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Robert Gibbs' Toughest Moment of 2008

December 27, 2008 12:06 PM

I have the honor of substitute-anchoring on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Sunday, as you may know. One of our guests is incoming White House press secretary Robert Gibbs; we conducted the interview a few days ago and included in it some advice given by his predecessors in the job, Bush White House press secretaries Dana Perino and Scott McClellan and Clinton White House press secretary Joe Lockhart.

Gibbs had lots of interesting things to say about current events as well as the "daunting" job he will soon assume.

I also asked what he thought was his worst political moment of 2008. Here is that exchange:

GIBBS: Maybe the toughest point that I had was right after we'd clinched the nomination and the president-elect is going to meet with Sen. Clinton.  And I know that the then candidate Barack Obama is not going to be on our flight home to Chicago.  But, the press doesn't know that.  And I held in the car and I got on the plane and right when I got on the plane, we basically moved to taxi and about 15 seconds later, the press realized that the candidate wasn't on the plane.   And I knew that was going to be a long ride home for an hour and a half flight -- and that we were going to have a lot of explaining to do.  And what separated the cabinet staff -- most of the staff usually sits in -- where the press is, is the Secret Service.  I stopped there and told our detail leader that, "If I'm not back in 15 minutes, get the guns out and come get me out of there."

TAPPER:  Do you regret that decision?  Do you regret not telling the press that--

GIBBS:  We may have handled it differently.  I think we were in a very tough position either way.  And you know, even -- if you look back on it now, people were camped out in different places, expecting that the meeting was happening in different places.  I think it was hard at that point, probably, to bring those two together and to have a serious, private one-on-one conversation.  But I wish there was a way in which we could have done it a little bit better.  I don't, off the top of my head, know how we might have done that.  But I understand the role that each of the entities had to play.

TAPPER:  I think the problem that a lot of people in the media had was that there was almost a lie by omission. I don't want to use the word lie -- but it was not telling the truth by omission because they assumed he would be on the plane because he always was.

GIBBS:  Right.

TAPPER:  But, he wasn't.  There was nothing they could do about it.  All of a sudden, the media was flying off to Chicago.  It wasn't as forthright as you could have been.  And it doesn't stay secret.

GIBBS:  That's why most of the pictures in that event are with me holding my hands up like this, as if I'm the one that's being in a sense, held hostage.  But, you know again, we were -- it was a -- I understood the pitfalls of what [we] were undertaking.  The hardest part was, it was a decision that was made but I was the one that had to implement.

TAPPER:  But you didn't make that decision.

GIBBS:  I wasn't the final say on it, no. But I was comfortably sitting in the third or fourth row understanding that I had to walk in the back of that plane and talk about the decisions.

TAPPER:  This is where press secretaries sometimes get in a little bit of trouble -- which is, you didn't say anything that wasn't true, but there was kind of a narrative and an understanding that turned out not to be true.  And whether or not it was made by the campaign, you were held personally responsible for it.

GIBBS:  And look, I think that's what will happen in my next job.  You know, the press secretary has to represent the administration to the press.  And a lot of the advice that I've gotten from former press secretaries that -- all of them have, but they didn't say here was, you've got to keep -- you're there in meetings and in these rooms to report what happens to the press.  You have to be careful about how you weigh in with your own opinions in those decisions. Because you have to be seen as -- much like everybody has to be on board when you walk out of that room -- you have to be seen as an honest broker that can discuss why this decision was made and how it was made.  To explain it to a larger audience via the press.  That's a role that a press secretary has to play. Not that each of these press secretaries -- and I'm sure many that you interviewed and some that you didn't -- all are advisors to the president and have advice personally and politically for him.  You're in a different role and how you express that advice in a group setting or one-on-one to the president-elect can matter a lot.  So, that you're seen in that room as somebody who's a real honest broker.

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We'll have much more from Gibbs, as well as Sens. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, and Bob Corker, R-Tenn., plus a great roundtable with Kurt Andersen of PRI's Studio 360, CBN's David Brody, Slate's John Dickerson, and National Public Radio's Alison Stewart Sunday morning. Hope you tune in.

-- Jake

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Robert Gibbs has an BIG UM PROBLEM....he needs to go to toastmasters immediately. He is such a poor reflection on the new administration. He needs to UM be replaced now.

