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Maybe lets just respect each others vote. Honestly I dont think anyone of us knows everything about the candidates lively hood. Who is lying and who is being honest. Vote your gut feeling and see what happens. Personally I am voting Mcclain because thats my gut feeling and that I cant seem to get over the Musluim name. Example of the economy being the biggest problem it's going to take lots of organization and time.

Mr. Frederick continues, as he has for years, to embarrass himself and his "party." Libertarians and Conservative Democrats (a.k.a. rational people with whom I have philosophical differences) should continue to identify this kind of hate-mongering fear-based fact-ignoring rhetorical nonsense as patently Republican (a.k.a. the new Bushian ideology of kill-those-unlike-me). Mr. Frederick is a delusional man that, like all members of the Rove Machine, fabricates information that scares people or rallies the hate-loving or frightened. The "genius" of the Rove Machine is rapidly falling apart PRECISELY because of this tactic. People now see through it because they're finally waking up to the fact that now more than ever the government is lying to its people, not serving it. If I have to compare one of the presidential candidates to a terrorist, it's the one on the right. Frederick = Bush = High Chancellor Sutler. If it smells like an autocratic fascist, talks like an autocratic fascist, and thinks like an autocratic fascist... it's probably a Republican. Conservatives, I beg you: leave the party and form a new one. Here's to Democrats and Libertarians in a SERIOUS election in 2016.

John McCain has got to be kidding. He has to get a hold on this or it is going to lead to something bad. John McCain has to educate his ignorant campaign people. This is really bad. I am totsally ashamed of the way the McCain folks have steered the campaign. I am really scared of McCain-Palin.

I am heartened that there are still thoughtful and responsible Republicans who put country and doing the right thing above the White House grab at all costs.

McCain has shown his inability to lead and make wise judgements. Dont drag the country down with this sinking ship.

Firstly, I want to state to my fellow Democrats, that to blemish McCain by stating that he was perhaps brainwashed by the Vietnam/USSR while being held, is lowering yourself to what the McCain/Palin people are doing to Obama and you should be ashamed and more responsible.
Secondly, for those who state that if Obama gets in, things will worsen....well, as far as I can see it, I do not see any way, other than falling into another Great Depression, that things could get worse. We are in a war....we are laughed at, scorned by the international community, our economy is as close to disaster as you can get...unemployment is so high, double digit in certain states...gas prices....kids education funds out the windows...big corps. getting big breaks and 'joe US' getting none...and the list goes on. I do not know whether if Obama wins, that we will be better or worse, but it is better than remaining stagnant and at least being led by a man who is not after self interest and not trying to maintain his wealth through his job as Obama has no landed wealth....unlike the GOP leaders. Perhaps if issues were stuck to and personal crap thrown out, the choices would be easier but since the mud is getting thicker via the Virginia OP putting out the Obama=Osama ad, endorsed by McCain/Palin, has taken us to a new low, nevertheless the shouts of "Kill Him", in reference to Obama in Wisconsin last week. I have never been to Wisconsin so that may be the norm for them, but it is so unAmerican not to mention cruel, lies, unethical, brutal and embarrasing. We are in the eyes of the world, and not in a good way...pull it together people. I am ashamed by both sides right now. Excuse bad typing but broken arm.

This country has to wake up to this form of republican rhetoric which stems directly from the present Bush administration which has consistently lied to the citizens to gain its way and destroy the real american way of life. The Republican party will lose all unless they wake up and get rid of persons like this who will say and do anything to get their way: however misguided or wrong they may be1d Finally.,is this gentlement a
Christian?????

