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Loose Ends II: Oy-bama and the Jewish Vote

November 05, 2008 1:16 PM

Despite all the talk of racist old Jews in Florida, the middle name "Hussein," Muslim heritage, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and how Obama's position on Iran would lead to another Holocaust, President-elect Barack Obama not only won the Jewish vote yesterday with 77% of their vote, that was an improvement on the Jewish vote numbers earned by Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., four years ago.

And yet, the Republican Jewish Coalition is today trying to paint this as a victory, in what might be the worst spin of the day.

"Compared to John Kerry's results four years ago, Obama increased his level of support among all voters," says RJC executive director Matt Brooks. "Yet, Obama's gains among Jewish voters were smaller than among other key demographic groups."

Brooks argues that Obama bested Kerry on the percentage of Catholic voters, African-American voters, and Latino voters he won by anywhere from 7 to 13 points, "(y)et, his increase among Jewish voters was only 4 points ahead of Kerry's numbers in 2004...This data clearly shows that there are still nagging doubts in the Jewish community about how President-elect Obama will lead on important issues affecting the Jewish community and our national security."

"Nagging doubts" so much so that Obama won more than three out of four Jewish voters and did better than Kerry among them?

I believe the word for that is meshugenah.

- jpt

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let us get to work to build a better world for our children no need to fuss and grumble over what went bad.

Posted by: leila ellis | Nov 7, 2008 11:05:25 PM

I’m wondering why my response to another poster here at 1:27:55 a.m. today removed. In it I mention that I mistakenly posted it to another thread earlier in the day, but to me it would make the most sense to remove it from “Among Other Voters” and leave it here, where the other poster is more likely to see it.

Posted by: Erika | Nov 7, 2008 12:39:00 PM

Brooklyn Democrat, you wrote:

“Maybe you can join Governor Palin in a constitution tutorial. She thinks that freedom of speech protects her from press criticism.”

Have you ever heard of something having a “chilling effect”? The fact that it has been impossible for months now to say anything negative Obama -anything - is the problem, and that’s what Gov. Palin was saying. The media absolutely shirked its role of, to the best of its ability, impartial reporting, in order to be Obama’s pit bull. It became his advocate in this election, always under the pretense of “we’re just calling ’em as we see ’em - Obama just happens to be right once again.” It was really remarkable that thousands upon thousands upon thousands of times Obama could be right - always right. He really has yet to be wrong about anything, as the media has always been there to “explain” his side of things for him. I’m sure many people don’t believe the media was that biased right now, but it’s something that can’t be hid forever, because one secret that it is impossible to keep - despite the fact that many leaders have tried it - is that the president, even if it’s Obama, is only human, and not God. Even when dictators force the media under their control to show them in an absolutely positive light, nobody’s fooled for long. In this case, reality is going to get the upper hand eventually, despite the media being in his corner, and it’s not going to take four years. And the media is going to look foolish and irresponsible. It has a vital role in our democracy, and it’s one that, unlike that of the government, it holds completely on trust that it won’t abuse its power. But in this election, the media essentially became an extension of Obama’s campaign, seeing everything his way and spinning everything his way. And the result of the media’s unprecedented bias is that way, way too many people have him up on an inhuman pedestal at this time. No person or president is perfect. Far, far from it. Just for one example, it was terrible judgment of him, especially in terms of symbolism, to have a communist band play for him. What sort of message does that send to our nation’s young people, so many of whom idolize him? But it is impossible to bring up anything negative about him because, again, it isn’t allowed to say anything negative about him. But it really does no one any favors, ever, to idealize a person to that point that Obama has been. In fact, it’s always hazardous to do so.

Posted by: Erika | Nov 7, 2008 2:35:31 AM

But why was the press criticizing Palin? To make her shut up. The press is not neutral.

Posted by: Michelle | Nov 6, 2008 1:43:23 PM

Concerned in Ohio -

Maybe you can join Governor Palin in a constitution tutorial. She thinks that freedom of speech protects her from press criticism. You think that someone who hasn't been sworn in can be impeached.

