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Obama Calls Wall Street Bonuses 'Shameful' and the 'Height of Irresponsibility' -- But Unclear How Stern He Was With CEO's During Visit Earlier This Week
January 29, 2009 4:10 PM
President Obama blasted Wall Street CEOs Thursday afternoon, calling it "shameful" that they had given themselves billions of dollars bonuses during a year when the financial sector had to beg for billions in taxpayer dollars or risk crashing.
Referring to a story in the New York Times today indicating that in 2008 Wall Street executives paid themselves $18.4 billion in bonuses -- the sixth largest such raking in recorded history, according to the New York State Comptroller's office, despite the financial sector's abysmal year -- the president, sitting at an Oval Office meeting with Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and Vice President Joe Biden, did not hold back.
"When I saw an article today indicating that Wall Street bankers had given themselves $20 billion worth of bonuses -- the same amount of bonuses as they gave themselves in 2004 -- at a time when most of these institutions were teetering on collapse and they are asking for taxpayers to help sustain them, and when taxpayers find themselves in the difficult position that, if they don't provide help, that the entire system could come down on top of our heads," the president said, "that is the height of irresponsibility. It is shameful."
"There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses. Now is not that time. And that's a message that I intend to send directly to them, I expect Secretary Geithner to send to them," Obama said sternly.
"Secretary Geithner already had to pull back one institution that had gone forward with a multimillion-dollar jet plane purchase at the same time as they're receiving TARP money," Obama said, referring to Citigroup's plans for a $50 million 12-seat luxury jet despite having received $45 billion in Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) funds to stabilize the financial sector. "We shouldn't have to do that, because they should know better. And we will continue to send that message loud and clear."
The president said he intends to talk to Wall Street executives in the coming days.
"What we're going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility," he said.
Additionally White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs at his briefing announced that the president would address executive bonuses.
"It was the sixth-largest year of bonuses, and I don't think anybody that's opened their 401(k) statement has found out that this was the sixth best year for Wall Street," Gibbs said. "He'll address that in some more rage ... I will give you the one-word answer that he gave us this morning: outrageous."
Gibbs recalled that the president spoke during his inaugural of "an ethic of responsibility that we needed to see reinstituted in certain aspects of our country, particularly in our financial institutions. Whether it's government or the financial system, we're not going to be able to do what is needed to be done to stabilize our financial system if the American people read about this type of outrageous behavior."
Referring to the Citigroup corporate jet, Gibbs said, "I think the outrage on the Hill, and some phone calls, and some outrage here probably stopped that," adding that the president's economic team -- Geithner, National Economic Council director Larry Summers, and Council of Economic Advisers chair Christina Romer -- are looking into what measures could be taken.
But it wasn't clear how much the President delivered this message to the CEOs who came to the White House yesterday to support his stimulus package -- CEOs who in many cases are laying off thousands of workers while raking in millions of dollars in compensation.
"The two gentlemen who introduced him yesterday, their combined five-year compensation package is $150 million," ABC News asked Gibbs, referring to Sam Palmisano, Chairman, CEO and President of IBM (five-year compensation package, according to Forbes, $86.12 million) and David M. Cote, Chairman and CEO of Honeywell (five-year compensation package: $60.23 million). "Did he turn to them and say, 'You guys are cutting jobs, and yet you're making $150 million?'"
Said Gibbs: "The president talked about responsibility with them yesterday. The president doesn't meet with CEOs where he doesn't talk about responsibility. They specifically talked about the jet purchase. Again, I think the president has been very clear on the notion that what has to be done will not be able to be done unless the American people have confidence, not just in the decisions that government is now forced to make to address these crises, but more importantly that they don't see some of these actors behaving differently."
On another note, ABC News noted that in the Troubled Asset Recovery Program legislation to stabilize the financial sector in October, it was clear the steps that lawmakers were taking to prevent taxpayer dollars from going to executive compensation were minuscule at best, with those preventing from stricter curbs being Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., the chairmen of the Senate Banking Committee and the House Financial Services Committee, because they thought whatever limits they put into place Wall Street would find a way around the law. And yet President Obama supported the legislation.
Responded Gibbs: "President Obama, or mere Senator Obama, and many others did in order to get the money we needed to get our financial system going again. I think it is fair that this president believes that the results of that first set of money have failed to live up to the expectation that all of the American people have for it. That's why this administration and this economic team are taking the time to evaluate how we move forward. And, again, the principles that we outlined for the Senate before they approved a second batch of money to be used by this administration included reining in executive compensation and ensuring that excessive bonuses aren't part of that. Again, part of the meeting that you'll see the beginning of today is a continued discussion on moving forward and making some of those decisions as it relates to that next set of money.
