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The Tone Being Created

October 07, 2008 8:02 AM

"Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness," writes the Washington Post's Dana Milbank.  "In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her 'less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media.' At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, 'Sit down, boy.'...

"Palin, speaking to a sea of 'Palin Power' and 'Sarahcuda' T-shirts, tried to link Obama to the 1960s Weather Underground. 'One of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers,' she said. ('Boooo!' said the crowd.) 'And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, "launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,"' she continued. ('Boooo!' the crowd repeated.)

"'Kill him!' proposed one man in the audience."

This does not appear an isolated incident. Yesterday at a McCain rally, after McCain asked "Who is the real Barack Obama?" a member of the audience yelled "Terrorist!" And so on.

Getting ugly out there.

- jpt

October 7, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (351)

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The Monsters are due a Maple Street, and I am under the impression the McCain campaign, and other 592s in support of the campaign are trying to get everyone to know of these monsters.

Posted by: Rich | Oct 12, 2008 9:47:40 PM

Hi,
I just feel the need to voice my fears and where they come from. First, the Presidential candidate I was hoping for is not in the running, I am an independant, listening to both sides, and it's not a pretty picture not matter which side you are looking at, that said, let me tell you where my fears with Obama come from, not the McCain/Palin ticket like everyone keeps saying, rather the things I've seen on the news media and on blogs and researching on the internet. First, the Pastor of 20 years, and it's not because of his color, the things the pastor was saying sounded very racist to me and very angry! So, yes that started scaring me, then there was Farrakon (not sure if I spelled that right), then ACORN, he actually trained these people to commit such bad acts!, well that really scares me, will he also train our millitary to treat the American people that way. And are we sure he really beat Hillary? Then there was Odinga, If these things weren't enough, then there's Ayer's. And while watching his interview where he slipped and said his muslem faith, well, muslims are what caused 9/11 and we are at war with a muslim country, when he had earlier denied muslim faith, he said he was a Christian. OK, before you get angry, I only know what I hear, see and read and this causes my a little anxiety. I was always taught to stay away from bad people, people who treat others badly, lie, steal, cheat, etc.) otherwise people will judge you and think you share their feelings or that you are like those people, it's just the way I was raised. Not just his associations but his socialist views on how the county should be run is also a concern. I also agree that Palin needs to refrain from her comments, but I truly believe that the media started this fear based on known associations of Obama. So for what it's worth, those are my real fears, that doesn't make me crazy, just concerned for our country.

Posted by: karen | Oct 12, 2008 12:16:25 AM

Is this the way a woman of faith is to carry her self? Is Sarah Palin a christian woman? She does not look ar act like on to me. True Christians are recognizable. If some one were threating to "kill Him" a christian woman would alert the Secret Service. Not many of the republican people look like true deciples of Jesus. They would not act in this manner. Jesus would not like this at all!!!!!

Posted by: Dorie | Oct 11, 2008 9:16:34 PM

I recall McCain referring to Obama as "That One" during the debates as well as saying to an undecided African American voter with a town hall question that "he'd probably never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac until this crisis".

Posted by: Tiffany | Oct 11, 2008 11:38:07 AM

It is indeed frightening to listen to Sarah Palin. She has the ability to energize and inspire her supporters with her vitriolic rant. Infused with anger, her supporters turned on the members of the media who were reporting on the event. Racial slurs and other hate filled words were heard. The angry mob took over. Are these people really angry about Barack Obama and his nominal association with William Ayers or are they looking for someone to blame and an opportunity to release their frustration about failed expectations?
Am reminded of a different time and place when another political orator could whip supporters into a frenzy. His name was Adolph Hitler. Look at the result........ A world war and a mass extermination of innocent people.
Rather then focusing on the country's and indeed the world's economic crisis, it is far easier for someone of Governor Palin's limited expertise to create a diversion. It is easy to give people a face to hate. It is easy to inspire hatred for certain groups. Playing to the lowest common denominator in our country might achieve McCain and Palin's purpose "to win an elction." Are you the people of the United States ready for the result?

Posted by: Kathy Mills | Oct 10, 2008 11:53:29 AM

Correction - previous poster. McCain did not have a choice of picking his fellow Senators and neither does Barack Obama. However, Obama did have the choice of attending the racist church of the Revvvvvvvvrend Wrong and of accepting endorsements from bigots like Louis Farrakhan

Posted by: Tim | Oct 10, 2008 10:27:12 AM

For the first poster, the idiot who tried to link McCain to Robert KKK Byrd - Senator Byrd has been and still is a Democrat for life. Barack Obama also serves in the Senate with Byrd.

