Political Punch

I like to see our bishops act with more courage. Thank God for leaders like Bishops Martino and Hermann. The Church must continue to state what is true and morally right, no matter the cost and no matter the venom, hatred and lies spewed at Holy Mother Church.

Look at the hatred for Christ and the actions of those who rejected truth. They spat in his face. Pontius Pilate asked, "what is truth?" Obama also claims he does not know what truth is --that to recognize human life is above his pay grade.

May God have mercy on the souls of all who resist the truth, hide from it, deceive others and try to impose what they want, rather than do what is right.

So when is the American Inquisition scheduled to start?

"would alienate many Americans and be interpreted by many Catholics as an attack on the Church."

The reverse, of course, being an attack on all those who don't recognize the Pope as their spiritual leader.

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and give to God what is God's." Is there some bit in the Gospel I missed about Jesus changing the Roman laws? I thought not.

We should be praying for conversion and the opening of President Elect Obama's heart so that he may truly come to the realization that the voiceless unborn have also been endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are the Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. I pray that President Elect Obama pays the Civil Rights movement forward to rightly include the unborn child.Catholics and ALL Christians should be fighting against abortion as it is murder,and the murder of an innocent at that.

The Catholic Hierarchy at the National Bishops Conference is nothing more than a bunch of OLD White haired and Bald men who have NO respect for women. When women asked for inclusion into the Church as deacons or priests, they slammed the door shut. Bishops have lost their credibility. When more than 55 percent of the Roman Catholics vote for Obama that is a powerful message. As CAtholics we are fed up with Bishops who pick and choose their morality soap boxes. NOT one of them came out and denounced their fellow bishops for all the child abuse and sexual abuse taking place by their fellow brother bishops and priests. Shame on Cardinal George and all his ilk. They are a bunch of old hipocrites that need a lesson in what humility is all about. They can scream all they want. Where was Cardinal George when George Bush waged the crazy war in Iraq? Where was he and his fellow bishops when tens of thousands died in Iraq??? LIsten, it is a known fact that bishops are members of the GOP. This was true even before the abortion issue. They voted against JFK in '60. Look at Spellman and his cohorts who stood with Nixon.

People are to wrapped up in the thought of "THE CHURCH RUNNING mY LIFE!!!". It is not about the church. It is about MURDER. If i held a gun to your 3 yr olds head you fall to the ground begging for me not to kill the child. What is the difference in killing a grown child and a baby in the womb. NONE!! The child should have the right to live. There are tons of people out there that can care of a child that can't have one. LIKE MY WIFE!! We would like to adopt and give a kid a loving home but nooo... People that can have them just say "The baby doesn't matter.. I'll kill it and won't have to deal with the crying and the diaper changes." Any one that believes in killing an unborn child without good cause should be put down with the child. Then we wouldn't have to sit back and listen to people like DAVE who doesn't know anything about the hurt that abortion causes the baby, not to mention people like my wife that would love and provide for a child even if it didn't come from her womb. So before you go spouting off at the mouth sit back and think how you would feel if you couldn't hold a child in your arms because of a desease like diabetes that made you unfertile.

If the Catholic church wants to run the lives of their members, that is their business but stay OUT of mine! The RCC is a bunch of hypocrites who refuses to respect womens rights and spout platitudes about when life begins but thinks nothing about ordering the extermination of whole cultures of people during the crusades. They've imprisoned scientific and critical thinkers for views contrary to the Church. They've roasted people alive on a spit that didn't agree with their views. Some church of my God! Some supporters of the RCC need to research the Pope's prior position in the Church before telling others what a wonderful man this is.

I am not wholeheartedly against abortion, but there should be some limits too it. If it was a violent act against the woman than I could understand, or a chance that the mother may die or the child born with a severe birth defect then yes. But the policy that obama is going to putt into effect will have no such stimulations on it. He is even going so far as to say that 2nd and 3rd term abortions are ok. The baby becomes aware in the nd term. That is murder no matter who you are.

Religious leaders have been thwarting and fighting all human rights since the dawn of religion. (This is because their goal it to control the masses.) Oh, yes, the brave fringe religious folks have gone out on a limb to join the fight - but the fight for equality of women and blacks was fought (initally) by Free Thinkers - Liberals - Atheists - Agnostics - Deists and the like, NEVER Conservatives. Only after the fact do the religious take the credit. Study the suffragette movement and you will read that the women leaders of this movement were not religious or, if so, only marginally so and very critical of religious oppression. Birth control was and still is fought "tooth and nail" by the Roman Catholic Church. And our laws in the 1800's were such that the sale of birth control devices could land a person in jail. We must continue to fight these old mean (child molester) men about a woman's right to have control over her body. Toghther we, the people, can win, we have before!

What's the difference?

A worried woman went to her gynecologist and said: "Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is not even 1 yr. old and I'm pregnant again. I don't want kids so close together."

So the doctor said: "Ok, and what do you want me to do?"

She said: "I want you to end my pregnancy, and I'm counting on your help with this."

The doctor thought for a little, and after some silence he said to the
lady: "I think I have a better solution for your problem. It's less
dangerous for you too."

She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request.

Then he continued: "You see, in order for you not to have to take care of 2 babies at the same time, let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms.

The lady was horrified and said: "No doctor! How terrible! It's a
crime to kill a child!"

"I agree", the doctor replied. "But you seemed to be ok with
it, so I thought maybe that was the best solution." The doctor smiled,realizing that he had made his point.

He convinced the mom that there is no difference in killing a
child that's already been born and one that's still in the womb. The
crime is the same!

