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I watched the debate and when Senator McCain made the comment "that one" I was appalled. I honestly don't think it had anything to do with race. Senator MCain is in his 70's and he is just old and grumpy. He doesn't have full mobility of his limbs.....and I want a president that can RAISE HIS HAND IF HE'S SURE!!!!!! I am a 28 years old and I think I can identify with someone who has a vision of change. This is what our country needs. We Americans are anry and tired of old politically figures. It's time for something FRESH. All I can say is, let's give Obama a chance and see where he can/will lead this country......

i am stunned that some people still think there is a connection between bill ayers and barack obama. even more stunned that anyone but a white supremest, neoconservative, or fundamentalist would even be thinking of voting for the guy. with palin catering to the violent streak manifesting in her rallies i am speechless with disgust when i read one more diatribe on obama for something that he had nothing to do with. he was eight when ayers was in the weather underground. i don't know about you but i don't automatically do a background search when i am introduced to a college professor. if no one said this is bill ayers the one who was acquitted of charges that he was involved in domestic bonbings how would obama know? he does not hang with the guy and his campaign was started by a rabbi and the rabbi's wife. incidentally the rabbi's wife is quite upset that people are saying ayers started obama's campaign. get it right people and for crying out loud THINK about what your being asked to believe. you don't get to the presidential race without having been scrutinized ad nauseum.

They're selling out of the "That One" T-shirt. They're going for $25 bucks. I ordered three. Better get yours, they're going fast!!

My friends,
My crimson tie has turned blue, like the sky over here in Alaska...where I’m with my little friends the squirrel, the moose and the pit bull.
To paint the now extinct snow over here, I use some of my left over grey locks to make a brush (because economics have turned bad on me)..smash it like so…that’s the best part of it !!..(like telling old stories about so called ‘terrorists’ to the forefront).
And then..my friends.. to paint the bare stone frame line that has surfaced, I use some of the burnt sienna color of my young ignorant friend over here, who by the way doesn’t know that the cause of the ice melting and climate change in her home state of Alaska is manmade.
Ok..my friends, this was the last episode of painting the nation’s budget in RED (and of Republicans ever being elected in the USA again)…God Bless & Good Night, my friends. RIP, JR.

Obama whines and cries about everything and will use the race card while he is whining. Obama is wearing a HALO FOR GOD'S SAKE. What a hypocrite, he is just a slimy, two faced politican. He tells the San Fran elite that Pennsylvanian's are bitter, gun clinging, racists .. then he comes to PA to suck up. People of PA, do not forget the remarks this man made about you. This is what he thinks of the people of Pennsylvania.
I suppose THOSE REMARKS ARE OK?

John McCain would never say such harsh remarks about American people. This is a good example of Obama's judgement and what he thinks in his heart. He thinks he is above the working class. Don't reward him with your votes.

Bob

I heard it again on on Larry King and Mccain was trying to be humorous but both candidates lack humor especially Obama... Ive had it with this trying not to lose... its gort to be bad when Michele seems like the same one at this point

I said this in another thread and I'll say it here: There was nothing racist about "that one" as some would suggest. It did sound like a very frustrated and bitter opponent who was desperate. I ask this: If the pressure of the election is getting to McCain enough to make dumb mistakes like this, then how would he handle the pressures of being president?

I betcha "empty head" at least knows it's spelled Barack.

John McCain is an angry, despondent, bitter old man. His campaign is going down the drain fast. He and his empty head beauty queen, Sarah Palin, have no choice but resort to hauling insults at Barrak Obama. Shame on them.

Correction! I believe that Obama refers to McCain as "this guy". Thats probably very important to some of you.

It was ok for Obama to call McCain "that guy" earlier in debate, so
whats wrong with McCain calling Obama
"that one"???? And what's wrong with
Obamas full name, he likes it or he wouldn't have it. Getting very tired of
Obama camp crying and the media making
big deal of it and obviously reporting
in a very biased way. Obama camp and the media Watch out for the silent majority, you are really stirring us up and this could cause your candidate votes.

Pamela, I have looked at the birth certificate, just a couple days ago.
This certificate looks like one you could buy at the office supply and complete as you see fit, or it is just a certification of birth. Most birth certificates list, doctor and the doctor's signature. Have you looked at McCain's, to see if there is a difference?

I want you to tell me that they are not going to send checks to the 40% that do not pay taxes. I don't care if it is on the web, anyone can put anything on the web. That is a place I do not believe anything I read about any subject.

And another thing...Obama is way smarter than John McCain. McCain isn't dumb like Bush is dumb, but Obama has a robust, formidable intelligence that McCain doesn't even sniff. Republicans can call it elitist to be smart and educated if they want but I'd be embarrassed if my presidential campaign finished 894th out of a class of 899 and my VP candidate flunked out of 3 or 4 junior colleges and is married to a "First Dude" that didn't go to college at all (not that that's bad) and was a member of a political party that advocated secession from the U.S.

Posted by: mbdsta | Oct 8, 2008 2:45:25 PM
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I know lots of folks that didn't graduate from college, and some that didn't finish in the top 10., and they have done quite well. It doesn't seem to matter when you go to Washington if you are educated...that is where they pull some of the most stupid stunts imaginable. Maybe we would be better off if we let some ordinary folks take the helm for awhile, who knows; maybe they could do the job of an ordinary citizen. As ordinary citizens we seem to solve problems that they in Washington don't seem to have a clue. "McCain doesn't even sniff", maybe that is the problem and that is why obama is so robust, hum..
Right about now secession doesn't seem like a bad idea. Don't know if this is true about the "First Dude", but think his association to that group doesn't even compare to an associate like that of bomber Ayers, and others.

sad, pookie, sad.... the birth cert. is on the website: c'mon, you know better than that.
The tax cut plan is also on the website.
I think you would actually find it quite refreshing as a analytical to see detailed and laid out (at least for this stage)plan that can show you, me , and everyone who got torqed this week or two , how we are going to get back on the right track.
It is a well read plan, and I am also happy to recommend his healthcare plan to you. Especially as a healthcare professional, you will be delighted to see that you wont' have to concern yourself with no-pay clients who need life-saving surgery.
Instead of working for the "drug-dealers" ha ha, who show up with their fancy briefs, and "recommendations" you will be able to actually be a Dr..... no more working with your "hands tied" to the medical insurance and pharmaceuticals industry. Unless you actually enjoyed that.

