Political Punch

What a crime to avail the right to vote to everyone! How horrendous to fight redlining, only the rich should have credit available to them! (Which they already do, if they happen to be executives in large corporations, at an extremely low interest rate!)
Do you guys actually listen to yourselves when you communicate? I am not in the least bit worried about somebody registering a bogus name except for the fact that the name gatherer is committing fraud against the agency who is paying and not doing his/her job, but when it comes to voting, you come to a specific polling place, you show ID (which I think is next to being a poll tax), show a voting registration card (which I think is necessary), find your name and write your signature (which is checked against the signature on your registration card) and vote, sometimes after waiting for up to a half hour depending on the turnout.
I would think you would have to pay someone quite a bit of money to do this more than once, plus they would have to do it in less than 12 hours! What nonsense!
As for having more voters than are registered, that is election fraud, which was proven without doubt for both the 2000 and 2004 elections, but not federally prosecuted due the nature of our corrupt Department of Justice that prosecute only who the administration dictates they should prosecute.
In my state you are now required a pictured ID card. For those of us who drive, this is not much of an issue, but for those who don't, you could either get an absentee ballot, or go on-line (so access to a computer) or find the phone number of a government worker who could advise you as to what documents are acceptable as proof of who you are and where you live, arrange for transportation to take these to a department of licensing office, get a number for your place in the que, wait from 30 minutes to 2 hours until your number is called (if you are physically able), get a picture taken and pay $20.
So
1) you have to have the right documents
2) you must find a way to get to the licensing office
3) you must have the leisure of having to wait and still have transportation home
4) you must be physically able to travel and wait
5) you must pay $20
This was never required before, and I think it is an undue hardship, especially for people dependent on others who should have the right to vote. Much of the documents required refer to bills or documents that a homeowner would accrue, but what of a dependent, be it elderly, or younger without a driver's license? As our economy worsens more and more extended families are living in one abode, does that mean only the owners have a right to vote? Doesn't this go back to one person, one vote?
Where are your values?
Don't you think that all should have a voice in who are leaders should be?
And remember this: the "news" organization that espouses the view that voting fraud is a paramount problem for the nation and for whom O'Reilly works once won a lawsuit defending its right NOT TO TELL THE TRUTH as the FCC states that telling the truth is a guideline not a statute, and they had plenty of "friends" who included themselves.
Attorney General David Iglesia was fired because he could not find enough evidence of voter fraud to prosecute.

I'll vote for, nice try but ACORN has been doing this for many years. And we now know that Sen. Obama used to be the executive director of the voter registration arm of the Chicago branch of ACORN.

Incidentally, a former ACORN Miami-Dade field Director, Mac Stuart, is now claiming that his job assignment was to come up with 103,000 new voter registrations in Dade County. He claims that ACORN threw out Republican registrations and paid for Democratic registrations. AND Mr. Stuart stated: "The voter registration project has been operating illegally since it started."

At the risk of sounding paranoid, has it occurred to anyone that it would be a simple matter for the McCain campaign or the RNC to place moles at ACORN and create this mess for the purpose of giving them an opportunity to cry foul? Sounds crazy right?

I have two words for you: Karl Rove.

I've worked on voter registration by standing on a street corner and helping people fill out the forms. Sometimes, they take the forms home with them to fill out and mail in. Are you suggesting that giving someone a registration form that they then fill out incorrectly is the fault of the person providing the form? That is patently absurd. Providing people with the opportunity to fill out a registration form is not the same thing as voter fraud, as the justice department well knows from investigating ACORN in the past.

All you "get ACORN" nuts act like these were all just turned in yesterday! These were turned in over a period of something like 14 months, and the ACORN employees who were discovered have been terminated. ACORN itself informed state officials about the questionable registrations collected by its employees that are now under investigation.

The fact is ACORN has been a target for the GOP for years because they work to register voters in some of the "not so well off" neighborhoods, and the GOP doesn't want those people to vote. Some ACORN employees did improper things and they were fired. A couple thousand fraudulent registrations are under investigation, out of 1.3 million! It is sad that these employees have tainted the election process, however, election fraud has gone on with BOTH SIDES for decades. This is not new, and it shouldn't even be news.