Talk about hate-filled, then take a look at Obama's preacher, the Revvvvvvvvvvvvvrend Jeremiah Wrong.

Posted by: Tim | Oct 10, 2008 10:15:15 AM

This is for Moderate........

John McCain served with serious racists in the senate Thurmond and Byrd to name two. Byrd was a former KKK member. McCain rejected Martin Luther King's birthday observance for 6 years making Ariz the last state to observe it. His whole skeleton might not be composed of racist bones but there are some in there. Look at how he regards his adopted child. The same people that worked for Bush in 2000, saying his adopted child was a product of him having an affair with a black woman, are the same people that McCain is employing for this campaign. Why would someone that isn't racist want to associate with people that used racism to defeat him in 2000? Not a racist bone in his body.......I beg to differ.

Posted by: Rinasanz | Oct 9, 2008 5:22:02 PM

I can't believe that they could do this and it not get publicized. If Obama was saying these things about McCain, McCain would be putting it everywhere. I think it's dirty and wrong, and really sad, that they would stoop to this level. I don't like it one bit. Why are Repubs trying to stir up racism and pull people apart? Reading stuff like this makes me angry.

Posted by: CRyan | Oct 9, 2008 12:05:45 PM

I'm sorry, but I just have to correct the record here for all who might say that it's "the same on both sides." Yes, there have been negative things said by supporters of both candidates - especially in anonymous forums like this one. Yes, both candidates have put out negative commercials (although the preponderance of these have come from one side, as a report released by the AP today has shown). But there is a huge difference between the "normal" campaign types of name-calling and this kind of hate-speech at rallies.

I have *been* to Obama rallies. This kind of behavior WOULD NOT FLY at an Obama rally. When the crowd at an Obama rally attempted to "boo" his opponent (Hillary in the primary rally I attended, and McCain in the more recent one), Obama quickly put a stop to that. He was emphatic about the fact that his ~opponent was a good person~, and that his argument was on policy and plans for the country. He would NOT allow his supporters to "attack" an opponent on character ground, figuratively, because it's not a good idea for us as a country. Figurative attacks can all too easily lead to literal attacks.

McCain and Palin need to put a stop to this. They are the leaders of their party, and they need to set the tone by demonstrating what kind of behavior is, and isn't, acceptable. At the end of the day, we all share the same country. We will all have the same President next January 20, whomever we vote for on November 4. I would not find a call to "kill him" (or "her") acceptable from a fellow Obama/Biden supporter, and I know my candidates would not allow such a call to take place at one of their rallies. Civil discourse can welcome disagreements, but we do not need to threaten each other to get our points across.

Posted by: thisniss | Oct 9, 2008 12:38:54 AM

McCain needs to put a stop this stuff at rallies, or someone IS going to get hurt. The person hurt will probably be someone in the press, the supporter thinking they are doing McCain/Palin's bidding - they were SO mean to Sarah. If that happens, with all the press there, ALL the fingers will point back in ONE direction. When you use provocative language (calling someone a terrorist sympathiser or making the press look like menace), then you might inspire provocative action by a crazed follower. Some nutcase might think he's doing the country a service - it's happened before. The McCain campaign better rachet it down, or it is asking for disaster.

Posted by: Fran | Oct 8, 2008 10:32:42 PM

McCain/Palin: they would rather loose a country by stoking the flames of racial hatred than loose an election. We will resist the fascists!

Posted by: Giovanna Lepore | Oct 8, 2008 10:28:56 PM

If you watch the recent campaign rallies, people are just yelling hateful nonsense throughout McCain's speeches. This is truly the wacko wing of the GOP that Palin has fired up. This is the GOP that is proud of stupidity and ignorance and disdainful of reason and intellect. This is fascist thinking...
And by the way I grew up in a town in Nebraska smaller than Wasilla, and I can assure everyone that the McCain-Palin mobs are NOT representative of small town America.

Posted by: Erik | Oct 8, 2008 9:34:32 PM

The American people have finally come to their senses. A platform based on character assassination and the notion that obvious mediocrity and ignorance are somehow "American" will no longer fly. Thank God. (And yes, many of us who aren't Republicans or Rapture-Heads believe in Him, too.)

--The Truth Has Spoken

Posted by: The Truth | Oct 8, 2008 4:15:20 PM

McCain was NOT a fighter pilot he piloted a bombing plane! Do your research!

Posted by: Jason Alva | Oct 8, 2008 11:44:20 AM

I think those who are saying that McCain and Palin are whipping their crowds into a frenzy are being dishonest. I also think those who are calling these two ugly incidents "racist" are being dishonest.

