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I watched the debate and when Senator McCain made the comment "that one" I was appalled. I honestly don't think it had anything to do with race. Senator MCain is in his 70's and he is just old and grumpy. He doesn't have full mobility of his limbs.....and I want a president that can RAISE HIS HAND IF HE'S SURE!!!!!! I am a 28 years old and I think I can identify with someone who has a vision of change. This is what our country needs. We Americans are anry and tired of old politically figures. It's time for something FRESH. All I can say is, let's give Obama a chance and see where he can/will lead this country......

i am stunned that some people still think there is a connection between bill ayers and barack obama. even more stunned that anyone but a white supremest, neoconservative, or fundamentalist would even be thinking of voting for the guy. with palin catering to the violent streak manifesting in her rallies i am speechless with disgust when i read one more diatribe on obama for something that he had nothing to do with. he was eight when ayers was in the weather underground. i don't know about you but i don't automatically do a background search when i am introduced to a college professor. if no one said this is bill ayers the one who was acquitted of charges that he was involved in domestic bonbings how would obama know? he does not hang with the guy and his campaign was started by a rabbi and the rabbi's wife. incidentally the rabbi's wife is quite upset that people are saying ayers started obama's campaign. get it right people and for crying out loud THINK about what your being asked to believe. you don't get to the presidential race without having been scrutinized ad nauseum.

They're selling out of the "That One" T-shirt. They're going for $25 bucks. I ordered three. Better get yours, they're going fast!!

My friends,
My crimson tie has turned blue, like the sky over here in Alaska...where I’m with my little friends the squirrel, the moose and the pit bull.
To paint the now extinct snow over here, I use some of my left over grey locks to make a brush (because economics have turned bad on me)..smash it like so…that’s the best part of it !!..(like telling old stories about so called ‘terrorists’ to the forefront).
And then..my friends.. to paint the bare stone frame line that has surfaced, I use some of the burnt sienna color of my young ignorant friend over here, who by the way doesn’t know that the cause of the ice melting and climate change in her home state of Alaska is manmade.
Ok..my friends, this was the last episode of painting the nation’s budget in RED (and of Republicans ever being elected in the USA again)…God Bless & Good Night, my friends. RIP, JR.

Obama whines and cries about everything and will use the race card while he is whining. Obama is wearing a HALO FOR GOD'S SAKE. What a hypocrite, he is just a slimy, two faced politican. He tells the San Fran elite that Pennsylvanian's are bitter, gun clinging, racists .. then he comes to PA to suck up. People of PA, do not forget the remarks this man made about you. This is what he thinks of the people of Pennsylvania.
I suppose THOSE REMARKS ARE OK?

John McCain would never say such harsh remarks about American people. This is a good example of Obama's judgement and what he thinks in his heart. He thinks he is above the working class. Don't reward him with your votes.

Bob

I heard it again on on Larry King and Mccain was trying to be humorous but both candidates lack humor especially Obama... Ive had it with this trying not to lose... its gort to be bad when Michele seems like the same one at this point

I said this in another thread and I'll say it here: There was nothing racist about "that one" as some would suggest. It did sound like a very frustrated and bitter opponent who was desperate. I ask this: If the pressure of the election is getting to McCain enough to make dumb mistakes like this, then how would he handle the pressures of being president?

I betcha "empty head" at least knows it's spelled Barack.

John McCain is an angry, despondent, bitter old man. His campaign is going down the drain fast. He and his empty head beauty queen, Sarah Palin, have no choice but resort to hauling insults at Barrak Obama. Shame on them.

Correction! I believe that Obama refers to McCain as "this guy". Thats probably very important to some of you.

It was ok for Obama to call McCain "that guy" earlier in debate, so
whats wrong with McCain calling Obama
"that one"???? And what's wrong with
Obamas full name, he likes it or he wouldn't have it. Getting very tired of
Obama camp crying and the media making
big deal of it and obviously reporting
in a very biased way. Obama camp and the media Watch out for the silent majority, you are really stirring us up and this could cause your candidate votes.

