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VA GOP Chief Compares Obama to Osama
October 12, 2008 3:52 PM
Time's Karen Tumulty spent some time in Virginia this week covering the ground game in that battleground state, and happened upon an interesting little scene.
In McCain's Gainesville, Va., office, Virginia Republican Party Chairman Jeff Frederick, standing on a folding chair, spoke to 30 campaign volunteers who were about to go canvassing door to door.
He gave them "talking points," Tumulty writes, "for instance, the connection between Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden."
Said Frederick: "Both have friends that bombed the Pentagon," in a reference to Obama acquaintance William Ayers. "That is scary."
Added a woman: "And he won't salute the flag."
(Not true.)
Offered a male volunteer: "We don't even know where Senator Obama was really born."
(Also not true.)
- jpt
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Who is Obama!
After repeated request, the Democratic Party and Obama fail to provide the following documents needed to clear the issue of Obama’s disqualification. As a result, Obama is considered disqualified by his own omission. Any attempts to provide information now will not be considered due to the extreme lapse of time and due to the possibility that further corruption would be involved to create favorable documents or destroy those less favorable.
(a) A certified copy of "vault" (original long version) birth certificate;
(b) Certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham;
(c) A certified copy Certification of Citizenship;
(d) A certified copy Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
(e) Certified copies of admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School;
(f) Certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing his name from Barry Soetoro.
(g) Verification of both American and Indonesian Passports under any of the aforementioned names.
By Obama hiring a team of lawyers to look for loopholes certifies without a doubt that Obama has perpetrated fraud by signing the document of certification stating he fully meets the qualification to run as the Democratic Presidential nominee when he knew he did not.
It is reasonable that these documents should be produced considering that his father is Kenyan, his adoptive father is Indonesian, and his grandmother claims to have been present at his birth in Kenya. If he is a natural born citizen then producing these documents should not be any problem.
When Obama’s mother remarried and moved to Indonesia, she had to denounce her and Obama’s U. S. citizenship (since dual citizenships were not allowed at that time) in order to obtain an Indonesian passport to enable them to stay in the country and for him to enter the Muslim school in Indonesia. When he returned to the U. S. to complete his education, his school and college records had to reflect his being a foreign exchange student .This would explain how Obama traveled to Indonesia and Pakistan during his college years without possessing a U.S. Passport. Records do not reflect Obama ever possessing a U.S. passport until he ran as Senator for Illinois.
Even if there would be any sympathy for the fact that Obama’s mother made the decision to renounce her and Obama’s U.S. citizenship thus cancelling out his “natural born status”, he cannot dismiss the fact that he knowingly traveled on that same foreign passport representing full acceptance of his mother’s decision. This was the option he took and was not coerced into making.
The issue of alias names comes into play that may be the reason why Obama refuses to produce the requested documents. Under what names would any of these documents appear: Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham or Barry Dunham and had proper applications been filed in the U.S. to allow the legal use of any other name than his birth name?
When did Obama actually denounce his Indonesian citizenship or did he? If he used one name on his Indonesian Passport and denounced that citizenship under another name then his Indonesian Passport is still active, and he willingly committed fraud by taking the oath of allegiance to the U.S.! If he continued the charade and filed the necessary documentation to be recertified as an American citizen, due to his assumed Hawaiian birth, and had signed the oath of allegiance under the same pretense of the different alias he has compounded the charge of fraud.
Obama’s continued refusal to cooperate is taken as an assumption of guilt, a attempt to commit fraud, a betrayal of the people’s trust, and an attempt to deliberately circumvent our constitution .
We demand immediately action be taken. If he does not willingly step down, he should be arrested prior to the inauguration ceremony otherwise he will be considered a usurper, someone who does not qualify as our President, and will not receive our support nor will anything he places his signature one be considered legal.
He should not be allowed to continue with this charade under any circumstances nor be able to take up residency in the White House, otherwise a new scandal “ Obamagate” will result and will further discredit the Democratic Party and the integrity of our country.
The Democratic Chairman, Nancy Pelosi who attested to that fact that Obama did meet the full qualification by not coming forward to correct this travesty of injustice should be impeached for her involvement in continuing the charade together with other top officials involved.
Regardless of the type of documentation, when anyone denounces their U.S. citizenship, they can no longer be considered a “natural born “citizen. If they file the appropriate documentation they can be reclassified, but then they become a “naturalized citizen” incapable of qualifying as a Presidential nominee. If they do not file the appropriate documentation, they are considered and illegal immigrant. Which one is Obama, a “naturalized citizen or an illegal immigrant”?
The amount of anger presently shown on the internet will continue to grow. A number of the Obama voters are now demanding a revote due to a majority of the news media’s failure to report both sides of the election process. Had they known, Obama would not have received their vote.