The one man who said "Kill him!" about the domestice terrorist Bill Ayers was wrong. We don't kill terrorists, we send them to Guantanamo, but now they have the right to civilian courts and may mix with the general prison population.

Why is Ayers free, right now? Bill Ayers is from an uber wealthy Chicago family. The very rich rarely go to prison, Democrat or Republican.

The person who shouted out "Terrorist!" had connected all the dots between Obama and Ayers. That does not make Obama a terrorist, but it does give one pause to his political leanings.

When the ugliness perpetrated by both sides is reported equally, we will really be worried about the state of our country. Benjamin Franklin's warning keeps ringing in my ears. What kind of government had been decided upon? "A republic, if you can keep it."

Posted by: American | Oct 8, 2008 8:08:56 AM

The recent whipping up into a frenzy of the McCain/Palin audience shows a very disturbing side of what happens when you use scare tactics to incite a mob. They also cause more division than the actual political parties represent. This leads to elecments of dangerous either/or thinking and rascism and fascism. Sadly, we who lived through the assassinations of Robert and John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King are reminded of how dangerous this kind of thinking is. The media and the populace should be condemning McCain and Palin for even bringout out the worst in people. It shows a disrespect for the awful history of political assassinations in America.

Posted by: jvln101 | Oct 8, 2008 4:54:53 AM

With regards to comments on Senator McCains age, I would not generally say age is an issue, but it has clearly become one in the appearance sense at this point in time. What I saw tonight was quite frankly shocking to be honest.

It's rare to see a full body shot of McCain, but tonight I saw him as being elderly for the first time really, even dare I say it, demure, in his sitting position.

He really unfortunately seemed to be an Alzheimer's patient wandering around the audience, not sure what he was saying and a bit of a Mr. McGoo asking Brokaw to wave at him (insinuating his sight is failing and he can't actually see the lights on the floor), and having to write things down so he could remember them.

He never got his rhythm until the last 20 minutes, and even then it was very much like he was having a flash of a clear thought, not like he put it all together ahead of time.

Additionally he was incredibly rude, and belligerent as is typical of an elderly person who cannot hear, or just does not understand what other people in the room are talking about, who then gets defensive.

Again, I don't think age should be a factor as long as one listens to both young and old opinions, but in this case it will no doubt cause concern.

Posted by: nachtengel | Oct 8, 2008 3:07:11 AM

Palin is doing what she do best people, like the pittbull she said she is, lways nawing @ someone. When McCain suspended his Champaigning to save the "Financial Crisis", PALIN (Hmmmm) had plenty of time to "TESTIFY". Now look at her roaming around picking more fights. I thought there was a lesh law. When are you going to testify?

Posted by: mel | Oct 8, 2008 2:28:29 AM

Here in Ohio we're being treated to the worst the GOP slime machine can produce.

Hopefully people are smart enough to see the barely veiled racism for what it is and it backfires on McCain.

Let's hope the appeal to the most vile aspects of human nature fail to work.

Posted by: Kevin | Oct 8, 2008 12:38:52 AM

It has gotten ugly ... on both sides.

Do you know what would happen if I put up McCain/Palin '08 signs in my yard? I'd probably get them thrown through my front window.

The same goes for Obama signs. Somebody taped one to the telephone pole on our block and it was gone in two hours.

Nobody, I mean NOBODY, seems to be expressing themselves one way the other where I live. Must be self-preservation.

It's funny though ... you go on the internet and everybody is in everybody's face. It's rather depressing.

Posted by: mak | Oct 7, 2008 8:52:43 PM

Jeff? McCain was a fighter pilot. He didn't have men to leave behind. And there were plenty of men who did not make it out of Hanoi - or Vietnam. Or men who came home and lived the rest of their lives in the city park. Or put a bullet through their heads. And John McCain has forgetten them. He has voted against veterans again and again again. His record with disabled vets is 20%. 80% of the time, he voted against bills that would help them. He said he would never condone torture because it would make our troops more vulnerable. Then he turned around and voted for torture with George Bush. He voted against the GI bill - even though when you ask almost any serviceman why he/she went to Iraq - they say it was because they thought they were going to get an education. John McCain's reason? (And this is on record - look it up) Because it would give soldiers an incentive not to reenlist. What a betrayal. John McCain may understand rich officer's kids like himself - but he is no friend to vets and never has been.

Posted by: mara | Oct 7, 2008 7:47:50 PM

TexasFootballMom - You said it all. I believed in John McCain - there is a photo in a national newspaper of my little girl at a rally. What happened to that man?

