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Seven Counts of Guilty for Stevens; Palin Still Doesn't Take a Position

October 27, 2008 6:15 PM

As you may recall, I've been asking the McCain-Palin campaign since September 9 whether Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin were endorsing then-indicted Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska.

Today Stevens was convicted of all seven counts of making false statements about gifts he received from the oil services company VECO.

Palin's statement: "It's a sad day for Alaska, and a sad day for Senator Stevens and his family. The verdict shines a light though on the corrupting influence of the big oil service company up there in Alaska that was allowed to control too much of our state. And that control was part of the culture of corruption that I was elected to fight. And that fight must always move forward regardless of party affiliation or seniority or even past service. And as governor of the state of Alaska, I'll carefully monitor now the situation and I'll take any appropriate action as needed. In the meantime I do ask that the people of Alaska join me in respecting the workings of our judicial system, and I'm confident that Senator Stevens, from this point on, will do the right thing for the state of Alaska."

So…we still don't have an answer. And as far as I can tell, Stevens is still running for re-election.

It may be that Palin is trying to be compassionate. But is that the right political move for a self-styled maverick who takes on the old boys network?

Meanwhile, the editors of the conservative website RedState.com have endorsed not only Stevens' Democratic rival, but that of Rep. Don Young, D-Alaska. "Republicans need to clean our own house," they write. "Washington cannot too soon see the end of Stevens and Young."

- jpt

UPDATE: A Palin ally writes: "You seem to be under-reading her statement. She was clearly making the point that he needs to do the 'right thing' and given he was convicted on all 7 counts, it seems pretty obvious what the 'right thing' is."

Really? Stevens thinks the "right thing" is to keep fighting the charges and to continue running for re-election.

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Palin goes after corruption in Alaska?
Seems like she takes campaign funds from the very people who plead guilty to corruption.

When Sarah Palin ran for Lieutenant Governor of Alaska in 2002 she got $5,000 from VECO and including $500 directly from Bill Allen.

Was Palin bought by VECO at that time?

Why hasn't Palin returned those contributions following the guilty plea of Bill Allen?

VECO has now been tied to corruption charges involving Senator Ted Stevens, Congressman Don Young, State Senator John Cowdery, State Senate President Ben Stevens, State Representative Vic Kohring, State Representative Bruce Weyhrauch, State Senator Don Olson, and State Representative Pete Kott.

Posted by: ohioindependent | Oct 28, 2008 12:46:39 PM

Those Alaskans are the BEST socialists. They have more free government handouts than anyone else. You know that Palin is more generous than Castro, right? Alaska gives out more free money than any other Socialist regime in the Western Hemisphere.

Posted by: Fran Taylor | Oct 28, 2008 11:04:00 AM

Jeeze Jake. She's being accused of being a "diva" by "unnamed staffers" in columns or stories by your colleagues in the media. She's been accused of "upstaging" McCain. Did it ever occur to you that she might need to wait until the top of the ticket made a statement before saying anything stronger than what she said?

Come on...there are only 7 days left. Let's at least try to have a wee bit of impartiality....k? :)

Posted by: Michelle | Oct 28, 2008 10:42:18 AM

McCain has just released a statement asking Senator Stevens to step down. Will Sarah the wonder woman fom Wasilla do the same? Probably not. Why? She's a maverick!

Posted by: obama supreme court | Oct 28, 2008 10:27:51 AM

I'm so sick of hearing Palin, Palin, Palin, is there another scapegoat to kick?
I hope Obama wins.....this is going to be
good.

Posted by: 93mike | Oct 28, 2008 4:09:47 AM

A Veteran- Just checked back in. I agree with you on a flat tax. Oddly enough, (I haven't double checked this) but wasn't Jerry Brown, uber-liberal and MIke Hukabee BOTH for a flat tax?.? or was Huckabee's a consumption tax?.

It doesn't matter anyway. I get my info. on a lot of non-partisan WEB sites. The info. Re: taxes is available on The Tax Policy WEB site I mentioned way earlier in the night.

I have many great friends that live in the NE. Two in the city. Take care and Good Night.

Posted by: just curious | Oct 28, 2008 12:52:43 AM

btw- if I am out with 10 friends, we ALL take turns buying rounds of beer.

A much better way. You probaly won't make it around so all pay for 10 beers. This time a couple make it through for free. Just rtemember who and remind them the next time it is their turn.

Enjoy the beers

Posted by: A Veteran | Oct 27, 2008 11:21:31 PM

sabita
Should it be different for the same item??? It isn't now. You buy something you apy a sales tax. Everybody pays the same. Your income, They pay nore percentage now than you. They pay more. The top 25% of the nations earners account for 85% of payroll tax collected. As with the post about the Dolphins owner. He is already contemplating Obama's victory and taking steps to protect himself.. The rich have always controlled the economy. They will always have the money to survive. Will you?????

Posted by: A Veteran | Oct 27, 2008 11:18:56 PM

also, just curious, who are you responding to in terms of mccain being a socialist? i don't see any comment but yours having made a remark about anyone's socialist behavior or leanings.

Posted by: sabita | Oct 27, 2008 10:55:58 PM

A Veteran, of course, in normal cases, each person would pay the same amount for their own beer. but even with flat-tax, people would be paying different amounts based on their income and status (i.e. 15% taken from someone making $100 would not be the same as 15% taken from someone making $1000)

Posted by: sabita | Oct 27, 2008 10:48:54 PM

just curious, it doesn't matter if it already comes from another source. i didn't preface it by saying, "look i wrote this all by myself!!!! i'm so special!!!" the source explained it far better than i could; just because i didn't not write it personally does not take away from the message.

what matters is the point of the post, which you seem completely uninterested in responding to. can you please, in an intelligent manner, defend your stance as to how it is that mccain is giving $800 back to the rich families, when my post has clearly explained that is not the case? to me, it seems that you are evading the answer simply because you have no way to refute my point and would like to continue to espouse ignorant views.

