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The Brown Bomber

October 12, 2008 2:15 PM

"The kind of comments made by Congressman Lewis, a big Obama supporter, are reprehensible," said Rick Davis, the campaign manager for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., on Fox News Sunday. "Barack Obama should apologize to John McCain directly for the kinds of comments made by Joe -- John Lewis yesterday, and that should be the end of this sordid affair."

-- jpt

October 12, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (135)

User Comments

Well, as its said...a snake in the grass will show its head...I'll give Sen. McCain his just dues when he had to stop that woman at his rally from continuing on with her blatant racism...I live the metro Detroit area that has the largest Arab community outside of the middle east...someone ask them how do they feel after that woman was so out spoken...racism in America is still alive and ugly and how so very unfortunate. Presently as it is McCain should apologize for the people at his rallies and I see no need for Rep. Lewis to do anything less than what he has done all his adult life, address racism in this nation

Posted by: KenB, MI | Oct 13, 2008 8:45:28 PM

Sorry Jake..I had forgotten that I had already posted yesterday about Lewis..didn't mean to unintentionally "spam" with another post..(for all I know this post won't go through either lol).

Posted by: Al MacLeod | Oct 13, 2008 9:03:57 AM

Captain America

Even if ACORN were filling out bogus registrations on purpose, you can't steal an election that way. Registration is not voting.

Posted by: jock59801 | Oct 12, 2008 3:51:53 PM
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If you register and vote the same day you sure could vote as many times as you register. Absentee voting could be done the same way.


Posted by: Melody | Oct 13, 2008 7:45:37 AM

I guess Rep. Lewis is no longer one of McCain's men. Is the McCain campaign going to start huffing and puffing about all the conservative white guy columnists who are banging them on their inept and negative campaign?

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Oct 13, 2008 5:49:04 AM

Obama doesn't have the character to take a position and stand up against his party leaders. You can always count on a soft response. Obama has lied and lied and lied to us about Ayers. His story has been substantially changed since he 1st acknowledge Ayers. Today Mayor Daley said they were friends. For him to lie and then cry foul shows his true character. Of course, ABC will not accurately cover this or any other of his omissions and out and out lies. They are hot on the trail of frying Palin for standing up against a child abuser, drunk and armed maniac tough. Good job.

Posted by: ubu1991 | Oct 12, 2008 9:26:33 PM

The only person in this endless election drama who can be legitimately likened to George Wallace is Jeremiah Wright, you know the bigot who was Barack Obama's pastor and spiritual mentor for over twenty years. But, Senator Obama simply had no idea he was such a virulent bigot. The "truth squad" demands you swallow this prevarication with no questions asked!

Remember, theenlightenedone is above any examination. Whatever he says is simply so!

Posted by: Thank God for Karma | Oct 12, 2008 9:09:44 PM

Ryan C: I was just responding to the topic that JT and company have put out for discussion. You see the point of this topic is the fact that one of McCains supporters today on tv misspoke and said joe and immediatley said John in refering to John Lewis, who is one of my hero's because all that he did in brining about civil rights. I was just saying that everyone has embarrassing moments and I gave that as an example. I am not sure why you were offended. I just don't understand why ABC feels it so important of a gaff that they put 3 min of a Joe Lewis fight in order to make a point, it seems to be juvenile and not worthy of discussion. But they choose the topic not I.

If we want to go down the list of mistakes made by each canidate, like Obama saying that he has been to all 57 states we could but then I would be engaging in the very thing that I am condeming.

Posted by: Russell | Oct 12, 2008 6:35:46 PM

Unlike Obama and his surrogates McCain is no mysogynist and does not need to demean women like "

Yeah if you don't count him calling his wife the c-word or his laughing at a support of his calling Hillary a b%4#@ or his interupting of Palin during joint interviews, not allowing her to speak or his treatment of Palin in general when it comes to the media.

Oh and how could I forget that he cheated on his 1st wife and left her for a younger richer woman when the 1st wife was still recovering from a car accident.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 12, 2008 6:29:52 PM

Conduct unbecoming an officer and gentleman is a punishable offense of the U.S. military defined by Article 133 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice as:

• "Action or behavior in an official capacity which, in dishonoring or disgracing the person as an officer, seriously compromises the officer's character as a gentleman."