If our news media refuses to report the facts shown in this communication, they should receive punishment for the bias commentary they promoted throughout the entire campaign.
We demand we be afforded the degree of justice we are entitled to under the laws of our government through the constitution and our civil rights. When more rights are given to one side versus that of the other, our government is promoting discrimination and civil unrest. If we were involved in this type of charade, we would have been investigated immediately and placed in jail. This type of discriminatory practice should not be allowed.
If our government allows this charade to continue and Obama to be inaugurated the only action left is impeachment. Knowing that the Democratic Party will not impeach Obama, as they themselves are involved, we will consider this a ploy to divert the people’s attention. But we will not be brushed aside.
We will be relentless in taking this situation as far as necessary: In addition to Impeachment, to pursue a full investigation into potential fraud involving Obama’s campaign funding, the Acorn $800,000 contribution and voter fraud, the Obama, Kerry and Dodd’s $100,000+excessive contribution by Fannie Mae and Freddie Max and the overall financial crisis caused by Obama and the Democratic Party, his involvement with other controversy within the State of Illinois. At this point, we prefer to keep our involvement with the Presidential election process.
I hope there are a sufficient number of African Americans with integrity that realize this is not an issue about race, but about an individual that manipulated and perpetrated one of the best frauds in political history (with the help of the Democratic Party) when he duped a majority of people into believing his lies. He destroyed the opportunity for an honorable African American to become the first President of the United States due to his deception. Why the Democratic Party could not have found an African American with more integrity similar to Collin Powell, I do not know. For I believe they could have found someone if they looked hard enough. Any anger resulting from this disaster should be addressed against the Democratic Party for their part in causing this dilemma.
Posted by: Joanofarc | Jan 7, 2009 1:48:50 AM
Maybe lets just respect each others vote. Honestly I dont think anyone of us knows everything about the candidates lively hood. Who is lying and who is being honest. Vote your gut feeling and see what happens. Personally I am voting Mcclain because thats my gut feeling and that I cant seem to get over the Musluim name. Example of the economy being the biggest problem it's going to take lots of organization and time.
Posted by: Cathy | Oct 28, 2008 12:08:53 PM
Mr. Frederick continues, as he has for years, to embarrass himself and his "party." Libertarians and Conservative Democrats (a.k.a. rational people with whom I have philosophical differences) should continue to identify this kind of hate-mongering fear-based fact-ignoring rhetorical nonsense as patently Republican (a.k.a. the new Bushian ideology of kill-those-unlike-me). Mr. Frederick is a delusional man that, like all members of the Rove Machine, fabricates information that scares people or rallies the hate-loving or frightened. The "genius" of the Rove Machine is rapidly falling apart PRECISELY because of this tactic. People now see through it because they're finally waking up to the fact that now more than ever the government is lying to its people, not serving it. If I have to compare one of the presidential candidates to a terrorist, it's the one on the right. Frederick = Bush = High Chancellor Sutler. If it smells like an autocratic fascist, talks like an autocratic fascist, and thinks like an autocratic fascist... it's probably a Republican. Conservatives, I beg you: leave the party and form a new one. Here's to Democrats and Libertarians in a SERIOUS election in 2016.
Posted by: KDR | Oct 14, 2008 8:48:40 PM
John McCain has got to be kidding. He has to get a hold on this or it is going to lead to something bad. John McCain has to educate his ignorant campaign people. This is really bad. I am totsally ashamed of the way the McCain folks have steered the campaign. I am really scared of McCain-Palin.
Posted by: DTS | Oct 13, 2008 11:01:29 PM
I am heartened that there are still thoughtful and responsible Republicans who put country and doing the right thing above the White House grab at all costs.
McCain has shown his inability to lead and make wise judgements. Dont drag the country down with this sinking ship.
Posted by: politicobug | Oct 13, 2008 10:48:28 PM
Firstly, I want to state to my fellow Democrats, that to blemish McCain by stating that he was perhaps brainwashed by the Vietnam/USSR while being held, is lowering yourself to what the McCain/Palin people are doing to Obama and you should be ashamed and more responsible.
Secondly, for those who state that if Obama gets in, things will worsen....well, as far as I can see it, I do not see any way, other than falling into another Great Depression, that things could get worse. We are in a war....we are laughed at, scorned by the international community, our economy is as close to disaster as you can get...unemployment is so high, double digit in certain states...gas prices....kids education funds out the windows...big corps. getting big breaks and 'joe US' getting none...and the list goes on. I do not know whether if Obama wins, that we will be better or worse, but it is better than remaining stagnant and at least being led by a man who is not after self interest and not trying to maintain his wealth through his job as Obama has no landed wealth....unlike the GOP leaders. Perhaps if issues were stuck to and personal crap thrown out, the choices would be easier but since the mud is getting thicker via the Virginia OP putting out the Obama=Osama ad, endorsed by McCain/Palin, has taken us to a new low, nevertheless the shouts of "Kill Him", in reference to Obama in Wisconsin last week. I have never been to Wisconsin so that may be the norm for them, but it is so unAmerican not to mention cruel, lies, unethical, brutal and embarrasing. We are in the eyes of the world, and not in a good way...pull it together people. I am ashamed by both sides right now. Excuse bad typing but broken arm.