Yes, Senator Obama has a few ties to ACORN...

ubu1991, ACORN has been in the business of voter registration for years. And every year there are thousands if not tens of thousands of the fraudulent voter registration cards all across the country. While I agree with you that an organization that does not "preserve the integrity of voter registration" should lose the right to register voters, I won't hold my breath. A Democratically controlled Congress will never stop these abuses. I learned that back in 1996, when the Democrats actually registered tens of thousands of illegal immigrants before they became American citizens--but they were to be naturalized prior to the election--in California. They cited the policy of allowing 17-year-olds being allow to register as long as they turned 18 before the election. The problem is, when you sign the card, you are stating that you ARE an American Citizen. With regards to the age requirement, the law allows this; and you sign the card that states that you will be 18 before the election. Unfortunately these illegal votes were allowed to stand.

Josh, if a homeless person is able to receive mail at a particular shelter, then I say fine. Register the individual and let him or her vote. That is the key. But if that homeless shelter does not allow mail for their residents, then sorry the answer is no. You need a mailing address. Now that might seem cruel, but apparently some Democrats find it cruel that we require voters to be American citizens!

Unfortuniately because of ACORN and the likes of ACORN, it has become necessary to examine closely the process of ensuring that only qualified voters participate in our election. ACORN knew or should have known since at least April when 8 were convicted that its employees were turning in fraudulent voter registration. They admit it above. I am agasht that ACORN instituted no steps to supervise its employees as they register voters. If they are unable or unwilling to preserve the integrity of voter registration then they should no longer be allowed to register voters!

Not being able to prove who you are opens the door to fraud.

Some states provide free voter picture id cards. We should make it nation wide.

I was just wathcin Hannity and Combs talking about this and one of their guests actually condemed ACORN for registering people at homeless shelters. I would like to know what is wrong with registering homeless people do they not have the right to vote because they don't have a home. The right to vote is a fundemental right of all Americans except people who have lost that right by committing felonies. Based on the views of these ultra conservatives if our economy continues to crash none of us will have the right to vote because we will all be homeless.
That is one of the reasons that voters should not ahve to provide a state ID to vote is because there are homeless people in the country and they don't have an ID because states charge for ID cards and also require that you have an address on those ID cards. I would like to know if anyone out there agrees that homeless people should not be able to vote.

This is SO OLD, actually the United States Naturalization Act of January 29, 1795 repealed the 1790 act.

James wrote: "But In 1964, the Supreme Court ruled that 'natural born' meant born inside the United States."

Actually the U. S. Supreme Court has never ruled on the term "natural born" citizen. The U. S. Supreme Court ruling in the 1964 case, Schneider v. Rusk, pertained to "native-born" citizens. A "native-born" citizen is one who was born within the boundaries.

The U. S. Supreme Court is not allowed to hear hypothetical cases. Therefore, not until we actually have an individual ELECTED president who would fit the parameters can they hear the case. Being a nominee does not open the door for a lawsuit. In fact, Barry Goldwater was a good example. He was born in the Arizona Territory. Had he won the 1964 Presidential election, then there would have been lawsuits filed and the U. S. Supreme Court could have heard the case.

There is no doubt that should Sen. McCain win the election in November that there will be lawsuits claiming that he is not eligible under the term "natural born" citizen. Only then can the U. S. Supreme Court rule on the term "natural born" citizen.

James wrote: "THESE PEOPLE HAVENT VOTED AND BASED ON HISTORY WONT!"

That is simply NOT TRUE! In 2004, there was a county in Washington State, that actually had more votes cast than registered voters. There are many counties across the United States that have identified votes CAST--by individuals that had been deceased for years--and COUNTED.

Those of you who believe that these fraudulent voter registration cards are the work of just a few bad individuals are wrong. ACORN knows that their workers will cheat since they are paid per registration card. They have been doing this for years. And they continue to pay per registration card.