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Am I the only person that loves this America we have? I fought to protect her once, or so I thought. I just don’t understand. John McCain was in the enemy’s hands for five and one-half years. He acknowledged that they broke him, just how much we don’t know. The enemy was, at the time, Vietnam, North Korea, China, Romania, Bulgaria, East Germany and the Soviet Union, plus a multitude of smaller communist countries. Mr. McCain was in their hands and was tortured by them, not for information you understand. Did they make him a MOLE? The CIA was researching and experimenting with “brain-washing” techniques at the time, so was the ENEMY, all of them. The Russians, Cubans and the Chinese routinely assisted the North Vietnamese in “questioning” the POWs that were in their hands. They used drugs in their interrogations.
I have known many X-POWs from Vietnam and I even had one as a business partner for over five years that spent 7 1/2 years as a POW. I heard the stories about “quiz time” from him, read that as “torture time”. They weren’t tortured for information, it is well known that any information is worthless 24 hours after their capture. They were tortured for “other” reasons. We (military personnel) were all trained for what to do after being taken prisoner. One thing I noticed, stories were repeated daily. Some feel “special” like McCain some don’t. All X-POWs were affected with PTSD, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Like most Vietnam Vets, PTSD and other emotional difficulties were hidden or not discussed at discharge and most never got treated for their disability. Can anyone tell me that McCain was unaffected? Cindy McCain says he wasn’t affected because he went to the Navy Academy, yea right that makes me feel better. I had Escape and Evasion at Tigerland Ft. Polk Lousianna in 1968, I learned more there than any Academy plebe ever did, just ask any other Tigerland graduate! We all know he was affected. He had Stockholm syndrome and didn’t want to leave Vietnam when he had the chance. A temper is also a good indicator, so I have been told by doctors at the Veteran’s Affairs Hospital in Richmond. Believe me, I thank Mr. McCain for his service. After all, he wasn’t shot down only once. He lost a few airplanes I have read.

WHY ARE THE REPUBLICANS SO INTENT ON PUTTING SOMEONE LIKE McCAIN IN CHARGE? WE SHOULD NOT TRUST HIM. THE NAVY DIDN’T TRUST HIM ENOUGH TO ALLOW HIM TO FLY ANY OF THEIR AIRPLANES WHEN HE RETURNED HOME, NOT EVEN A PROP JOB. WE CAN’T AFFORD TO FOLLOW SOMEONE THAT MIGHT BE AN AGENT OF OUR ENEMIES AND ALLOW HIM TO CONTROL OUR MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND NUKES. DON’T YOU GIVE A DAMN? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? YOU SHOULD.

Even the Ayers thing was somewhat true, but now bringing in OSAMA? It's disgusting how they're trying to play on fears of Obama's name and hinting at connections with terrorists.

Well, NEWSFLASH, GOP, if anyone's been a friend of Osama, it's been W and McCain. The terrorists would love for the US to continue the Iraq War. Al-Qaeda has received increased support from disillusioned and angry Iraqis who blame America for state their country is in. It adds to Al-Qaeda's credibility that America is an oppressor and legitimizes the cause.

When Bush invaded Iraq, Al-Qaeda was in Afghanistan. On that day in 2003, somewhere in the mountains, Osama was laughing.

Jake, I really appreciate the way you report incredulous and stupid statements and actually comment on the truthfulness of those comment.

Too often the media actually serve as the conduit of misinformation by refusing to call a lie a lie, and by hiding behind objectivity and reporting. Keep up the good work.

This stuff is backfiring. McCain's and Palin's negatives are up. Obama's positives are up. Swing voters don't like this stuff any more than they like angry mobs.

Jake, honest question. How does the behaviour of four obviously idiotic hipsters in Philly earn the tag "vile" But this...individual does not. The Philly four are idots but they have no authority and arent Dems. This...person is a Rep. party chair. He would seem to have also earned the "vile" moniker.

Wow, McCain-Palin supporters out in droves tonight!! Are you practicing your nastiness and scare tactics for Halloween? How can you McCain followers persist in spewing your false statements when they have all been debunked?? All of your crazy rantings are similiar to those of McCain and his high-heeled hyena with lipstick. Their rantings are crazy too!! McCain is NO war hero, he never did anything extraordinary while in the U.S. Navy. How long did he actually serve in Viet Nam before getting himself shot down? He claims his captors injured his arms, this is BS. He injured his arms because he did not know how to eject from his aircraft!! His arms were already broken when he was captured. He was also known as the Hanoi Songbird because he provided his captors with intelligence and information and put his comrades in great danger. McCain is NO hero, he is a lying ZERO!! NO integrity, NO honesty, and NO character!! He has lied about his service and his POW days all of his life and sadly he believes his lies!! Just recently he addressed his audience with, "My fellow PRISONERS". The man believes he is still in the Hanoi Hotel!! Scarier--he did NOT correct himself!! McCain's mind is deteriorating at a pretty fast pace---it is called dementia!!