God, I love this country.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | Nov 6, 2008 1:15:24 PM

Obama the messiah, yup that is what Farrakan calls him, and the "Change" outlined in the Jesse Jackson interview with the New York Post. Obama's real views about Israel and jews locked up in the LA Times. So yes my former Russian immigrant Jews that joined the Revolution only to find the revolution revolting. To bad Joe the Plumber saw the danger to Israel and you didn't. You can say all you want about Palin and McCain the German jews never saw it coming either. Oh yea abortion rights are more important

Posted by: Dave | Nov 6, 2008 8:05:56 AM

Worse spin EVA! I'm glad that the crap the RJC was throwing and their outright lies didn't effect Sen. Obama!

BTW, funny link to urban dictionary for "meshugenah". The use of the word in that sentence applies to that dude Brooks!

Posted by: ddc | Nov 6, 2008 6:03:47 AM

Initially, I felt McCain had despicably used Palin, no matter how much I disliked her, but now I no longer feel sorry for her after reading new reports about her diva behaviour and tantrums.

This woman apparently, when told to get three suits or the RNC and hire a stylist, took advantage of the money handed to her and went on a big time shopping spree (more then the $150 000) for her family, buying tens of thousands of dollars worth of clothes for her husband. She made the campaign aides charge it to their credit card, and took advantage of a wealthy donor-who got a shock when he got the bill.

Feminist? She demeans us all women by being so supremely ignorant and uninformed, wanting to take away our rights to choose. I can understand her pro-life stance, but it is entirely another thing for her to think it is acceptable for her to force her beliefs on the rest of us whether we like it or not- when she said she wants to overturn Roe v Wade. I didn't quite like how she would be parading her yougest daughter and baby son al.l over the stage. That poor baby needs his rest, not to be brought to such noisy events almost everyday. There are conservative women more intelligent and worthy of notice then Sarah Palin in the United States Senate and House of Representatives.

Posted by: Grey Matter | Nov 6, 2008 4:12:56 AM

Erika

you folks, Republicans,... LOST the election...

Your starting to sound like the folks who keep wanting to wage the Civil War again....
Republicans are such sore LOSERS.
The only thing you folks care about is winning, not that your able to govern.... you don't give a damn about America unless your 'running the show' or killing someone.

Obama is going to fix what he can with or without Republicans.

Posted by: Blue | Nov 5, 2008 11:46:48 PM

Posted by: Concerned in OH
"I think it's high time we impeached President-elect 0bama."

- since he's not even in office yet that would be hard to do... but, you & yer buddy repubs don't care whether he can actually get anything accomplished..... all you want is to get back in power so you can further damage America.

I mean, haven't you folks done enough to ruin America already?

Posted by: Blue | Nov 5, 2008 11:41:11 PM

Blue, you wrote:

"all politicians from this point on, regardless of party affiliation are on notice that if your not taking care of 'biz'... you will be voted out of office."

How so? To Democrats, was the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac crisis really a travesty that has hurt people, or was it just nothing more than the "October surprise" (a little early) to secure the White House for Obama? If it really was the former, then it should matter how badly Congress mismanaged oversight of FM and FM for years, and how involved in that mismanagement Democrats were, not just Republicans, even if that wouldn't have been as helpful as the line that "this is all the Republicans' fault." It should all come down to what the evidence shows, shouldn't it? Here are some stories about it: “Who Caused the Economic Crisis?” (Factcheck), “Fannie Mae and the Vast Bipartisan Conspiracy,” (Slate), “How Washington Failed to Rein In Fannie, Freddie” (Washington Post), “Dodd and Frank, step down,” (Providence Journal), “If Not Now, When? (Hartford Courant), and “Senator Dodd’s Notion of Courtesy.” The last two discuss how Sen. Dodd failed as promised to release documents related to loans he got from Countrywide, which was involved in the sub-prime mess.

Posted by: Erika | Nov 5, 2008 11:38:42 PM

Concerned in OH

Bush is still President until January

Posted by: MM | Nov 5, 2008 7:37:32 PM

"The DOW went down 5%. That's not the kind of change I was expecting."

More specious reasoning from Ashley Todd's biggest fan.

"Beyond broad economic concerns, worries about the financial sector intensified after Goldman Sachs Group Inc. began to notify about 3,200 employees globally that they have been lost their jobs as part of a broader plan to slash 10 percent of the investment bank’s work force, a person familiar with the situation said. The cuts were first reported last month. Goldman fell 8 percent, while other financial names also fell; Citigroup Inc. dropped 14 percent.