Posted by: garyNYC | Oct 13, 2008 7:58:45 PM
This country has to wake up to this form of republican rhetoric which stems directly from the present Bush administration which has consistently lied to the citizens to gain its way and destroy the real american way of life. The Republican party will lose all unless they wake up and get rid of persons like this who will say and do anything to get their way: however misguided or wrong they may be1d Finally.,is this gentlement a
Christian?????
Posted by: grgibbs | Oct 13, 2008 3:57:56 PM
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Am I the only person that loves this America we have? I fought to protect her once, or so I thought. I just don’t understand. John McCain was in the enemy’s hands for five and one-half years. He acknowledged that they broke him, just how much we don’t know. The enemy was, at the time, Vietnam, North Korea, China, Romania, Bulgaria, East Germany and the Soviet Union, plus a multitude of smaller communist countries. Mr. McCain was in their hands and was tortured by them, not for information you understand. Did they make him a MOLE? The CIA was researching and experimenting with “brain-washing” techniques at the time, so was the ENEMY, all of them. The Russians, Cubans and the Chinese routinely assisted the North Vietnamese in “questioning” the POWs that were in their hands. They used drugs in their interrogations.
I have known many X-POWs from Vietnam and I even had one as a business partner for over five years that spent 7 1/2 years as a POW. I heard the stories about “quiz time” from him, read that as “torture time”. They weren’t tortured for information, it is well known that any information is worthless 24 hours after their capture. They were tortured for “other” reasons. We (military personnel) were all trained for what to do after being taken prisoner. One thing I noticed, stories were repeated daily. Some feel “special” like McCain some don’t. All X-POWs were affected with PTSD, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Like most Vietnam Vets, PTSD and other emotional difficulties were hidden or not discussed at discharge and most never got treated for their disability. Can anyone tell me that McCain was unaffected? Cindy McCain says he wasn’t affected because he went to the Navy Academy, yea right that makes me feel better. I had Escape and Evasion at Tigerland Ft. Polk Lousianna in 1968, I learned more there than any Academy plebe ever did, just ask any other Tigerland graduate! We all know he was affected. He had Stockholm syndrome and didn’t want to leave Vietnam when he had the chance. A temper is also a good indicator, so I have been told by doctors at the Veteran’s Affairs Hospital in Richmond. Believe me, I thank Mr. McCain for his service. After all, he wasn’t shot down only once. He lost a few airplanes I have read.
WHY ARE THE REPUBLICANS SO INTENT ON PUTTING SOMEONE LIKE McCAIN IN CHARGE? WE SHOULD NOT TRUST HIM. THE NAVY DIDN’T TRUST HIM ENOUGH TO ALLOW HIM TO FLY ANY OF THEIR AIRPLANES WHEN HE RETURNED HOME, NOT EVEN A PROP JOB. WE CAN’T AFFORD TO FOLLOW SOMEONE THAT MIGHT BE AN AGENT OF OUR ENEMIES AND ALLOW HIM TO CONTROL OUR MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND NUKES. DON’T YOU GIVE A DAMN? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? YOU SHOULD.
Posted by: whitey | Oct 13, 2008 3:11:02 PM
Even the Ayers thing was somewhat true, but now bringing in OSAMA? It's disgusting how they're trying to play on fears of Obama's name and hinting at connections with terrorists.
Well, NEWSFLASH, GOP, if anyone's been a friend of Osama, it's been W and McCain. The terrorists would love for the US to continue the Iraq War. Al-Qaeda has received increased support from disillusioned and angry Iraqis who blame America for state their country is in. It adds to Al-Qaeda's credibility that America is an oppressor and legitimizes the cause.
When Bush invaded Iraq, Al-Qaeda was in Afghanistan. On that day in 2003, somewhere in the mountains, Osama was laughing.
Posted by: Grey Matter | Oct 13, 2008 10:27:42 AM
Jake, I really appreciate the way you report incredulous and stupid statements and actually comment on the truthfulness of those comment.
Too often the media actually serve as the conduit of misinformation by refusing to call a lie a lie, and by hiding behind objectivity and reporting. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: Getty | Oct 13, 2008 6:13:11 AM
This stuff is backfiring. McCain's and Palin's negatives are up. Obama's positives are up. Swing voters don't like this stuff any more than they like angry mobs.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Oct 13, 2008 5:55:40 AM
Jake, honest question. How does the behaviour of four obviously idiotic hipsters in Philly earn the tag "vile" But this...individual does not. The Philly four are idots but they have no authority and arent Dems. This...person is a Rep. party chair. He would seem to have also earned the "vile" moniker.