Pamela, I have looked at the birth certificate, just a couple days ago.
This certificate looks like one you could buy at the office supply and complete as you see fit, or it is just a certification of birth. Most birth certificates list, doctor and the doctor's signature. Have you looked at McCain's, to see if there is a difference?

I want you to tell me that they are not going to send checks to the 40% that do not pay taxes. I don't care if it is on the web, anyone can put anything on the web. That is a place I do not believe anything I read about any subject.

And another thing...Obama is way smarter than John McCain. McCain isn't dumb like Bush is dumb, but Obama has a robust, formidable intelligence that McCain doesn't even sniff. Republicans can call it elitist to be smart and educated if they want but I'd be embarrassed if my presidential campaign finished 894th out of a class of 899 and my VP candidate flunked out of 3 or 4 junior colleges and is married to a "First Dude" that didn't go to college at all (not that that's bad) and was a member of a political party that advocated secession from the U.S.

Posted by: mbdsta | Oct 8, 2008 2:45:25 PM
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I know lots of folks that didn't graduate from college, and some that didn't finish in the top 10., and they have done quite well. It doesn't seem to matter when you go to Washington if you are educated...that is where they pull some of the most stupid stunts imaginable. Maybe we would be better off if we let some ordinary folks take the helm for awhile, who knows; maybe they could do the job of an ordinary citizen. As ordinary citizens we seem to solve problems that they in Washington don't seem to have a clue. "McCain doesn't even sniff", maybe that is the problem and that is why obama is so robust, hum..
Right about now secession doesn't seem like a bad idea. Don't know if this is true about the "First Dude", but think his association to that group doesn't even compare to an associate like that of bomber Ayers, and others.

sad, pookie, sad.... the birth cert. is on the website: c'mon, you know better than that.
The tax cut plan is also on the website.
I think you would actually find it quite refreshing as a analytical to see detailed and laid out (at least for this stage)plan that can show you, me , and everyone who got torqed this week or two , how we are going to get back on the right track.
It is a well read plan, and I am also happy to recommend his healthcare plan to you. Especially as a healthcare professional, you will be delighted to see that you wont' have to concern yourself with no-pay clients who need life-saving surgery.
Instead of working for the "drug-dealers" ha ha, who show up with their fancy briefs, and "recommendations" you will be able to actually be a Dr..... no more working with your "hands tied" to the medical insurance and pharmaceuticals industry. Unless you actually enjoyed that.

Obama DID vote for the Cheney energy bill. Obama DID lie in Iowa about having "passed" nuclear bill which in fact was gutted by his pals at Exelon and did NOT pass -- and when he "won" in Iowa, by lying, the media proclaimed him a "phenomenon".

Obama's more of a neocon than McCain is.
He "won" the nomination of the hijacked Democrats through fraud, and if he seizes state power, we will ALL regret it.

One thing about a Republican administration: you can still talk back to it. With a Stalinist coup for which Obama's the figurehead, NOBODY will be talking back. Notice how the mainstream media ALREADY isn't ...

"I am a brain surgeon. Didn't obama say he was going to give a tax cut to 95% of the American people"

Yes he did.

And he has been referencing the American working family and how his tax plan benefits them.

Right wingers who pretend they are smart like to play semantic games with the statement. But these are usually the same people that make the argument that McCain was referencing the American worker when he said the fundamentals of this economy are strong.

So their credibility is zero.

Obama's tax plan gives fare4 more of a tax cut to families making less than $200K than McCain's.

Obama's tax plan raises payrool taxes on those making $200K+ and income taxes on those making $250K+

It includes tax credits for health care for small businesses.

I am a Republican but that moment during the debate even made me wince. I honestly don't get those individuals here who pass it off as some small insignificant occurrence. Calling Sen. Obama "That One" was demeaning, insulting, and incredibly disrespectful. I think that our next president should have more self control and foresight than what Sen. McCain has shown during this election. Sen. McCain is looking more like George Wallace every day and should be ashamed of himself.

As far as Gov. Palin, she is obviously a self-serving, small-minded racist. by allowing her rallies to take on such overtones is inexcusable. I would also have to question any citizens that would allow themselves to be sucked into her vortex of racism and xenophobia.