• "Behavior in an unofficial or private capacity which, in dishonoring or disgracing the officer personally, seriously compromises the person's standing as an officer."

• "Knowingly making a false official statement;"

• "Using insulting or defamatory language to another officer in that officer's presence or about that officer to other military persons;"

Posted by: McCain Conduct Unbecoming | Oct 12, 2008 6:12:26 PM

Kravits: Unlike Obama and his surrogates McCain is no mysogynist and does not need to demean women like Obama did Hilllary and then ask them to support him. John McCain was in a POW camp when George Wallace was advancing his segregationist agenda. He to was denied his civil rights, and he knows all to well how it feels to have them taken away. No just like Obama and crew did to Bill Clinton they now attempt to do to John McCain. John McCain fought for all Americans and not just white america or Republicans. Mr. Lewis comparision is an insult to all those who foungt for civil rights in this country and all those who foungt on the balltlefield in order that we have the freedom to set around and call each other racist!

Posted by: Russell | Oct 12, 2008 6:10:25 PM

Russell,

Would you rather they focus on McCain not getting the name of the leader of Pakistan right or his seeming inability to pronounce the name of the leader of Iran?

Or how about when he addressed a rally as my fellow prisoners vs my fellow Americans as he intended.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 12, 2008 6:09:19 PM

If during Wednesday's debate, McCain goes negative, and Obama is forced to mention the U.S.S. Forrestal disaster where McCain is personally responsible for 133 deaths because of his careless hotdoggin' (erratic showoff flying crashed a plane into the ship,) it could be a not so nice drubbing to watch as a legacy crumples to the floor.

There is so much Obama has not done to McCain's reputation. The Contras. The Arizona organized crime connections. The Jimmy Johnson killing. The Ft. Ord land deal. Don Diamond. The undeclared gambling income. But the Forrestal is very devastating...it really does ruin the idea that McCain is a responsible guy. He sat downstairs while others perished.

Then again, with John Lewis, notice he said "Governor Palin and me" rather than put himself first. He's always hiding behind something. Whether it's the POW thing, or in this and other cases....hiding behind women. (Don't hit me!! Don't hit MEEEEE!!!)

Posted by: kravitz | Oct 12, 2008 5:57:56 PM

Why don't you show the footage of the Republican turned Obama supporter who was given a script by the Obama campaign to introduce Joe Biden, but instead of say now here is Joe Biden the next VP of the US he said here he is the next VP of the US John McCain. Apparently JT and crew can't or do not want to show anything embarrasing about the Obama campaign. ABC Fair and Balanced as usual!

Posted by: Russell | Oct 12, 2008 5:52:57 PM

Unfortunately, there is too much truth in the comparison with George Wallace.
We remember well, the hate he stirred by his rhetoric, much as the words being used by Palin and weakly endorsed by McCain. McCain would like to have it both ways. This is NOT leadership- but, politics of the worse kind.

Palin would do well to take some lessons from Hillary Clinton. Today, she made some searing remarks about the economy in favor of Obama- without the character assassination favored by Palin and McCain.

Palin does not have the knowledge to do anything but use one line character attacks. McCain should and does know better.

Posted by: DCMata | Oct 12, 2008 5:28:40 PM

"terrorist" "kill him" "off with his head" ---------- McCain/Palin the change we DONT need!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: a SAD registered rep | Oct 12, 2008 5:19:47 PM

"so, the man made a slip up, said joe instead of john, ted kennedy almost called obama, osama when intro-ing him.
i don't understand the need for the 3plus minutes of joe lewis footage.

"

it's the columnist love of obama.. slips of the tongue by righties reflect their true feelings, slips of the tongues by obamaites are just accidents

Posted by: trettione | Oct 12, 2008 5:09:36 PM

let's be honest.. John Lewis is a obamaite.. what he said,combined with Obama's refusal to reject what John said, means it was a sanctioned obama statement.