Posted by: john | Oct 13, 2008 2:15:47 AM
Wow, McCain-Palin supporters out in droves tonight!! Are you practicing your nastiness and scare tactics for Halloween? How can you McCain followers persist in spewing your false statements when they have all been debunked?? All of your crazy rantings are similiar to those of McCain and his high-heeled hyena with lipstick. Their rantings are crazy too!! McCain is NO war hero, he never did anything extraordinary while in the U.S. Navy. How long did he actually serve in Viet Nam before getting himself shot down? He claims his captors injured his arms, this is BS. He injured his arms because he did not know how to eject from his aircraft!! His arms were already broken when he was captured. He was also known as the Hanoi Songbird because he provided his captors with intelligence and information and put his comrades in great danger. McCain is NO hero, he is a lying ZERO!! NO integrity, NO honesty, and NO character!! He has lied about his service and his POW days all of his life and sadly he believes his lies!! Just recently he addressed his audience with, "My fellow PRISONERS". The man believes he is still in the Hanoi Hotel!! Scarier--he did NOT correct himself!! McCain's mind is deteriorating at a pretty fast pace---it is called dementia!!
Posted by: NinaK | Oct 13, 2008 1:35:35 AM
Republicanism is not a mental disorder, rather a lack of common sense. I'd rather be a nut than a mindless dumb@$$!
Posted by: Obamatized | Oct 13, 2008 1:31:52 AM
here is some irny for all you McPalin losers.
1. The 14th Amendment and matching policy limit citizenship to either natural born or naturalized, but not both.
2. John McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to citizen parents.
3. 8 USC 1403(a) declares naturalized citizenship in 1952 on persons born in the Canal Zone to citizen parents.
4. Therefore, 8 USC 1403(a) applies to John McCain at age 16.
5. Therefore, John McCain is a naturalized citizen.
6. By treaty, the Canal Zone was not part of the United States.
7. Therefore, John McCain was not born in the United States.
8. Therefore, John McCain is a citizen not born in the United States.
9. Therefore, John McCain is not a natural born citizen.
10. Article II of the Constitution states to be President a person must be a natural born citizen.
11. THEREFORE, John McCain is not eligible to be President of the United States under Article II of the Constitution;
he should be decertified and removed from all present and future Presidential ballots; and his past results should be disallowed,
including unbinding all of his committed delegates.
Posted by: Obamatized | Oct 13, 2008 1:27:58 AM
It's bad enough that the wingnuts who attend rallies say bs like this, but for the head of the GOP in Virginia to come up with such nonsense is unforgivable.
For the umpty umpth time: Obama is NOT responsible for the actions a person who happens to be on the Annenberg board, a board on which sit MANY Republicans, did when he was eight years old!
And if we're talking about "guilt by association," that would make McCain guilty too. And hey, what about G. Gordon Liddy? McCain's his pal! And his campaign manager was being paid by a firm associated with Fannie until last month.
And Sarah Palin's husband wanted Alaska to secede from the union, nad she's been treated by a witch doctor.
The Republicans are hypocrites. When a party organizer comes out and deliberately spreads such hatespeech I now feel that the entire party are treasonous and un-American. I pray that people don't fall for this kind of McCarthyism.
Posted by: gwen | Oct 13, 2008 1:22:22 AM
This is interesting how McCain's campaign members are spreading hate. Another one was that crackpot woman at McCain's Friday night rally is another one spewing hate. She actually admitted getting the 'information' from a library that Obama is an Arab, went to the local Kinko's to make copies of it and mailed them to McCain supporters.
To Lexi I don't believe you really asked that question. What proof do you require that Obama was born in the US? You believe what you want to believe, but in the end you and others like you are not only pitiful but scary.
Posted by: Etoile | Oct 12, 2008 11:52:49 PM
Vote out of merit not based on racism! As a black man, I have high regard for McCain but I will vote for Obama because McCain has nothing to offer. Anyone who is a good friend of McCain should advise him that at the age of 72, retirement is the appropriate course for him.
Posted by: Oma | Oct 12, 2008 11:49:58 PM
I found these articles from a Chicago newspaper... I thought I'd pass them along so you can read for yourselves the kind of "CHANGE" you can expect from OBAMA ...Not the kind of change I want.
Posted by: tammy | Oct 12, 2008 11:37:46 PM
Okay children, time for bed, and don't be scared by McCain and Palin, they won't last more than just a few more weeks, honest, they'll be gone right after Halloween.
Posted by: Sylvia Carlsson | Oct 12, 2008 11:06:30 PM
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