Sarah Palin, the so-called Christian, has turned this campaign into a hate-filled lynch mob. And the McCain campaign does not have the dignity or integrity to denounce it.

John McCain is over - and the polls show it. Swing states are mostly made up of pretty decent educated voters - and they do not believe in this level of slime. It may have worked for Lee Atwater in SC, but it is not going over in MN or Michigan or Wisconsin. McCain's numbers slip lower the lower he goes.

Posted by: mara | Oct 7, 2008 7:38:36 PM

McCain/Palin could not be blamed for racism/xenophobia of some supporters...that is until their latest dive into sleaze. Linking Obama to a terrorist is a last shameful gasp.
I've gone from sympathetic (New Hampshire primary comeback), to confused (Palin), to embarrased (fundamentals are strong) and now I'm
just getting angry (Obama's different!).

I really hope America is better than this.

Look, Palin's husband Todd is a former (we're assuming he stopped) secessionist who supported an Anti-American Alaska separistist party for a LONG time and she even spoke at their rallies (not some coincidental coffee break in Chicago).

McCain has a LOT of "guilt-by-association" skeletons in his closet that could wipe out the Jewish vote in Florida. I don't reference these things to raise objections to McCain/Palin. I raise them to point out that it's deeds that matter. If, as we should assume, McCain is not Anti-semitic and Palin is not an Anti-American Alaskan separatist, then we better darn well assume Barack is not a sympathizer of anti-Vietnam violence perpetrated when he was a kid.

I for one want to believe the best of our officials, and until McCain decided to unleash this last desperate fodder I had respect for the man. I respect the McCain of old, but this guy I don't even recognize anymore.

Vote for Barr or Baldwin, but give up on McCain/Palin: for the good of the country and the party. This way we'll still have some dignity in 2012.

Posted by: EG | Oct 7, 2008 7:36:48 PM

Well that settles it. McCain and Palin are not mavericks. They're typical hate-mongers sturring up the most vile forms of bigotry they can, in the great tradition of Atwater and Rove.

I was late to this realization (in McCain's case anyway). Rolling Stone and Matt Welch beat me to the realization that McCain is as power-hungry and sleazy as any other politician with national ambitions.

Posted by: Reality-based | Oct 7, 2008 7:19:49 PM

HATRED AND FEAR.

McCAIN and PALIN have SUNK TO THE LOWEST FORM OF POLITICAL DEMAGOGUERY

These rallies based on an EMPTY CULT OF PERSONALITY for a IGNORANT CANDIDATE remind me of the NAZIS.

Posted by: Warren | Oct 7, 2008 7:15:30 PM

NO CANDIDATE HAS EVER BROUGHT UP RACE EXCEPT OBAMA. EVER. GERALDINE FERRARO STATED FACT AND HAD TO PULL OUT OF HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN BECAUSE SHE SAID HE IS WHERE HE IS BECAUSE HE'S BLACK. BILL CLINTON, WHO HAS DONE MORE FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS WAS SLIMED IN SC AS A RACIST.
C'MON....RACISM IS OUT THERE AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FROM OBAMA SIDE.
I'D VOTE FOR A BLACK CANDIDATE (WOULD HAVE COLIN POWELL) BUT NEVER, NEVER BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!

Posted by: hanna | Oct 7, 2008 7:05:12 PM

If I could count all the times I've been called a racist because I am NOT AN OBAMA SUPPORTER, we wouldn't have enough space here to list them all. My yard signs stolen, my car stickers....I get flipped off from a black guy on the freeway on my way to Pasadena.
Please.....RACISM IS HUGE ON THE OBAMA SIDE.
ALL AMERICAN, COUNTRY FIRST McCAIN/PALIN ALL THE WAY!

Posted by: hanna | Oct 7, 2008 7:01:03 PM

They know what they are doing, inciting hatred and fear and delusion. It's the only way they can win.

Palin and McCain will be the victims of the divisions they are creating. There is no rest for the double-minded and neither of these people are behaving like Christians.

McCain will be aghast at what his ambition caused this country in civility.

Boo on all you fearmongers and their willing but miserable prey.

Posted by: Matericia | Oct 7, 2008 7:00:06 PM

"We can take this one racist comment made by some guy in the audience, and use it to paint McCain supporters as racists"

Oh I am sure there are many more racist comments made.

And now reporters will be listening for them.

Posted by: Ryan C | Oct 7, 2008 5:56:29 PM

indy_voter,

Thank you for illustrating the 75-25 backstab so well. And so timely!

Posted by: Warren | Oct 7, 2008 5:22:38 PM

Moderate,

SHHHHHH! You're not supposed to talk about anti-McCain racism or agism or anything-ism.

