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Tough Crowd for Obama at Cape Fear BBQ and Chicken*
October 19, 2008 3:07 PM
In Fayetteville, NC, today, at Cape Fear BBQ and Chicken, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was greeted by a 54-year-old woman shouting "Socialist! Socialist! Socialist! Get out of here!"
The woman, Diane Fanning, who works at a Sam’s Club, was one of the many in the older and largely white crowd eating lunch after church services.
Sitting next to Fanning, Lenox Bramble, 76, gave her an angry look at her.
“Be civil, be courteous,” he said. He later told a reporter he's voting for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and doesn't think Obama has enough experience.
Another diner, Cecilia Hayslip, 61, yelled back at Fanning, “At least he’s not a war-monger!”
Obama came to the long table where Fanning was eating with fellow congregants from the local First Presbyterian church.
Obama held out his hand to her.
“How are you, ma’am?” he asked.
She refused to shake his hand.
She also immediately asked him about the "North American Union."
Obama assured her that there are no plans to create a common government between Mexico, the U.S. and Canada.
“I know some people have been hearing rumors about it," Obama said. "But as far as I can tell that’s just not something that’s happening. We would never give up our sovereignty in that way.”
He asked her if she had any other questions.
Restraining herself, Fanning said, “No, I’m not going to say it.”
“Well I appreciate that,” Obama responded.
Obama spoke with other, friendlier members of the congregation about health care, Social Security, and taxes.
Fanning explained their courtesy to a reporter, saying, “Some of ‘em are just nicer than I am. I know how some of ‘em think.”
The reception in this Red state diner was decidedly mixed.
“You’re doing a great job," Betty Waylett, 76, told Obama. Waylett's a Republican but says she plans to vote for Obama.
Pastor Randal Bremer, also at the table, relayed that Obama told him, “Whether you vote for me or not I’ll need your prayers.”
"I'm very impressed by his ability to meet people on a down-to-earth level," said Bremer, who plans to vote for McCain because he prefers smaller government and McCain's position on the Iraq war. "I don’t want to see (recent gains made in Iraq) damaged by a premature pull-out," he said.
To an older white man who said he's supporting McCain, Obama said, "Just because they’re voting for McCain doesn’t mean I can’t shake your hand,” Obama said to him as the man accepted his handshake. "Everybody’s going to have to come together after the election to get things done," the Democratic presidential nominee continued. "We’re all Americans. We all got to work together and John McCain is a good man.”
Nearby some others expressed something less than unbridled enthusiasm for Obama.
“I’m surprised, but I’m not going to say anything else,” said Pat Smith.
A group of six retired women, mostly Democrats, said they remained undecided.
“I have to pray about it, think about what’s best for our country,” said one of them, Dorothy Buie.
Fanning was aware of the endorsement Obama received today from Gen. Colin Powell (Ret.) but was unimpressed. “Colin Powell is a RINO, R-I-N-O, Republican In Name Only," she said.
Obama and his aides ordered to go chicken, collards, baked beans, slaw and wings. The tab was $13.91.
-- jpt
* This post was updated with some more quotes from ABC News' Sunlen Miller.
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The problem is law suits period. I got into a little tiny fender bender. No one hurt and ended up getting my butt sued off due to "soft tissue injuries."
Posted by: McStupid | Oct 19, 2008 9:20:46 PM
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Many lawsuits are certainly frivolous, but not all.
I know this from personal experience. More than 2 years ago, I was crossing the street when a vehicle hit me when it ran the light.
I suffered a broken leg, a brain injury, a broken nose, broken facial bones. I underwent 2 surgeries on my leg. I spent 9 days in the hospital in the neuro ICU. I lost 5 weeks of work. Later I had surgery to fix my nose. I spent over 3 months in physical therapy learning simply how to walk again. I spent nearly 5 months in occupational and cognition therapy (for problems related to the brain injury).
To this day, I continue to have some pain in my leg, I continue to have memory problems, sometimes I cannot find the right word. I tire very easily. I have more frequent headaches. I can no longer work in my profession as I do not have the required stamina: I cannot focus for long periods of time. I am still scared to cross the street.
Is a law suit not warranted?
I am not saying I'm some perpetual victim and I don't want to come across as a whiner, but a person's life can change (for the worse) dramatically in an instant (It took all of less than 5 seconds for the driver to hit me). When it's due to someone else's actions, in fairness that someone else has to pay for it.
