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Cheney Assails Obama Decision to Close Gitmo; Expresses Concern That Democrats About to Take Over Don't Realize World Has Changed
January 13, 2009 11:23 AM
In a radio interview with Bill Bennett this morning, Vice President Dick Cheney said that President-elect Barack Obama's pending executive order to shut down the Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay is a "bad decision."
"I used to have the impression this is a classic case where they campaigned so hard against Guantanamo that now they don't have any choice but to try to close it," the vice president said of the Obama team. "But that's too bad; they've got a lot of tough questions to answer first.
"Guantanamo is sort of a symbol, I guess, to the left in this country and maybe to some of our critics overseas," the vice president said. "But the fact is it's a very well-run facility. The Red Cross is down there all the time checking on it; reporters are free to go down, members of Congress and so forth, to look at it and see what kind of facility it is. And the fact is, it's first-rate."
Mr. Cheney said too many people have already been freed from Guantanamo.
People forget "we've got a couple hundred very bad actors down there," said the vice president. "We've been through, several times, a scrub of the population in Guantanamo. And a good many more have been returned than we still hold, have been returned to their home countries. Now, out of that group, some number has, in fact, gone back onto the battlefield against us." He said the Bush administration has "erred a bit on the side" of "letting the wrong people go on a few occasions."
Those left in the facility, he said, are "the hardcore."
"These are al Qaeda members," Mr. Cheney said. "These are people that we captured on the battlefield. These are folks whose main objective in life is to kill Americans." Cheney said the remaining detainees "are unlawful combatants, terrorists, and by definition, their objective is to achieve their political goals by killing as many civilians as possible. They don't abide by the laws of war."
Mr. Cheney noted that "there's never yet been a congressman come forward and volunteer to take 250 al Qaeda members in his district ... So then the question is, where are you going to put them? And you've got to sort that all out before you close Guantanamo."
At a different point in the interview, Mr. Cheney said there "are a lot of people who did good work and were honorable civil servants and public servants during the Clinton administration coming back in. One of the things I worry about, though, is they'll assume they can pick up right where they left off. And the fact is the world has changed in major ways since January of '01 when we took over. And that break in service of some eight years, I think, they will find has been a period of time when the threat to the nation has changed in fairly dramatic ways."
- jpt
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Clinton (Democrat) had every chance to get Bin Laden, but HE didn't. So now a lot of people are wanting to point their finger at Bush and Cheney. Wake up and smell the roses. Obama is the evil one here!!!!!!!! You want Gitmo closed, then you house these terrorists! Obama has enough rooms as does Oprah; we'll just send them there!Wait and see. We are going to have more attacks on us now than ever before because of who some voters voted for. I'm glad that I didn't vote for him.
Posted by: Kimberly | Feb 5, 2009 5:02:57 PM
Why does Cheney worry about what Pres. Obama is doing with Gitmo, when the Bush Admin. released over 60 prisoners from there already? Some of which went right back to their terrorist ways. Was the people of this nation made aware of the release of these prisoners when each one was sent back to be in the public?
Posted by: Devan | Feb 5, 2009 3:17:36 PM
Cheney STILL thinks we will buy his fear-mongering...He doesn't get it...There were no flowers at the feet of our military when they marched in to Baghdad, there is no connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda (there is more links between HE and Saddam and illegal weaponry than Al Qaeda and Saddam) and GITMO did nothing but create more hatred of the US in the world...Time for him to goose-step himself into prison for the war crimes he committed in OUR NAME
Posted by: Cosmic Surfer | Feb 4, 2009 9:31:39 PM
WASHINGTON -- A federal judge has ordered the military to release a Guantanamo Bay detainee who was arrested in Pakistan when he was 14.
Mohamed el-Gharani was one of the first people to be sent to the U.S. military prison in Cuba in 2002, where he has been held ever since.
U.S. District Judge Richard Leon ruled on Wednesday that el-Gharani, who is also known as Yousuf and is now 21, is not an enemy combatant and must be released.
El-Gharani's lawyer says he was accused of being a member of al-Qaida in 1998, when he would have been 11 years old.
El-Gharani was arrested at a mosque in Pakistan by police when he was 14. He was then turned over to U.S. forces.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 14, 2009 4:22:14 PM
"When you hunt for a bear, you have to be ready to catch a bear"
Is this right from Cheney's handbook of hunting safety tips?
Others might include: "Don't get popped and shoot your buddy in the face accidentally."
Posted by: Skip | Jan 14, 2009 3:23:26 PM
Perhaps they'll release the 110 really, really bad guys into Nancy Pelosi's custody.
This is going to be fun to watch.
When you hunt for a bear, you have to be ready to catch a bear.
Posted by: drjohn | Jan 14, 2009 1:29:52 PM
ajax---
"1. Let them go?
2. Shoot them on the spot?
3. Invite them to join our side?"
POW camps. not rocket science. Guantanamo Bay is not a POW camp. just set up a POW camp in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Paul | Jan 14, 2009 11:19:57 AM
From what I've read in major news stories, too many innocents have been incarcerated at Gitmo and in Iraq. Firstly, it would seem we can't be the good guys if we are going to go against the Geneva Convention. And at the end of the day, the only way to win over the people is to be the good guys. Without the people's support wars can go on and on,... just ask the Russians about Chechnya.
