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Nadler Criticizes Obama’s 'Courage'
November 02, 2008 11:10 PM
Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-NY, was down in Florida over the weekend, and one supposes that he thought he was helping Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., but it will ultimately be hard to make that case.
Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugged has posted some video of Nadler at a synagogue in Boca Raton trying to explain why Obama was able to stay in Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years.
He starts off my saying he has no idea of what he's talking about. And then he proceeds to open mouth, insert foot.
Says Nadler: “I have no personal knowledge of what I'm about to say. What I'm about to say is my guess...”
Hoo boy.
“My guess,” Nadler said, “knowing how politics works, what I'm about to say is not particularly...”
He searches for the word. Rejects a couple suggestions.
“...not particularly complimentary towards Sen. Obama,” he says.
“Think of the history here,” says the six-term New York congressman. “You have a guy who's half-white, half-black. He goes to an Ivy League school, comes to Chicago ... to start a political career. Doesn't know anybody.
“Gets involved with community organizing -- why? Because that's how your form a base. OK. Joins the largest church in the neighborhood. About 8,000 members. ... Why did he join the church? ... Because that's how you get to know people.
“Now maybe it takes a couple years,” Nadler says, suggesting that soon Obama starts to think of Wright, “'Jesus, the guy's a nut, the guy's a lunatic.' But you don’t walk out of a church with 8,000 members in your district.”
Suggests a woman: “You don’t walk in though.”
“He didn't know it when he walked in, presumably,” said Nadler.
And then, the line that may haunt Nadler for four years or longer: “He didn't have the political courage to make the statement of walking out.
“Now, what does it tell me?” Nadler asked. “It tells me that he wasn't terribly political courageous. Does it tell me that he agreed with the reverend in any way? No. It tells me he didn't want to walk out of a church in his district.”
What’s even funnier about this is that the previous time I can recall Nadler talking about Obama was in December 2006, when Jason Horowitz of the New York Observer chatted with him at the Israeli Policy Forum.
Nadler told the Observer that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., “had called him earlier yesterday to tell him that she was leaning towards running for president, and that he said he would support her. His choice, he explained, was a pragmatic one.
"'I don't see a lot of other good possibilities in our party,' said Nadler… 'Someone like Barack Obama, who is suddenly a real candidate, always worries me, because he is a novice candidate. He hasn't done it before. Novice candidates, not always, but 95 percent of the time make a mistake. I made some terrible mistakes in office, when I was district leader, no one remembers what they are. I wasn't in front of all the news cameras.'”
Yes, Congressman Nadler. Heaven forbid that you make a mistake in front of a camera! Only a novice would make such a mistake!
Oy!
- jpt
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I've been told day and night by the media, celebrities, etc. that if i do not vote for Obama, I am a racist. I plan on embracing my inner racist and letting it all hang out just like j. wright, l. farrakhan, k. rashidi, j. cone, meeks, et al. I think blacks should embrace their inner racists as well and instead of hating whites privately, just let it out. My experience is that blacks hate Latinos, Asians and others who are not like them.
Posted by: Patricia | Nov 4, 2008 3:47:13 PM
Hamas in Church Bulletin ("spiritual mentor" on Enemy side).
Audacious1: "I don't believe my Church is, uh, particularly controversial".
A2: "I can no more disown Rev.Wright..."
A3: Wright officially disowned; "I wasn't there when he made those detestable remarks."
Nadler: "Presumably" ...
Posted by: SmokingGun | Nov 3, 2008 8:49:26 PM
Well if Pamela Geller thinks that, why don't we have Lyndon LaRouche's opinion on it?
Posted by: Righteous Bubba | Nov 3, 2008 7:11:33 PM
Typo: It wasn't that long after African Americans had been denied the facilities . . . . I've done enough typing today. Patricia ,I didn't presume you were a McCain supporter. I just found your views similar to what was being expressed at rallies 2-3 weeks ago where Obama was being presented as the Other, as someone different to be feared along with his associations, with care being taken not to put his otherness as an African American. Gotta go.
Posted by: kat | Nov 3, 2008 5:57:55 PM
Patricia -No, the truth is not despicable. Black Liberation Theology is a product of the sixties when segregation was still taking place in schools. It wasn't that long after After American's were denied the facilities of whites (front of the bus, restrooms,ect.). Many agree with Obama that BLT is outdated and poses little relevance in todays world. Furthermore, I don't like its emphasis on victimization. Fortunately, I encounter racism, which can be despicable, very infrequently in my environment and associations. I've had enough at this point in writing back and forth to someone with racist tendencies, though you don't strike me as a bad person at all, just a fearful one. Enough said.
Posted by: kat | Nov 3, 2008 5:49:05 PM
If you think there is hatred at McCain rallies, what do you think of those that attend Obama rallies wearing tee shirts that say "Sarah Palin is a ---?
Posted by: Patricia | Nov 3, 2008 5:27:21 PM
Did I ever mention that McCain is my candidate? The answer to that is "no." You assume because I have problems with Obama's belief system, that I support McCain. See, you went there and I never even said it. Your mind filtered things the way you wanted to see them. That is why I go to people's writings before I believe what someone says about them. I am on very solid ground with this BLT crap and this is what Obama's spiritual mentor and preacher believes. I think everyone should be a little troubled by that belief system.
Posted by: Patricia | Nov 3, 2008 5:24:19 PM
Kat, maybe you are afraid to let the truth be known or afraid to face the truth yourself because it is so despicable.