Posted by: Not whining | Oct 21, 2008 1:31:38 AM
Government run Social Security is certainly socialist.There are more than a handful of countries that have had GREAT success with "private" social security (a certain percentage of your money goes into a PRIVATE account. So greedy politicians have no access to it)
Food stamps: Socialist
Medicaid: Socialist
Housing Aid: Socialist
The recent stimulus checks: Socialism in so far as those without any damn income got one.
Refundable tax credits despite receiving all federal withholding back: Socialist
Does this mean these programs are "bad"? With the exception of Social Security (currently used as a slush fund) it depends: Is the person receiving it using it as a hand-up? Or a hand-out?
As for what the recent bailout
It's actually a loan (will we see any of that money back?)
More like socialism is the recent actions taken that forced several of the largest banks to participate in a program in which the government would buy shares (not controlling but all the same).
Having read the details of what transpired during the meeting between the banks and Paulson read exactly like parts of Atlas Shrugged.
Scary.
Bottom line: Neither party can at this point take the high road against socialism. They're both guilty of violating several principles upon which this country was founded.
Posted by: my 2 cents | Oct 21, 2008 1:18:22 AM
Even though I made my decision for whom to vote quite some time ago, I have watched every debate, speech and news show, and read each and every article I can find, about both parties, AND have read each and every entry contained herein. It absolutely astounds me what people will say, do, yell and write, and what people will latch onto as "truth" and then continue to perpetuate without bothering to check to see if the actual facts prove that "truth" -- whether or not it is a truth which they can accept. Following this blog has been extraordinary -- and positively scary. I certainly do hope that there will be some fact-checking soon, before ignorance grows even more pervasive, and the name-calling escalates into something worse. There just isn't any place in the most historic election in the history of the United States of America for the ignorance, stupidy and devisiveness which is taking the place of intelligent, thoughtful, and knowledgeable information on which to base your vote. This goes beyond petty and sad, and scary. Our future, and the futures of our children, depend on our good judgment -- not on ignorance and stupidity.
Posted by: anne | Oct 20, 2008 9:17:54 PM
"I am a Democrat, Blip. I cannot support Obama because I do not trust him. Elect him and he will be "Mr. President" because that is our system, but trusting him is impossible. He like, he cheated, and he has misdirected. Nonesuch should serve as the commander-in-chief"
Hey "len" your post does not make any sense. If you do not trust Mr. Obama, back it up with some solid information.
Posted by: Dave | Oct 20, 2008 5:02:42 PM
Do any of you who have used the term "socialism" understand what it means? By the way, do you realize that our government has just spent 250 BILLION dollars to basically NATIONALIZE certain banks because it had to? That's a form of socialism. In this case, hopefully it will work.
I'm 60 years old - Diane Fanning is 54 - and would not insult a presidential candidate in such a way. Vote the way you wish, but VOTE!
Posted by: Dave | Oct 20, 2008 4:52:18 PM
Can't people be respectful to one another anymore?
Oh wait, the McCain-Palin campaign created this hateful divisiveness.
Have you noticed that Obama hasn't attacked McCain or Palin on a personal level? He has only gone after McCain's policies and plans. McCain and Palin only attack Obama on a personal level.
Kinda sad that the country is going backwards.
Posted by: mybrainreallyhurts | Oct 20, 2008 4:45:09 PM
"Republicans love to talk about how Obama supporters will riot if they lose."
It was Obama supporters who said that during the primaries.
I am a Democrat, Blip. I cannot support Obama because I do not trust him. Elect him and he will be "Mr. President" because that is our system, but trusting him is impossible. He like, he cheated, and he has misdirected. Nonesuch should serve as the commander-in-chief.
Posted by: len | Oct 20, 2008 2:03:35 PM
I wonder how many of these people go to an all white Sam's club,or hospital shopping center, school, park these are limbaugh and hannity groupies that have not reached past the bigoted times they have known for most of their lives the rest of the country have moved on while they are stuck on the age of being mean and hateful with closed mines.