Republicanism is not a mental disorder, rather a lack of common sense. I'd rather be a nut than a mindless dumb@$$!

here is some irny for all you McPalin losers.

1. The 14th Amendment and matching policy limit citizenship to either natural born or naturalized, but not both.
2. John McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to citizen parents.
3. 8 USC 1403(a) declares naturalized citizenship in 1952 on persons born in the Canal Zone to citizen parents.
4. Therefore, 8 USC 1403(a) applies to John McCain at age 16.
5. Therefore, John McCain is a naturalized citizen.
6. By treaty, the Canal Zone was not part of the United States.
7. Therefore, John McCain was not born in the United States.
8. Therefore, John McCain is a citizen not born in the United States.
9. Therefore, John McCain is not a natural born citizen.
10. Article II of the Constitution states to be President a person must be a natural born citizen.
11. THEREFORE, John McCain is not eligible to be President of the United States under Article II of the Constitution;
he should be decertified and removed from all present and future Presidential ballots; and his past results should be disallowed,
including unbinding all of his committed delegates.

It's bad enough that the wingnuts who attend rallies say bs like this, but for the head of the GOP in Virginia to come up with such nonsense is unforgivable.

For the umpty umpth time: Obama is NOT responsible for the actions a person who happens to be on the Annenberg board, a board on which sit MANY Republicans, did when he was eight years old!

And if we're talking about "guilt by association," that would make McCain guilty too. And hey, what about G. Gordon Liddy? McCain's his pal! And his campaign manager was being paid by a firm associated with Fannie until last month.

And Sarah Palin's husband wanted Alaska to secede from the union, nad she's been treated by a witch doctor.

The Republicans are hypocrites. When a party organizer comes out and deliberately spreads such hatespeech I now feel that the entire party are treasonous and un-American. I pray that people don't fall for this kind of McCarthyism.

This is interesting how McCain's campaign members are spreading hate. Another one was that crackpot woman at McCain's Friday night rally is another one spewing hate. She actually admitted getting the 'information' from a library that Obama is an Arab, went to the local Kinko's to make copies of it and mailed them to McCain supporters.

To Lexi I don't believe you really asked that question. What proof do you require that Obama was born in the US? You believe what you want to believe, but in the end you and others like you are not only pitiful but scary.

Vote out of merit not based on racism! As a black man, I have high regard for McCain but I will vote for Obama because McCain has nothing to offer. Anyone who is a good friend of McCain should advise him that at the age of 72, retirement is the appropriate course for him.

I found these articles from a Chicago newspaper... I thought I'd pass them along so you can read for yourselves the kind of "CHANGE" you can expect from OBAMA ...Not the kind of change I want.

Okay children, time for bed, and don't be scared by McCain and Palin, they won't last more than just a few more weeks, honest, they'll be gone right after Halloween.

Jake,

Are you saying that you have first-hand, personal knowledge of where Obama was born?

Explain your first-hand knowledge.

Lexi

Mr Frederick is a nitwit, unfortunately for him and those around him... a fearful man with a narrow perspective. Move on, next news story.....

acorn, ayers, yada yada yada....it did not work----wrong tactic.

Call mccain central and check it out.....they're not wasting their time there anymore, so why are YOU?

It was a TACTIC...read below....a TACTIC....that failed. GET IT??? it was FAKE....

don't worry...they'll let you know what to think soon.
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ASSOCIATED PRESS----TODAY

Palin opened the series of blistering assaults by accusing Obama of "palling around with terrorists."

On Sunday, one man shouted out "Obama loves terrorists" as Palin talked about "the bad guys."

But as the polls showed Obama widening his lead, the Republicans apparently decided the tactic had proven fruitless and shifted course back to vows to revamp Washington, blaming politicians and greedy Wall Street executives for the worst financial crisis to face the country in 80 years.