Posted by: trettione | Oct 12, 2008 5:07:49 PM

Nice video of Joe Louis and Max Schmelling (fight two) Jake. One thing though, in almost 12 years as Heavyweight Champion of the World, Louis, The Brown Bomber, never hit anyone with a low blow. He didn't have to-nor would he.

Perhaps Rep. John Lewis should study some old tapes of Joe Louis, and he might learn a thing or two-especially something called the Marquis of Queensbury Rules.

I am sure the Congress has their version, and John McCain-a great fight fan from what I understand (as am I)has always adhered to those rules throughout his career, never hitting anyone with a low blow, and he's won plenty of fights on the Senate floor and elsewhere, without the use of such dirty tactics.

John McCain said it best-Lewis' remarks went beyond the pale, and he threw a cheap shot at McCain. It's time for Lewis to apologize.

Posted by: Al MacLeod | Oct 12, 2008 4:58:58 PM

Obama, "We've been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days that he wasn't willing to say it to my face."

McCain, ""Congressman John Lewis' comments represent a character attack against Governor Sarah Palin and me that is shocking and beyond the pale." I call on Senator Obama to immediately and personally repudiate these outrageous and divisive comments that are so clearly designed to shut down debate 24 days before the election."

McCain attacks Obama, however he does it behind Obama's back.

Rep. Lewis attacks McCain, however McCain insists Obama talk to Lewis.

What's going on here? McCain campaigns he's the fighter, however in reality he's hiding getting someone else to do the fighting.

McCain presidential?

No, he's not. He's gutless.

Posted by: newz4i | Oct 12, 2008 4:54:48 PM

Talk about a double standard. We must treat the old guy with respect. All the while they berate the other guy. What a load of crap. The old guy doesn't deserve our respect any longer. He's proven that he is no better than rove and bush. No thanks, we only have 100 more days of them. We cannot afford any more.

Posted by: judesuper | Oct 12, 2008 4:54:30 PM

American voter,
I-N-D-U-S-T-R-I-A-L.

By the way this is the post industrial age of technology, looking FORWARD to the age of the new frontier, which is renewable ENERGY and the ENVIRONMENT.

That is one of the main problems with the Republican platform. They are consistently looking backwards.

That is why they keep talking about "washed up" Vietnam era protesters.

Without a vision, the people perish.

Posted by: Englishteacher | Oct 12, 2008 4:37:58 PM

Voter In America

No I got your point I was just pointing out your government is subsiding AIG

I wrote:

No you guys own AIG (Socialized) and you are going to own large chunks of your banks (Socialized)!

****I dont like it either*** THEN I POINTED OUT MY VIEW: the only thing that should be Socialized in your country is the health care system..


Posted by: Aussie | Oct 12, 2008 4:32:17 PM

It has taken me a while to grasp this simple concept: there are many social groups in this country that can not always be counted on as a whole to vote as one. On the other hand, the group of about 40 million people who proudly call themselves what Bristol Palin's boyfriend says he is proud to be, will likely all vote as a block. It is this unique property that makes them so valuable to the republicans; convince just a few and the rest will follow like sheep. It was this fact that convinced GW Bush that all he had to do was manipulate the Evangelicial movement into believing his dedication to their movement, and he would take the white house. He was right, but now we know what GW Bush really thinks of the Joe-Six-Pack crowd. McCain also needs these folks to win this election. I think that this is why he appears so erratic of late. You would be erratic too if your because your stupid errors, your campaign found itself forced to get up, and repeat over and over again such statements. Statements, that about 80 percent of the population know are idiotic lies. But for his target group, facts mean very little. Because as long as they hear what they already believe, all is well. Even John McCain, could not have anticipated how effective he would be at stirring up this mob. Now, that the secret service has entered the picture to investigate whether or not something he or "that women" said caused a threat to be made, I would imagine that John McCain finally got the message that picking on people who haven't got a clue was not working. For, not only was it NOT changing any of their votes (remember they've already have made up their minds), but it was actually costing him net votes among decent republicans.

Posted by: jrc903 | Oct 12, 2008 4:31:31 PM

To Aussie,

You MISSED my point!
I said I BELIEVE in the FREE Market.
NEVER SOCIALIZED system that you referred to. I don't even want that UNIVERSAL Health Care that you alluded to, either. NADA...
I am a CAPITALIST/Entrepreneur/INIDUSTRIALIST!