Congress should pass a law prohibiting organizations from paying ANYONE for registering voters. This should be done on a voluntary basis only.

At the rate they're finding fraudulent voter registrations none of the newly registered votes should be counted if the state cannot validate them by or before the deadline - especially those from ACORN and FAITHVOTE who have a significant number of fraudulent registrations to their credit.

MayBee: To register to vote no one needs ID---all you need do is pick up a form, fill it out, turn it in or mail it. When it's time to vote you need your registration card or an ID and that is checked against the list the poll workers have at the voting site. If your name isn't on the list you are either at the wrong polling place or your not registered.

"Tony Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada, and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4," Miller said.
======

That's cute.
But not every election worker knows who Terrell Owens is, or that it's the name of a famous person. If someone walks up to the table and says "Hi, my name is Terrell Owens", on what basis is the non-football fan volunteer poll worker going to doubt him? If they can't ask for ID, that is?

Who cares about ACORN.

Woody, I thought the Rep. tried to do this but it got turn down by the Dems. Plus the ACLU said you are infringing on that individual rights. I think it would help solve voter fraud, but then to think of it....it wouldn't because someone will get a fake ID and vote, and then the real person comes in and wants to vote and can't because they already voted. I say go with the thumb print, it would be harder to forge. But then ACORN & the Dems would have individuals mailling in their votes. There is no way to prove that this is the individual that voted or some ACORN employee voting for him or her.

cincyr??? these are NOT FACTS

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.

YES HE WAS

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.

YES HE DID

• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.

YES IT WAS... and just stating something as "fact" does not make it so...

I think you need to look up the definition of "fact" You obviously you don't have a clue about non-profits.

Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama's campaign distanced itself Thursday from its $800,000 payment linked to the liberal ACORN organization, which is under investigation in several states where it is suspected of filing fraudulent voter registrations.

James,

Glad I could provide a laugh, but you're logic defies, well, logic.

BTW, I agree that McCain doesn't have a prayer and that's fine with me. As long as Obama/Pelosi/Reid don't completely destroy what's left of the country it's setting up nicely for my guy in '12.

Woody you not being honest so its not worth the conversation..

The fact you posted both statements together makes me laugh though!

McCain wont be President but I hope the Three court cases going will be continued after the election!

"Supreme Court SCHNEIDER v. RUSK, 377 U.S. 163 1964

"The rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the "natural born" citizen is eligible to be President. Art. II"

The only differnce between the two..... is one can be President"

Dude, where do you see anything in this language that defines what a "natural born" citizen is? "Native born" does not equal "natural born". Therein lies the rub.

The only thing this statement says declaritively is all citizens of the US, no matter how that citizenship is attained, are afforded the same rights and protections under the law. And hooray for that! It very distinctly does not equate "native born" with "natural born". The author had an opportunity to do so and declined.

People wake up this election is rigged the mainstream media is so in the tank for Obama it is sickening. The democrats seem to be able to do what they want, I guess we need to make sure they get more money.

"The Affordable Housing Fund Trust goes to state and local governments. Same with the Capital Magnet Fund.

Once that happens the Feds have little say over how the state & local government choose to spend that money provided they are following federal law."

I'll take your word on the funding process. If it is as you've stated and the Feds have little direct control over state distributions they still plenty of options. They could withold funding in its entirety to any state that is passing it along to ACORN until they have a guarantee from the state that ACORN will be shut off, much like they can withold education money for failing school systems or highway money for cities that fail EPA clean air standards. Federal money always comes with strings attached. That's how they weild their influence, and one of their favorite tricks is to punish all for the sins of a few.

"And I think it would be highly discriminatory(from a legal sense, not racial)to single out one organization be prevented receiving the grants."

Discriminatory? Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. States are duty bound as caretakers of the public trust to be discriminatory (in the legal sense of course). They must apply a discriminating litmus test to recipients of funds in order to identify and disqualify corrupt or criminal organizations.

ACORN workers should not be submitting fraudulent voter registation forms AND swing states should not be purging the voter rolls this close to an election. They had 4 years to remove those that are ineligible to vote.

