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OH yeah, and both groups are trying to erase the concept of seperation of church/mosque and state.

I wonder if the founders of this great nation thought that in 200 years our educated citizens would still be taking cheap shots at the President and President-Elect after the election. I wonder if the founders thought that if we would ever face a great crisis, that instead of working together, we be whining about who to blame.

The following post is simply incredible:

Seems like Keith still can't get over Obama's win.

When the current President has virtually quit and isn't saying or doing much, the next one on deck should say something. If that bothers some of you because you need to see Obama "stay in his place", I suggest you build a time machine and go back to the 1940's so you can build some self-esteem. Or, as you loved to tell blacks and Democrats over the years, "This is America, love it or leave it!"

Posted by: robXdion

Do anyone think that US should stay in the Middle East or get out all together?

Gang, let's be clear. Many of you are saying that Obama MUST make statements because Bush "has checked out" or "is useless" or "is just counting the days" or "has virtually quit." That simply isn't true. Bush is on the ball with the situation in India, as he is on the ball with the economic bailout and lots of other issues. He issues statements, he meets with advisors, he makes phone calls-- just like Obama, except that it's actually Bush's job. He also holds national security meetings, sends assistance, and a myriad of other things, most of which we will not be told about. However, the press and the public show no interest in what he is doing-- they rush to see what the Chosen One will say or do instead. Please do not assume that because you didn't read on Mr. Tapper's blog or see on the evening news precisely what the president is doing, that means he is not doing anything. Things actually do happen in Washington even when people are not pointing a microphone or a camera at the person who is acting.

Oh, ProgressiveGurl, you are entertaining on this bleak, rainy morning. You actually wrote, apparently with a straight face, in your gushing praise of Obama which, like so much of the praise that appears around here, is couched in putdowns of previous presidents: "At least Obama is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations committee and has traveled extensively abroad on behalf of the U.S. and he is also a member or a chairs of Senate subcommittee that deals extensively with NATO." Oh, heaven forfend that we elect someone who is not a member of an important Senate committee. That's where the real foreign policy work gets done, right? That's hilarious. And you are serious when you mention his chairming a subcommittee on NATO? You do recall that it came up in the primaries that he had never gotten around to actually holding any hearings with that subcommittee, remember? Too busy running for president-- Senate was always a stepping stone and once you've checked the box, no need to spend too much time on the minutia. Sorry, membership on the committee does not strike me as experience superior to leading a state (as did other presidents you denigrated) or serving in the military. Travelling the world with a Senate junket? Sometimes that's a way to develop experience, sometimes not. Depends on the individual and what s/he puts into the trips.

"Matter of fact Obama has more elected official experience than Ronald Reagan had and Jimmy Carter had when they first took office. He has more than Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Mitt Romeny and Rudy Guilliani. (yet only Obama's experience is ever questioned)." What on earth are you talking about? "elected official experience"? You mean he served in office somewhere at some level longer than those two men, who were both governors of large states who developed EXECUTIVE experience as a result? Funny, when people cited Palin's long experience as a city commissioner and mayor, that experience was ridiculed. But you figure I'm supposed to get real excited about a few years in the Illinois state legislature-- not in a leadership position, not in an executive capacity? Sorry, I don't see that as some fabulous credential. Nothing wrong with it-- don't misunderstand me-- just nothing great about it either. All the people you mention have developed leadership skills in a variety of ways-- for example, Guiliani was a prosecutor before he was mayor; Hillary was a very involved first lady of Arkansas and the United States before she was elected Senator. So please don't be so quick to put down these people in order to prop up Mr. Obama.

Experience can be compensated for, and he seems to be doing that with his Cabinet picks, which pleases me. It is not simply Obama's lack of experience that gives me pause. Sometimes a fresh approach is needed-- let us all hope that Obama has the right fresh approach to deal with the problems he will face effectively.

Patty: Illegal immigration is a vital part of the farm industry. Without them there would be no one to pick the apples, oranges, tomatoes etc. These people are the hardest of hardest workers you'll ever see and doing jobs that Americans will not do. These are people that came from desperate situations and want to make a better way of life for their children. Are you sure your ancestors were wanted in the is country? Were they really hear legally. If they came here because of the potato famine they're illegals. Yes, something has to be done about securing our border and I wish it would be done. I think most European Americans it's a little bit of fear of being outnumbered and the American way of life will be lost-well Americans faces have always changed and we continously evolve welcome to being multicultural. I do, however, get a little annoyed when I can't apply for a help wanted ad and have all the necessary qualifications except for one qualification and that is speaking Spanish fluently. These ads are cropping up more and more. When amnesty is given, the illegals will be required to read, write, speak English fluently. They will be required to be fingerprinted with their picture taken prior to and after the test-less cheating. Anyone caught in falsifying the passing of the test will do serious jail time.