If only Obama wore a flag pin at ALL TIMES. Then he's be presidential.
If only Obama had no friends or aquaintances atall, then I could vote for him. If only Obama had a different name, then I could vote for him. Too bad, I'll have to vote for McCain, who will make my health insurance more expensive and more confusing to choose, who will continue to funnel my tax money up up up to the 'good' rich people who will trickle it down upon us, perhaps? Yes, I am stuck with the same strategies of the past eight years, just because of a name and a lapel pin and friendships with people who no longer matter.

MCcain---iacs!!!

just so you know that you didnt' get the call from mccain to let you know the new strategy you are supposed to blindly follow for him, a little more on this
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ASSOCIATED PRESS----TODAY

Palin opened the series of blistering assaults by accusing Obama of "palling around with terrorists."

On Sunday, one man shouted out "Obama loves terrorists" as Palin talked about "the bad guys."

But as the polls showed Obama widening his lead, the Republicans apparently decided the tactic had proven fruitless and shifted course back to vows to revamp Washington, blaming politicians and greedy Wall Street executives for the worst financial crisis to face the country in 80 years.
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OOOOPS! CALL THE BOSS AND FIND OUT HOW YOU SHOULD BLOG FROM NOW ON....OH DEAR.

What, you didnt' KNOW that the AYERS thing was just a smokescreen campaign PLOY??????

This just goes to show you that the liberals would rather burn America for power than to actually vote the country first.

Truely pathetic!

I am so glad that it is liberals that are for abortion.

If McCane has an ounce of self-respect left, he will render a public apology to the American People - Republicans and Democrats - for the racist hate-filled dangerous divisive demagoguery of his campaign.

The McCain we see on the campaign trail is not the McCain that many once admired if not for any other reason, his service in the US Armed Forces and the years of his life he had to sacrifice as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. My Republican friends are saddened by the fact that McCain in a desperate attempt to win the presidential election at all costs, irrevocably tarnish his own reputation and legacy. I personally don't think that there is much of reputation to tarnish - other than perhaps the carefully crafted public persona McCain has created for himself. The reality, given his ties to criminals like Gordon Liddy (of Watergate notoriety, an advocate of domestic terrorism), his cosy relationship with Cuban terrorists, and his and his wife Cindy McCain's intimate connections with organized crime, is much uglier.

As for Sarah Pallin, David Brooks, a dyed-in-the-wool Bill Buckleyite conservative is right on the mark when he called Sarah Palin "a fatal cancer to the Republican Party". In other words, the Republican party has a deadly case of SARAH PALINOMA.

If the Republican Party does not want to lose all those decent Republicans who are getting disgusted with McCane-Palin candidacy, it needs to denounce the McCain-Palin candidacy and focus on tough task ahead - that of rebuilding the Republican Party on the principles thatthe great Republican luminaries Abraham Lincoln stood for.

Mayor Daley of Chicago says that Obama and Ayers are friends so what. Why didn't Obama show americans the courtesy of an answer like that 1 1/2 years ago. No, he would rather lie to us for 1 1/2 years and incrementally change his story when his lies are exposed. Obama promised change, but delivered the same old coverup we get time and time from Washington.

I saw Obama when the national anthem was being played and he looked board and he didn't place his hand over his heart. Everytime I hear the star spangled banner, I get a surge of emotion. I would hope that a potential future president would feel something other than boredom when the national anthem plays.

Wow, LeeLee. I give - you win. I hope you vote absentee for your own sake. Please, before you do though, take a look at any current electoral map projection. Then remember, your vote counts only once. Thank goodness.

"Talking about picking friends huh. How about looking up John McCain's buddy - Jack Abramoff. Way to rip off the original 'Americans'"

Yeah, how 'bout that? Nothing like that guy Ayers though. That guy really "blows" me away! :D

By the way, you do know that 3 of the Keating Five have endorsed your Messiah, The Tainted One, right?

ROFLMAO!!!

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” - Susan B. Anthony

This is just the way these "moral" people operate

Considering Obama’s commanding lead in the polls, I guess the short sellers in the stock market are pricing in Obama’s victory. We have 20+ day before the election. Dear Dow, welcome to 1,000 level!

