Obama Administration Maintains Bush Position on 'Extraordinary Rendition' Lawsuit

sammy--"If "Extraordinary Rendition" is legal then it's ok for everyone. How about Bush, Cheney and any other American Citizen. If it's ok to illegally kidnap folks, then it's ok to kidnap anyone." -- Do you even know what you are talking about?? Rendition has nothing to do with American detention and has nothing to do with American citizens... Its the process of returning NON citizens to their home country (or to other countries in which they are wanted) to stand trial and be processed under the legal systems inplace in their own country..

So... who'd he meet with?

Full press pool report:

Pool report #5
November 10, 2008
Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport

President Bush escorted President-elect Obama out of the Oval Office and walked him to down to the motorcade waiting on the south driveway.
(Josh Bolten separately escorted John Podesta to a car much further back in the motorcade.)
As they walked down the path, the president could be seen pointing things out to his soon-to-be successor.
They did not linger at the car and the motorcade took off at 3:45 p.m.

Michelle Obama left before her husband for her own separate schedule in Washington for the remainder of the day and will be traveling separately back to Chicago later tonight.
We're not being told what she will be doing in her extra time here, so we leave it to your imagination and reportorial instincts.

The motorcade encountered crowds of people gathered outside the White House as it made its way off campus and headed toward Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.
After arriving, President-elect Obama went into a previously unannounced "private" meeting at the airport's Fire Station 301.
We're not being told who it's with but it will last about an hour. Podesta was not in the meeting, or at least did not stay around in the meeting,
because he was spotted walking the other direction down the tarmac a few minutes after we arrived.
O Force One Frequent Flier Bonus Points to the first blogger to post 10 guesses about the identity of today's future cabinet secretary.

We're holding on the plane.

So the same old lies start from Mr. Change himself. Show a little courage and remember Jim Hightower's remark: the only things in the middle of the road are two yellow lines and a dead armadillo

This is just proof that the U.S.A. has much to hide regarding its status as a war criminal state. Even Obama is agreeing to hide the filthy secrets of a rogue war criminal government. There is no way anyone knows if Americans have been disappeared or if Americans remain in torture cells in foreign countries. Barack has just affirmed that if that were the case the secret will remain a secret, even at the cost of justice. Barack has just decided to become complicit in those war crimes, specifically the illegal "extraordinary rendition" of human beings to nations which are guaranteed to torture them and which will hold them forever secretly if the U.S. tells them to. Barack Obama is now ALSO a war criminal. He has made his decision to protect -- not American secrets -- American war criminals, and to throw the lives of those extradited and tortured away. Not everyone we have done this to is even a criminal, let alone a terrorist. There are many, many innocent people in torture cells in several nations, put there by the U.S. You cannot assume that they are all guilty just because that would be the most convenient perfection. It's simply not the truth and that has been proven by the release of many innocent people without any charges after years of detention and torture. The U.S.A., with a world full of enemies over the centuries, never had to stoop so low as to torture and "disappear" anyone. Now we are stuck with a third-rate nation run by people who condone disappearing anyone they want, anywhere in the world that they want, including the U.S. according The Wuss's rules which still exist, for torture and indefinite detention without charges. This is not the U.S.A. This has nothing to do with terrorism. This instead has become a nation of horror.

It is not a false dilemma to choose between safety and ideals - it is a real choice. You COULD leave your door unlocked and your toddlers on the streets until 10 pm but you DONT. You make a rational choice to limit your freedoms. We could give severance pay to all police except a few crossing guards but we DONT

"If you will trade your freedom for security, you will find yourself with neither. I think some dumb librul said that: Benjamin Franklin!"
Franklin said that about staying under colonial oppression not about rational national security policies to protect our people and establish a DIFFERENT due process for the terrorists.

" If you are scared, please move somewhere else" NO its you leftist that like to move. We AINT GOING. We and all rational people are going to work with the Obama administration to protect US, its already working!!

What is he going to do with the GITMO detainees though?

This is the second neocon happy dance on national security - check Wired Jan 22, David Kravets "The Obama administration fell in line with the Bush administration Thursday when it urged a federal judge to set aside a ruling in a closely watched spy case weighing whether a U.S. president may bypass Congress and establish a program of eavesdropping on Americans without warrants.
(Involves NSA and Treasury financial and communications investigation of Saudi charity)

National security is not as important as our freedoms and the Constitution. If we cannot keep America safe - using the laws of the land - maybe we need someone else running our intelligence offices. If you will trade your freedom for security, you will find yourself with neither. I think some dumb librul said that: Benjamin Franklin! If you are scared, please move somewhere else.

Glenn Greenwald did an excellent interview with ACLU's Ben Wizner that goes into the background and context of this case. (I can't seem to post the link, but Google Greenwald Wizner and it's the top hit.)

No American citizen has ever been in extraordinary rendition
( - well the American Taliban John Walker Lindh did get himself captured on the battlefield by Northern Alliance, boy I think he was glad he came out of that to America - though he's a sneaky little coward complicit in an American's murder in the Afghan prison uprising)
American citizens have gotten due process even in the Bush administration. Compare to Woodrow Wilson or the suspension of habeus to citizens by Lincoln

What a disaster. This is the one area where Obama really can demonstrate change, rather than just talking about it. But he's more concerned with covering up the crimes of the previous administration than doing the right thing.

Pathetic.

If "Extraordinary Rendition" is legal then it's ok for everyone. How about Bush, Cheney and any other American Citizen. If it's ok to illegally kidnap folks, then it's ok to kidnap anyone.

You had more than an inkling of this didn't you Jake?

Well what do you know? National security IS important. Who woulda thunk it?!