For the first time since I've started voting, I am truly ashamed of my party.

And another thing...Obama is way smarter than John McCain. McCain isn't dumb like Bush is dumb, but Obama has a robust, formidable intelligence that McCain doesn't even sniff. Republicans can call it elitist to be smart and educated if they want but I'd be embarrassed if my presidential campaign finished 894th out of a class of 899 and my VP candidate flunked out of 3 or 4 junior colleges and is married to a "First Dude" that didn't go to college at all (not that that's bad) and was a member of a political party that advocated secession from the U.S.

Pookie:
I am actually schooled in poli-sci, and pscy.... I think that the fact that you are standing up for JM after he point blank counter-manded himself, several times last night, and repeatedly attempted to perpetuate the same lie about Obamas tax plan, and what he said about Pakistan (point blank, and with no ambiguity) over and over is commedable. Sad, but commendable.

Posted by: pamela | Oct 8, 2008 2:27:57 PM
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I am a brain surgeon. Didn't obama say he was going to give a tax cut to 95% of the American people? He didn't come right out and say he was going to issue a check to the 40% that don't pay taxes, but that seems to be the plan.
Where is this money coming from, guess you must be going to foot the bill since you probably haven't lost any money in the past few days.
This guy is dangerous, this country does not need him. As bad as you think McCain is, he hasn't had friends like obama has and he released his "real" birth certificate.

I'm a black male, but not one of those 'cry-wolf/everything-is-racist' types. I tend to give people speaking off the cuff a bit of leeway in the words they choose and I save my accusations of racism for when it's clear.

This lets some people off the hook b/c polished politicians know how to use loaded language rather than clumsy racial epithets, and they frequently get away with it. But at least I avoid accusing people of racism that don't deserve it.

With McCain and his 'that one' comment there's a few things that should be noted.

1) McCain is the one that said Obama should be very careful with every word he utters. If McCain's going to turn 'lipstick on a pig' into a sexist attack when it clearly wasn't, Republicans shouldn't belly-ache about 'that one' being questioned as racist. Many black AND white people raised an eyebrow when he said it. We're not making it up (in fact, we're responding to a CBS article written about it). Stop trying to let the old dude off the hook. He's the one that started it.

2) McCain said openly that he was going to attack Barack's character. That suggests aforethought. Maybe it was an accident, but 'that one' was definitely a loaded word--maybe not racist, but at least racially insensitive, like 'uppity' is. If he's going to telegraph his personal attacks, he should be accountable if they come across as racist. Again, Republicans, stop belly-aching.

3) We don't go around calling him 'John Sidney McCain' because it would be stupid and awkward, so why does McCain's camp/surrogates keep calling him 'Barack Hussein Obama'? This is not deep insight obviously, we know why. I only mention it because it's SO sophomoric and basic and clumsy, that it's preposterous that grown-ups not named Karl Rove would resort to it. It would be laughable except that it's so insidious. And the worst part is, there are dumb people out there that go for the head-fake, and it gives people that are inclined towards racist views license to act and speak on them. If John Sidney McCain was a principled man, he wouldn't allow that crap. Too bad he isn't.

4) All Republicans are racist and so is everything they say (just kidding...a little Al Sharpton humor never hurt nobody).

Senator McCain should be ashamed! I am embarassed for him that he should refer to a fellow Senator in a public debate as "that one". I had thought I could live with McCain as president (if he should win) but since he has shown such disrepect for Senator Obama and since he disrespected the country by choosing Sarah Palin as his running mate, it will be a sad, sad day for this country if he were to win.

Posted by: Grandma | Oct 8, 2008 2:19:35 PM
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Grandma, if that is your only reason for not voting for John McCain, I am glad I am not your grandchild. Think of what my life will be like if obama is elected president. You are "spitting in the wind" if you think Joe Biden will be anything other than the same old Washington politician vs Sarah Palin.