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 4:25:15 PM

While you're at it, Tapper, why not post some footage of Muhammed Ali?

African American, Arabic name, somewhat nutty religious mentor, accused by right wingers of being unpatriotic and sympathizing with America's enemies...

Posted by: ATO | Oct 12, 2008 4:24:48 PM

To bald eagle,

You STOLE my lines!

That's VERY GOOD. I forgot about that wheelchair episode!

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 4:20:47 PM

The only "sordid affair" taking place is Palin essentially calling Obama a terrorist sympathizer and inciting hateful speech at her and McCain's rallies. It's despicable.

Posted by: cincyr | Oct 12, 2008 4:18:59 PM

To coca cola,

Are you sure you are not drinking Cool-aid?

My McCain/Palin sign was destroyed in front of my house! Yet the Obama sign was intact. I wondered why?

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 4:18:53 PM

omg wrote: "voter in america, mr. magOO can see the difference in what obama and biden will do to lift this country up and what mccain and palin are doing to tear it down. if i showed you, voter in america, you would not believe it."

So in other words, omg, you really DON'T know other than the slogans ('hope', 'change', 'yes we can')? Or you can't point to anything Obama's ever done that people can verify and evaluate? All you have is your touching but somewhat pathetic faith in the "O" Man.

"so i guess you will just have to go down with the titanic express.
but here is a lifeline, go to cspan and listen to joe."

Yeah, let's see if there are any new Neil Kinnock speeches he's plagiarizing this week, or if he's proclaiming anyone else "articulate, bright and clean," or telling any paraplegics "stand up so they can see ya!" That should be really inspiring.

Posted by: bald eagle | Oct 12, 2008 4:18:31 PM

Hey Mary, while your defending McCain and saying the he never called Obama a terrorist, check out the head line on the other ABC blog, "VA GOP Chief Compares Obama to Osama"

You neo-con hold Obama responsible for everything said in his name, well hold McCain responsible for the lies said in his name.

Posted by: JR | Oct 12, 2008 4:17:25 PM

Voter In America

No you guys own AIG (Socialized) and you are going to own large chunks of your banks (Socialized)!

I dont like it either the only thing that should be Socialized in your country is the health care system..


Posted by: Aussie | Oct 12, 2008 4:16:38 PM

To omg,
Yes... I have listened to Joe in my life time. Actually, when he first elected to the Senate. Not IMPRESSED.

If you believe in Joe, then you should remember HOW he told the story of his wife death?

The DRUNK truck driver killed his wife and daughter!

I am PATIENT to hear WHAT YOU have to say since you are the torch bearer for them. So go ahead, just delineate a few lines would be OK.

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 4:15:36 PM

While an opportunity to watch clips of the great Joe Louis is always welcome, you can count me as one of the posters here who don't quite get the connection between the video and this story.

"Louis/Lewis"

Both African Americans adept at laying the smack down on white guys?

Posted by: ATO | Oct 12, 2008 4:15:30 PM

Voter in America - Jock is right. It was NOT the prosecutor. It was the Attorney General and others who violated the law which allowed Ayers to get off. You're blaming the wrong person by saying it was the Prosecutor. Not to miss the point though, I agree that Ayers should have been sent to jail. BTW the Democrats are not going to "steal" the election. Bush and the neocon right wing, whom McCain is pandering to, have alienated the majority of the country. I live in North Carolina. I am a white woman and I can tell you I do not know ANYONE who is voting for McCain and I know a lot of people. Everyone I know or see out is supporting Obama. I see Obama yard signs, bumper stickers, and t-shirts everywhere I go. I have yet to see anything supporting McCain (well, I did see one bumper sticker driving to the beach). The majority of Americans see that the Republican party no longer represents the ideals it once stood for.

Posted by: coca cola | Oct 12, 2008 4:14:47 PM

Jake, did you miss the entire FOX news interview? Davis was asked about the crowds at the Palin ralliles and used this as a diversion to avoid giving an answer.

Davis also hilariously said "where was John McCain while Wallace was spewing his hate? He was in a POW camp..."

