Stimulus Bill On-line, Critics Say It Contains Pork

How do you like Obama now?

Hmmm. It sounds like Obama was telling the truth, no earmarks.

The stimulus bill is a tournequet needed to stem the bleeding.

As far as anyone still talking about Obama's birth certificate, you're divorced from reality. The main proponant of the fake certificate theory had to admit that his handwriting experts verified that signatures were valid.

At least talk about something real.

I believe this stimulus package is the biggest farse I have ever seen. Absolutley no thought was given to anything in it. NOONE read the final bill before it was voted on. All I heard was "It doesn't really matter what is in the bill, as long as it is big, and we act fast". Now, I will give anyone the benefit of the dought, including the president, but that remark is about the DUMBEST, UNEDUCATED thing I have heard in my entire life. The people that voted for this bill and the president, do not have a clue.

Peach, google "Lily Ledbetter and Bush" for the history of the bill. no one thinks you are a liar just not informed.

It's interesting that there were more Democrats voting against the spending bill than there were Republicans voting for it.

"Democrats own it. Don't blame anyone else when it fails to deliver."

Obama has already stated this is on him.

Which is a refreshing change.

"Don't blame anyone else when it fails to deliver."

And don't forget who to give credit to when it DOES deliver.

I have no problems with the Democrats "owning" it. It's what happens when you're a grownup and actually take responsibility for doing something instead of sitting in the corner sucking your thumb.

Would any of you sign a 1,000 page contract without reading it first? Then how could any Representative vote FOR and how can any Senator vote FOR this spending bill WITHOUT FIRST READING the entire document?

"Not one House Republican voted for it. LOL"

Democrats own it. Don't blame anyone else when it fails to deliver.

"Not one House Republican voted for it. LOL"

And yet it will pass, peach, and President Obama will sign it into law. Who's LOLing now?

"Yes, you are correct - he's in the low 60% approval right now. Two weeks ago it was 83-85% approval."

Are you kidding, peach? There was only one poll, taken shortly before the inauguration, that had his approval in the 80s. That was a definite outlier and since he wasn't even President yet, there wasn't much to "approve" or "disapprove".

There are no "plummeting" poll numbers. His numbers have been consistently in the 60s or above since the inauguration. Considering the dire economic situation we're in and also considering some of the cabinet snafus, that's pretty darn good. Like I said, he was elected with 53% of the vote. There's been a GAIN of support since then, not "plummeting" poll numbers.

"The congressional record shows that the law was passed in the senat eon 1/22/09. Passed in the House on 1/27. Signed by the President on 1/29. So there were only 2 days between the final passage and the signature."

The House Bill passed 1/9/2009.

The Senate Bill passed 1/22/09.

The WH posted a link to the bill on their Blog on Jan 25th.

The House passed the Senate bill 1/27/09.

Obama signed it 1/29/09.

"That's NOT what the president promised."

Considered that you lied about what was promised not sure how you can complain about it.

You will complain of course but that is another issue.

Is the Senate now rushing to vote on Porkulus TODAY, in order to be able to joining the House, later, in pleading supernatural sabotage by "Friday the 13th" when it all goes bad?

I absolutely pray the Senate balks.

Has the media fallen down laughing yet whenever Obama lies and says there is no pork in this bill?

Not to inject too many facts into Ryan's little head, but here's the deal:

The congressional record shows that the law was passed in the senat eon 1/22/09. Passed in the House on 1/27. Signed by the President on 1/29. So there were only 2 days between the final passage and the signature.

That's NOT what the president promised. But keep spinning Ryan. You're earning your keep.

"Peach, thanks for posting that Huffington Post article. The left is furious that Obama broke his promise to post legislation on the web"

How funny.

"Gosh it was interesting reading that Huffington Post article. Even the left was upset that Obama broke his promise not to put the legislation on the WH web site and that it only took him a few days to break his campaign promise."

The article has Obama's remarks and a brief Ap summary with weblinks to various leftie bloggers. None said a word about the 5 days.

Why because this bill has been up for discussion for quite some time now even on Obama's WH blog.

The comments section has some obvious right wingers.

The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Peach, thanks for posting that Huffington Post article. The left is furious that Obama broke his promise to post legislation on the web. You know you've made a huge mistake when even Gibbs admitted they goofed.

"Ryan C - are you saying the legislation wasn't changed by Democrats from the legislation that was under consideration during Bush's term? Really?"

Democrats wrote both Ledbetter and SCHIP.

The SCHIP bill that was intro'd and signed was the same one that was passed and vetoed by Bush twice.

The Ledbetter bill intro'd was the same as the one debated for two years.

This is on the WH web site:

One significant addition to WhiteHouse.gov reflects a campaign promise from the President: we will publish all non-emergency legislation to the website for five days, and allow the public to review and comment before the President signs it.

Maybe the president considered the Lily Ledbetter legislation to be an emergency.

If so, heaven help us in a true emergency.