Don't you get it?! Republicans are EEEEVILLLL! Democrats are GOOOOOOD.

Just watch ABC News tonight. They'll set you straight, with the stories they tell, the stories they DON'T tell, and the adjectives and adverbs they use in the telling.

And you WILL see this "ugly racism" angle on their broadcast. The only question is, will it be a straight up hit job, or will they couch it in a 75-25 backstab*

(*75-25 is where they "present both sides" but clearly lean toward one as the better side.)

Posted by: Warren | Oct 7, 2008 5:19:52 PM

Yep, getting ugly on BOTH SIDES. Let's be evenhanded here, if we can, okay?

Look...Republicans are like the bully in your neighborhood when you were young. They would try to start a fight and you would try ignore them as best you could. Then they were get a little meaner and finally get physical. You would end kicking their ###because in reality they were nothing but a paper tiger. Then they would go home and tell their mother that you were mean to them and caused the fight. That is what Republicans are....at least what the National Republican party and their candidates have become. Obama was attacked personally by McCain and Palin as a strategic political move. Whatever Obama and his supporters do to retaliate is justified. And Republicans can go home crying just like the paper tiger bully you knew growing up..

Posted by: indy_voter | Oct 7, 2008 5:17:17 PM

And then there are Obama fans posting accusing McCain of being a collaborator with the Vietnamese and a war criminal and such. He's also regularly accused of being a racist, when he does not have a racist bone in his body. That's not to start on the insinuations about his age and mental state. Yep, getting ugly on BOTH SIDES. Let's be evenhanded here, if we can, okay? The media still claims to be impartial, or have you abandoned that position?

Posted by: Moderate | Oct 7, 2008 4:45:34 PM

This is great! Be sure to use it tonight on ABC News!

We can take this one racist comment made by some guy in the audience, and use it to paint McCain supporters as racists!

That's what I call Responsible Journalism.

Posted by: Warren | Oct 7, 2008 4:45:31 PM

Hurray for the republicans and their front man, McCain -- who promised America he would run a positive campaign. What happened John???
Of course, the usual gang of Bush admin and campaign thugs is behind this. That's what I call bipartisanship at its best! McCain stinks for allowing this.

Elect this cavil at your own peril.

Posted by: McCainisanAss | Oct 7, 2008 4:34:07 PM

You folks who are supporting this hate speech are really sad. I have an idea....why don't "you guys and gals" move to Alaska, with your governor who supports Alaskan secession from the US...and start your own little country.

The United States was founded on the principle of FREEDOM....from tyranny, religion, etc.

Posted by: Paula | Oct 7, 2008 4:20:54 PM

Where do the McCain campaign's low road race-baiting and word distortions leave us after Nov. 4th? They leave us angry, cynical, and divided. "Country First" my ass.

Posted by: DH | Oct 7, 2008 4:08:54 PM

We've had hate mongers for a long time. Surrogates of political power who are basically thugs at heart, witness during Woodrow Wilson's time. These people have always been the wanna be terrorists of our land, with their misunderstanding of class and politics; they are an easy group to manipulate because they are ignorant and il-educated. In other words, rubes.

Posted by: Smedley Valet | Oct 7, 2008 3:36:31 PM

How did McCain stray so far from his original campaign intentions? When did he sell his soul, in the interest of winning at any cost? How will he sleep at night if this kind of campaign strategy ends in violence against his opponents, their supporters, or the media?

In 2000 I respected McCain. That man does not seem to exist any more. Or maybe he never did, maybe it was just good PR.

The small minded hatred that Palin seems to gleefully encourage should be shocking to him. Why isn't he speaking up against that?

Posted by: texasfootballmom | Oct 7, 2008 3:30:38 PM

Why is the Washington Post more concerned that Ayers is being labeled a terrorist - than with the fact that Obama has a long association with him? Ayers is a domestic terrorist who wanted to hit the same Washington targets the 9/11 terrorists did. Is Timothy McVeigh any less a terrorist for being American-born? Is Bill Ayers any less a terrorist for failing to hit some of his most desired marks? The media has gone crazy, leading the American people off a cliff, and entirely too many of us are following them. Sad, sad, sad.

Posted by: marylou | Oct 7, 2008 3:28:29 PM

People are angry for good reason. They see Obama getting his political start from a known and unrepentent terrorist; they see Obama for 20 years sitting in the church of an America hater; and yet, for all of these disclosures, the press seems to adore Obama all the more.

The press whitewashes Obama's known associations with America haters, and tars Palin with every unsubstantiated rumor they can find.

Of course people are angry with the press.

