Obama Announces Science and Tech Posts in Radio Address

This is scary.

Ted, you are wrong. Plain and simple. I'm amazed that this incredibly ignorant argument is still going. Maybe I shouldn't be.

Arguably the point is contestable, since "natural born" citizen is never actually defined anywhere in the Constitution but the precedent set since 1790 that "natural born" means those who have a parent who is a US citizen (hence why both McCain and Obama were eligible for President). Therefore it doesn't matter whether you are born in Panama, Kenya, Outer Mongolia or on the Moon, as long as one of your parents are US citizens, so are you.

You could contest that you think "natural born" means born in the US but I'm afraid you don't have any legal or constitutional backing for such an argument.

Don't allow simple things like facts to change your mind though. ;)

ok, ted, you win.
I'll be watching for you and your group in january, to prove obama not citizen, or even human.i suppose you will be crashing the inaguration, or throwing eggs or tomatoes.
and maybe by some miracle, according to you, who will become president of the usa?

please tell me, who will be president, if not obama?

While the "October Surprise" credit crisis netted Obama the general election, a "January Surprise" constitutional crisis will NOT net Obama the Presidency!

"help the country back on its feet...after knocked on its back by...Bush"????

Please, the country's economy has tanked since the Dems took back Congress -- and the Dems (to help elect Obama) were driving down the economy, and now want it driven to the point where they can implement their socialist utopia to 'save' America.

obama, and science, will be whatever it will be. we will find out how history jusders our 43rd president and his actions on science.
no need to keep beating bush.

we gave george w bush a chance,

obama will be POTUS,

I will work with the crowd to help him rebuild this country.

you continue to work on what you are working on.

after bush' first debate with gore, i saw what a dunce he was.
and many elected him potus anyway.

i'll take my chances with obama.
and help this country back up on it' feet, after it has been knocked on it's back by George "Natural Born" Bush

gloomboom:-- if we were even to, as you say "give the guy a chance" on 1/20/09, we would have a full blown Constitutional Crisis on our hands, the future of the USA as a Constitutional Republic would be in jeopardy, we would face grave international and defense consequences and the likelihood of a Civil War would be very very real.

The UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION MUST BE PROTECTED AND DEFENDED BY ALL MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY AND ALL EMPLOYEES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNDER A PLEDGE THEY ALL TAKE AS A CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT!

You still want to "give the guy a chance"?

bush the usa et al:-- More specifically, see this -- it is a SLAM DUNK CASE, BHO is NOT an Article II "Natural Born Citizen":

Give the guy a chance. He's not even President yet. Good grief!

Well the hits keep coming. Obama is going with a full court press of climate alarmists to push some ill-advised agenda but Elvis has already left the building. The EU is abandoning their bold goals of carbon reduction by 2020, especially Germany. The Poznan conference was a flop. The carbon trading market has collapsed. Why? Because you can't force non-solutions to non-problems on people when all they're worried about are keeping their jobs and keeping their homes.

How are you feeling out there all you Obama voters in Ohio, West Virginia and Pennsylvania? These appointments sure smell like the death of the coal industry to me. Coal country without the coal business will look a lot like Michigan without the auto industry. How's Michigan doing these days?

I love all the talk here of how liberals have cornered the market on science and enlightenment. What a gut-buster! I've worked in scientific fields my entire life and it's safe to say every workplace was and is dominated by conservative thinkers except for a brief stint at an Ivy League school (aka The People's Republic of One Way Thinking). If anyone would care to debate the merits of today's climate science or lack thereof I would be happy to do so.

I predict the climate change house of cards will come tumbling down when the Pentagon refuses to implement any sort of policy change based on IPCC, NASA GISS or NOAA findings. The Pentagon will balk until those organizations adhere to military standards in the areas of documentation, software development, testing, verification and general transparency. Today, of course, those organizations fall woefully short.

bush the use:--

The work is already done. IT IS AN AIRTIGHT CASE!!! See Donofrio/Wrotnowski cases before SCOTUS (Supreme Court has only denied Stays of College of Electors voting, not the merits of the cases which are still there) --

In fact, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY A CREDIBLE COUNTER-LEGAL ARGUMENT CAN BE PRESENTED. The Supreme Court knows this.

wm h. calvin,
what you are asking for would require, work, research,etc, they don't have time for that.
and ted:
maybe this citizen-nbc will take about four years, or there will i guess, people picketing for four year about this, while obama as POTUS and the rest of us get on with rebuilding this country.
I suppose bush is a natural born citizen, actually, a real product of this country,the cream of the crop, self made grandfather, and father. all in politics, i guess you could say george w. bush, really is america.
but for me, I say " look what we got with this all american, natural born citizen gwb.
so the natural born citizen-citizen crowd will have four years to harp and scream, and picket about this,
the rest of us, encluding PEBO, have a country to help rebuild.
anytime you feel like coming off that natural born citizen picket line and helping us, we welcome you.
but i understand, some one has to protest what you are talking about, and some of us just want to get on with the rebuilding. good luck to you and your cause.

bush the usa:--

again, my friend, "CITIZEN" (as under the Constitution's 14th Amendment) is NOT the same as "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN" under the Constitution's Article II.

And it is absoultely impossible (hence, constitutionally NOT legal) for the Supreme Court to say otherwise!!!!!!

Welcome news but why such a tiny story? No background on the four. No mention of the climate science theme. No mention of the break this represents with the anti-science Bush history.

obama is a citizen, and more than qualified, and legal to be POTUS.

Let the people who say he is not, be quiet about it until they can PROVE he is not a citizen, and then we will deal with it.
but right now, we have an eight year crooked road we need to try and make staight again.
and obama has been voted POTUS to lead the way.
let us all do our part to help.

you know, strife and causing trouble can be exausting, let us all give ourselves some relief, and help out.

This is an excellent choice and I think Mr. O. is doing well! Keep it up!

bush the usa:-- You are avoiding the point, which is, Obama is NOT an Article II "Natural Born Citizen" under the United States Constitution, hence would be a usurper if he were to ascend to the Presidency.

Are we, or are we not, a Constitutional Republic?

ted,
i guess you were one of the people trying to spread the notion of if obama did not win, the black people would riot?

and now that he did win, I guess you are saying who? will be shedding whose blood?

if after bush, we did not have an uprising, we will not have anything to happen with PEBO

If 1/20/09 comes and goes with a usurper in the Whitehouse (that is, Obama is definitely NOT an Article II "natural born citizen" -- dad Kenyan/British citizen at BHO's birth --albeit he MAY BE a 14th Amendment "citizen") with usurper enablers in Congress and the Supreme Court … God help us because many of the people will — rightfully and under our Constitution and Declaration of Independence — endeavor through other means to take back the Government from what is nothing less than a non-constitutional coup d’etat.

SCOTUS now does have the power to forestall that grim yet inevitable scenario, otherwise the blood and possible loss of our Constitutional Republic is SQUARELY ON THEIR HEADS.