he down plays them!

Joe Biden thinks the world will be testing Obama in 6 m0nths. But i think it is a plan allready. We have many enemies, and some of our enemies also enemies of some of our enemies. Obama will make some of our enemies our allies against some of our enemies. But that will be a falls partnership,as they will not be our true partner, but we will be they'r partners, and all our old allies will be our new enemies. We will be just a small part of a new force in the World.This is what joe was realy saying, that maybe we will be fighting for the other side. I dont think that would be very smart,It is not the change we need.

"Governor is definitely more qualified to run this country. She has had experience running the biggest state of the US"

ROFLMAO.

Yes because land mass equals importance.

"It's easy to pick and choose statements (like the one Davis made) out of context to use in an argument against McCain"

What was out of context about what Rick Davis said?

You asked for proof. I gave it.

Posted by: Mike NC | Oct 21, 2008 5:29:59 PM
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These rumors are baseless and are along the same lines as Nazi's claiming the Holocaust didn't happen.

This story came from a former Communist camp guard who beat, tortured and starved American POW's. I tend to not believe him, as he has no credibility.

McCain's story is backed up by other POW's in the camp and by his physical exam after he was released. If you have seen the before and after pictures you can see he was treated very poorly. If you look at the pictures of the tiny, dirty room that McCain was kept in, you can see the torture devices still in place. If Obama were in the same position, and offered to leave he would have done it in a heartbeat, leaving behind his comrades. McCain went through 5 1/2 yrs of severe torture and isolation because he refused to leave after his captors found out who he was, unless the prisoners there before him were allowed to leave. He is a hero and you have no right to judge anyone in that situation, unless you have gone through it yourself.

Many American's have been forced to give anti-U.S. propaganda statements by Al Qaeda on air. Anyone who is sane knows that they are being forced, and do not believe what the prisoners are forced to say.

"The lesson for the day? Right wingers are gullible when they buy their media's lies. "

And left wingers are not? And they have so much media to pick from...take your pick.

It's easy to pick and choose statements (like the one Davis made) out of context to use in an argument against McCain, but I suppose anyone could do the same.

Governor is definitely more qualified to run this country. She has had experience running the biggest state of the USA: Obama has the qualification of running the biggest mouth from South Chicago. Is there any comparison????? I think not.
Both Biden and Clinton have said previously that Obama is not qualified. What more do you need?