Pookie:
I am actually schooled in poli-sci, and pscy.... I think that the fact that you are standing up for JM after he point blank counter-manded himself, several times last night, and repeatedly attempted to perpetuate the same lie about Obamas tax plan, and what he said about Pakistan (point blank, and with no ambiguity) over and over is commedable. Sad, but commendable.

Senator McCain should be ashamed! I am embarassed for him that he should refer to a fellow Senator in a public debate as "that one". I had thought I could live with McCain as president (if he should win) but since he has shown such disrepect for Senator Obama and since he disrespected the country by choosing Sarah Palin as his running mate, it will be a sad, sad day for this country if he were to win.

I had a knee jerk reaction last night when I heard that comment, and the finger point. I just felt it. Not that I had a second to "analyze", or even say well, it's just this, or that.
Now also imagine Mcsame doing THAT at a conference with like,.... North Korea, or Pakistan, or Spain. Oh, wait a minute.
I forgot. He won't even speak to them.

Posted by: pamela | Oct 8, 2008 2:01:42 PM

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If you had not been schooled in racism you would not have noticed 'that one' comment. I am black and I was paying attention to the speech for more comments of substance than name calling.
If you are for Obama you should be listening for just what he will do for the country, and it isn't what you think you are hearing.

I've read so many of these posts, and I'll jsut throw this out.
Let's say, you're a black man sitting in a room full of folks, in a dominatly conservative and old school folks.
you make a comment like the one mentioned before, and point to the white guy and say "that one". How do you think all the other white guys in that room will instantly feel. REGARDLESS of what was meant, jsut the automatic knee jerk response.
Now, I am caucasion.
I had a knee jerk reaction last night when I heard that comment, and the finger point. I just felt it. Not that I had a second to "analyze", or even say well, it's just this, or that.
Now also imagine Mcsame doing THAT at a conference with like,.... North Korea, or Pakistan, or Spain. Oh, wait a minute.
I forgot. He won't even speak to them.

hey, INDYVOTER.......since your most recent comment doesn't make much sense, I really can't comment on it, so I will let it pass......sorry can't hang around for your next gem.....I'm heading out now to save the economy of the country.....or as Obama would say,
",,,,of the world.! Bye now.

hey, INDYVOTER.......since your most recent comment doesn't make much sense, I really can't comment on it, so I will let it pass......sorry can't hang around for your next gem.....I'm heading out now to save the economy of the country.....or as Obama would say,
",,,,of the world.! Bye now.

I just seem to find it rather strange that Palin was in FL and after her remarks

"Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."

She did not find it needed to say anything against the racial slurs, she just went on with her speach. And now McCain has pointed out "that one". I can't help but think that they are trying to play on the fears of the American people by pointing out that
"that one---'racial slur' is Dangerous"
Even with his Harvard education.
I am very ashamed.

You guys should hear yourselves; you sound like kindegarten arguing over crayolas. This is our lives, 'that one' is not the one to run our country.
McCain is not perfect, but if the red phone rings you better hope he is there to answer it. Don't need your comments about that remark, because I can have my opinion, goodness knows each of you has yours. If it had been a republican having all these things in their past cyberspace would be overloaded with democrats not just smearing they would be pouring by bucket loads to make damn sure everyone knows what kind of savory characters he had been associating with. I am black and I hope that when these obama lovers get into the voting booth they will realize they have nothing to apoligize for and he is not the man to run this country.

justj joey,

It is not black\white thing. It is simply a dis-respect for sitting United States Senator. Is it being blown out of proportion? Sure. But that is what campaigns do. Republicans are guilty too for assuming it is race baiting. It is simply an insensitive remark from an insensitive Senator who, while he should no better, has a long history of making insensitive remarks when getting a bit riled. It goes to temperment and judgement. The remark re-inforces people's belief McCain has neither.

You guys should hear yourselves; you sound like kindegarten arguing over crayolas. This is our lives, 'that one' is not the one to run our country.
McCain is not perfect, but if the red phone rings you better hope he is there to answer it. Don't need your comments about that remark, because I can have my opinion, goodness knows each of you has yours. If it had been a republican having all these things in their past cyberspace would be overloaded with democrats not just smearing they would be pouring by bucket loads to make damn sure everyone knows what kind of savory characters he had been associating with. I am black and I hope that when these obama lovers get into the voting booth they will realize they have nothing to apoligize for and he is not the man to run this country.