Talking about picking friends huh. How about looking up John McCain's buddy - Jack Abramoff. Way to rip off the original 'Americans'.

Yeah, I did the comparision check between Obama's life and McCain's life.

Not even a contest, Obama has no senatorial records (he says they are lost), medical records, educational records and no real birth certificate.

Nope, not even close.

Voting for McCain - with or without Palin.

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” - Susan B. Anthony

I must say I find this all hard to believe...That democrats are so so very desperate to get a dem in the white house that they will overlook all the underlying questions that Obama just sweeps under the rug...Let me give you all facts...Obama is friends with bill Ayers who is a known domestic terrorist..Was involved with Tony Rezco a convicted Felon which also helped Obama do some shady dealing to get his big fancy house in Hyde Park who just happens to be in the same neighborhood as Ayers Rezco Wright who was Obamas Pastor for 20 years who preached words of hate and louis Farrakhan who and I quote called Obama the Messiah...Have ya ever noticed that the only time Obama denounces any one is when it could hurt his political career??? Are you democrats that desperate to have control ? I am neither a Rep. Or Dem. I vote the best choice.And clearly McCain in this case is the best choice. You see if Obama can show such poor judgement in choosing his friends such as Ayers, Wright, Rezco who would he choose to be friends with if he were President??? Obama says he thought Ayers was rehabilated (sp) is he gonna think Bin Laden and the Taliban are too?? And I am sick of the democrats calling The Race Card anytime someone questions Obama there is nothing racial about asking questions and wanting REAL ANSWERS>not half truths as Obama is famous for telling. And the latest shady thing in his background is ACORN ...Voter fraud...at first Obama camp said he had nothing to do with Acorn then as Media learned He was once a lawyer for Acorn Trained for Acorn and his Campaign gave them 800,000... all he does is lie it is sick and you all believe it...ask a chicago person when he was running for office there he promised lower taxes THEY GOT HIGHER TAXES .Think about it all then make your choice .I just hope you all wake up befor it is too late. I will take McCains record anyday at least when the Keating thing happened he was TRUTHFUL and by the way was cleared of any wrong doing by a Democrat.Obama is not truthful and to me that says alot....

That's ok. Hillary is a woman of her word. She promised she would campaign for the party and she is.

Meanwhile, her supporters know what's up and we will vote accordingly. :D

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” - Susan B. Anthony

Hey LeeLee07... better you read Rolling Stone than listen to Rush Limbaugh... as you recall he, like Cindy McCain, has a problem with abusing prescription drugs. His choice, as you remember, was Oxycontin (and Viagra, I believe)...

Obama '08!

Great to see Hilary out there stumping so hard for McCain... oh, wait, she's working for the Obama campaign... hmm...

OBAMA '08!

Yeah, we always read Rolling Stone to get our political news...

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” - Susan B. Anthony

Yada, yada, yada. Troopergate is over and Sarah won't get impeached. Lololol.

Meanwhile, that judge is still waiting to see Obama's birth certificate!

What is the problem, Fact Check won't let it go????

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” - Susan B. Anthony

Obama's Supporters are foaming at the mouth because somebody told the truth about their Messiah, The Tainted One.

LMAO!

Bots, stop wasting your time and go get Obama's birth certificate from Fact Check to show the judge. He's waiting to see it. :D

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.” - Susan B. Anthony

Well, the VP GOP Chief is absolutely and factually correct.

Can you deny that:

(1) Obama has a friend (Ayers) who bombed the Pentagon? Of course not.

(2) Osama has a friend who bombed the Pentagon? Of course not.

Facts are a stubborn thing.

Dear Dee Dee Lynn,
So what you are saying is that because we only have a film from 2 (though I am pretty sure it is more) events than it is somehow o.k. I have no doubt that Rev. Right has done some good things for the black community. That still does not excuse him. Both Stalin and Hitler did some great things for their people. I am not comparing Rev. Write or Obama to them, just making a point that you can have a great message to one group of people and than burn others alive. Militant Ideology and hate still has no place in the White House. As for Palin her association with the church you are describing is not as deep as Obama's association with Rev. Write. That is not my words but Obama's. Irrespective of one man or one church, it is not just Rev. Write (though in my book, he is the most damaging case), but Ayers, Farakkan, ACORN, the list goes on and on.

