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Oh and Mike_C,

Your view of the world must be pretty limited, if you actually think almost the entire world doesn't hate Bush.

I wonder why everybody from Tokyo to Indonesia was celebrating on the streets when the news came that Obama would be 44.

(Yes, you're going to say that Obama wants to compromise US interests and benefit the world blah, blah. You can think that all you want even though it is not true, but hey, admit it, isn't it advantageous that the whole world doesn't hate the President and doesn't consider him to be a total buffoon?)

Hey Mike_C

The Iraqis are feeling better? Please start reading reports other then the propaganda from the Bush admin.

Don't make me laugh. I read the Three Trillion Dollar War which described the terrible conditions in Iraq and all the taxpayer's money wasted on contractors. Other newspapers and reports say the same. Iraqis outside of the green zone are now are lucky to have electricity for only a few hours a day- electricity used to be available under Saddam regularly. Some areas get no power at all. Many have no running water or access to clean food. Iraq had more cholera cases in one year then the whole of Asia combined. Saddam's long shadow no longer falls on them but many are without jobs and looting and violence is a possibility and the streets are no longer as safe. Any Iraqi you stop on the street has most likely lost somebody to the invasion and civil war.

About Clinton missing Osama, hey, your idol Bush hasn't exactly caught him yet, has he, eh? Why, he might have if he had continued allowing his soldiers to chase Osama down in Afghanistan where they were cornering him, but nooooo he had to pull them out for the Iraq "adventure". At least Clinton didn't invade the WRONG country and get over one million of their citizens killed. Sure, any military operations will result in civilians getting killed, but this was a stupid war and avoidable. Bush could have chosen to focus just on Afghanistan- where bin Laden really was. The terrorists were never in Iraq before the invasion.

Yeah, you think the way to scare off terrorists is to throw military weight around. I'm not so naive to think we can not deal with people who want to kill us harshly- sometimes only a bullet will do it. But I think it is just stupid to end up killing a lot more other people and making people who PREVIOUSLY not habour any anti-pathy towards us do so. Is the logic so difficult to understand? The terrorists attack us. We bomb their entire country and kill lots of their civilians. We give any jobs to private contractors so civilians are left jobless and can barely support themselves. Many civilians get angry and frustrated and join the terrorists. That, clearly is counter-productive.

It is an incredible fallacy to assume strength is measured in military weight. When Bush unveiled his plans to invade Iraq, I am sure that somewhere, instead of being cowed, bin Laden was laughing.

Hussein Obama will try to lead through the internet and his blackberry. He wants to be the "cool, hip" president. Unfortunately, he has never lead anything and it is already showing. Just consult with all of his advisors with "strong personalities." We had better hope another terrorist strike or bullet to his head does not materialize over the next 4 years, for he is grossly underqualified. If it does happen, as people are predicting, america will be in a much weaker position thanks to his liberal and out of touch ideas and will wish we had the Repubs and George Bush back.

Obama has made a wise move in his choices. He talked about a unity government and now he is making it so. Imagine, a president leading from the center and not pandering far right or left, or up or down. This is a remarkably good thing, people, whether you voted for him or not.

Grey Matter : The problem with your argument is that it amounts to "don't attack the people trying to kill you or they'll try to kill you."

You also seem to forget that the 9-11 attacks were planned during Clinton's terms in office. And were directly related to the apathy he showed towards national defense. Weakness attracts far more criminals than hate ever will, Clinton was weak so they acted. The scary part is Obama makes Clinton look like Dirty Harry.

I'll try to make it as simple for you to understand. Sure, anti-American sentiment has always existed, but Bush certainly bred more of it in the Middle-East with the Iraq fiasco and the Guantanamo Bay- which made a mockery of our claim to be a beacon for human rights (before you shout that all terrorists deserved to be treated that way, you should know that many got arrested indiscriminately). I personally would be pretty angry with some country that dropped a bomb on my brothers' wedding and killed everyone. People around the world sure liked America more when it was under Clinton, despite his moral lapses personally.

Grey,

You libbies want everyone to "get over it"...try practicing what you preach! Bush is not the root of all the problems in the world. As far as
hitting the wrong target, CLinton missed Bin Laden on more than occassion....remember the Asprin Factory?

As far as innocents getting killed, WHY DO YOU THINK THESE TERRORISTS EMBED THEMSELVES NEAR THE INNOCENTS????

Yuo get upset at name calling....well I'm sorry when liberals only want to a view the entire world thru a one-way mirror and demonstrate on a daily basis just how foolish they are, if I point it out!

LOL....oh yes...every single person on the planet hates Bush. Strange, right now, I pretty sure MOST Iraqis are sure feeling better about their future NOW than before 2003! You may disagree about getting into Iraq, but the future there is a hell of a lot better than if we had never gone in.

Also factor this into your limited view of the world. It seems now some of these terrorists are showing up in Somalia, If we had not gone to Iraq, you can better your last Obama '08 pin that these guys would be gathering in Iraq if Saddam were still in power there today!

But wait, Im sure that when the O takes over, all our intelligence gathering will be flawless and the military will be able to take action with out a single casuality. Hail...Hail...