Posted by: sabita | Oct 27, 2008 10:41:08 PM

Using a a bit of your logic:

McCain is such a socialist that he voted against the 2001 Bush tax cuts, complaining that they unfairly favored the rich "at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief."

The McCain campaign and mis-informed Republicans bizarrely call Obama's tax credits "welfare." Obama's refundable tax credit for mortgage payments only go to those who work.

McCain is pushing a little "welfare" of his own: The centerpiece of his health care plan is a $5,000 tax credit to families. This goes to people regardless of their employment status. Socialist!

McCain's tax credit would potentially go to people who don't pay income tax. Isn't that socialism?

Conservatives are also calling Obama's health-care plan "socialized medicine." Yet Henry Aaron, a top health-policy expert at nonpartisan Brookings Institution, laughed at this characterization.

He calls Obama's plan "exceedingly moderate," noting that it builds incrementally on existing insurance programs. It won't tell private insurers what benefits they must cover beyond a basic package.

btw- if I am out with 10 friends, we ALL take turns buying rounds of beer.

Posted by: just curious | Oct 27, 2008 10:36:00 PM

Jake...

"Really? Stevens thinks the "right thing" is to keep fighting the charges and to continue running for re-election."

Yeah, just like William Jefferson! I mean let's not let $90,000 bucks in the fridge and a 16 count indictment get in the way of "fighting on!"

Hypocrite.

Posted by: Jack Moss | Oct 27, 2008 10:32:26 PM

sabita - you really need some new, plagiarized material. A gimmick - not policy.

Posted by: just curious | Oct 27, 2008 10:28:56 PM

sabita
No I don't get it. If they all enjoyed the same beer, why shouldn't they pay for the privelege. We have the services the rich pay for but hardly ever use. They pay more for not using at all. Have you given your extra income to someone poorer than you????

Posted by: A Veteran | Oct 27, 2008 10:23:43 PM

just curious, you clearly do not understand economics or how mccain's tax plan works.

mccain would not be taking $900 from the lower income family and giving $800 back to the higher income family. the reason the lower income family would be receiving less money back is because they make less money in the first place.

let me lay it out for you in laymen's terms:
10 guys go out for beer. the check comes back at $100. if they split the check up like we split our taxes, it would look like this:
the first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
the fifth would pay $1.
the sixth would pay $3.
the seventh would pay $7.
the eighth would pay $12.
the ninth would pay $18.
the tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

the bartender, however, tells them he'll give them a $20 discount, making their bill $80. since the first 4 men are already paying nothing, they get no discount. they deduce that if they divide $20 by 6, it comes out to $3.33. but if you subtract that amount from the 5th and 6th man, they'd be paid to be drinking beer.

instead, the bartender works out how much they would get back if he reduced each bill by approximately the same amount.
the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
the sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
the seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
the eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
the ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
the tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

as you can see, because the richest man paid the most, he is therefore, percentage wise, receiving the most back ($10). the sixth man, however, is only saving a $1.

as you can see, the sixth man did not have $9 taken from him and given to the wealthy man; rather, he did not get as much as the rich man did because he did not pay much in the first place.

get it now?

Posted by: sabita | Oct 27, 2008 10:14:53 PM

Jakey Boy -

What about Jefferson in Louisiana?

Has Obama commented yet?

Posted by: xaix | Oct 27, 2008 10:05:18 PM

just curious
Do you believe that Lincoln was a great president??

Posted by: A Veteran | Oct 27, 2008 9:50:36 PM

just curious
I understand the working poor, believe me, I do. I have been one most of my life. I saw the same ads as the wealthy. I wanted the ssame things for my family. I had extreme credit card debt that I had to struggle through for many years. I begasn to understand that what happened to me was more my fault than anybody else's. I don't believe in loopholes. With a flat tax there wouldn't be any. You pay based on what you earn. The filthy rich or well off wouldn't need to pay the lawyers to help them. Just pay their percentage. At the same time the rules for welfare and medicaid, etc need to be changed. I have no problem helping those in need due to circunstances beyond their control. I do have a problem giving my tax dollars to those who live on welfare, medicaid that live better than I do as a working man. I herniated a disc in 1995. Without surgery I was able to return to work with a pain level I could tolerate untill it gave out in 2007. Now the joiunt has totally collapsed and surgery isn't an option. I would rather be working than receiving disability at 900 a month. I am sorry to the working people I can't. I know the poor working man struggles as much as anyone. Most though have the pride not to accept your help. I love them for their effort and their grit. My problem is with the people who have been taking welfare benefits, food stamps etc. all of their lives without onbe thought of where it comes from. Give me an email at I would love to give you websites to check and more info for you to understand where I am coming from.

Posted by: A Veteran | Oct 27, 2008 9:37:52 PM

You don't reward the lazy and penalize the risk takers and successful people that drive our economy by creating businesses, thus creating jobs which gives everyone the opportunity to earn a living.
_________________________________________________

I know more "working poor" who are struggling to make ends meet and trying their best. With all due respect, you have a very skewed vision of low-income people. Just because they are low-income does not make them lazy or less important members of our society.

I am in the highest tax bracket and will be voting Obama/Biden because:

a. Our National Debt
b. Harm done to our constitution
c. Our loss of leadership globally.

The "income redistribution" argument is a farce and I have voted Republican my entire life.

My friends making far more $$ than I pay LESS taxes thanks to loophole city than most middle-class Americans.

I believe a rising tide lifts ALL boats.

Posted by: just curious | Oct 27, 2008 9:22:40 PM

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