"But understand ... the president shares the American people's outrage on this," Gibbs continued. "There are a lot of words that you can conjure up to describe that story. I think 'outrageous' was just the one that I can bring to you here today."
-- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
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Shameful? Height of Irresponsibility?
How can Robert Gibbs stand before the American people and push a stimulus that everyone knows will cripple this Nation for generations on one hand, and talk 'outrage' at Wall Street on the other?
The hypocrisy continues to compound -- exponentially!
Posted by: Citizen_Alerted | Feb 3, 2009 9:41:20 PM
The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget
Posted by: Abel Tsegga | Feb 3, 2009 8:07:00 PM
the only solace is that "A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED"
we can only hope!!!
Posted by: M.D.Baker | Feb 3, 2009 7:41:12 PM
President Obama;
Good on you! and the time has come for CEO's to realise that companies and institutions need to show some form of responsibility if they want to practice and sustain economic, social and environmental accountabilities. CEO should not just preach cost cutting while they are irresponsible themselves and have "no shame" to pay themselves handsomely especially in times where the world tends to face financial crisis. Instead what CEO's should be doing is helping the President to manage the financial crisis by contributing financial help to solve what their country is facing! Obama stating
"What we're going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility," he said is correct and I strongly support this so should responsible citizens too!
Posted by: Vanaja K | Jan 31, 2009 5:10:10 PM
Why do people on Wall Street need "over the top" bonus? What would happen to the billions in bonus's if not given to those over paid Wall street types? Would it be filtered into the economy or what? How can one segment of society be soooooo rich and yet a policeman, firefighter, nurse, teacher, etc have to fight for for their wages that barely pay their bills?
Posted by: Deborah | Jan 31, 2009 5:08:44 PM
Democrat Franklin Raines ran Fannie Mae and collected $50 million.
Democrat Jamie Gorelick worked for Fannie Mae and took home $26 million.
Democrat Jim Johnson hauled in millions from his Fannie Mae CEO job. From Wikipedia: "A 2006 OFHEO report found that Fannie Mae had substantially under-reported Johnson's compensation. Originally reported as $6-7 million, Johnson actually received approximately $21 million."
Notice a pattern here?
All contributed to the cooking of Fannie Mae's books. All were protected by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. They were all complicit in creating the subprime lending disaster, which kicked off the credit crisis.
If Obama were really "outraged" about corruption, he'd start with righting the wrongs at Fannie Mae. But he won't because the corruption was caused by his own cronies (and even advisors in the case of Raines). So he misdirects the public and moves on to Wall Street. And the mainstream media goes along with it.
Posted by: Tony D | Jan 31, 2009 2:44:09 PM
These CEOs make me sick. Any company who took part in receiving any money from the stimulus package shouldn't be allowed to buy "toys" and/or give/recieve massive bonuses. They took part in a socialist program, therefore the government should have some say what is going on inside their companies. I hate the fact that I am a recent college graduate busting my butt to find a job and trying to makes ends meet, yet our tax dollars are allowing these men to give themselves these huge bonuses. Not ok.
Posted by: what's wrong with society? | Jan 31, 2009 2:07:33 PM
I'll bet you dollars to donuts Obama made that statement AFTER he got his bonus!
Posted by: Machod | Jan 31, 2009 8:59:34 AM
Anybody know why ABC, CBS, and NBC aren't fully covering the stimulus issues?? I haven't heard any of them mention the "$150M on honey bee insurance" or the "$20M on Fish Barriers" etc. (I'm not kidding about those - they really are included in the "pork-ulus package"!) Anyone been seeing this on TV???
Posted by: Justanotherpeon | Jan 30, 2009 7:13:06 PM
Spazzy3...you're RIGHT! I bet if enough of us SCREAMED at our leaders and demanded that they fire Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and every other elected official who allowed this, then the CEOs of those companies would act muuuuch differently.... Heck, they might even pay some of it back. (hey, I can hope, right?) ;-)
Posted by: Justanotherpeon | Jan 30, 2009 7:08:25 PM
brighteyes...just how much $$$ do you think you're going to get in stimulus??
Many of us need jobs to pay our mortgages ... not a silly "drop-in-the-bucket" stimulus check. And...if I did get a check, I'd have to use it to pay my utilities or buy food. That doesn't stimulate anything.