Commodities stocks also fell after steelmaker ArcelorMittal said it would slash production because of weakening demand. Its stock plunged 21.5 percent."

Posted by: Ryan C | Nov 5, 2008 7:15:35 PM

hey becky
YOU SURE HAVE THAT RIGHT----THERE IS A LOT MORE TO PALIN THAN ONE COULD IMAGINE--AND IT AINT OVER WITH HER YET.

Posted by: rodney | Nov 5, 2008 6:15:32 PM

I'm a proud Jewish Republican. We are out there, but keep quiet at Shul. We've been slowly saving $$ for the time when our taxes go through the roof. There's a reason US ex-pats in Israel voted 3 - 1 in favor of McCain. It's because of Israel's neighbors.

Posted by: VJ | Nov 5, 2008 6:13:38 PM

Mozel Tov to my Jewish friends! Glad we're in this together!

I have no idea why anyone would want to be President right now. There isn't a single postive economic indicator,we have a $10 Trillion dollar debt, the largest budget deficit in history, in 8 years we borrowed in record amounts from every nation imaginable to falsly keep the economy going, on top of a two front war.....not going to be fun.

Obama is a TRUE LEADER. He is inspirational. And he is a uniter to many as the above stats show. But he is only one man.

Americans need to realize that we, as Americans, have come to the time to take responsibility.

We cannot keep passing our problems to the next generations. The notion of buy now, borrow now, pay later has to stop with Obama's administration. This means it will be a tough go for a while. There's just no way around it.

I belive most of us who supported Barack know this. We are willing to make sacrifices to get the country back on track. No matter who won, that is what it would take. There are no simple and quick solutions to problems that took many years to create.

The sarcastic morons who know nothing other than negativity need to grow up. You lost an election, get over it. Dems need to get over the gloating. It's no better.

These are the same psuedo-patriotic idiots who think a waving flag makes one patriotic. They prefer to drag people down rather than bringing people up. That's about as unpatrotic as it gets for an American.

I for one, am sick of it. This is my country. I will not let these morons defeat what is best in us.

We have made the first step in voicing our opposition to those who will dwell in hate filled rhetoric.

I would hope that folks would understand that it makes more sense to work together rather than sitting on your ass hoping for failure. But again, with or without you, we're moving foreward.

Posted by: The New Patriots | Nov 5, 2008 5:56:39 PM

I want to add my best wishes and have a part of the wonderful feeling. If it only last a few days it is still great to be here where I am right now. It has been years .......can't go on overcome.

Posted by: Bonnie Kimberly | Nov 5, 2008 5:48:31 PM

Muslims voted for the smart and the calm candidate. Did I say the winner?

Posted by: mohamed | Nov 5, 2008 5:35:22 PM

Palin was not the reason Obama won or McCain lost. That would be naive and unnecessarily partisan. And the harder you bash her after this, the stronger she will become.

McCain managed Sarah Palin's introduction to the Republican Party and the national electorate. For a first timer in the big game, she did quite well. She will do better having proven she is a quick study, a fast mover, and loyal. Once free of this campaign and after time to work her day job again, she will be back, stronger, better prepared and firmly in control o her own campaigns.

Sarah Palin is here to stay and that is good because feminism badly needs a new champion that can pull from the center, and women need a new example of how they can have normal lives and still have political and social power. For two long, feminism has been the exclusive base of the extremes of women's issues and examples, and among the many changes wrought by this election cycle, the emergence of a new face for feminism, not made by her husband's power or even as a team, but by her own hand, that may be the biggest and most significant change of all.

We'll be watching.

Posted by: len | Nov 5, 2008 5:30:56 PM

You know - what I find extremely ironic is all the "let's join and be nice" garbage coming from some of you on the left. I bet if we looked back at most your posts, we'd find hate filled ramblings, how you can't stand REPUBLICANS and how Bush is NOT your President, etc. And now, because the mightly Barack is President-Elect, we are all supposed to fall down, worship and adore him. Sorry folks, it doesn't work that way. Some of us just do NOT like him We don't have to like him. Doesn't make us racists. Makes us individuals. And your calls for all this "unity" will be ignored because President-elect Obama has no desire to UNITE anything.

Posted by: Doris | Nov 5, 2008 5:30:45 PM

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