Posted by: damehen | Oct 20, 2008 12:41:31 PM
you know you people make sick you accuse mmcain supporters of racisim and worse and you turn around and wear t shirts that say 'sarah palin is a **** 'and act like thats perfectly acceptable.god help this country. go pumas
Posted by: don tufts | Oct 20, 2008 12:40:54 PM
It's sad that young lady would say things like with the country in the shape it's in. I wonder if she ask the customers at sam's club if they are democrats, republicans or rino when they come to spend their money. If she has nothing good to say she she she should say nothing at all. I will try and locate at sam's club to see id she would shake my hand; i am a soldier. Some shallow folks think that Cloin Powell endorsed Obama because he's black, black people have been voting for years for the person they thought was the best candidate; it just happens to be someone that is black this time. America needs wake up do what is right.
Posted by: funk79 | Oct 20, 2008 11:49:41 AM
Len... What are you talking about?
Republicans love to talk about how Obama supporters will riot if they lose. Just because Obama is black... it doesn't mean that Obama supporters will riot... or that they are lower than Republicans. This is all just negative stereotypes.
On the other hand, you have out of control behavior at Republican rallies... where people chant "terrorist" and "kill him!" I spent most of my life voting for Republican candidates... and I have never seen this sort of behavior from Republicans. It is right to judge people based on bad behavior.
Acting and speaking violently are really bad things.
It is really dishonest to posit some equivalency between your negative stereotypes of blacks against the outlandish actions of McCain supporters. You imagine that blacks and Democrats are acting terribly... but in reality, Republicans actually are.
Posted by: Blip | Oct 20, 2008 11:07:30 AM
"Many Real Americans dont like Obama or his plans for the country, Obama is not going to win NC unless he does some voter fraud."
An interesting thing to say, considering one COULD argue that the GOP won the last two Presidential elections by *gulp* voter fraud.
Posted by: DP | Oct 20, 2008 11:07:07 AM
"Seriously, the kind of explosive rage that's out there is really bad for our country."
I agree. Do you think the Obama campaign can quit throwing gasoline on the fire he has been building since before the primaries?
Probably not. That is too bad. By January, even if he wins, he will not be able to govern because his wingnut supporters will have to go under the bus and then he is left with no base.
Posted by: len | Oct 20, 2008 10:34:38 AM
Blip | Oct 20, 2008 8:13:13 AM
"Many Real Americans dont like Obama or his plans for the country, Obama is not going to win NC unless he does some voter fraud."
What the are these real Americans? Do they live in the real America? Small towns with zero diversity in either people or ideas? Do I have to deny evolution, global warming, and homosexuals of their rights to be a real American? Do I also have to be a member of a dying party?
Posted by: Bleemer | Oct 20, 2008 10:24:32 AM
HI, TO ME PEOPLE ARE STILL IN THERE OLD AGE WAYS. THAT'S WHY WE NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SOMETHING NEW, SAME OLE POLITIC NOW LET'S SPEAK OF MCCAIN JUST TOO OLD JUST MIGHT GO INTO POST TRAUMATIC STRESS SYNDROME WHO TO SAY WHAT HE MIGHT DO.
WE AS A NATION CANNOT TKE THAT CHANCE MCCAIN BLOWING UP THE WORLD.
LIKE THE LADY SAY ATLEAST HE IS NOT A WARMONGER.JUST SOMEONE WHO WANT TO CHANGE YOUNG INTELLECTGENT SMART SPEAK WELL AND HAVE NEVER BEEN IN CAPTIVITY
THANK YOU.
Posted by: aka tattoo | Oct 20, 2008 9:35:36 AM
Boy... McCain really is working to agitate his base.
I'm worried that the Republicans are going to try to pick up their ball and go home if they lose this election.
Seriously, the kind of explosive rage that's out there is really bad for our country.
Posted by: Blip | Oct 20, 2008 8:13:13 AM
Have you noticed when ever Obama does these photo opportunities with a group of people who are not chosen by his campaign, it becomes embarrasing for him.
Many Real Americans dont like Obama or his plans for the country, Obama is not going to win NC unless he does some voter fraud.
Posted by: Greg h | Oct 20, 2008 7:02:11 AM
Even when Obama cheats thru ACORN, they discriminate. Mickey Mouse is registered but not Minnie Mouse... Do you hear that Hillary supporters.
Posted by: vs | Oct 20, 2008 5:32:23 AM
Could we have a credit report along with criminal background check on Diane now please?
Posted by: Yankee | Oct 20, 2008 5:29:11 AM
Seriously, some of you need to fix the holes in your tin foil hats!
Posted by: Rick | Oct 20, 2008 12:41:03 AM
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