B.O. media hound. Typical Dem. No class. No grace. Media made. Let's see your (real) vault copy of Birth Certificate!!! (Any one of you want to predict how long his paternal grandmother will live? She's the only one who knows his birth place because she was there. If I were she, I'd be worried.) What is he hiding? Trying to look presidential by offering condolences to the victims of Mumbai? We think you protest too much~ Your turn in January!

For those that continue to be suspicious of the authenticity of BO's birth certificate or rant that he is not a US citizen, go to factcheck.org if you dare.

Still not convinced? I guess that you didn't vote for BO and are still mad about the outcome of the election. As John McCain said during his appearance on Jay Leno, 'The one thing I think Americans don't want is a sore loser'.

It's great the two are working together. The only way out for us all is to work together. We're all in this together.

Michelle, your little boy needs direction - ABC / All Barack Channel will help you out with important issues like helping the kids make their mothers bed and picking out a dog - YAWN . He/Barry Sotero or Dunham needs your help locating his BIRTH CERTIFICATE - HEALTH RECORDS _ SCHOOL RECORDS - get that resolved first and stop disrespecting OUR CONSTITUTION - while you are at it - learn to Salute the Flag. Elected or not - you have no right to presidential info and January is still 2 months away.

This Mumbai attack is Bush's last test/challenge...however all incoming presidents receive some test/disaster upon taking up office. Clinton did in 1993 with the FIRST World Trade Center bombing(and then flinched in the eye of danger by not going after Bin Laden BEFORE he went into deep hiding) and of course George W. was greeted with the second attack on the World Trade Centers on 9/11. Both Bill and George had less experience as an elected official when they first took as office, than Obama will. Neither George or Bill had ANY foreign policy or national security experience. At least Obama is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations committee and has traveled extensively abroad on behalf of the U.S. and he is also a member or a chairs of Senate subcommittee that deals extensively with NATO. Matter of fact Obama has more elected official experience than Ronald Reagan had and Jimmy Carter had when they first took office. He has more than Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Mitt Romeny and Rudy Guilliani. (yet only Obama's experience is ever questioned).

Keith: "Obama takes over on January 20th. He needs to learn when to shut up. Inexperience showing?"

Keith,
He needs to know his place? Is that it? You need to learn some damn respect for your country. These are trying times and all you can do is offer up your puke as an opinion. Bush is not doing anything. He's too busy trying to save his legacy by revising history. I for one am thankful that we now have a grown up as President.

Obama wont get much information from Connie because she's clueless and it's Cheney who directed Connie. Now Obama need not go to the CIA as they messed up and got the information wrong. It was reported New York subways would be bombed but it was India not NY and it was hotels not subways. With 2/3 of the CIA agents gone as they walked out over the Valerie Plame Leak we have no one to translate information. Connie is only good for speaking Russian and playing the piano as her only Govenment job as Secretary of State was to carry memo's from Cheney and Rummy she wouldn't know Foreign Policy if it hit her in the face. The World Leaders laugh when she comes to visit because they know she's clueless and just the messager.

Walters, Russians have been attacked by terrorists multiple times with very high casualties

But there are more. As a general premise I agree that all countries have to stay together to fight terror.

neil,

you know who else didn't go to vietnam?

Bushie and Cheney.

All countries should be sticking together on terrorists.Bush does not control the world and neither will Obama.When we free these people we do not have to baby sit them forever.Get it? If the terrorists are in a main country the rest of the world should get them.By the way why arent Russians being attacked? Or why arent they helping? Why dont they mind seeing the US get hit? Why is Iran doing all they can to help? Bush didnt create all this ect. Where is all the people we feed and have fed? Obama is going to have to hit the ground running and he is going to need help from all. Come on world!USA cant baby sit no more! We are broke!

tim:

you too

neil...

well said. i agree, the democrats have EXACTLY what they have wanted for the last eight years. they have their liberal president, and have control of congress. possibly a filibuster proof congress if they can steal the election in minnesota as they are trying to do. so, that being said: SAVE THE WORLD. im a conservative, not the biggest fan of what the bush administration has done, or what modern day republicans have become, but here's your chance to save the world. no more excuses, although i have a very strange feeling (because it has started already) that you will claim "the democrats cant fix all of bush's mistakes in four years".. lol obama hasnt even been sworn in yet, and already they are making their claim for his second term, but thats just my opinion. the nation, and the entire world, is at a very crucial time, and electing a liberal, unexperienced canidate to be the leader of the free world was simply NOT the thing to do. if you cant see the trend hat has already started with the push towards full blown socialism in this country, you simply arent paying attention. so, here you go democrats. take the progressive movement you have been pushing for 40 years and run with it. ill be expecting my stimulus check ASAP. i need a new tv, thanks.

SO MUCH HATE, SO LITTLE TIME!!!!