If it's just cash you're after, then maybe Obamer should just divide the $1.3 trillion by the number of LEGAL Americans and everyone gets that amount. Probably $17K each....
Posted by: Justanotherpeon | Jan 30, 2009 7:05:02 PM
These CEO's/executives need to be taken to the woodshed! We need to take away all of their "toys" and priveleges plus jail time and pay back what they have stolen from the American people. These jerks will just keep on spending the money as long as it is there and being fed to them.
Posted by: Spazzy3 | Jan 30, 2009 6:49:51 PM
I think you're spot on Tina!!!
Posted by: Justanotherpeon | Jan 30, 2009 6:36:11 PM
I wonder if Obama will hold Barney Frank and Chris Dodd accountable for their negligence and incompetence resulting from the banking collapse? They're still getting paid and have jobs. Hmmm... I smell a double standard here...
Posted by: Justanotherpeon | Jan 30, 2009 6:35:06 PM
"I have a friend who is reading "Dreams of My Father". Her impression is that for the first time in our history, we have a president who actually hates his country."
Right wingers love this country like an abusive husband "loves" his wife.
Sure there's real emotion there but the way its expressed is horrifying.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 30, 2009 5:31:32 PM
I have a suggestion that would help the economy. Look at the bonus records for the CEOs of the failing businesses. They can keep the bonuses for the years their company was actually in the black with no layoffs. The rest of their bonuses must be given back to the company and used to hire back the employees that have lost jobs. There we go.
And while we're at it - how about Congress takes a paycut?? They get paid from taxes - which we pay. When a business can't afford it -pay cuts happen - and taxpayers are definitely unable to afford it right now! I'm thinking that would be a hefty chunk of money to put toward unemployment benefits and helping people get back to work. Sooner or later they will have to realize that unemployed taxpayers mean no money coming in - so where are these billions coming from??
As for the mortgage industry - just reset the mortgage interest rates back to what they were when these people got the mortgage and could afford the payments. It's not really fair to those of us who were smart enough to make sure we could PAY for the house before we bought it - but at least if you get the payments back down - they'll be paying for the house and keeping it - and help our property values - instead of foreclosures and abandoning the homes. Yes, they should've realized that the rates would eventually go up - but since we can't put the "stuff" back in the horse - at least we might be able to stop it from leaking out.
Posted by: Tina Johnson | Jan 30, 2009 5:04:18 PM
I have a friend who is reading "Dreams of My Father". Her impression is that for the first time in our history, we have a president who actually hates his country. I'll reserve opinion until I read it for myself. I hope she's wrong.
Posted by: LongT | Jan 30, 2009 4:25:14 PM
Battery Park would adequately serve as La Place de la Concord redux
Posted by: blogdog | Jan 30, 2009 4:18:14 PM
his presidency isn't two weeks old, and already warning flags have gone up.
Obama is wallpapering his administration with lobbyists, installed a tax cheat to run the Treasury Department and is pushing Congress to pass a massive, wildly unaffordable "stimulus" bill loaded with pork and reckless spending that plunges Americans even deeper into debt.
Even worse, the bill every day looks more like 15 years of pent-up big-government liberalism than an economic "stimulus" plan.
Ever since his election, many Americans have wondered which Barack Obama would show up at the White House: the most liberal member of the Senate or the post-partisan bearer of change we could all believe in.
One thing is clear: His "stimulus" bill is not change we can believe in. It's a return to big-government welfare that we will choke on.
Posted by: MLM411 | Jan 30, 2009 4:06:59 PM
Senate Banking Chairman Chris Dodd has been in typically indignant form this week, opining on the financial crisis. Before his Tuesday hearing on Bernard Madoff, he demanded that regulators get to the bottom of any crime: “American investors deserve an explanation and the responsible parties must be held accountable!” And yesterday the Connecticut Senator denounced Wall Street bonuses and said, “I am urging — in fact, not urging, demanding — that the Treasury Department figures out some way to get the money back.”
Pardon us, Senator, but how about taking your own advice?
We refer to his promise to release mortgage documents for the two properties that he and his wife refinanced with Countrywide Financial in 2003. In June a former Countrywide loan officer charged that Mr. Dodd received preferential rates and had fees waived on those loans as part of a VIP program the company had for “friends” of the company’s then-CEO Angelo Mozilo. Mr. Dodd first issued a denial and then, days later, acknowledged that he was a “VIP” with Countrywide but said he thought it was “more of a courtesy.” In late June he pledged to make all pertinent documents public “at some point.” We’re still waiting.
Posted by: Lizzie | Jan 30, 2009 3:20:57 PM
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