Of course Wallace's "segregation today,,,segregation tomorrow...segregation forever" line was from his 1962 speech, four years before McCain was shot down...

Posted by: Mike | Oct 12, 2008 4:14:34 PM

gotta go,

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 4:13:02 PM

To Aussie,

You are ENTITLED to your opinion.

BTW, my gov't is NOT a SOCIOLIST gov't yet! I am AGAINST all the "bailouts"
I believe in Free Market Society.

At this point my Gov't is "subsiding" the banks and insurance companies, which I totally OPPOSED.

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 4:10:30 PM

voter in america,

mr. magOO can see the difference in what obama and biden will do to lift this country up and what mccain and palin are doing to tear it down.

if i showed you, voter in america, you would not believe it. so i guess you will just have to go down with the titanic express.
but here is a lifeline, go to cspan and listen to joe.

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 4:10:16 PM

Voter In America

The prosecutor represents the government, but it is not his fault that the government had previously violated people's rights.

The only point I am making is that the "technicality" that Ayers got off on was not a "little" one.

Posted by: jock59801 | Oct 12, 2008 4:09:26 PM

CNN Fact Check: Is Obama 'palling around with terrorists'?

The Statement: Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin said Saturday, October 4, that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama is "someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

Verdict: False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

Posted by: Aussie | Oct 12, 2008 4:05:59 PM

omg wrote:
"barack obama and joe biden are for the american people and that is why i am for obama and biden-hrc"

omg,

Can you just show me WHAT exactly Obama/Biden do that consider for Amrican People?

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 4:04:54 PM

To jock59801,

Prosecutor represents the Gov't!

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 4:02:09 PM

barack obama and joe biden are for the american people and that is why i am for obama and biden-hrc

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 4:01:30 PM

A headline you wont see on the in the bag for McCain ABC news affiliates, because its true:

"McCain joins racist Conservative Citizens Council in endorsing George Wallace Jr."

Posted by: Mike | Oct 12, 2008 4:01:21 PM

It was the government's fault that Ayers got off. It wasn't the fault of the prosecutor. He was just stuck with the fact that the government had so blatantly violated the right of everyone involved. I am not saying Ayers should have got off, but blame the right people.

Posted by: jock59801 | Oct 12, 2008 4:00:31 PM

You know a lot of voters didn't live through the radical 60's and therefore could care less about Ayers.

Posted by: d | Oct 12, 2008 4:00:25 PM

make no mistake about it, america has done it before and we will do it again.
america will rise again from the ashes of the bushes. hrc

don't ask people who are you for?

ask "who is for you?"

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 4:00:09 PM

Captain America

ACORN has registered 60% democrat and 40% Republican The RNC even says that on its website!

PS Hillary Clinton gave Community Services Inc $200 000 for GOTV effort durring the primary.

Barack Obama gave Community Services Inc $800 000 for GOTV efforts durring the primary.

Community Services Inc is NOT ACORN!

Also on ACORN:

ACORN spokesman Brian Kettenring said recent charges against the organization are just partisan attacks intended to undermine the group’s voter registration efforts. “The current strategy seems to be, from the right, to create, to manufacture a so-called crisis of voter fraud . . . and then to solve that crisis through measures that are about constricting the electorate, narrowing the electorate, keeping people from being able to vote,”

Posted by: Aussie | Oct 12, 2008 4:00:04 PM

WestCoastMessenger

Obama DID publicly repudiate Ayers actions. I guess your sources neglected to mention that part.

Posted by: jock59801 | Oct 12, 2008 3:56:52 PM

Let's do some honest comparisons, shall we?

Obama - relationship with 60s terrorist William Ayres. Medium level association.Obama is not alone, Republicans too, associate with Ayres on matters regarding education. Obama was 8 when Ayres did his weather underground - and condemned his behavior when he learned he had not reformed.

McCain - relationship with 80s financial terrorist Charles Keating. High level association, dinners, vacations, cocktails, yachts over several years. McCain was not exonerated but found to be less guilty than other four Keating congressmen. Keating bilks billions from innocent investors. Let's argue McCain didn't take bribes, he still thought very highly of Keating and considered him a close personal friend.