I wouldn't vote for the Republican ticket if McCain was running for dog catcher and Palin was the pit bull he was chasing. I'm fed up with them.

Hey, Jake...it looks like your readers may have missed out on my great comments shortly after the debate last night. I wrote out my sagacious analysis ..... and never got the "Post" box...in looking over the comments this morning, it almost looks like several of your responders were having a private conversation with each other...please advise me how to do that, would you? In any event, my comments were so good, I thought they bear repeating. I was interested in learning last night that Burton...don't know his first name, let's just call him "that" Burton...apparently the Obama campaign's communicator with the media...had an email out to you folks even before the debate was over.....suggesting that there was something sinister about McCain's use of referring to the other guy as "that one." Have you ever noticed how often the playing of the "race card" is done by the Obama...not the McCain...campaign? Can't figure this one out...Obama isnot Black...he isnot
Afro-American...he isnot White..and if our media analysts would do their homework, they would know that Obama is BI-RACIAL...no big deal in that...he is part white and part black, with neither part being the dominant side. All the media ignores that terminology...the correct terminology...unless they are in cahoots with the Obama campaign...again, it is the Obama campaign...with its Burtons and Axelrods that play the race card every once in awhile. Gee, did you ever wonder...or analyze...why they might do that? Just look at some of the responses from folks you have attached to this article and I think you easily will be able to see their reasoning.
Hell....white vs. black...black vs. black...pity poor Barack...how we are picking on him because of color....but wait a minute, I just explained that he isn't black...he isn't white, so what gives.

What we have is sleazy electioneering by Obama's handlers, and lousy digging into the story by "analysts."

2+2 can = 4 ....or 22, depending how you look at it!

Emm,

I don't think many people would have pounced on it if McCain hadn't in the previous debate seemed to be really angry with Obama and snickering when Obama was talking, in addition to not looking at him the whole while. Not to mention he refused to shake Obama's hand after the second debate and got Cindy to shake it instead.

If hadn't done all of that, I'm sure people would probably taking as a misconstruing of words, not a sign of contempt. I found it rather condescending that McCain kept saying Obama didn't understand this or that. Well, Obama had a good reply in my opinion: You're right. I don't understand how we ended up invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. Not to mention McCain kept walking around when Obama was talking. Rather distracting.

The issue is McCain seems to be quite peevish and grumpy these days- and he's letting it show too plainly.

The voters awarded Obama the “win” (38% to 30%, with the rest choosing no clear winner). But that result was actually the least useful of the evening. Because while the earlier debate did not result in any net change in support for the two candidates, Obama walked away with a clear lead in new voters tonight. After the debate ended, 26% of the audience had become McCain supporters while 42% said they planned to vote for Obama. Only a quarter of the group was still undecided.

Even more dramatic was the shift in the voters’ personal reactions to the two candidates. Before the debate, McCain had a 48/46 favorability rating; that improved to 56/36 by the end. But that’s about where Obama started the evening—54/36. After an hour and a half, Obama’s favorability numbers were 80/14. As Joe Biden would say, let me repeat that: 80% of the undecided voters had favorable views of Obama and only 14% saw him negatively for a net rating of +66. Not even Bill Clinton got such a warm response in town hall formats.

"Sen McCain was an officer and he was born in a period of MANNORS."

If indeed there was some disrespect intended, and not an innocent use of two words we use everyday when referring to that one and not this one, he probably picked it up from Obama's comment on Hillary as "likable enough."

Seriously, this is the most trivial whine in the history of mankind, but yet again, the Dems have managed to outdo themselves this time.

Emm,

1. Yes, it's true we don't know the extent. We can't read his mind, but we can watch his actions. And more then anything, Obama seems to be more of a peacemaker then McCain. If anything, Ayer's violent methods seemed have influenced him that it is NOT the way to go. Ayers is no longer spouting his radical govt takeover views. Obama hasn't "followed" him. They just served on the same committee, and Obama has condemned Ayer's acts of violence.