By the way, ADAM became man when God breathed the breath of life in his lungs, but ADAM didn't begin in the womb, he was the FIRST man. Everyone, except for Adam and Eve began in the womb with a soul that God gave them.

I didn't want a child, found out I was pregnant while taking birth control. My son is now 8 years old and I thank God every day for giving him to me. He is a BLESSING from GOD! LIFE IS PRECIOUS! We have to stop allowing people to kill an unborn baby just because they don't want them! It is MURDER! You say it's not because they can't live outside the womb? Well a newborn can't live without it's mom or someone taking care of it, so is it ok to throw it in the dumpster? What's the difference, throw it in the dumpster before birth or after birth? NO DIFFERENCE!

True, the catholic church wants to divert attention from all the abuses they have inflicted on their victims. They are still complicit in the genocide in Rwanda, and if you go back to the holocaust, they have also been involved, and which they have apologized for in saying that they "have not done enough" to help prevent the abuse. These are a bunch of old men who have no concept of the real world, enjoying comfortable lives on their wealth and the offerings from the parishoners. It is like asking the man from Mars to come lead us. They should just stay out of politics, pray for the sins of mankind and themselves and stop telling us what to do, for "they know not what they doeth."

After many years of thought and a minor association with the Catholic church,I find their doctrines a little bit mindless and without cognition. The world is being overpopulated with psychological cannibalism in many areas in the world and the church is oblivious to these happenings. The more crowded we become, the greater barbarian acts will be performed. Man worried about the disappearance of the sun when he occupied a cave and built a superficial wrapping blanket within his mind to protect him so he thought. The loving God is only there to protect those that covet, lie, cheat and murder. A look back in history will indicate the future since history does repeat and repeat. Perhaps the church should wake up. We are many years older but our brains are in an atrophytic stage.

If you go in the doors of Holy Smoke, do they tell you that you must not think any more? Probably so, otherwise you may start wondering why Friar Tuck wants to go camping with your son so often. The reason every other sermon is about abortion, is to divert attention from this sort of thing.

really? the Catholic church is "warning" the new administration? if only the church would put that much effort into the evil that is priest abuse of children.

In case anyone did not notice, we have this thing called Abortion. And it will NEVER just be suddenly "voted away" magically.

Why people keep fighting a battle that cannot be won is beyond me.

Focus on helping families avoid abortions, that would be more useful.

Bush had a majority in congress and a majority in the supreme court what did he do for abortion?

Nothing! Why? Because it exists, and no amount of voting will suddenly not make it exist. Period.

If 'the' Church, or for that matter ANY church, wants to attempt to steer American legal systems to it's own concept of morality/legalities, their TAX EXEMPT STATUS SHOULD BE STRIPPED FROM THEM!

End of story.

Although I disagree with the Catholic church on most issues I do believe in the sanctity of life. The state has an obligation to protect the vulnerable, although some may argue that life begins at birth, the movement of the baby in womb clearly shows it is living. One of the vital signs of life is movement. Therefore the unborn child should be considered as citizen and should be protected from those who seek its harm. The common argument is that the mother should be able to profess her will over her own body, I agree. However the child and the mother share distinct bodies, therefore the mother cannot profess her will over the child's body. They are two unique individuals. With this in mind abortion is a homicide.

I cases of rape it is understandable for women to want to abort, however it is not right. As a liberal democracy the government has the responsibility to protect every individual from the encroachment of other individuals, especially if life threatening. The unborn child has no fault in the matter, it is blameless, and cannot be the scapegoat for its mothers pain. There are other alternatives to abortion, adoption etc. As a nation states each country should cherish life and protect it above other interests.

Prevention is the best way to avoid unwanted pregnancies. Contraception should be used in the form of condoms. The Catholic church states that its wrong to use contraception. However, nowhere in the bible does it state that it is wrong. Married couples should use contraception. I believe that God allows contraception to be used, He understands that families can only sustain a number of children, and that too many children can cause for families to live in poor conditions. For those who say that its against Gods will to use contraception, you are wrong. God is opposed to sin but if you use contraception you are not sinning against God or you brethren. Simply because you are not harming anyone, or committing a vile act with your wife or husband. You are preventing, not allowing a life to come to the world which you cannot care for properly. I would advice the church to read the Bible first and then make up its doctrine.

To conclude, the value of life is what differentiates the west from other countries. We seek to protect our people and ensure they have all the basic rights that as people they are entitled to. The right to live free of fear, persecution and danger. The right to speak freely without inciting hatred and most importantly of all the right to live. All are entitled to life, not only those who have been born, but also those who wait to be born. Those who are alive as we are.

to the pro life who of you will take any one of these baby's home and bring up as your own if not how can you voice your ways on others

Why does religous zealots only focus on abortion and issues related to gays? Doesn't their bibles contain others issue of concern like feeding the poor and justice for all?

Obama should listen to the Bishops!

So many opinions about what President Obama views about Abortion, and yet all of you who bash his views are no far better than he is. How is it that the Catholics criticize Him when you all gamble to raise funds, not to mention other issues? Who all believe that Mary is one you pray for rather than the God almighty? How dare you. President Obama has made a point that he does not support "Abortion," but do not want to make a choice for the women who chooses to do so. How can he make such a decision when it is not his body? It is the choice of the woman. You cannot expect for Obama to make a choice for a woman who made have become pregnant due to rape or incest and decides to get rid of it. I would never want a man to make that choice for me...it is the right of the woman and that's the bottom line. All of you have own dirty laundry to clean up. Deal with it and allow Obama to govern our nation as necessary.