Acorn. Non profit organization whose goal is to get poor and under represented people registered to vote. Obama campaign hires them to further that goal. People get paid for productivity and therefore, many names registered are bogus. Its not the integrity of the organization, but of those hired to do the registration. Not good.

Repubicans: pose as election officials in 2004 and send black people to wrong precints where they can't vote. Untold people are displaced.Republican operatives arrested for voter fraud behavior.

Conclusion: Long history of voter fraud on both sides. Hard to control what sub-level aides and volunteers will do. I don't think either campaign endorses voter fraud practices though it will surely continue on some level by both sides.

If guilt by association is the measure of the man, sorry but McCain loses. He has always been for corporate America and BIG BANKS. Look too, at Phil Graham, and his wife, Wendy, former CEO of ENRON. Both close friends of McCains.

Posted by: Lucinda | Oct 12, 2008 3:56:51 PM

Jock59801,
Isn't it still true that you have to be "registered" to vote. This is obvious that the effort is one of collusion, because someone was also planning to pull the lever for all those fraudulent registrants. Obama should renounce AcornGate. If not, then we are led to believe that this is what community organizers do.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Oct 12, 2008 3:56:16 PM

To WestCoastMessenger,

I am with YOU on that issue.

Just the FACT that he got off on the TECHNICALITY is what pi&&& me off!

Like Obama denials on Associations with Ayers and Rev. Wright, and Muslim radicals.

It will EVENTUALLY come out.

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 3:56:06 PM

we can help the middle class who are losing their houses,
but only if the reps. lose the white house. hrc.

the help from bush and mccain didn't come until the banks started fail.

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 3:54:15 PM

Obama or his campaign won't apologize for anything as this is how they play....throw out the race card and act innocent...see what we can incite and distract from our fraud of a candidate.
This is the dirtiest campaign I've ever seen and our liberal MSM is to blame too. We are on our way to being told what to do....communisim/socialism, unless someone treats this like Flight 93 and rushes the cockpit and takes down this plane (Obama campaign) before it hits the Capitol! I'm praying that good ol Americans will prevail and we will stamp out the MOST LIBERAL CANDIDATE TO EVER RUN IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY.
LIBERALS NEVER WIN....ONLY DEMOCRATIC CENTRISTS.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Hope, Change, Hate, Nobama '08 | Oct 12, 2008 3:53:48 PM

Registration for several times under the SAME is NOT stealing the election, but Voting SEVERAL times by the SAME person is!

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 3:53:36 PM

Voter in America,
Ayers is walking around a free man because he got off on procedural technicalities. It doesn't lessen the violence that he did. For Obama not to publicly repudiate that, once he learned of the facts is inexcusable. With Obama its one case of poor judgment after another.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Oct 12, 2008 3:53:25 PM

Captain America

Even if ACORN were filling out bogus registrations on purpose, you can't steal an election that way. Registration is not voting.

Posted by: jock59801 | Oct 12, 2008 3:51:53 PM

once again,
all the republican have is bill ayers,
they will not win with that.
if they did win, all of you who are supporting them will get nothing.

but make no mistake,
bill ayers will not be john mccain willie horton.

mccain will not win.
go listen to cspan and the dems and learn something.

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 3:51:35 PM

The BOTTOM LINE is that Obama should repudiate John Lewis's race-baiting commments as reprehensible, no matter how much the Obama blind followers try to excuse the comments.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Oct 12, 2008 3:50:52 PM

Voter In America

Ayers said that before 9/11, not after, and he didn't specifically say it was the bombing that the "should have done more of. I don't have much interest in defending the guy, but I do like to keep the facts straight.

Posted by: jock59801 | Oct 12, 2008 3:46:52 PM

well, my friends,seems aussie knows more

about this than mary and voter in america
EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD KNOWS THAT US MEDIA HAS BEEN JACKED UP FOR YEARS NOW.
AND IF YOU WANT TO GET THE REAL STORY YOU HAD BETTER GO TO THE BBC.
OUR REPORTS ARE CREAMPUFFS WITH THESE POLITICIANS.

BBC REPORTS TELL IT LIKE IT IS, AND HOLDS NOTHING BACK.