2. He has not deflected the questions- he has indeed answered them. He said he condemned Ayer's acts of violence. He said it was true he had known and worked with Ayers, but not that he had shared his views. Now, he was serving on the board of a charity. If he had gone into some business partnership with Ayers, that would be different.

3. It's not true that Obama worked for ACORN in the first place. Project Vote was not under ACORN in the first place. The only association Obama has with ACORN is that he helped represent them as a lawyer against the state of Illinois in successful lawsuit alongside the U.S. Department of Justice to force state compliance with a federal voting access law.

You can rest easy. Even if you don't agree with Obama's views, he's no dangerous terrorist or terrorist sympathizer nor does he intend to make America a socialist country :)

Yeh, too bad they won't work, as evidenced by the continued fall of the Dow in response to these bright ideas.

Sen McCain was an officer and he was born in a period of MANNORS.

I guess he has lost all of those along with his commoon sense.

How dare he be so rude as to address Senator Obama as: "That One"

Did you all watch the debate last night? Obama explained what he'll do for America if he's elected, while McCain literally danced around the stage. Town Hall format & Obama knocked him out again. Sorry McCain having an attitude just helps us, keep up the good work. See you in the Senate next year.

Obama 2 - McCain 0

Obama/Biden the coolest ticket in town

"What is important that Obama was not engaged in any wrong doing, nor has he ever supported Ayer's acts of violence."

Grey, we don't know this as fact. We also don't know the level of Ayer's influence on Obama, but given the Ayer's steps for radical takeover of the govt., isn't it odd that Obama is following them?
1. Obama and Ayers were on a committee with only 4 other members.
2. Obama continues to deflect all questions regarding the depth of his relationships.
3. Obama will not admit that his most time consuming work in Chicago was with ACORN.
If these issues can be addressed without using the name Keating, I'd rest a little easier.

"That old one" was in a
state of agitation and
high dudgeon the whole
debate.

Emm,

I think we should note that that same NYT article concluded that Obama and Ayers had at most, a fleeting connection, and that Obama had never expressed sympathy or support for Ayers radical views in the 1960s. I'm sorry, but did she really read the article?

If we go by her logic, then everyone else on the board of the respected charity possibly shares Ayer's radical views.

About the whole fundraiser thing, look, Ayers in now a respected professor in a school. What is important that Obama was not engaged in any wrong doing, nor has he ever supported Ayer's acts of violence.

Hmmm, can't look Obama in the eye....what will he do when he has to actually address heads of other countries? Send "winky" Palin, of course! McCain is erratic, and as age marches on, will only become more so. He is in no position to participate in a global environment. He does not have the demeanor or the mindset. Also, FYI, I am not 20, 30, or 40..try 50, and in the medical profession.

To: Post Rational

They stood for McCain because he's elderly -

DUH!!

"It seems to dehumanize them into an object instead of a person."

Almost as good as Obama's comment that Hillary was "likable enough"?

Hey, Grey.
Did Gov. Palin just out of the blue accuse Obama of having a close connection to Ayers? Or maybe. . . she was quoting the New York Times article that made the connection?
A big difference there.

Focus people. PORK. This is a non story meant to detract from the important point McCain made. He could lose a few of the "my friends" remarks for my taste, but the message is about PORK. Don't get all wrapped up in the distractions.

"By the way, my friends, I know you grow a little weary with this back-and-forth. It was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney.

You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one. You know who voted against it? Me.

I have fought time after time against these pork barrel -- these bills that come to the floor and they have all kinds of goodies and all kinds of things in them for everybody and they buy off the votes.

(From another part of the speech: He voted for nearly a billion dollars in pork barrel earmark projects, including, by the way, $3 million for an overhead projector at a planetarium in Chicago, Illinois. My friends, do we need to spend that kind of money?)

I vote against them, my friends. I vote against them. But the point is, also, on oil drilling, oil drilling offshore now is vital so that we can bridge the gap. We can bridge the gap between imported oil, which is a national security issue, as well as any other, and it will reduce the price of a barrel of oil, because when people know there's a greater supply, then the cost of that will go down.

