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A Wrinkle in the Obama-Clinton Negotiations

November 18, 2008 9:03 PM

Behind the scenes of the Obama Transition Team's vetting of the finances of former President Bill Clinton in order for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, to be named Secretary of State, a complication has emerged.

Sources say the complication is not what Bill Clinton is willing to disclose in terms of the people who have donated to his presidential library or his charitable organizations; those names are being provided to the Obama Transition Team, led by John Podesta, who was also Bill Clinton's White House chief of staff.

What seems more potentially problematic is not revealing what's happened in the past -- but what the Obama Team wants to do about the future.

The view from Camp Clinton is that the Obama Team would too severely restrict what Bill Clinton is able to do to simply make a living. One source says the Obama Team seems to think it can demand that the former president abide by the restrictions put on a general government official, which just isn't tenable.

There has even been talk of the Obama White House wanting to approve every speech the former President Gives gives, or any new source of income.

And while the former President's team says he's willing to disclose that information ahead of time, they aren't willing to submit each speech opportunity for approval.

George H.W. Bush had no similar restrictions when he son was President, Clinton advocates say. Why would Bill Clinton have to stop doing what former presidents do -- traveling the world, giving speeches, raising money for charitable works -- when his wife is a mere Cabinet official?

The view is that this is the portfolio of a former President; to eliminate it -- especially when Hillary Clinton still has more than $6 million in debt from her campaign -- is unreasonable.

There has been some pushback from the Clinton Team on some of the restrictions they feel are way too severe.

None of which is to say the Obama-Clinton folks won't be able to come to some sort of agreement. Just that it's a bit complicated as of right now.

The Obama folks would not comment.

Ambinder reported on this tonight as well HERE.

- jpt

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i thought rahm is supposed to be the guy who is so smart, and i still believe he is. but he should not have let this happen.
and he worked for president clinton,
he should have known better than to think sen. clinton should be sos, but tell the president clinton not to keep working.
it is foolishness.
and it is just wrong for the people on here who say the clinton home should break up, over this.
do you folks know people who break up their homes so easy?

let obama find himself a sos from among his own group.

Posted by: What? | Nov 19, 2008 9:22:46 AM

Hillary would be great for this position. She actually LOVES America, has EXPERIENCE, and will not NEGOTIATE with our terrorist enemies. When the Obamas try to have ahkmadenijead to the white house for dinner and a movie, Hillary will them "Hell NO!". The Obama's and their "associations" are dangerous to this country. Hillary will be a great asset for this country to make sure the obama's don't try to appt bill ayers to a cabinet position, or make rev wright press secretary.

Posted by: dave | Nov 19, 2008 9:18:01 AM

it is not the clinton' fault,
obama should have left sen. clintn alone.
she had gone back to her day job in the senate, and everyone was resigned to that.
and he does have many people associated withe the clinton' and many voters did
think when he said change it did mean
competence from the bush adm.
but i thought he had a group of smart up and comers like himself. bright minds from his era, just waiting for their chance. never would i have thought after he dissed president clinton time in office, would he ever bring anyone closely associated with the clinton white house, it was a smart move, i thought he only would have needed one or two people to add to his own.
and this mess about president clinton would have to stop doing what he has been doing, as all presidents have done, is wrong.
and for people to comment here that the clinton' marriage should break up,after 30+ years so she can have a job in the obama white house, is just un-christian.
and for obama to ask sen. clinton to be his sos, and then say but the president has to stop doing his work, is poor judgement. and wrong on obama' part.
andrea mitchell did not break a story,
andrea mitchell has started a mess.
she is envious of sen. clinton, and only wants to cause trouble.
mitchell is a poor excuse for a news person, she should be running a gossip col. in dc. because that is all she is good for doing.
andrea mitchell' show on msnbc, is the lames of all.

let sen. clinton stay in the senate
and run for POTUS next time.
and let obama get his own sos, from his group.
obama owes the sos to bill richardson.
for richardson supporting him.

Posted by: What? | Nov 19, 2008 9:14:40 AM

I initially thought this was a good idea. Now I think Obama should pull it back. There's too much drama already...the Clintons simply can't help themselves.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Nov 19, 2008 8:52:26 AM

Simply solution. It's time for Hilary to divoice Bill. Problem solved.

Posted by: MM | Nov 19, 2008 1:33:31 AM

I was thinking that...lol. Seems to me he is getting to be more of a hinderance to her career. I like them both, but Bill can be off the wall sometimes with his mouth!

Posted by: Jwench | Nov 19, 2008 7:55:53 AM

Ok, these stories are starting to contradict one another. How about we don't write anything until you know something concrete.

Posted by: Jwench | Nov 19, 2008 7:49:49 AM

MM,
clearly this is what YOU would do.
but just maybe, sen. clinton has her own mind.

i think she is a decent person.
with a good upbringing, she is way to high-classed to do such.

but wouldn't the MSM think they had struck gold, if she did?

if sen. clinton left her husband of 30+years for a job with obama,
the msm will be so on that story,
until we will all be saying obama who?
because it will be wall to wall clinton.
all the time.
and MM, just think of how liberating it would be for bill and hill daugther Chelsea. And her mother, Mrs. Rodham.
the clinton' marriage is still their business, a lot of people have affairs, and stay together, why do the clintons need to break-up.
obama can get his own sos, from his group of friends and his associates.