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 3:46:46 PM

the Unscrub,

Yesterday, when Obama stated he appreciated McCain's gesture, the Obama crowd booed him.

Posted by: Captain America | Oct 12, 2008 3:45:23 PM

OMG worte:
"and another thing,
has ayers, served his time for what he did?
why is he able to teach school?
why is he not in jail?
he seems to be walking around in plain sight, so he is not hiding,
can anyone help me with the answers to each one of these question?
i really would like the answers
why is bill ayers not in prision?"

Do you know anything about American Justice system? You can get away with MURDER on the technicality.

Here is how it happened.

The PROSECUTOR was misconduct resulted in Ayers walked FREE, but his wife got the SLAMMER. Plain and Simple.

knew he is GUITY, but the mistakes on the PROSECUTOR side set him FREE.

It's like HOW Obama got to be ELECTED in the ILLINOIS Senate on Technicality to remove his opponent name off the ballot (Quite a challenge!).

The he GOT to the US Senate by the SAME way except he digged up the DIRT on his oppenent (about the divorce) so there you go.

The OLD saying:"WHAT going around will come around"

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 3:44:17 PM

Sen. McCain, you are offended? Read this:

John Hinkley
Squeaky Fromme
James Earl Ray
Sirhan Sirhan
Arthur Bremer
Lee Harvey Oswald
John Wilkes Booth
Charles Giteau
Leon Czolgosz

We have a sad history of crazies who try and who have succeeded killing political leaders. Sarah Palin and John McCain and his campaign have adopted a strategy;stoking the fire of unreasonable fear in the hearts of conservative(and mostly Christian) Americans, against Sen. Obama.

This week we have watched the hate spill over. The building of mob frenzy and collective anger, not based on truth, not based on the economy, but because of an endorsed belief that Sen. Obama is this sort of "other."

Yesterday, Friday, when McCain had his "uh oh" moment and finally tried to right this terrible wrong - the crowds were APPALLED to hear that Sen. Obama was a decent guy and not to be feared. Too late Sen. McCain, the damage has been done. You guys have been EXTREMELY successful.

Listen to the tapes! The McCain Palin crowds hollerd out "What???" and moans of "Nooooo."

Worse things are said in these crowds. Calls of Sen. Obama's death and destruction. This is how HITLER whipped up his crowds. He stirred up people's hate and fear so effectively that an entire country sat by and whatched the Nazi party do their handiwork.

Some nut job is going to be encouraged to do what he/she thinks is their patriotic duty for the good of America.

THIS IS DESPICABLE,HORRENDOUS and VILE behavior in the Palin/McCain campaign. So this is how you want to win? By seeing someone killed?

God forbid, anything happens to Sen. Obama. God forbid you pushed the button on one unbalanced person to harm a decent, honorable man - GOD FORBID anybody's blood is shed.

The American People will blame you, Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain. And rightly so.


Posted by: Lucinda | Oct 12, 2008 3:43:43 PM

Captian

The BBC did a really good piece on the truth about ACORN saying that:

ACORN IS THE SMOKE SCREEN FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY... KNOWING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE RATHER THAN ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE BAD POLICIES AND IDEAS THEY INTEND TO BLAME IT ON ACORN...

SHOULD THE ELECTION BE CLOSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL TRY TO USE THE COURTS TO ELECT THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES INTO OFFICE...

THIS IS THE GAME PLAN FOX IS SETTING THE GROUND WORK!

Posted by: Aussie | Oct 12, 2008 3:42:27 PM

Mary:

Once again you don't have a clue that you don't understand what you are talking about. Obama does not pal around with Ayer, nor has he ever done so. But yet, with all the evidence going against you, you still refuse to listen to the truth.

Posted by: The Unshrub | Oct 12, 2008 3:41:22 PM

Hey Aussie,

Do you also consider CNN trash TV? Check out the CNN Special Investigation Unit reports as conducted by Drew Giffin.

In sum, (1) Giffin reports that Obama and Ayers had a much longer and more involved alliance than Obama is willing to admit (2) ACORN is stealing the election for Obama.

Or, is it just that any news outlet that doesn't "conform" to your bias worldview is trash.