That's fundamental economics. We've got to drill offshore, my friends, and we've got to do it now, and we can do it."

It's not so much racism. I think, that anyone, when referring to some one, should not call him or her "that one". It seems to dehumanize them into an object instead of a person.

I don't know if what McCain said had racist undertones or not, but it came across as being quite rude. And it's understandable that some people uncomfortably see it as underlying racism- considering that racism involves in dehumanizing people. Of course, I really don't know what McCain is thinking, but I think that referring to Obama that way was pretty rude, racism or not, any person should still treat their opponent with civility.

Obama is not McCain's personal enemy, and he has to remember that.

I thought "That one" was pretty rude. When I am talking to a person I say him or her or call them by their name. You don't say "that one".

I'm not saying McCain should bow and scrape at Obama's feet or go far out of his way to respect him in, but I think he could have should simple civility by referring to Obama by his name or as a person. Obama showed McCain that in the past two debates, looking at him and listening when McCain was talking. I also found it particularly annoying that McCain would be walking around when Obama was talking, it was quite distracting.

Still, McCain and Palin have made their campaign very negative. While they are not outright telling people that Obama is a terrorist, that's what they seem to be insinuating the past few days.

McCain's "That one" comment will haunt him. This race just about over. President Obama: coming to a White House near you, starting 1/2009 through 1/2017

Not so much racist.... as just vile and contemptful.

McCain clearly cannot control his emotions. His erratic behavior shows us that much. Couple with his inability to look Obama in the eye. And McCain comes off as kind of desperate and threatened. He moved around the stage like a possum, and would occassionally leer with his jaws open, like possums do when frightened.

"That one!" Just kind of sealed the whole deal.

"MCCain and Palin's dangerous encouragement to crowd to cause bodily harm to another Presidential Candidate."

Just more absurd conclusion jumping.

The statement "that one" reflects John McCain's methods on trail recently. Palin and McCain are enticing crowd hate, racial prejudice, terrorist, kill him, treason at campaign rallies. At the end of debate when Obama tried to shake McCain hands McCain refused. McCain's well known erratic explosive temper and hate were quite apparent. In contrast Obama displayed good sportsmanship and body and facial language were quite cordial.

I am white college educated medical professional and Registered Republican, but I have no tolerance for MCCain and Palin's dangerous encouragement to crowd to cause bodily harm to another Presidential Candidate!! FBI needs to stop this!! Both Democrats and Republicans should be quite angry!! I am quite angry!!

"I agree. No way. McCain is going to win. I think your treason charge is a little over the top, though."

Glad to see at least one other person on this site hasn't been blinded by the media bias towards Obama. Once Berg's motion gets passed, Obama will have no where else to hide, he'll be disqualified, and we can finally move on to rebuilding this great country.

btw, that one says computer was invented by govt. how come nobody caught it. If it is Mccain people would be pondering all over it to say how non technical he is

He'll never make it to POTUS. His deceptions and real agenda are soon to be revealed and the American people will wake up from their trance. He'll be lucky if the media doesn't throw HIM under the bus once the indictments of treason start.

Posted by: Emm
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I agree. No way McCain is going to win. I think your treason charge is a little over the top, though.

He'll never make it to POTUS. His deceptions and real agenda are soon to be revealed and the American people will wake up from their trance. He'll be lucky if the media doesn't throw HIM under the bus once the indictments of treason start.

Why are there so many racist in this country? Don't you know that to question Obama is to be a racist? When are people going to learn that Obama's election to POTUS will end all racism?

Did hear that racist dog McCain... He walked in front of Obama. How dare him. How disrepectful and racsist. Did you see when he looked at him and pointed at him! What a dastardly RACIST! I swear. When McCain sad 'that one' I was shocked and appauled. I know that term 'that one' has always meant something racist. My African American mother used to call me that all the time when she was mad at me and wanted to "keep me down". This is disgusting!!