I know people should want to serve when the president ask them to, but
hill having to break-up her family, to work for obama? that is a bit much.
who else would do such?

I think hill should stay in senate,
and obama give us some change, as he
promised.
of all of the people he is associated with, surely he can find one person, to take a chance on saying this person is capable also?

Posted by: What? | Nov 19, 2008 1:43:52 AM

sarah evans,

sen.clinton is smart, and i pray she will turn him down.
and let him find his own people.
but i cannot go with you on the whisper campaign.
why should sen.clinton have to resort to doing such a devious thing?
that would signal that she did not think she could win on her own merit.
and we all know she could.
she does not need to resort to such.
i chose to believe such is beneath her.
you have your opinion. that is just my opinion-she does not need to do such,
she can win outright, without underhanded crutches.

Posted by: What? | Nov 19, 2008 1:34:34 AM

Simply solution. It's time for Hilary to divoice Bill. Problem solved.

Posted by: MM | Nov 19, 2008 1:33:31 AM

Bill promised Hillary it was her time. She stuck by his side when he was a cheating jerk. It is her turn.

Posted by: Julie | Nov 19, 2008 1:30:52 AM

dema,
you don't know the clinton' bottom line.
you don't know what who has done for who.

you should just say if you were in this type of situation this is what you would do.

and whoever you are having to do it to,
would be your louse.

folks should stop projecting what they feel and would do, onto the clintons'
you give the clinton' way more power than they really deserve. they are good public servants, both,
but please, stop making them "all that"
in your life.

Posted by: What? | Nov 19, 2008 1:29:47 AM

The bottom line is that Bill Clinton is not willing to step back in favor of his wife's career. After all she's done for him, that makes him a louse.

Posted by: Dema | Nov 19, 2008 12:42:46 AM

If Hillary is smart, she'll realize this is nothing more than a stunt Obama is using to neutralize her in 2012. Her best move would be to politely turn him down and start a whispering campaign telling people she refused the position because she feels his foreign policy positions are naive and dangerous. Obama is going to be a one term President and she needs to start positioning herself now for the 2012 election.

Posted by: Sarah Evans | Nov 19, 2008 12:12:09 AM

roscoe02,
i am in agreement with you on your last two statements.

obama needs to pick a sos from some of his own people.

richardson, i think is owed something from obama for his support of him
let obama go ahead and give it to richardson.

what is up with all the drama around this?

sen. clinton has a job,
bill has his work
obama has his job.
let him find some of HIS loyalist to fill the sos positon.
leave the clinton' along.
and if this is some kind of chicago style political move,
and he thinks he is yanking sen. clinton around and her husband around,
it will only come back to bite him.
the clinton' are smart.
obama and co. outsmarted her with the campaigning.
but i think if he keeps up with this stuff with the clinton' esp. sen. clinton.
he will only be seen as some slick himself.

obama, leave the clinton' alone.

Posted by: What? | Nov 18, 2008 10:59:08 PM

MayBee---------------No one will ever be able to control Slick Willie! His wife can't control him! It will never happen!

Posted by: roscoe02 | Nov 18, 2008 10:56:12 PM

What?--- I`m really not sure that you’re right on this one. No one knew what slick Willie was up to in the Oval Office until it all came out in the wash (the Blue Dress). So, I'm sure Hillary would appreciate all the help she can get. Beyond that, I doubt that BHO needs all of this drama. He's better off finding someone who can bring real change to the administration. We don’t need more of the same!

Posted by: roscoe02 | Nov 18, 2008 10:49:50 PM

Mr Obama is an appeaser.

He putting it our for Hillary just to appease and make out like he is the good guy.

By making Godly demands that someone can not do What every other President has done in the past. Is just making a reason, for an excuse not to give the position to Hillary.


The Obama way, so he can say I tried, it is not my fault.

That should not surpise anyone at all.


Posted by: seah | Nov 18, 2008 10:47:08 PM

Did Obama choose Hillary so that he could control Bill? It is starting to sound like it.
What better way to stop an internationally popular former President from publicly disagreeing with you?

Posted by: MayBee | Nov 18, 2008 10:40:58 PM

question,
sen. clinton does not need obama to deal with her husband,
nor does she need the sos position.
let him get his own people.

what is between sen. clinton and her husband is their business.

obama has his own marriage to tend to.
michelle as much as called him a lie
on sixty minutes when talking about washing dishes.

once again obama needs sen. clinton more than she needs him.

Posted by: What? | Nov 18, 2008 10:33:29 PM

Question --- I agree! Now she has somone she can go to and say, hey, what is my husband up to?? And they should be able to tell her!! Oh, Willies so screwed!

Posted by: roscoe02 | Nov 18, 2008 10:22:50 PM

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