Posted by: Captain America | Oct 12, 2008 3:40:33 PM

Truth hurt does it?????????????????What we say in the US is T>S.

Posted by: indp voter | Oct 12, 2008 3:40:27 PM

If McCain wants an apology than he should get it from John Lewis himself.

Posted by: Brandon | Oct 12, 2008 3:38:32 PM

Why should Obama apologize. The McCain campaign is just trying to play victim again. Either that or they are very dumb.

Posted by: musicisourhigh | Oct 12, 2008 3:37:41 PM

Why Senator Obama has to apologize for Mr. Lewis's words or anybody's words for that matter? Senator Obama is running for President, not a babysitter. It's a free country and we have freedom of speech, but freedom comes with responsibility and obligation. So one should be responsbile for one own words, not someone else.

If Mr. Lewis's words are inflamatory and misinterpreted, he is the one should be explaining and/or apologize.

How would Mr. Davis feel if he said something and it was interpreted in a different way, and McCain has to stand up and apoligize for him? Wouldn't he be embarrassed? Wouldn't he wanted to have a chance to explain his meaning, and if neccessary, to apologize himself?

Mr. Lewis did explain on Saturday night that his words were misinterpreted. In a way, he was trying to caution McCain and Palin to remember about Wallace's incident, and not to play with that fire. He did not mean to compare what McCain and Palin is doing at these rallies are the same as what Wallace did at that time.

And Senator Obama campaign also have already issued a statement that he does not believe what McCain campaign is doing is to be compared to Wallace's either.

McCain campaign is not innocent in this matter. They did allow these angry voters to say inflamatory words, and did nothing in the beginning. This is how this whole things got started.

So, McCain campaign needs to let it go and needs to concentrate on the things that are important to the voters at this turmoil time or they will lose this election for sure.

Posted by: michelle | Oct 12, 2008 3:37:22 PM

I don't get this, the comments made by Lewis are reprehensible, but the actions of McCain and Palin's supports are Okay?

Posted by: The Unshrub | Oct 12, 2008 3:36:59 PM

Why is it that the only ones talking about race is the race baiters like Lewis and Meeks?

These losers are stuck on the '60s and pre 60s.

Posted by: Captain America | Oct 12, 2008 3:36:33 PM

McCain IS worse than George Wallace, because McCain should know better. Unless he has gone completely senile and believes this is the 60s and he is running for governor of a southern state, then his tone would be perfect for the time.

Debating Obama on the ISSUES is fine, lying and trying to make idiotic brainless people believe he is a terrorist is a whole different thing. He is race baiting and you all know it.

Posted by: KMA Rick Davis | Oct 12, 2008 3:35:07 PM

excuse me, what a suprise,
bill, hill, jill and joe

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 3:34:45 PM

cspan is on, bill, hill and joe.
turn to it and learn something that will be of help to you and yours

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 3:33:42 PM

Just CALL it like it is!

Obama is a SOCIALIST who ASSOCIATES with TERRORISTS!
Try to bring America down to SOCIALIST society!

There you have it!

So much to HIDE... Why won't he come CLEAN?

Posted by: Voter In America | Oct 12, 2008 3:29:50 PM

--Aussie-- I heard Bill Ayers words from his own mouth--and not on FOX news by the net/video. It is you that does not report the truth. Please get more informed.

Posted by: Mary | Oct 12, 2008 3:26:03 PM

there are no real clinton supporters for mccain,

it is not even a clever tag to use anymore.

clinton supporters have nothing in common with john mccain and his views.

on one hand, mr. mccain seems a very decent man-who is in a very tough position right now.

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 3:24:16 PM

ok, i guess i am the tv scheduler here today.
cspan is waiting for a rally with sens. biden and clinton & president clinton.
should be INTERESTING and informative.
we will learn something of substance.
and not like the stuff we have been hearing at the mccain rallys.
yes?

Posted by: omg | Oct 12, 2008 3:20:09 PM

Gee, Angellight, if TIME says it, then it must be the objective truth! Got any links from PRAVDA on the matter?

Posted by: Thank God for Karma | Oct 12, 2008 3:19:37 PM