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Minnesota Secy of State Not Happy with 'Premature' Franken Claim
December 31, 2008 3:16 PM
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As I mentioned a little while ago, in our ABC News Shufflle Podcast interview, Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie didn't quite care for Democratic Senate candidate Al Franken's comment that "it looks like we’re on track to win. ... Now, there’s more to do before it’s over -- there are still some Minnesotans whose voices haven’t been heard yet because their absentee ballots were improperly rejected. But when those votes are counted and the recount is complete, I believe we will have won this election.”
Said Ritchie, after I read him Franken's statement and asked him if it was premature, "No human being can predict the future or what's going to happen with the one thousand three hundred some still unopened wrongly rejected absentee ballots so I would say yes, it's premature but from the first night our office has said clearly there is no current person ahead or behind, there is no way to predict who will win or lose, only when the final ballot is done can you say this."
"But that hasn't stopped the campaigns from making claims for fundraising and other purposes," Ritchie said. "So this claim is just another claim by the lawyers of the candidates and by the candidates themselves that cannot be substantiated, cannot be backed up by any facts. So it is premature and, you know, I've not been happy that the campaigns have continued to make these claims but there is really nothing I can do about it."
(We should point out that Coleman has prematurely declared victory a number of times as well. The morning after election night, after the unofficial canvass of counties, and after a canvassing board ruling.)
Ritchie and I discussed a number of issues relevant to the recount. Some items of note:
I read Mr. Ritchie part of an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal that described him as having been "endorsed by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now -- Acorn -- a group under investigation in several states for suspected voter registration chicanery," and noting that Ritchie's "election campaign in 2006 was funded in part by something called 'The Secretary of State Project.' This latter group, founded by MoveOn.org's former grass-roots director, exists solely to install far-left candidates as secretaries of state in swing states."
What did Ritchie -- who talked a lot about the State Canvassing Board being non-partisan -- think of such a description?
"I haven't seen it," he said, "I never respond to personal attacks or that kind of, you know, shenanigans in newspapers like that ... I think people are very proud of the way we do elections in Minnesota and that pride and that trust is reflected in the fact that we are always number 1 voting in the nation and we're 5 percentage points above the state that is number 2. People trust our elections in Minnesota because they're run on a fair and non partisan basis and because they trust that they turn out and vote."
Of a recent Miami Herald editorial that assured Floridians that Minnesota recount compared similarly with the Sunshine state's 2000 debacle, Ritchie was concise: Florida, he said, "didn't do a recount so there's really no discussion here. Florida aborted the recount they didn’t do a recount. That's a disaster for Floridians and too bad for the nation 'cause it created such a bad impression of local election and state election officials. Florida did not do a recount and so there's really nothing to compare to our system."
Having written a book about the Florida recount, I recalled how local officials suffered through all sorts of personal attacks during that state's recount.
How is Ritchie holding up?
"The thing that's been unfortunate has been the kind of abuse that staff and especially local election officials have had to suffer," he said. "And when some editorial in, say, a national newspaper that comes out and makes a partisan kind of attack or makes a claim then we might get up to thousand emails from people all over the country or they generate death threats which of course are alarming to everybody so folks here have just had to put the blinders on to the outside world, the death threats, the attacking partisan editorials and just say, 'Look, the people of Minnesota are who we serve, they have had a close election, we often have a close elections because we've got six political parties, we are gonna find out how did the people of Minnesota voted on Nov. 4 and we're gonna do that out in front of everybody so that everybody -- maybe they're gonna be disappointed but they're gonna say, "Yeah, I am disappointed but that’s how we as a state voted."'
Ritchie said that "people are tired, this week has been particularly hard because everyone's having to work through holidays and we had some big holidays making things complicated. I am personally very proud and pleased as to how everyone has been able to hold up and to ignore the attacks."
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In a state with the zaniest election history, it is suprising that Mark could be upset or suprised by anything.
Posted by: Omentum | Jan 2, 2009 10:13:17 AM
Mr. Tapper, that's a very cocky photo at the top of your blog. And although cockiness is a disease of reporters, still it might be best to soft-pedal that quality a little and replace the photo with one that expresses some other quality. Let's see, how about impersonal honest and integrity? Or maybe dedication, a selfless mission to defend the basic principles of America (can always look them up). Oh, better yet, compassion and fellow-feeling with every citizen, whether they agree with your political viewpoint or not. Well okay, maybe Christlike is too much to ask. But at least a photo that doesn't exhibit that assured set to your mouth, maybe just a little more gentle.
Posted by: Larry | Jan 2, 2009 8:41:49 AM
When Republicans lose, they are polite and professional about it. When Democrats lose, they keep cheating until the vote comes out in their favor.
Posted by: JD | Jan 2, 2009 8:34:03 AM
Anyone that believes that someone funded,bigtime, by Moveon.org is not cooking the books is crazy. How many democrats right now in the past 50days or so have had to resign for Americans to wake up and realize that the Democratic Party is not only corrupt ,for personal gain, but is also owned and operated by foreign entities? Mr. Secretary Florida had THREE RECOUNTS! Where have you been?? Dumb and dishonest.
Posted by: mauren | Jan 2, 2009 8:31:46 AM
Having known some people who count votes, and having heard some of their stories and candid admissions, I have no faith at all in recounts. Whoever can bring the most pressure and influence can get the most votes, especially if the vote counters are in sympathy with the pressurizers. When an election margin is as close as this one, the only thing to do is deny both candidates the office and hold another election without them. But of course what will actually happen is that one of the candidates will steal enough votes to win and to survive any more recounts, and the people will be stuck with that lying, cheating stealing thief as their constitutional representative. Dear America, where have you gone, and how we miss you.