Posted by: Scott Pitts | Jan 26, 2009 2:17:41 PM

I wish George would get another substitute anchor when he's away. Jake Tapper is snide and condescending. He interrupts those he's interviewing and has none of the geniality that George does during the Roundtable.

Posted by: gotlucky | Dec 28, 2008 1:54:45 PM

jpt quotes Gibbs:
"If I'm not back in 15 minutes, get the guns out and come get me out of there."

The repellent Gibbs foreshadows the "Obama" organization's plan for their uh presidency ...

Posted by: Belle Starr | Dec 28, 2008 12:07:12 PM

I just finished watching the show.
GREAT job, Jake!

Posted by: Jan | Dec 28, 2008 9:53:04 AM

Is this a serious issue? YAWNNNNN!!!!!
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee.
Does anybody know what time the match between Arsenal and portsmouth is?

Posted by: jayboz | Dec 27, 2008 10:49:26 PM

Two wars, millions without homes, jobs, or health care, Israel kills hundreds of Palestinians, horrible terrorist bombing in Iraq- And the this media outlet is fixated on this bit of immature political minutiae! It's time for the adults to retake control.

Posted by: B. Bear | Dec 27, 2008 8:21:42 PM

Andrew Sullivan is pumped up about Obama ending don't ask don't tell and allowing all gays to serve openly in the military.

Sullivan is excited about Obama signing EDNA which will allow a trial lawyer to sue you if you don't hire a gay person.

Sullivan is thrilled Obama is going to sign a hate crimes law against gays from the pew.

Sullivan is pumped up about Obama ending defense of marraige act and allowing gay marraiges that happen in massachussetts to count around the country.

Sullivan loves the New Washington.

Posted by: Andrew | Dec 27, 2008 6:54:59 PM

If the media didn't stalk and hound the president-elect chasing stupid stories trying to scoop information that is going to eventually be released anyway, the campaign wouldn't have to be deceptive. The media force candidates and politicians to behave this way.

Posted by: Psychodrew | Dec 27, 2008 5:12:36 PM

Marlin Fitzwater (Reagan, then Bush sr's press sec,) had the very best rules of engagement with the press--don't ever lie; if all else fails, hide. Gibbs should know that especially on a slow news day, the WH press corps' favorite game is something I call "Stump the Flack" where they keep asking progressively more obscure questions to--stump the flack. Have fun Mr. Gibbs.

Posted by: anna perez | Dec 27, 2008 4:53:56 PM

Yawn... Inside baseball stuff, no one really cares.

Posted by: Ananda | Dec 27, 2008 2:55:51 PM

This might just be the scandal that brings down the Obama White House. This is a larger breach of trust than anything committed by the Bush administration, with far greater consequences.

Posted by: Mike | Dec 27, 2008 2:52:32 PM

what happened to Andrew Sullivan? He's always an interesting commentator.

Posted by: Kit | Dec 27, 2008 2:40:42 PM

I was so impressed how the press were cornered for the first time ever.

Posted by: Rita | Dec 27, 2008 12:47:07 PM

Since we're talking about what to expect from the Obama team based on the past, I'd like to state my hope that Jake attribute the sources of any anti-Obama stories he does, going forward.

The whole reason I started reading this blog was because of the Deval Patrick "plagiarism" story Jake ran during the primaries. It was clearly a story planted by the HIllary Clinton team, as the AP later reported, but Jake bragged about breaking the story right here at ABCnews. That showed me just how dirty political reporting can be (as bad as the music business in terms of fake or incorrect attribution in the credits.)

Then toward the end of the Obama vs. McCain contest, for several days in a row Jake alternately paraphrased and repeated Rick Davis's talking points about Obama's small donors. Again, without attribution.

One of the things I've enjoyed about Jake's absence over the last week or so is the professional, unbiased reporting of Sunlen Miller.

jake has impressed me at times, but disappointed me equally.

Criticism of Obama is absolutely necessary, but when it's done unprofessionally, with a jaundiced eye, it doesn't amount to much.

Let's hope for a better year for all of us in '09.

Posted by: Danny | Dec 27, 2008 12:39:57 PM

How rough is it? Just go to the back of the plane and say

"This is the way it is and if any of you dont like it, we'll throw out your resume".

Posted by: BertieW | Dec 27, 2008 12:25:31 PM

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