Poll Cats -- One Day Out

Despite months of attacks on Obama's allegedly sinister background, 57% of voters in the new NBC/WSJ poll say Obama has a set of values they can identify with.

It was re: a MCCAIN AMENDMENT:

Here's more from Voinovich's statement:

On one side of this debate, there are proposals to create a mandatory domestic program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, such as the amendment that will be proposed by Senator McCain, to my understanding, and I strongly urge my colleagues to vote against this amendment.

It is my understanding that the amendment, according to Charles Rivers Associates, which analyzed its provisions, would cause the loss of 24,000 to 47,000 Ohio jobs, in 2010, and energy-intensive industries to shrink by 2.3 to 5.6 percent in 2020. We are talking about manufacturing industries, energy-intensive manufacturing and chemical and many others.

The McCain amendment will put coal out of business by forcing fuel switching to natural gas.

And John McCain's counter-argument:

Does it involve some sacrifice on the part of the American people? Yes. ... This amendment, I am sure, will be attacked--thousands of jobs will be lost, we will find some obscure scientist, some will talk about the dangers of encouraging the use of nuclear power. The fact is, we are going to win on this issue. The reason we are going to win is because every single month there is another manifestation of the terrible effects of what climate change is doing to our Earth.

Far right wingers - lie and attack first - facts irrelevant.

jhw539 I don't support either of these clowns. I base my opposition to Obama on his words and associations. Still awaiting your comment.

Concerned in OH: " You also heard the radio clip of the militant liberal talker directly say "I want Joe the Plumber dead"."

I was directly responding to a question. No, I have not heard the clip. Please post your cite. Thanks.

there are so many republicans running around hysterically screaming 'the sky is falling' that they've forgotten that the current Bush & Cheney regime is responsible for just about all of what they're screaming about...... Repubs have such short memories and what they do remember is selective at best........

be happy....republicans got to raid the treasury and line their pockets bigtime before they were ousted.

Concerned in OH Hey, we have already established that we can’t use his words against him. “The “True Believers” don’t care what he said.

If Obama wins in any of the coal-mining states then they deserve whatever wrath he sends their way.

It's what Obama said.
Make electric rates "skyrocket."
Punish coal companies.
Bankrupt new plants.
It IS what Obama said.
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It's what McCain said too, but I guess context is irrelevant to far right wingers.

The actual McCain video is available at Jed Report - here is just a bit of the REAL story:

Here's the facts that the McCain-Drudge-FOX axis of weasel does not want you to know: The Chronicle had not concealed the recording, which had been on the newspaper's website all along. And rather than reveal some sinister scheme, what it actually demonstrated was that Barack Obama supported clean coal technology -- a position he shares with none other than John McCain.

Despite the fact that both candidates support clean coal technology, the McCain campaign tried to make the case that Barack Obama wanted to take away jobs from coal country in Ohio and Pennsylvania, and both Drudge and FOX were happy to oblige.

But just three years ago on the floor of the United States Senate, John McCain's Republican colleague George Voinovich of Ohio took to the floor to argue against a proposal by McCain to curb greenhouse gas emissions. McCain's proposal, Voinovich said, would "put coal out of business" and cost thousands of jobs, an argument that McCain did not contest.

dewde
That is right and one of them is Barack Obama. "There are none as blind as those who will not see." He is telling in his book.

Posted by: Already Voted | Nov 3, 2008 10:13:34 AM

It's what Obama said.

Make electric rates "skyrocket."

Punish coal companies.

Bankrupt new plants.

It IS what Obama said.

Democrats have hidden Obama and Biden over the last few days so they cannot blurt out the truth or answer to any of these statements.

Gallop Poll's dirty little secrets.

"Obama was able to match McCain in maintaining party loyalty toward his candidacy: 91% of Democrats say they will vote for Obama"

"In the final poll, 38% of U.S. adults identified as Democrats, 34% as independents and 26% as Republicans. Among likely voters, the figures are 39%, 31% and 29%, respectively"

Gallop predicting Obama gets 91% of Democrats. And Democrats will out vote GOP by 10%.

WRONG and WRONGER!
watch out for PUMAs tomorrow!

Obama-Biden have said they want to bankrupt the US coal industry and let China take all the coal jobs plus make us dependent on Chinese coal.
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Republican Strategy - Lie & attack first - facts not important. Drudge/Fox/NewsBusters fall in line.

Meanwhile, the real story and great video of McCain on the Senate Floor discussing the coal industry available at The Jed Report.

Here's a quote for all of you:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."

Can anyone tell us who said it, when and what it described?

It's a quiz. I know the answer.

jhw539 See you fled the other thread. I don't support either of these clowns. I base my oppisition to Obama on his words and associations.

“To avoid being mistaken for a sell out, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students, The foreign students, The Chicanos, The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.” Barak Obama from “Dreams of My Father.

I have read both of Obama’s books and have been looking into his background for many months; long before he became so controversial after the Wright revelations. What I discovered is:

His father, the focus of his book, was a card carrying member of the Communist Party in Kenya. His mother attended a Marxist high school. His mentor growing up was Frank Marshall Davis, the poet he mentions above, a Communist Party member. His mentor in collage, Saul Alinski, his pastor the reverend Wright, his friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn Ayers, all Marxists. Early “Official Bloggers” on his own web site, Sam Graham Felsen and Mike Kolnsky are Marxists. He has been endorsed by Carl Davison a Marxist who serves as a national steering committee member of United for Peace and Justice a Marxist organization. The Communist Party USA endorses Obama and says that after all these years "its time has come"? He supports, and has campaigned for Kenya’s Raila Odinga, his cousin, a Marxist terrorist. He trained organizers for and served as a lawyer for, ACORN, a Marxist organization. He advocates the redistribution of wealth an idea right out of Karl Marx’s writings. In order for a government to redistribute wealth they must first confiscate it from those who have produced it as government only consumes wealth they do not produce it. Guilt by association; or birds of a feather perhaps?

"Which bit is it you object to? One man, one vote regardless of wealth? Or the wealthy paying more in taxes than the poor?"

Actually, it's not what we have now. I don't really think those who contribute nothing ought to control those who contribute everything.

The wealthy pay almost everything now.

"Do you really want to get into what conservative talk show hosts have been saying about Obama?"

Any time.

Who said harm should come to Obama?

Specifically, son.

drjohn: "GM- did you know that a liberal radio host in SF called for Joe the Plumber to die?"

Do you really want to get into what conservative talk show hosts have been saying about Obama?

What's up with Palin not following through and releasing her medical records? If she's not hiding anything, why be the only one to not release the records?

drjohn: "What do you have when 20% of the population pays ALL the taxes but the other 80% get to control them?"

Democracy with a progressive tax system. You know, like we have now.

Which bit is it you object to? One man, one vote regardless of wealth? Or the wealthy paying more in taxes than the poor?

Americans will reject Obama because of the "content of his character" not the color of his skin.

I don't think the majority of Americans will elect a US president with his world view.