Political Punch

They lost period.Game over.Regroup.Stop hating.Find peace in GOD.

George Bush handed the presidency to Obama by starting a financial panic. Obama will now be blamed for all of the failures of the Bush administration.

It's a plan, not a mistake.

Carolyn

The same number won the same Illinois Lottery on Christmas Day 2004, and also November 5th of 2001, and also on lots of other days. It's random, based on (scientific) odds. Next thing you know, you'll be studying numerology, superstitions, and have Palin's preacher in Alaska (the visiting one) protect you from witchcraft. Try being reality-based and read your Bible (as opposed to emails) for spiritual guidance. Focusing on the Gospel.

As for Karl Rove, he's only trying to protect his reputation. PBS broadcast Boogie Man on Tuesday, and I expect he's more than a bit worried.

OMG, Cottonn is right..look at the Illinois Lottery for the Evening pick 3 for November 5th. Wow...pretty weird! Most people just need to read the New King James Study Bible and just read the book of Daniel. It explains it all very clearly. So far the only thing off about this guy is that the AC is supposed to be a man of the military as he will be able to actually slay people. The charmisma is there...the religious background is there, the hidden agenda is there. I'm ready! Are any of you?

I don't agree with Rove. The GOP got a thumping, and not just because the Obama campaign did a good job of getting out the vote. It was also because people are sick of his style of dirty campaign tactics.

If you watched the Frontline special on Lee Atwater, Rove's protégé, you'd see that not much has changed in Republican campaign tactics in the last 20 years. They accused Dukakis' wife of burning an American flag, trying to paint her as unpatriotic. Sound familiar?

I've got an idea!....Let's take one-part Palinspeak and add it to two-parts Rovespeak...Maybe we'll get a coherent AND factual thought!....Of course, there is a chance that we'll just get a Whiskey Sour.

cottonn: "ACORN has one man, alive by the way, that they registered 72 times! 72 TIMES! In the same office. Now why wouldn't you catch that"

And you know why we know this? Because it was caught.

What, are you saying he was going to vote 72 times?

:-)

I think Rove is right with one exception: The exception is that Obama expanded the Dem base by pulling in the Hispanic vote. So he did more than just rile up the base.
But in general, I think Rove WAS right. Bush had a remarkable get out the vote effort and Obama did too. Just because the media didn't cover what Bush's campaign was doing (e.g., driving nursing home patients to the polls, using churches to excite fundies and get them to the polls, etc.) but covered everything Obama's campaign did in detail doesn't mean it didn't happen. (This is one reason many Dems were so shocked by the 2004 results)
Moreover,the MAIN reason the Obama versus McCain popular vote (53% vs. 46%) difference was greater than the popular vote difference between Bush and Kerry (51% to 48%) is that a large number of Republicans (probably the conservative base) sat home rather than vote for McCain. From what I understand, they see him as an apostate: a RINO if you will. So yeah, I think in general, Rove got it right. Both men did a great job getting the vote out of their core constituents. Although Obama should be commended for significantly expanding the Dem base with the Hispanic vote.

I'm pretty sure I don't agree with Rove either. This isn't the first time I've read about a conservative insisting that Obama's victory was because he did something conservatives have been doing successfully for ages. Some guy named Ed Feulner out of Miami credited Obama for "running as a conservative."

Monica, I know those numbers for the six years of Republican rule of White House, Senate and Congress are hard for you to fess up to - they are a disgrace.

Especially in a party like the Republicans who repeatedly lie about being for 'small government' when they're setting new records for GROSS overspending.

REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT
$421 Billion OVER BUDGET (2002)
$555 Billion OVER BUDGET (2003)
$596 Billion OVER BUDGET (2004)
$554 Billion OVER BUDGET (2005)
$574 Billion OVER BUDGET (2006)

And yes, as John McCain the Republican candidate for President said, "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" . . . that was the Republican party line and the Bush mantra as well . .. and certainly far from the truth.

Republicans should sit down and watch some old Reagan speeches and ask themselves how they got from Reagan to Rove in 20 years.

Imagine, the GOP once had a reason to exist.

Monica,
america is known around the world as having the best politicans money can buy.
I just hope Pres elect will stick to his promises and take from the rich (Oprah and the hollywood elite) and give to the poor. (us)
I'm still waiting for my $1000 and the gas card and my mortgage pmt.

Posted by: usa | Nov 13, 2008 4:32:58 PM
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Oprah will probably be in obama's cabinet,making sure we get get all the "free stuff" we have been promised, and crying on strangers shoulders. Just look under your seat and you will find your prize, oh, but don't forget you will have to pay taxes on it.

Monica,
america is known around the world as having the best politicans money can buy.
I just hope Pres elect will stick to his promises and take from the rich (Oprah and the hollywood elite) and give to the poor. (us)
I'm still waiting for my $1000 and the gas card and my mortgage pmt.

pefros;

You just don't get it...our economy fell in the toilet with this democratic congress with the 'four stooges' dodd, franks, reed and pelosi in charge just this year "2008", period. They knew about Freddy and Fannie...they were solvent, remember how Barney and Maxine Watters reacted. Of course you don't, they were not republicans.
The fault lies with the democratic congress.
Oil prices have dropped, but with obama and no offshore drilling, see how the oil prices will rise. Obama is not for offshore drilling, but it appears that he just might be in the pockets of what he calls "Big Oil". You democrats are like trying to explain something to little children. The little children listen and learn more.

The Republicans (especially Bush) rode into Washington as white-hatted moralists, and then did nothing but loot the treasury. Of course they got booted out. That does not mean people like what the Big-O wants to do. It just means they were given a choice of poisons, and chose what appeared to be the less toxic.

Actually, I think Obama's campaign borrowed more from Karl Marx than from Karl Rove. Logos, class and race warfare, platitudes and attitudes...

Rove's tactics have come to mean dirty campaign tricks. But Rove also revolutionize how to target voters and mobilize volunteers to get out the vote. In that sense, yes, Obama did win the election using Rove's tactics. And that's nothing to be ashamed about!

If that is all he said and taken on surface value, then yes, I do, Jake.

You'd have to explain in more detail why you don't to have a conversation.

Rove sounds like a literate Palin.

" Republicans don't even have a single token black member of Congress to deflect such a simple strategy."

That's because everytime Republicans put up a black conservative to run, you people throw oreos at them and call them race traitors. See Michael Steele.