Posted by: David H | Oct 7, 2008 3:13:25 PM

if you put warpaint on Americans, you'd be hard pressed to figure out who was a terrorist, & who was 'An American Patriot'...

have you YET heard a SINGLE American apologetic about the WORLDWIDE credit crisis?

hell no!

American EXCEPTIONALISM!!!

disgusting. humility? culpability? contrition?

hell no!

Posted by: BlueBerry Pick'n | Oct 7, 2008 3:06:14 PM

Obama has turned Democrat against Democrat. Women against Women. Races against Races.

So much for the Great Unifier.


Man, You folks me chuckle and wonder what medication you've be taking for the last 20 odd years. The great Unifer is Bush. The great Reformer is McCain (except when he is losing an election). Adjust your medication please.

Posted by: indy_voter | Oct 7, 2008 3:01:50 PM

before long....it won't really matter

Posted by: ........... | Oct 7, 2008 3:00:38 PM

"Incitement to violence is no joke."
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Hey: if Obama's associate Bill Ayers is just a "respected professor", incitement to violence must by perfectly okay.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 7, 2008 2:54:58 PM

Does McCain think we're some kind of third world country?

Republicans have always treated voters as a third world country that could be easily manipulated. McCain is simply riding the wave. He has sold his soul to the devil. Did anyone really believe that McCain a different type politician?

Posted by: indy_voter | Oct 7, 2008 2:50:13 PM

You guys should be ashamed of your selves, is this what you teach your children, Palin and Mccain are instigating this whole mess, thay are showing more of their racism everyday. If someone in Obama cowed yelled out to kill Mccain then that would be hoporific to you guys, but because Obama is not republican or a POW it is OK,What kind of world do we live in? I think the people at these rallies should be arrested, than they might realize that what they say is serious business.

Posted by: Donna | Oct 7, 2008 2:49:44 PM

Incitement to violence is no joke.

Palin and McCain are lighting a powder keg and must be held responsible for their actions.

Posted by: carla | Oct 7, 2008 2:47:09 PM

Incitement to violence is no joke.

Palin and McCain are lighting a powder keg and must be held responsible for their actions.

Posted by: carla | Oct 7, 2008 2:47:07 PM

"Not that it makes it any better, but I believe the remark was aimed at Ayers, not Obama. It is equally menacing when Obama supporters openly encourage threatening and intimidating behavior towards Republican voters."
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It IS "equally menacing": if they can't shout it down, or ridicule it, they WILL ... bomb it, arrest it, or whatever -- the Obama campaign is Stalinist, but with no socialist policy in health care, housing, and the like.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 7, 2008 2:30:07 PM

The Obama people have tried to get a similar "outrage" going in the past, when they acted like Hillary was pushing the idea that Obama be assassinated. All because she mentioned Bobby Kennedy's assassination.

I do not believe for one minute that anyone who has paid attention to the way Bush has been treated by protesters actually is as upset or shocked as they now pretend to be.

Posted by: MayBee | Oct 7, 2008 2:28:48 PM

Not that it makes it any better, but I believe the remark was aimed at Ayers, not Obama. It is equally menacing when Obama supporters openly encourage threatening and intimidating behavior towards Republican voters.

We are becoming Balkanized. Barney Frank just played the race card again. It's sad.

Posted by: American | Oct 7, 2008 2:23:07 PM

I don't understand why the less extreme Palin/McCain supporters are not embarrassed by these incidents and are not condemning them publicly.

Do all of those people in the crowd condone the racial slurs and hatred that Palin/McCain are inciting (and that now a few supporters have been caught on tape vocalizing)?

Do the Palin/McCain polling numbers adequately measure the level of fear/hatred/racism in our country?

That is what scares me the most, I think.

Posted by: nkb | Oct 7, 2008 2:22:35 PM

WISE UP AMERICANS!!

To McCain, Palin and the Republicans you are all just TERRORISTS AND COMMUNISTS if you do not hold the same beliefs that they do...

Look out if they get elected, as the only thing they will shake-up in Washington if they get elected is your rights!!!

Welcome to a Republican administration that will be even more secretive and evil that Bush/Cheney could have ever hoped to be...

Welcome to the Palin/McCain NEOCON POLICE STATE!!! Where you will be branded a communist and a terrorist if you do not agree with their right wing-nut evangelical views!!!

Vote for smart and inclusive leaders this time! Vote OBAMA/BIDEN '08!!!!

Posted by: Davis | Oct 7, 2008 2:10:10 PM

When I see some of the right wing slime, innuendo, and half truths that are peddled as "facts" on today's political sites, I sometimes wonder if Joe McCarthy isn't sitting in the Ninth Circle of Hell wishing that the internet had been around to help him out in 1954. What a time he could have had!