McCain is not my first choice or second, I disagree with Palin on her harsh stance on abortion, but Obama's past pals, his inexperience and his judgment has taken him out of contention for my vote. Too bad, I love Joe Biden and Hilary and would of gladly given them my vote.

I agree with Joe Lieberman, the democratic party of the far far left fraction of Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi, is not what the democratic party used to be when Bill Clinton was my president.

Or maybe I just subscribe to an opinion that "if you are not a liberal before you turn 30 years old you have no heart, if you are not a conservative after you are 30, you have no brain"
I guess in this election, I rather be missing a heart.

I find it more and more disheartening that reporters will not do more to expose mccain and palin's campaign. It's reminiscent of 2000 and 2004 when the Gore and Kerry, respectively, was criticized constantly in the press, while bush twisted the truth but was allowed a free ride. I don't understand why this is happenning, but it is slightly heartening to see that there are fewer posts here than in the past.

LostDemocracy,

There is no evidence there was such rhetoric for 20+ years. You have drawn this conclusion based on 2 sermons.

The Reverand Martin Marty, one of the foremost (white) theologians in the country knows Jeremiah Wright very well. He has said on many occassions that the media (and Republican) portrayal of Wright is "a caricature" and that claims like your are flatly untrue.

BUT if you want to talk churches, please explain to me why Sarah Palin has not denounced the views of her church, among which are the belief that Christians should overthrow Democracy in America and replace it with a Christian theocracy.

Can somebody please explain to me (the dumb, uneducated pro-McCain supporter) of why Obama did not speak up against anti-American, anti-White, anti-Semitic rhetoric for 20+ yrs. Instead he considered Rev. Write his spiritual adviser, until he was forced to turn his back on him for the benefit of his political career. He is very good at stepping over dead bodies to get to the top. Forgive my ignorance, but I think that speaks to character.

LostDemocracy,

I am old enough to remember (as Obama said) that John McCain never bucked the Republican Party on any "kitchen table" issues.

I am also old enough to remember that on all the issues where he did originally buck Bush, he has since backed down (including on torture, which I find particularly disgusting given his own experience).

I am also old enough to remember (as is Christopher Buckley apparently) that the John McCain of 2008 bears no resemblance to the John McCain of 2000, and that he hired the same team of sleaze masters to run his campaign that ran W.'s sleazy campaign against him in 2000, you know, the ones who said he gave up his fellow Americans under torture, that he was crazy and mentally unbalanced, and that he had an illegitimate half-black child.

Logically speaking, if those claims that these same people are making against Obama, the things they said about McCain must also be true.

Are they? If not, why were the things they said then false, but the things they say now true?

Jeff Frederick should be fired for his inappropriate, false, incendiary, racist, hate-filled instructions to his campaign workers. He's not doing his candidate or party any favors, only reinforcing the growing belief that Conservatives like him are rabid ignoramuses who fuel the fire of racism in this country.

"I am tiered of the mantra that McCain is another G.W. Bush, because McCain voted with him 90% of the time."

Blame John McCain as he is the one who made that argument in the primaries.

Who do you think the "I voted with Bush 90% of the time" quote comes from? It was a McCain ad.

This is a problem with the government reigning in people on the public payroll who think they won't get caught spewing partisan hatred just to keep republicans in power. I heard a FEMA security personnel trainer speaking to a group of about 50 or more people warning against being violently attacked by ACORN. No reason for the attacks was given, but he selectively looked at the black people in the room and reiterated his warning against ACORN. Yes, the non-blacks turned to see who was peering so fiercely at!

I found his comments disgusting, partisan and racially-based. I wondered how many other classes he's presented this fact to while I was paying his frickin' salary.

We have to keep silent, though. On his recommendation, we can't work! I hope the news orgs attend a training or two we all sponsor with tax-payer dollars to get to hear this bias racist people on the government payroll spew daily.