Mike C,

Wow! Are you unable not to resort to name-calling? Are you one of the 20% who make up Bush's Watergate level-ratings?

I'll try to make it as simple for you to understand. Sure, anti-American sentiment has always existed, but Bush certainly bred more of it in the Middle-East with the Iraq fiasco and the Guantanamo Bay- which made a mockery of our claim to be a beacon for human rights (before you shout that all terrorists deserved to be treated that way, you should know that many got arrested indiscriminately). I personally would be pretty angry with some country that dropped a bomb on my brothers' wedding and killed everyone. People around the world sure liked America more when it was under Clinton, despite his moral lapses personally.

Sure, not everything is Bush's fault, but alot heck is, and it's a stretch to say Bush has kept us safe. He certainly hasn't made people around the world have less reasons to target Americans.

Bush, still, is someone I have distaste for, trashing the wilderness before he has to leave, introducing midnight regulations that allow mining companies to dump waste into streams, making it harder to prevent workers from being over-exposed to dangerous chemicals and so on.

I and about six billion other people will be mighty glad to see 43 get lost on January 20th 2009 to make way for 44.

This statement from O makes me wonder if he really knows what he is talking about...has he ran anything in his life!

"I assembled this team because I'm a strong believer in strong personalities and strong opinions," Mr. Obama said. "I think that's how the best decisions are made.

"strong personalities", what is that? what does he mean by that? It's seems has no clue and he is hoping the "strong personalities" will argue in front of him and then he can form some idea!

God help us!

The President will set the policy, not his secretaries.

And Obama isn't some clown like Bush who left things to Cheney and his thugs while he romped off the play golf/ go on vacation back at his ranch/ Camp David.

To all those people who say Bush kept us safe, try telling that to the Americans caught in the Mumbai blast. Or the US Embassy blast. The list goes on. This anti-American sentiment Bush bred because of the Iraq war fiasco is one factor behind all these attacks.

Sure, we may not have had another attack on home soil, but Bush sure as heck made the whole world really hate us.

This was one serious piece of reporting.

I can't believe I voted for this guy! It's Clintons 3rd term, more of the same. Look at all the Clintonites and Washington insiders this guy is appointing. Is Obama unsure of himself? Sure looking that way.

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In researching those appointed by Obama thus far, he seems to have some very experienced, intelligent, knowledgeable people on board to advise him. I'm glad he says he is willing to listen to and participate in serious discussion prior to making decisions. I'd love to see him appoint Mitt Romney as one of his economic advisers. His record for pulling deficit laden states and organizations from the red to the black speaks for itself. I'd love to see his expertise used.

Of course Bush bashing is now officially over and Mike is completely right.

Check out Madeline Albright's Memo to the President Elect where she says that the President and the S of S get a daily briefing memo with scary things on it quite regularly, now its liquids on planes and now gunman hitting hotels.

Now Consider the date of the memo 8/6/01 - the 19 terrorists were in the country and completed training and planning. What would have been the action taken if you were there buddy?
Under then standing laws with no Patriot Act override of bureaucracy, FISA intelligence gathering rules dating from before the internet, cellphones or even fully digital phone exchanges. With Gorelick's DOJ "wall" between FBI spying and prosecution, let alone rivalry with CIA and NSA or even Customs and Immigration, Mr. Z Moussaoi (sp) was detained but his computer, with as it turned out operational if outdated details was not searched. Suspicions on Arabs taking flight training were "bubbling up" the chain of command but no cross check with CIA bad list or Immigration. That's just the way it was, but NO MORE

Mike_C
re: ' This country is STILL attack free since 9/11. "

too bad 'W' & Condi didn't take that intelligence briefing that said 'Bin Laden wants to attack the U.S. with airplanes' more seriously at the time..

Still bashing Bush huh ?...seems like Bush and his administration had intel that these attacks were going to happen. They told India who stepped up thier security measures, only to relax them shortly after.

Point - With all your babbling on & on about how Bush has meesed everything up since the big bang, This country is STILL attack free since 9/11. Maybe you should ask the people in India right now if these measures are worth keeping.

olin tucker sounds like lavampire.
with all of the horoscope stuff.

but true,
no one wants to bush to be history more than bush.

ditto

dewde

Pluto is entering Capricorn; and leaving Saggutatius. The last time this happened was 284 years ago. History, when combined with a knowledge of the parallel universe reveals what to expect, because history of a recording of actions under certain influences. The point is that the Pluto in Capricorn triggers revolutions, which we need to prepare for. Bush and Clinton opperated under the expansive Saggutarius influences; those daus are gone, an era simular to the French and American Revolution are again upon us for the next 16 years. Strauss and Howe (1997) present a scientific explanation -- which is really a validation of what the ancients related by the measurement of magnetic changes.
A fool will lose tomorrow trying to hold on to yesterday. Bush is history --we would be well advised to forget him and plan for the future.

This is really starting to get frightening. Domestic troops, laws limiting private gun ownership and ammunition sales, the government takeover of industry and banking, and the collapse of an independent press.

All the people blogging and screaming about Bush's attack on our freedoms *voted* for THIS.