Jake, let's go full throttle and look into the latest news of Berg's attempt to get the O camp to show evidence of eligibility. Seems they've filed a motion to delay pending the granting of their earlier motion to suppress. What's up with that?

Seeing McCain's attitude and behavior towards a fellow American, and an American leader at that, makes me question his ability to deal with foreign nationals and leaders with respect and decorum. If he can't show respect to Obama how is going to treat those from around the world?

December 9, 2007
Oprah Calls Obama "The One"
"I am here to tell you, Iowa, he is the one. He is the one!"

Just passing it on Jake.

"that one" is racist?

I'm sick of the Obama campaign finding racism at every turn, from Ayers being called a "terrorist" to Obama being referred to as "that one". The Obama campaign, Democrats, and minions either are so racist themselves that they can see nothing else, or this is just a political ploy.

My money's on the political ploy.

Bev, if you're worried about more taxpayer spending then you'd better listen closely to Obama. He wants a second bailout package for Main Street, including buying up bad mortgages and "renegotiating the interest rate and the principle". He also wants a second "stimulus package", much larger than the first, the beauty of which being (to him) that he can give money to everyone, even those who never pay a penny in tax. On top of all that, his tax plan will kill enterprise resulting in more business closures, higher unemployment, and an ever-downward economic spiral.

Who voted against biofuels and the development of alternative energy that would lead to energy-independence? McCain!

Obama/Biden 08!

The only guy McCain related to in the crowd asked if Americans will shed blood for israel given that israel has had a record of invading and occupying other countries like Lebanon in 2006 nobody asked[which is likely] what happens if israel in fear of iran gaining a nuclear weapon will it bomb iran the way it bombed osirak reactor in iraq in 1981 then in follow up US ground troops in iraq targeted by shia iraqis a very dangerous scenario.

Quintell

yea it was not a true town hall debate.. I watched the replay of the 92 town hall on c-span where there were genuine questions and gut reactions and transparent manerisms from the candidates... Obama did try to play bill clinton btu he came off looking sortof small

If Tim Russert is looking down on us he not liking what he seeing, he left to soon I believe with Tim we would have a fair election at least on the media side, he would have grilled both of these guys and served them up, this was a debate written for Russert he would controlled this debate like a true town hall and since when did the moderator in a town ask more questions that the crowd.

This was not a debate, Tim Russert we needed you in the election season to ask hard questions. both did well ill give Mccain A-, Obama B-(this was because of his rambling on and on.)But he gave very direct answers to questions he could answer, like wise with Mccain but foregin policy is what the president decides on that the american public has little say over (edge Mccain) the economy will turn around and then what (both Tied)and relating to people in the crowd (edge Mccain). the press love Obama so much that they didnt even pay attention to utterly sloppy, down unprofessional Tom Brokaw, which I liked up til now. You sitting in Tim Russert chair, sir. Either retire from jouralism, or sign up be a spokesman for Obama. I'm a democrat no matter who wins the press need to reevaulate how the do business they arent Objective and ethical,

R.I.P
Tim Russert we miss you big guy!!!!!!

"If nothing was said how do you know it referenced Ayers?"

Because that was the context it was supposedly reacting to.

Jaime

Im a democrat and still uncomfortable with Obama... he may win because he is able to bs his way through but he will fall flat like any other poltician... which he is.. and the ACORN and ayers stuff is relevant because Obama handed ayers a 50 million dollar grant to give to organizations in chicago in the 90s and thats suspect at best

Bev

"that one" is a coloquial term... and as for the extra 300 billion its a ploy because we cant pay for it but the point is Obama is going to have to back down on 2/3 of his proposals because of this mess in whcih he has gotten money from the coprporations that were bailed out thats unacceptable....you bring your turnout on election day but I have confidence that most peoeple have a conscience and common sense which Obama has neither

Besides saying "that one" (just like a man saying "that woman" and in a condescending way..McCain said something else you better pay attention to...he said when he is president he would buy up more failed housing loans (to the tune of another $300billion)and that does not worry you?

After a $700 billion bailout, how much is enough?? Wasn't the $700 billion already meant for that?

Worries me.

Obama/Biden '08