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Oct 7, 2008 2:08:26 PM

"few scattered comments by someone in a crowd of thousands"
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Possibly provocateurs from the Obama side. Things are NEVER what they seem, with Axelrod's mob-friendly campaigns.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 7, 2008 2:04:19 PM

This is mob mentality that the McCain/Palin camp is encouraging and it is a very dangerous and very troubling thing. They're appealing to their base and alienating everyone in the middle with this and the back lash will be huge and rchly deserved, because this sort of behavior at a political rally has no place in American Presidential politics. It reminds me of a fascist rally, and I do not use that term lightly. Create a scapegoat and raise questions about their patriotism and background and dehumanize. All with the noise pervading the web right now from the right wing blogs pushing propaganda to blame the financial credit problems onto....poor minorities? These are the people who ruined the financial markets??

It's grotesque and they can't be allowed to get away with that trash. The crisis has it's genesis and it's encouragement in the Republican ideology of free market fundamentalism. That quasi-religion of private sector good, government bad that has ruined the country under George W. Bush. There is some people to blame for what happened to the credit markets and it is the GOP. ANd they need to be voted out before they try and re-write history and give the rest of our tax dollars to irresponsible "private concerns."

Posted by: PMM - NYC | Oct 7, 2008 2:02:45 PM

Time to get real blunt. McCain and Palin are thinly disguised Fascist thugs.

It's a short step from banning books to burning them, and where they burn books, they ultimately burn people.

Posted by: rogerthomas | Oct 7, 2008 2:02:12 PM

McCain-Palin: a vote for secessionists, racists, bigots, and morons. This is one of the saddest moments in Presidential politics. This is what Michelle Obama was probably referring to when she said something to the effect of "I've had moments in my life where I wasn't proud of America." I am echoing the same right now. Very, very sad to see the GOP behaving this way...

Posted by: thevealchop | Oct 7, 2008 2:02:07 PM

McCain and Palin are spreading HATE across this country and I fear what will happen. How can they think it's OK to spread such hatered against a US Senator

MCcain has NO HONOR left and Palin was a joke to being with and now everyone has seen it for themselves.

Nice job McCain/Palin spreading HATE which could lead to violence across this country, that is NOT WHAT WE NEED. McCain/Palin are disgusting human beings

Posted by: tr | Oct 7, 2008 1:58:08 PM

God I hope Obama wins, I wanna see the rightwings collective heads explode. I may dislike John McCain but I dont want him to be assasinated. Some people in this country are truly deranged.

Posted by: Daniel | Oct 7, 2008 1:57:04 PM

Wow, seems like things haven't changed much since the Jim Crow South.

Shame on these people. Shame on McCain and Palin.

Posted by: James Smith | Oct 7, 2008 1:51:05 PM

Funny how those attributing these few scattered comments by someone in a crowd of thousands forget about the absolute HATRED spewed by their comrades at all the 'Peace Rallies' and protests over the past few years.

The effigies of soldiers and our President being burnt in the streets.

By your own logic, I'll ask - is THAT what we can expect if YOUR party wins?

If you're answer is no - then you cannot attribute the actions and words of a COUPLE of people to the entire GOP and its supporters.

Posted by: John | Oct 7, 2008 1:47:23 PM

Sarah Palin scares me and John McCain scares me more for picking her.


Posted by: gross | Oct 7, 2008 1:45:34 PM

"he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol'"
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With the exception of the NY explosion that killed Ayers' girlfriend, before he "went underground" with Dohrn, the BOMBINGS by the Weathermen weren't much, as armed struggle goes.

The MUCH more destructive thing Ayers and Dohrn did was appeal to the most savage instincts of the recipients of their endless publicity-seeking "communiques" -- including praising the Tate-LaBianca murders of the Manson gang, with a special focus on the fork which was stuck into the pregnant Sharon Tate.

The Weathermen's communiques wrecked the left, and put an end to the broad-based movement for social change which was well underway at the end of the 1960s. Some of those who followed the Weathermen wound up in prison for years and years, and were finally pardoned by President Clinton.

The fact that no legal consequences ever befell Ayers and Dohrn is SO unlikely that you gotta wonder whether they weren't COINTELPRO at THAT time, and whether the manufactured Obama "movement" isn't more of the same.

With McCain and Palin, at least you know what you're getting. With Obama, you may be getting a Stalinist dictatorship -- that's how the campaign's been run, especially in Missourt -- that will send dissenters away for brain-tuning on account of supposed "racism". Or God KNOWS what.