The guy reminded me of the Palin-camp fighting for republican power by inciting fear and division. I can't wait to vote people like him OUT!

Obama/Biden 08!

Do you all have any idea what Fannie and Freddie and Barney and Frankie have done too the world economy? Small contries may go broke and their people will be homeless and starving, all because of their greed, and all because the race card was used one too many times. Enough allready! The Race card has cost the world trillions and may cost some too lose EVERYTHING. Was it worth it?

Dear Vanessa,
I am tiered of the mantra that McCain is another G.W. Bush, because McCain voted with him 90% of the time. Obama voted along the party line 97% of the time. By the same argument, I can say that Obama is a second term of Jimmy Carter (18% mortgage rates, high unemployment, American hostages in Iran for over 400 days, etc, etc, etc).

I guess I am old enough to remember McCain fighting Bush on many occasions. McCain is a conservative and therefore does agree with Bush on many fundamental issues. I believe McCain is much more to the center than Obama is. I will not vote for Obama because of Rev. Right, Ayers, ACORN, REZCO, FARAKKAN, etc. I do respect Joe Biden and wish the ticket was reversed, maybe then I would of been able to ignore all the Militant friends (both Black and White) Obama has surrounded himself with before this election.

FOR ME THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT WHAT BOTH MAN SAID AND DID PRIOR TO THE ELECTION SEASON. THAT IS WHY I GIVE MY VOTE TO MCCAIN/PALIN.

Nan,

If McCain will bring his and his oath of citizenship, I am sure Obama will be happy to bring his.

I will reiterate, the DEMOCRATIC Senate passed a special resolution declaring McCain to be eligible to run for President.

If there were issues with Obama's citizenship (which there are not) why would a DEMOCRATIC Senate have cleared the way for a Republican, and not a Democrat (which they could easily have done if there were a problem because it would be the same problem faced by McCain)?

J

Right, so in the tank for Obama, that's why they support McCain's assertion that he has a legal right to run for POTUS as well.

Nevermind that there are people challenging McCain's "natural born" citizen status, who are just as pathetic as those challenging Obama's.

Both challenges to the right of either candidate to run for office are lies and non-issues.

Lisa,

I go back to my original question to you.

Philip Berg sued the Bush administration because he claimed they orchestrated 9 11. They never showed any "evidence" to dispute that claim, and they had the lawsuit dismissed (as Obama is going to do with this nuisance lawsuit).

Does that, then, mean, that Berg's claims about the Bush administration are true.

Please, answer my question.

And if not, then why is that lawsuit of his false, and the current one true?

I would love to see your answer.

My answer to your question is to repeat a Republican talking point about tort reform which is that anyone in this country can sue anyone for any reason. There does not have to be any factual basis to the claim.

Dede well then I hope he brings it to the debate and just whips it out and shows everyone,that would be great! It would sure put my mind at rest. One less thing to worry about.

Nan,

Obama has shown his birth certificate and the McCain camp knows it. That's why they, themselves, never bring this stupid non-issue up, lest they appear as crazy as the crack-pots who believe it.

Instead, they just let the fringe right-wing bloggers repeat it.

Easy game to play. Example: Photo of McCain hugging Bush, campaigning for Bush, supporting Bush policies > Bush family connections to bin Laden family, George H.W. Bush meeting with Osama's brother on 9/11 at Carlyle Group, etc > McCain 2 degrees from Osama.

See how easy that is?

There is a proverb about people who live in glass houses. Back slowly away from that stone, Mr. Frederick.

J

And Walter Annenberg (again) is a conservative Republican and a close friend of Ronald Reagan's.

So is this entire thing a "vast right-wing conspiracy?"

LostDemocracy,

Voting for McCain is voting for Bush. Truly, what's the difference between John S. McCain and George W. Bush?

What's the difference? I mean in terms of taxes, healthcare, education, Social Security, Foreign Policy.

McCain plans on continuing the Bush tax cuts. Under the McCain/Bush tax cuts the wealthy saves $700,000+, while the middle class saves $1,000+. The gap between rich and poor is at it's greatest height.