Secondly, as in Huh's comment at 11:40, we need to step back and review why the Palestinian's suffering is continuing for decades. 'You know the blockade of Gaza, ongoing settlement expansion, increasing number of checkpoints in the occupied territories, etc.' If any injustice is going on there, it will just fuel the anti-Israeli sentiment which feeds the violence. Dealing with the poverty in Palestine can be the much of the answer to end the violence there. Poor and disenfranchised people that feel they have nothing to lose are breeding grounds for terrorists.
Cheney's attitude of 'it's us against them,' actually made many countries look at us negatively for the first time. His brand of foreign policy should be shelved permanently.
Posted by: Lydia | Jan 14, 2009 11:11:13 AM
Since Cheney feels Gitmo is a first rate kind of facility to stay in, maybe he should have a vacation or retire there.
Posted by: kat | Jan 14, 2009 12:03:45 AM
What buffoons the Cheneys and Bushes are. Cheney has a big fat mouth that he can't control. Maybe when he leaves office next week and still makes idiot comments, no one will listen to him. Like no one pays attention to Rove either now that he's out. Don't they realize how they look like fools to honest, thinking, decent Americans. Ugh!
Posted by: buzziea | Jan 13, 2009 8:26:23 PM
If the prisoners are guilty of something, send them to a fair trial, not some bogus, top secret military kangaroo court. Cheney et al don't want to take the chance that many of their bogus charges will be seen for what they are.
The Bush admin. believes that they can do ANYTHING under the excuse that we might be under a threat. I, for one, am not willing to surrender the Constitution that way. I don't want to become what thugs like Bush and Cheney would make us into.
Posted by: hjp | Jan 13, 2009 7:16:10 PM
"A personal note to Ryan C. Thanks for your capable and balanced comments here."
I thank you for the compliment though I think you erred by calling me balanced if referring to political bias.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 13, 2009 5:50:10 PM
"those are all mainstream thoughts for you wacky Dems."
ROFLMAO.
Sure Foxnews and other right wingers likes to portray such as mainstream liberal or Democratic opinion.
I am guessing that is to draw attention away from the free republics behind the curtain.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 13, 2009 5:48:51 PM
""Yeah, all those things came from 'progressives' before they got on to the current Crystal Pepsi kick."
Which had to do with this discussion how? "
Because you said 'who are you going to believe'. Progressive believe all sorts of preposterous, irrational things. In 2004/2005 there were months of intellectual gymnastics about trying to prove that the morning exit polls were right and Kerry couldnt have lost Ohio by 120,000 votes. Bush is declaring martial law, Palin didnt really have he baby, Bush planned Katrina- those are all mainstream thoughts for you wacky Dems.
If you plan on keeping these guys locked up then there is no reason to close Gitmo. If you are afraid that they will be released on legal technicalities, which is the way Barry O framed things yesterday, then you dont let them out.
Posted by: BertieW | Jan 13, 2009 5:14:21 PM
I don't know what the Obama team will do with the Guantanamo inmates, but I suspect they do, that they have thought it out very well, and that their solution to the problem will be an effective one.
My own speculative response to "who would take the inmates" is that the Representative and the voters in SE Colorado, E. of Pueblo, would have no fear about their ability to handle (maintain, staff, live with, etc.) a facility for these prisoners. There is already one, and perhaps two such facilities in that area. Though the facility(s) may not have spare capacity available, the folks in that area seem well capable of dealing with them, and might well be willing to take another one.
A personal note to Ryan C. Thanks for your capable and balanced comments here. Too often I see comment strings captured by nonsense from the right, and sometimes from the left. The contribution you make to sense and reason here is important and I want to acknowledge it.
Posted by: Jim Pivonka | Jan 13, 2009 5:09:51 PM
"History will judge the Bush administration very harshly. Cheney will go down as one of the most evil people ever to be in public service."
Who would have thought the actions of the Bush administration would improve the perception of the Nixon administration in comparison.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 13, 2009 4:47:32 PM
History will judge the Bush administration very harshly. Cheney will go down as one of the most evil people ever to be in public service.
Posted by: William J. LePetomane | Jan 13, 2009 4:43:57 PM
"I like the part where Cheney enlightens us to the fact that the world is a much more dangerous place since his administration took over."
Nice pickup.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 13, 2009 4:35:37 PM
"Yeah, all those things came from 'progressives' before they got on to the current Crystal Pepsi kick."
Which had to do with this discussion how?
Oh yeah, you were getting humiliated so you changed the subject to a progressive bogeyman.
"These rights activists are the ones who post their expert analysis of planes crashing into the Pentagon to prove it never happened"
The ACLU and Amnesty were not part of the 9/11 tinfoil hat brigade.
Not sure where that came from expect for your desperation to change the subject.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 13, 2009 4:34:26 PM
I like the part where Cheney enlightens us to the fact that the world is a much more dangerous place since his administration took over.
Posted by: Skip | Jan 13, 2009 4:28:08 PM
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