I happen to think that purging the voter rolls is worse because it is taking away someone's right to vote whereas the fraudulent voter registration forms just makes it look like more people registered than was actually the case.

I have read through most of these posts and have come to the conclusion that the Obama supporters want to see America's descent into socialism completed. You can tell by the kids today (who believe that everyone owes them) that the parents have created the expectation of socialism in our society.

The problem with the voting fraud issue is that it will not make any difference in the outcome of the election. However, it does say volumes about Obama. But America has become enamored with "making history" rather than ensuring our future.

Hopefully not too much damage will be done in the next 4 years to the core of our Republic. But at least I will know that I will have voted my conscience, lived with honor, and worked with determination.

I respect the right of everyone who is a citizen to vote for whomever they wish to. I am not a Republican or a Democrat. I am a citizen of the greatest country there is and am saddened and disgusted by what I see from both sides. You want a revolution? You want real change? Vote no for both Obama and McCain and demand better. The lesser of two evils is not a choice, it is an abomination.

Woody

Supreme Court SCHNEIDER v. RUSK, 377 U.S. 163 1964

"The rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the "natural born" citizen is eligible to be President. Art. II"

The only differnce between the two..... is one can be President

Obama made over $800,000 in payments to ACORN by secretly funneling it through another group. When caught red handed, Obama’s campaign agree to amend the federal report.

This smells like the millions in $ from questionable donors (like illegal donors to Obama from individuals in Palestine). Unlike McCain, Obama’s camp refuses to disclose the identities of these guys.

A quote from a 2004 article - Case Study: Chicago- The Barack Obama Campaign - written Toni Foulkes, a Chicago ACORN Leader, which was published in the journal Social Policy.

"Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5,000 of them).

Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for STate Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends."

jpt writes:
"Americans are a fair-minded people who believe the election should be clean, and every eligible voter should be allowed to cast his or her ballot, without either fraud or suppression."
-----
Clearly SOME Americans -- the political class -- are NOT so "fair-minded".

"Democratic" nominee Obama has gotten where he is now by suppressing the right of opposition candidates even to APPEAR on the ballot in Illinois, then offing an opponent by the timely disclosure of a sex scandal, then by offing other presidential candidates with a "racism" ploy so ridiculous that it was, in itself, racist.

Add to this that the "Democrats" rushed to turn the Treasury over to the corporations, and there are a zillion reasons NOT to vote for them, ever again.

Vote for Nader. You won't be sorry.

What is difference between voter fraud in the U.S., Russia, Venezuela, Simbabwe and Iran?
Answer: Only the U.S. has ACORN.

"Obama campaign has direct ties to ACORN and they tried to hide the $800,000 they gave to ACORN to help them get the voter"

Hiding? The reason you know about it is because it was reported in their FEC filings.

Right wingers are nuts.

"Can't say for sure because their ledgers are hard to find, but maybe the Affordable Housing Trust Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund?"

The Affordable Housing Fund Trust goes to state and local governments. Same with the Capital Magnet Fund.

Once that happens the Feds have little say over how the state & local government choose to spend that money provided they are following federal law.

And I think it would be highly discriminatory(from a legal sense, not racial)to single out one organization be prevented receiving the grants.

Obama campaign has direct ties to ACORN and they tried to hide the $800,000 they gave to ACORN to help them get the voter fraud up and running, even more.
THIS ELECTION IS RIGGED FOLKS AND WILL BE LITIGATED AND WE WILL HAVE NO PRESIDENT ON 11/5.

"What federal funding is any does ACORN receive?"

Can't say for sure because their ledgers are hard to find, but maybe the Affordable Housing Trust Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund?

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.

• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.

James,

For the last time, as Ryan stated, the Supremes have never ruled on the definition of "natural born citizen". Furthermore, McCain's status is covered as a natural-born citizen under Title 8 of the US Code which lists the criteria for "citizens of the United States at birth".

USC 1401(c): "a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person."