Obama DID vote for the Cheney energy bill. Obama DID lie in Iowa about having "passed" nuclear bill which in fact was gutted by his pals at Exelon and did NOT pass -- and when he "won" in Iowa, by lying, the media proclaimed him a "phenomenon".

Obama's more of a neocon than McCain is.
He "won" the nomination of the hijacked Democrats through fraud, and if he seizes state power, we will ALL regret it.

One thing about a Republican administration: you can still talk back to it. With a Stalinist coup for which Obama's the figurehead, NOBODY will be talking back. Notice how the mainstream media ALREADY isn't ...

"I am a brain surgeon. Didn't obama say he was going to give a tax cut to 95% of the American people"

Yes he did.

And he has been referencing the American working family and how his tax plan benefits them.

Right wingers who pretend they are smart like to play semantic games with the statement. But these are usually the same people that make the argument that McCain was referencing the American worker when he said the fundamentals of this economy are strong.

So their credibility is zero.

Obama's tax plan gives fare4 more of a tax cut to families making less than $200K than McCain's.

Obama's tax plan raises payrool taxes on those making $200K+ and income taxes on those making $250K+

It includes tax credits for health care for small businesses.

I am a Republican but that moment during the debate even made me wince. I honestly don't get those individuals here who pass it off as some small insignificant occurrence. Calling Sen. Obama "That One" was demeaning, insulting, and incredibly disrespectful. I think that our next president should have more self control and foresight than what Sen. McCain has shown during this election. Sen. McCain is looking more like George Wallace every day and should be ashamed of himself.

As far as Gov. Palin, she is obviously a self-serving, small-minded racist. by allowing her rallies to take on such overtones is inexcusable. I would also have to question any citizens that would allow themselves to be sucked into her vortex of racism and xenophobia.

For the first time since I've started voting, I am truly ashamed of my party.

And another thing...Obama is way smarter than John McCain. McCain isn't dumb like Bush is dumb, but Obama has a robust, formidable intelligence that McCain doesn't even sniff. Republicans can call it elitist to be smart and educated if they want but I'd be embarrassed if my presidential campaign finished 894th out of a class of 899 and my VP candidate flunked out of 3 or 4 junior colleges and is married to a "First Dude" that didn't go to college at all (not that that's bad) and was a member of a political party that advocated secession from the U.S.

Pookie:
I am actually schooled in poli-sci, and pscy.... I think that the fact that you are standing up for JM after he point blank counter-manded himself, several times last night, and repeatedly attempted to perpetuate the same lie about Obamas tax plan, and what he said about Pakistan (point blank, and with no ambiguity) over and over is commedable. Sad, but commendable.

Posted by: pamela | Oct 8, 2008 2:27:57 PM
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I am a brain surgeon. Didn't obama say he was going to give a tax cut to 95% of the American people? He didn't come right out and say he was going to issue a check to the 40% that don't pay taxes, but that seems to be the plan.
Where is this money coming from, guess you must be going to foot the bill since you probably haven't lost any money in the past few days.
This guy is dangerous, this country does not need him. As bad as you think McCain is, he hasn't had friends like obama has and he released his "real" birth certificate.

I'm a black male, but not one of those 'cry-wolf/everything-is-racist' types. I tend to give people speaking off the cuff a bit of leeway in the words they choose and I save my accusations of racism for when it's clear.

This lets some people off the hook b/c polished politicians know how to use loaded language rather than clumsy racial epithets, and they frequently get away with it. But at least I avoid accusing people of racism that don't deserve it.

With McCain and his 'that one' comment there's a few things that should be noted.

1) McCain is the one that said Obama should be very careful with every word he utters. If McCain's going to turn 'lipstick on a pig' into a sexist attack when it clearly wasn't, Republicans shouldn't belly-ache about 'that one' being questioned as racist. Many black AND white people raised an eyebrow when he said it. We're not making it up (in fact, we're responding to a CBS article written about it). Stop trying to let the old dude off the hook. He's the one that started it.

2) McCain said openly that he was going to attack Barack's character. That suggests aforethought. Maybe it was an accident, but 'that one' was definitely a loaded word--maybe not racist, but at least racially insensitive, like 'uppity' is. If he's going to telegraph his personal attacks, he should be accountable if they come across as racist. Again, Republicans, stop belly-aching.

3) We don't go around calling him 'John Sidney McCain' because it would be stupid and awkward, so why does McCain's camp/surrogates keep calling him 'Barack Hussein Obama'? This is not deep insight obviously, we know why. I only mention it because it's SO sophomoric and basic and clumsy, that it's preposterous that grown-ups not named Karl Rove would resort to it. It would be laughable except that it's so insidious. And the worst part is, there are dumb people out there that go for the head-fake, and it gives people that are inclined towards racist views license to act and speak on them. If John Sidney McCain was a principled man, he wouldn't allow that crap. Too bad he isn't.

4) All Republicans are racist and so is everything they say (just kidding...a little Al Sharpton humor never hurt nobody).