Posted by: Gary | Jan 2, 2009 8:29:15 AM
NOW THIS......IS HOW YOU "STEAL" AN ELECTION!!!
Posted by: commrat72 | Jan 2, 2009 8:26:44 AM
Mr Richie is a big time lefty who is manipulating the rigged election in favor of one of the most mean spirited democrats in history. This is what Minnesota gets for living in the stone age with their pencil and paper ballots and out in left field politics. it would have been faster to hold a run off election but in typical fashion, the people of Minnesota don't have a law requiring one if the election were that close...It's like they live in a third world country....
Posted by: Nobamanation | Jan 2, 2009 7:58:03 AM
An article like this one would has no credibility in light of the fact that Norm Coleman claimed himself a victor on election day!
Posted by: Mr D | Jan 2, 2009 6:50:25 AM
Just another example of the American 'Congress, the worst government money can buy'
Posted by: Jim Holmes | Jan 1, 2009 11:08:02 PM
Let's not get premature and hasty folks. When the ice goes out and the walleye fisherman go home, there's sure to be a few hundred more ballots show up.
Posted by: BillBrady | Jan 1, 2009 9:48:57 PM
Yo Skip, I'm an 18 month veteran with nine months in combat as a door-gunner back in the day. Why does service make one more or less qualified? It's a canard my friend.
FDR, Clinton, Wilson, Lincoln were all wartime presidents without any military service, as to LBJ "Johnson reported to General Douglas MacArthur in Australia. Johnson and two Army officers went to the 22nd Bomb Group base, which was assigned the high risk mission of bombing the Japanese airbase at Lae in New Guinea. A colonel took Johnson's original seat on one bomber, and it was shot down with no survivors. Reports vary on what happened to the B-26 Marauder carrying Johnson. Some accounts say it was also attacked by Japanese fighters but survived, while others, including other members of the flight crew, claim it turned back due to generator trouble before reaching the objective and before encountering enemy aircraft and never came under fire, which is supported by official flight records.[14] Other airplanes that continued to the target did come under fire near the target at about the same time that Johnson's plane was recorded as having landed back at the original airbase.[14] MacArthur awarded LBJ the Silver Star, the military's third-highest medal, although it is notable that no other members of the flight crew were awarded medals, and it is unclear what Johnson could have done in his role purely as an "observer" to deserve the medal, even if his aircraft had seen combat.
Johnson's biographer, Robert Caro, stated, "The most you can say about Lyndon Johnson and his Silver Star is that it is surely one of the most undeserved Silver Stars in history, because if you accept everything that he said, he was still in action for no more than 13 minutes and only as an observer. Men who flew many missions, brave men, never got a Silver Star."[14]" - source - Wikipedia.
So, mon ami, dismount your high horse please and calm yourself down. As we used to say, "Don't mean nothing."
Posted by: dablueshound | Jan 1, 2009 9:37:27 PM
Hey Stuart Smalley, you're a disgrace and a coward. Minnesota is worse off for your shenanigans, and so is the country. You disgust me.
Posted by: John Wayne | Jan 1, 2009 9:34:09 PM
Let them keep recounting until the next
election, and then choose 2 new candidates.
Posted by: Steve | Jan 1, 2009 9:24:18 PM
Must be a democrat, otherwise he would have stated he was a republican twelve times in this blog.
Posted by: Steve | Jan 1, 2009 8:33:51 PM
Why doesn't Coleman just print up some ballots with votes for him & cliam they were found, inadvertantly placed, in a back room at a polling place.....just like Franken did? Republicans are soooo stupid. Democrats are stealing this election, it is very obvious.
Posted by: Jodi | Jan 1, 2009 8:25:01 PM
The American government will remain the people's until the day congress realizes it can bribe the people with the people's money.
Bailouts and record high fundraising, w00t.
Posted by: Heh | Jan 1, 2009 7:39:06 PM
Franken is a comedian, Congress is a Joke. Should work out just right.
Posted by: Reba | Jan 1, 2009 7:31:12 PM
All throughout this election cycle, all we heard was about how the GOP needed to become more moderate if it wanted to be viable and attract more moderates & independents.
Now we ran the king of the moderates (aka king of the RINOs) as our Presidential candidate against a very FAR left Democratand got trounced.
And now we have Norm Coleman, who almost no one would describe as a conservative - in fact he's one of the most "moderate" Senators in congress. So here he is running against a guy that's about as far left as it gets and he's not able to soundly defeat him.
There's 2 examples of the GOP running "moderates" against extreme left-wing candidates and not being successful.
Seems to me that if the GOP is ever going to regain control, it darn well better start running some real conservatives and get away from these wishy washy moderate!
Posted by: Dan In SC | Jan 1, 2009 6:23:06 PM
It must be really sad, for the GOP! Many Americans have decided that even comedians can run this country better than the corporate stooges that the GOP has offered.
Posted by: Skip | Jan 1, 2009 6:03:56 PM
I'm a Minnesotan and a independent voter, I am truly sadden at this one fact - In a recent independent study, Minnesota opinion shows that close to 40% of the people who voted for Al Franken - did not even know where he stands on the issues involving our government. Voters need to get involved! Do we really want a comedians running this country?
Posted by: Robin | Jan 1, 2009 5:54:10 PM
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