If the filers of this lawsuit you keep referring to want the Supreme Court to rule that "citizen of the United States at birth" is somehow different than "natural born citizen" they are welcome to it, but I suspect they will not be pleased with the outcome. Title 8 defines who is a citizen at birth and who must naturalize but left out the clear cut definition of "natural born citizen". I believe that was intentional, as the legislators did not feel it was their duty to suppose what the Framers meant. That's the job of the Supremes.

That voter fraud exists is without question. The question is how many resources have been devoted to detecting and preventing it, and the answer to that is very little indeed.

It's called ascertainment bias. If you don't look for it, you will certainly never find it.

Yet assuring the integrity of the voting process is fundamental to a representative form of government. Absent that, the very contract that the elected rule by the consent of the governed is invalidated, and the government ceases to have validity.

"House Republican Leader John Boehner demanded all federal funding to the group stop, saying the organization can't be trusted with one more taxpayer dollar."

What federal funding is any does ACORN receive?

Wasnt Obama the attorney for acorn??????? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Where's Obama denouncing the actions of ACORN.

Obama once again gives the American voters just another reason NOT to vote for him.

Why is the media ignoring ACORN?

Why didn't the media vet Obama in the first place???

This election is a JOKE.

Blip - about ACORN owning up - that's a crock - from the inside of a similar Human Service organization (not affiliated with ACORN) THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.......

House Republican Leader John Boehner demanded all federal funding to the group stop, saying the organization can't be trusted with one more taxpayer dollar.

Contact your Senator and demand he support cutting off all federal funding to ACORN and all groups associated with ACORN.

Protect your right to vote.

I would like to see all those involved prosecuted to the fullest, irregardless who it is. "EVERYONE INVOLVED". If Obama have a major part in the fraud him too. "EVERYONE". The Dem's didn't like what happened in 2000 & 2004 in regards to Bush victories, crying it was stolen. So to my fellow Dem's out there, fighting fire with fire in this case would be "WRONG". And two WRONGS don't make it right or even. GOBAMABIDEN.

A native-born citizen of a country is a person who was born within the country's territory and has been legally recognized as that country's citizen from birth. Such a person is a citizen-at-birth by virtue of jus soli or birthright citizenship.

Oh, yeah right. Half of all Indiana Acorn voter registrations are fraudulent. Try corruption.

ACORN IS the Obama campaign... and they, much like a former Democratic Persident, got caught with their pants down!
"Citizen Services, Obama's Campaign staff, is inextricably tied to ACORN. Along with nonprofit sister organization Project Vote, Citizens Services and ACORN share the same New Orleans address and the same executive staff while money flows freely between the three entities. In 1996, Project Vote's tax returns show it paid ACORN more than $4.6 million for campaign services and Citizens Services more than $779,000 for legal and administrative services." Washington Times reported.

Oh, also... The ACORN political action committee endorsed Mr. Obama for president.

Hupty Dumpty may not show up to vote on election day, but he will most-likly vote by absentee ballot.

Ryan C

Thats cool I dont see how you cant but your entitled to your opinion!

To me this seems Clear:

"The rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the "natural born" citizen is eligible to be President. Art. II"

The only differnce between the two..... is one can be President

Whether you are a Dem or a Republican, you know when you hear voter fraud/ACORN you THINK OBAMA....no question. This is dispicable registering dead people and illegals, and folks WE ARE FUNDING IT. Every bogus vote wipes out one of ours. THIS ELECTION WILL NOT BE DETERMINED ON 11/5, THERE WILL BE LAWYERS ALL OVER THIS AND IT WILL MAKE THE GORE/BUSH FLORIDA DEBACLE, LOOK LIKE A TEA PARTY.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN.

James,

I will have to do more research then.

I still don't see the Rusk decision defining what a natural born citizen is though.

"They are just trying to surpass the 105% registration record that Indiana has achieved."

To believe that one has to believe projections of growth of only 4000 people a year.

But right wingers always were a gullible lot.

Jerry A. Wood, perhaps you need to ask another question!

Ask them IF you have voted in Cuyahoga County Ohio in ANY of the last 14 elections :)

edge.