Heathcare. McCain says he want to give every American a $5,000 tax credit. Basically giving every American $5,000 addition unto their annual income. News Flash McCain. At average, Healthcare is $12,000 for the average family. Also McCain plans to TAX the $5,000. Unbelieveable.

Education. McCain refused to invest in education. Foreign nations are out teaching us. If foreign nation can out teach us tiday then can out smart us tomorrow.

Social Security. McCain wants to privatize Social Security. Imagine now if your SS was invested into the Stock Market.

Foreign Policy. McCain wants to stay in Iraq while fighting an uphill battle in Afganistan. Start a cold war with Russia (McCain's past rhetoric) and attack Iran.

We've seen this weekend what "talks" can do. Look at North Korea. Could Obama possible be right on Iran?

The money is coming from the little people in this country like me who have given the Obama/Biden ticket $25 to $55 donations when they/I can to defeat the Republican ticket that for the last 8 years that have torn this country to shreds. I am a man of modest means that owns a small cleaning business and will continue to support the ticket for the party that will rebuild this country, not tear it apart.
OSAMA/BIDEN '08

Democratic talking point: McCain has a "friend" whose husband belongs to an organization whose founder said: "the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government".
OMG, that makes McCain a SECESSIONIST!! (And just where was HIS flag pin in the last debate?) Sounds almost as stupid as some of the Republican spewage, and yet they keep repeating it over and over like they are teaching dogs to roll over.

Do you all think that Obama will show his birth certificate to the McCain camp so we can put too rest the aligations? Enough is enough, just show it and shut everyone up please.

This is why I continue to boycott anything ABC. Repeating attacks only serves to forward the rumors. Pathetic!!!

THE ANGRY McCAIN/PALIN MOBS and their chants of HATE are just the final gasp of a failed campaign...

The Republicans are lashing out in the most ERRATIC way against Obama now. In a last DESPERATE and PATHETIC try to maintain their evil hold over the country...

This effort in a MAJOR way is being controlled and funded by the rich and the large corporations, in an effort to hold on to their money and power...

The SAD thing is they are using the rednecks, Klan members and other "lower information" parts of the Republican base to further their movement...

In fact just like the Republicans that post here!

Unfortunately, it isn't going to work this time and finally TRUTH, GOOD an the real AMERICAN WAY is winning in a LANDSLIDE FOR OBAMA!!!!!!

Obama worked with Anneberg so Factcheck is biased.

Sorry for the typo, my post should have read that staffers have held Obama's birth certificate

Sounds like you all are a little worried that Obama will not be voted in?

For those of you saying that Obama is muslim, That has been cleared by FactCheck as nothing more than an attempt to slime him.

FactCheck staff, have themselves, held, touched, examined and photographed the original.

You can look it up, if you dare find out information from an unbiased, non-liberal, non-MSM source. If you would simply open your eyes and actually look for facts and not rhetoric, you might actually learn something.

Don't know what FactCheck is? This is from their website. Remember Annenberg? The close friend of Reagan and an Ambassador appointed by him? I wouldn't call this foundation liberal by any stretch of the imagination. Please note where they get their funding.

"We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit "consumer advocate" for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge and understanding.

The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg in 1994 to create a community of scholars within the University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at the local, state and federal levels.

The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions, political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation."

dee dee, just a simple question. if you could easily clear up something big enough that someone was suing you, why not clear it up? i don't understand why he doesn't just show it.

The bloggers here post a lot of
nonsense! Obama has done nothing but complain about how bad things are! Americans are fat, stupid and lazy and they want to be spoon fed their fast food and cheap gas and free health care! The only reason Bush won was that Kerry and Gore weren't worth a crap! Obama ain't worth a crap either and neither is Mccain! It won't matter which of these bums you elect, they will serve their own self interest first and Obama has proven to be one of the most self serving members of our political elitist PIGS! If you really want CHANGE, throw the bums out! Otherwise, the political pendulum will continue to swing... and next time we will be talking about what a lousy president Obama or McCain is!

Oh Wow. I did not know all that. I was going to vote for obama but these things, and the thing about using the race card. I think I might have to vote for McCain. Can any of you all give me a good reason why I should not?

Another fine example of republican dirtball tactics.