Posted by: Patricia | Nov 3, 2008 5:19:49 PM
No, Miss Kat, these quotes came from James Cone himself, the founder of BLT. You can try to make me the bad guy here, but it looks like i'm the only one speaking truth to power as some love to say. Read Cone for yourself. Don't try to accuse me of putting words in his mouth. Read him and then talk to me. Cone also tells us that Blacks hate Whites for sure, but that does not make blacks racists. It is a righteous hatred in his words. Im the type that goes right to the source. The source is Cone's own books and writings. Check it out before you accuse me of irrational fear. I just want to know what people really believe, not what they want me to believe they believe.
Posted by: Patricia | Nov 3, 2008 5:17:25 PM
Patricia - I don't know where you're getting your quotes from. Black Liberation Theology falls under the umbrella of Social Christianity and Wright was a United Church of Christ minister. I have issues with BLT myself but not demonizing ones. Your'e expressing the kind of fear, misunderstanding and anger that have been present at McCain rallies and which ultimately helped to bring down his campaign.
Posted by: kat | Nov 3, 2008 5:07:37 PM
"To be black is to be committed to destroying everything this country loves and adores." Or again, "Black theology will accept only a love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy." James Cone, founder of black liberation theology. Sorry Kat, I did get Cone and Farrakhan mixed up a little, but it's all part of the same crapola.
It's tough to swallow that the possibly next POTUS adhered to this stuff or at least is friends with people who adhered to this stuff. He, at the very least, used Wright as his spiritual mentor, preacher and advisor. He let his kids listen to Wrights hateful sermons.
Posted by: Patricia | Nov 3, 2008 4:42:57 PM
We still cannot expect us to be like Norway. Richest country or not you still cannot make doctors practice medicine. What are you going to do hold a gun to their heads. They either want to practice, and I hate that term, because they do at times just practice, or they aren't. No politician in this country can make them do that. Over here every politician is loyal to only the lobbyists that keep them there. It sounds god. vut, I have been around for a long time and no one party or one man can change the way they do things. It simply will not happen. If it was as easy as the way Norway does it than why are all of the other countries, England, Canada still failing? It has little to do with money as it does with covering their own butts. It sounds nice, but, it will not happen in this country until politicians start to care and I mean in more than just words. Actions speak louder than words. Both candidates haven't been able to vote for anything that matters. If you can't take a stand and make a decision there isn't much hope. Another four years of pointing the fingers at the other side!!!
Posted by: Cathy | Nov 3, 2008 4:39:48 PM
My previous post was for Particia @ 3:43. I thought I'd clarify that and emphasize again that I find the topic of Wright inappropriate for a major news outlet.
Posted by: kat | Nov 3, 2008 4:20:18 PM
I certainly don't agree with all of Wright's verbiage, but he has categorically never said that white people are the root of all evil and that they should be eliminated. I truly believe you're expressing a profound fear of African Americans. I think there's been a strong subtext of fear surrounding Obama's candidacy, perhaps that of African Americans abusing power towards whites in a repeat history of sorts. When repetitive incendiary topics are brought up, the incendiary likely follows. I hope the Wright article topic has been totally exhausted on this ABC website, but somehow, I doubt it. And I hope the people who fear Obama can learn to see beyond the shadows of their fear.
Posted by: kat | Nov 3, 2008 4:13:41 PM
Cathy, I am a long time nurse, I know about the broken system we have. I am now living in Norway, and I can tell you national health care is great! The richest country in the world can pull it off, if they place human life before profits.
Posted by: shirley | Nov 3, 2008 4:03:42 PM
National Health care is not the problem, finding a doctor who doctors is the problem. The best insurance you can buy does not make good health care, it only gets you in the door, after that the insurance has finished its job. Be careful what you wish for. I know of which I speak I have been in the health care system for 14 years, have the best insurance my husband's job offers and I pay my copay, which, has to be paid before you see the doctor, because once you pay it than you can't get it back when you walk out of the door from a doctor who only treats the symptoms never the cause. You cannot make a doctor practice medicine. So insurance only gets you in the door. If they cannot prscribe a medicine for it than the problem you have does not exist. People need to remember that health care cannot be mandated.
Posted by: Cathy | Nov 3, 2008 3:54:26 PM
Kat, explain a little bit of Black Liberation Theology to me. If Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., espoused Black Liberation Theology then he was out of bounds, just like Jeremiah Wright. At least for me because I do not believe that whites are the cause of all the evil in the world. Nor do I believe that white people should be eliminated. But if that is what Martin Luther King Jr. believed, then I would not think very much of him, either. Besides, the article we are talking about references Obama's relationship to Wright and Trinity UCC. The so-called distraction is the topic.
Posted by: Patricia | Nov 3, 2008 3:43:39 PM
If having national health care is socialism, bring it on baby, you betcha' wink wink
Posted by: shirley | Nov 3, 2008 3:40:35 PM
To everyone out there, you will not get us to change our minds about the person best suited to be president. It won't happen!!!! You have your opinion and they have theirs and that is okay. If we ever expect this country to bridge the wide gap caused by both sides in this election than we need to remember that we are one country, one people and without each other we have nothing. Politicians aside, we don't need them as much as we need each other. We are what makes this country run, not washington d.c., be glad that they are there and not involved in our everyday life. If we keep dissing each other this country will fall apart.
Posted by: Cathy | Nov 3, 2008 3:39:59 PM
I forgot, socialism is not one of the "isms" that progressives do not like. Supposedly sexism and racism are bad except when it is Obama practicing those isms or friends of Obama's practicing those isms. Sorry about the socialism stuff. So called progressives are more than happy with the socialism, marxism, communism stuff.
Posted by: Patricia | Nov 3, 2008 3:38:56 PM
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