ACORN is obliged by Law to turn in every filled in registration-form it receives, even if it is clear it is a fraudulent registration.

ACORN flags these forms as questionable before it submits them to the authorities.

Fraudulent regristration is not fraudelent voting: Humpty Dumpty will now show up at the election.

Fraudulent voting hardly exists, the Bush Justice Department did everything it can to proof it exists, but it could not find any significant case. It only found instances where ACORN was actually the victim of fraud.

Voter purging and disenfranchising however is real and should outrage every American.

Ryan C and Geting old

The Naturalization Act of 1795 that repealed the Naturalization Act of 1790:

Here again is the citation at issue from the Naturalization Act of 1790:

"... And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens:"

Here is the portion of the Naturalization Act of 1795 that repealed the Naturalization Act of 1790:

… and the children of citizens of the United States born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States.

Sorry but I think your wrong!

"So how many fraudulent voters have been busted during the last election cycle? Or during the last two election cycles? I believe the answer is none. Phoney baloney wedge issue."

Ralph gets to the heart of the matter.

"I wrote back indicating I have not live in Cuyahoga county Ohio since 1969 and advised them I have voted in Tennessee in the past 14 elections"

They are just trying to surpass the 105% registration record that Indiana has achieved.

I received an inquiry yesterday asking me if I just registered to vote in Cuyahoga county Ohio. I am to verify the information submitted and return within 10 days to be eligile to vote in the upcoming election.

I wrote back indicating I have not live in Cuyahoga county Ohio since 1969 and advised them I have voted in Tennessee in the past 14 elections.

I am legally registered in Tennessee.

ACORN IS the Obama campaign... and they, much like a former Democratic Persident, got caught with their pants down!
"Citizen Services, Obama's Campaign staff, is inextricably tied to ACORN. Along with nonprofit sister organization Project Vote, Citizens Services and ACORN share the same New Orleans address and the same executive staff while money flows freely between the three entities. In 1996, Project Vote's tax returns show it paid ACORN more than $4.6 million for campaign services and Citizens Services more than $779,000 for legal and administrative services." Washington Times reported.

Oh, also... The ACORN political action committee endorsed Mr. Obama for president.

McCain, we need you to get a little bit upset about this. Media, where are you?! This would make for some great investigative journalim... or do you feel conflicted about the whole thing?

"why is abc ignoring the story on msnbc

You lost me after msnbc.

The original moderate Democratic Party has been taken over by socialists and the criminal element. Anything goes for them, corruption, distortions, stealing; liars are welcome.
Every voters in every precinct should be required to have proof of birth/citizenship before voting. My children were not allowed in school without identity proof papers. With close to 20 millions illegals (all criminals) in our country, we need to protect voting rights. Obama is financiaslly supporting ACORN and its registering dead people, illegals, etc. One person was give 72 registration forms to complete for voting by ACORN people. Some ACORN workers were telling the voters to vote for Obama--as proven on TV video.
This election will be exactly like every other election in the last 30 years, full of voter fraud and deception. If the voter is too lazy to go to the election office to register to vote, they are also too lazy to study the issues and the policies of the candidate. One Obama supporter said she was voting for Obama because "he had a cute butt."
All political parties and citizens should demand a legal platform for our elections.

"When you have convicted felons registering voters, don't you suppose some of them are also adept at indentity fraud/theft and creating false ID's to present at voting sites?"

Some of them that were working for ACORN in Vegas were actually convicted of ID Theft.

jpt: "There's a case to be made to voters that any news organization, candidate, or political party that acts as if one of these two issues is a problem, but ignores the other, is only concerned about their side winning, as opposed to caring about a clean and orderly and fair election.

Most Americans, I would guess, do not see it that way. Americans are a fair-minded people who believe the election should be clean, and every eligible voter should be allowed to cast his or her ballot, without either fraud or suppression."

======
I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are saying here- my head is a little foggy this morning.
I think the case should be made that neither is appropriate, and any news organization or candidate that focuses on one and not the other is more concerned with its side winning.