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 7, 2008 1:42:01 PM

"The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection." -Thomas Paine

Look what a little campaign trouble / distress does to McCain / Palin...No thanks!

Posted by: Steve | Oct 7, 2008 1:36:40 PM

clifton - you speak the truth!

"The tone set by Palin indicates the tone she would set as a leader.

Ugly, condescending, ignorant, trashy."

Posted by: cat8 | Oct 7, 2008 1:31:12 PM

"other then what Bill O'Reeeally pukes on them?"
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Bill O'Reilly most peculiarly soft-pedaled the Ayers matter, the facts of which -- chiefly that the mega-bucks Ayers family employed Obama -- were not then as well known as they are, for those who venture beyond the msm -- now.

The National Review forced the release of SOME information -- which was being sequestered by UIC -- on Ayers and Obama, but then the editor of National Review endorsed Obama.

Fact IS, the Abominoids seem more allied with the neocons than McCain-Palin do.

If Obama were what he pretends, why'd he vote for the bailout -- and, like other candidates AND the msm, conceal the fact that amounts in excess of the amount of the $700 billion "bailout" have ALSO been pumped into the financial corporations by the Treasury in the last week?

Posted by: Belle Starr | Oct 7, 2008 1:29:43 PM

Wow. It's a long-held legal precedent that you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. If that isn't what's going on here, I don't know what is. Arrests need to be made before words turn into action.

Posted by: DL | Oct 7, 2008 1:28:01 PM

McCain and Palin are willfully fueling the absolute worst of American hatred, which makes all of us worse for it. Neither candidate has said a word either in the moment or since then to indicate that they are appalled by it. And although I have seen much footage of Secret Service at McCain events escorting out war protesters or people yelling their objections, I have not yet seen or heard reports of them escorting out the people involved in the above instances.

If I were at a rally for Obama where someone near me said the sorts of things these people are saying, I would shout them down and point them out to security in order to help get them removed.

We are all hurt by this sort of hatred and anger and McCain and Palin are fueling it intentionally, as far as I can tell. At the very least, they are not doing anything to discourage it.

I am disgusted and scared. This country is better than that.


Posted by: DVS | Oct 7, 2008 1:26:33 PM

Getting ugly out there?

All I see is standard Republicans letting the mask slip a bit.

Posted by: BBpd | Oct 7, 2008 1:25:37 PM

"Character matters; leadership descends from character." - Rush Limbaugh

The real character of this ticket is emerging. It is not pretty.

Posted by: Rush L | Oct 7, 2008 1:24:51 PM

Someone here wrote, "Palin/McCain are dangerously close to inciting violence towards Obama and his supporters. The media needs to report this." By far the worst is Sandra Bernhard suggesting that Palin would be gang-raped by Bernhard's "big black brothers" if she showed up in NYC. Now that is not dangerously close, but crosses the line to actually incite violence against Palin AND it is blatant racism. Where's the reporting been on this?

Posted by: Kate | Oct 7, 2008 1:23:30 PM

mara,

Don't worry. Sarah told us at the debates that she is a tolerant person. Isn't that enough? I guess tolerance to her also means being tolerant of violence.

Posted by: indy_voter | Oct 7, 2008 1:22:06 PM

Why can't the Neo-Cons come up with anything bad about Obama other then what Bill O'Reeeally pukes on them?

Posted by: Jack | Oct 7, 2008 1:22:04 PM

"To my way of thinking, it’s not JUST Ayers. BO has a whole line of strange associates. And when you put all of them together it’s very uncomfortable. They are either racist, anti america, terrorists, or criminals.

Another thing is, BO lied ABOUT ALL OF THEM"
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The MOST important thing is that The CHANGEling "lied ABOUT ALL OF THEM", conTINues to lie about all of them, and is supPORted in lying about them by most of the mass media, most of the time.

Does Obama intend a socialist turnover of various huge sectors of the US? (By me, this would be a GOOD thing, especially in public health and pharmaceuticals areas, universal housing, and the like.)

Two problems about the seizure of state power by the "Obama" -- he's a figurehead for the corporations who've advanced him from Columbia to his present nomination -- machine:

1. Obama's backers may well intend a takeover which is NOT intended to better the situation of those dispossessed from the economy, including an unknown huge number of those actually homeless NOW, as the depression begins. The vile pronouncements of communications man Gibbs make this seem likely.

2. If Obama's backers DO intend some kind of socialist betterment of the condition of the mass of the people, they have certainly concealed it from anyone beyond the celebrity "left". It seems to me that this approach, if they ARE "socialists", invites unrest of any level, extending perhaps to civil war.


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