Yes, every eligible voter should be able to cast his ballot, and people should be able to cast only one ballot. Ineligible voters should not be able to cast a ballot at all.

However, organizations that repeatedly seek to enter thousands of fraudulent registrations overwhelm the system and cause mistakes that will affect legitimate voters. That's a story.

dl - McVeigh is dead I believe. He was executed. Bu I do agree not all terrorists are dark skinned and have funny names. I grew up and still live in the South. Trust me there are planty of people that would qualify for the term terrorist down here.

And this is what scares me. As a young black man,being able to vote for another black man as POTUS is something I thought I would never do in my lifetime.I think its an honor.

But as a history major, and a product of a mother who taught me to use my common sense. I realize that I still live in an America, where homegrown terrorist will do anything in there power to stop a black man from becoming President. As much as I support Sen..Obama, I pray every night that God protects him, because I fear for his life. (I doubt McCain supporters share that same fear for their candidate.) I mean its not like he's going to be killed because of the color of his skin.

And for you people who say blacks need to forget about the past, please pay attention to the chants of terrorist,Kill Him, The use of the N-word being used at these Hate rallies being led by Sen..McCain and Gov.Palin, they don't even condone the things these horrible people are saying. That says allot about their characters, and says allot about what direction they would lead this country. .

We've been taught that Muslims are the enemy,but we don't remember those terrorist right in our own neighborhoods.

Anyone who votes this year, should be required to have a state ID, or driving license. This should prevent any form of fraud. I'm even going to take my Gas and electric bill just to make sure I don't miss my chance to put Sen..Obama in the Whitehouse.

When you have convicted felons registering voters, don't you suppose some of them are also adept at indentity fraud/theft and creating false ID's to present at voting sites?

why is abc ignoring the story on msnbc about sarah palins radical connections to th alaska indepence party, this is more than ayers and wright combined, and these people are now not 40 years ago. palin has attended thir conventions, and was a keynote speker at th 2008 convention. these people are violent. let's get on it

So how many fraudulent voters have been busted during the last election cycle? Or during the last two election cycles? I believe the answer is none. Phoney baloney wedge issue. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find that the "fraudulent" ACORN registrations were filled out by republican operatives just to blow smoke into the process. The whole thing smells like last weeks fish.

This is SO Old,

I would agree that both are eligible to run for President, my prickly need for accuracy wanted to correct statements about natural born citizenry being settled b the Supreme Court.

James,

I think This is So Old is correct, see hi post about the 1790 law.

ACORN IS the Obama campaign... and they, much like a former Democratic Persident, got caught with their pants down!
"Citizen Services, Obama's Campaign staff, is inextricably tied to ACORN. Along with nonprofit sister organization Project Vote, Citizens Services and ACORN share the same New Orleans address and the same executive staff while money flows freely between the three entities. In 1996, Project Vote's tax returns show it paid ACORN more than $4.6 million for campaign services and Citizens Services more than $779,000 for legal and administrative services." Washington Times reported.

Oh, also... The ACORN political action committee endorsed Mr. Obama for president.

I smell deep **** for B.O.!

Obama nuts in ACORN do not fall too far from the tree.

And, with Obama poll numbers going steadily up, the stock market continues to crash.

Change we should all expect.

Voter registration fraud is not voting fraud. If multiple names under the same address are registered, that could mean that several people live in the same house. Oh, imagine that! It could also be the address a homeless shelter. If more people are registered than actually exist in a county, obviously there won't be that many people showing up to vote. "Voting Fraud" is when Republicans steal elections by botching ACTUAL VOTES, DURING AND AFTER ELECTION DAY. Y'know, if the ACORN people were smart, they'd register everyone Republican. I bet you'd hear a lot less noise about "voter registration fraud".

Doesn't everyone have to show photo I.D.? I've lived in Calif my whole life and never gave the process a thought...never thought there was a way to cheat after you register (once) get you sample ballot, go to the booth with I.D., they get your address, check you off, send you in the booth WITH ONE BALLOT, and that's it. Any other way to do this? Absentee ballot, I could see some cheating with. Are some states not requiring photo I.D. and address?