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Breakthrough on U.S.-Russian Relations? "We’re Not Looking Into Anybody's Soul," Says U.S. Official, Previewing "Sober" Yet Optimistic Announcement

April 01, 2009 10:00 AM

LONDON -- Senior officials with the Obama administration tell ABC News that this morning, after a bilateral meeting between President Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, the governments of both countries will make a major announcement relating to U.S.-Russian relations, including arms control, a statement of the future U.S.-Russian agenda and a U.S.-Russian summit to take place perhaps as early as this summer.

"There are very real differences between the United States and Russia, and I have no interest in papering those over," President Obama said Wednesday morning at a press conference with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. "But there are also a set of common interests."

The President listed those interests as ranging "from Afghanistan to Iran," including "reducing nuclear stockpiles … reducing the threat of terrorism ... stabilizing the world economy … and finding a sustainable path for energy and dealing with some of the threats of climate change. ... I think there's great potential for concerted action and that’s what I think we'll be pursuing."

"A good place to start will be the issue of nuclear proliferation," the president said.

The announcement will include a set of instructions to arms negotiators on how to conclude a new, "post-START" agreement by the end of 2009, a senior official tells ABC News.

START -- or the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty -- between the United States and then-USSR was signed in March 1991 and removed more than 75 percent of the strategic nuclear weapons in both countries' arsenals.

But START is set to expire Dec. 5, 2009.

Russian leaders have been making a lot of noise about rearming Russia; Russian Strategic Rocket Force Commander Nikolai Solovtsov, for example, said that Russia would start deploying next-generation RS-24 missiles after START expires at the end of the year.

Wednesday's announcement could put the United States and Russia on a path to prevent that rearming. It will not be a treaty, the official cautioned ABC News. "This is just a set of instructions on how negotiators need to proceed."

An Obama administration official says that the goal of the post-START negotiations would be to roughly reduce the joint u.S.-Russian nuclear arsenal to 3,000 missiles from the current allowable level of 4,400.

The announcement will also include a joint statement on U.S.-Russian relations. The statement will include a section on arms control, Iran, Afghanistan, European security, the United States' proposed missile defense shield, the Russian war with Georgia, the World Trade Organization, democracy and human rights.

"It will cover a big agenda -- setting the agenda for us to try to do more things in a more comprehensive cooperative way with the Russians," the official said. "One notion will be we should look at cooperative ways to look at defense.

"Nobody's going to be looking into anybody's soul tomorrow," the official said, referring to President George W. Bush's testimony about former Russian President Vladimir Putin. "We'll deal with concrete issues where we can cooperate, and we will also recognize our disagreements."

The officials described the document as dealing with "very concrete substantive issues, not 'preamble' language or high-flying rhetoric, no discussion of being allies or strategic partnerships."

The official described U.S. negotiators as being "very sober-minded. ... We're starting at a pretty bad place with U.S.-Russian relations. You'd have to go back to 1983 to remember a time when relations were so confrontational. And they're not now."

The process began with the letter President Obama wrote to Medvedev in February, in which the president acknowledged the deterioration of relations between the two countries and suggested that U.S. plans for a missile defense shield to protect European allies -- a shield fiercely opposed by the Russians -- wouldn't be necessary if Iran's nuclear weapons program were no longer an issue.

"What I said in the letter was that, obviously, to the extent that we are lessening Iran's commitment to nuclear weapons, then that reduces the pressure for, or the need for, a missile defense system," Obama said.

The letter was followed up with negotiations and discussions with Russian government officials by various U.S. officials, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -- who met Tuesday with Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov; Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs William Joseph Burns; and Michael McFaul, special assistant to the president for National Security Affairs and senior director of Russian and Eurasian affairs at the National Security Council.

-- Jake Tapper

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Kim, you inspired me to read more about global cooling and found this 2/11/07 article by Nigel Calder very interesting, at timesonline.

"[Svensmark] saw from compilations of weather satellite data that cloudiness varies according to how many atomic particles are coming in from exploded stars. More cosmic rays, more clouds. The sun’s magnetic field bats away many of the cosmic rays, and its intensification during the 20th century meant fewer cosmic rays, fewer clouds, and a warmer world...
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"...Svensmark and his small team at the Danish National Space Center hit the jackpot in the summer of 2005. In a box of air in the basement, they were able to show that electrons set free by cosmic rays coming through the ceiling stitched together droplets of sulphuric acid and water. These are the building blocks for cloud condensation. But journal after journal declined to publish their report; the discovery finally appeared in the Proceedings of the Royal Society...."

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You are so right, the CO2 global warming propaganda is purely political.

(PS - I've tried posting this twice, maybe third time lucky :)

Posted by: BR | Apr 2, 2009 8:24:03 PM

Posted by: kim | Apr 1, 2009 5:06:30 PM

In science, skepticism is the antidote for the confirmation bias. IMO, just as CO2 global warming data needs to be challenged, we also need more information before confirming Conservative predictions that President Obama's discussions with Russia will lead to "giving away the farm".

Where did you gather the insight that the new US strategy is only "vain hope that 'hope and change' are going to be persuasive"? I've also found it helps to lower the patronizing tone - common, "brain dead fool" ?

Posted by: CenterOne | Apr 2, 2009 1:08:57 PM

One of the MOST embarrassong moments of the bush administration was "I have looked into his soul"...I still cringe when i hear it..it made america sound like we were the village idiots..

Posted by: cowgirl | Apr 2, 2009 11:55:23 AM

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Posted by: Sarah | Apr 2, 2009 9:55:15 AM

Yeah, just give Moscow what it wants now so maybe they won't take too much in the future.

Good strategy there, Neville Obama.

Posted by: RR GOP | Apr 2, 2009 1:31:58 AM

"Obama is a brain dead fool to think putting the missile defense of Eastern Europe on the table as bargaining chip is going to be effective. "

Exactly. Iran has nothing to lose at this point and everything to gain by having nukes. Iran with nukes will still have a continued mutually beneficial relationship with Russia, which imo, doesn't really care if Iran has nukes or not.

Posted by: Sigmond | Apr 1, 2009 8:54:26 PM

CenterOne at 2PM. Ocean acidification is exaggerated. Increased CO2 in the ocean will do just as it does in the atmosphere, that is fertilize plant life. Furthermore, the action of CO2 on the oceanic biosphere, in conjunction with the sun, will increase the rate at which carbon is virtually permanently sequestered from the carbon cycle, decreasing the time estimated to remove the anthropogenic CO2 we are placing in the environment. Ocean acidification is not imaginary, just as climate warming from CO2 is not imaginary. Both effects are trivial, though, and they've been exaggerated in order to stampede the herd into expensive, unnecessary, and deadly policy changes. Policy changes which, incidentally, accrue great power to politicians, and disempower all other people, but poor people selectively more. Do you like that?

Obama is a brain dead fool to think putting the missile defense of Eastern Europe on the table as bargaining chip is going to be effective. The Russians are not as stupid as the Taliban who happily announce that efforts to engage them are insane and idiotic. I have no objection to Obama talking to the Russians, and the Chinese, or anyone for that matter. I do object to him giving away our strategic advantages in the vain hope that 'hope and change' are going to be persuasive to them. Those guys are realists, and appreciated Bush's realism. They will be happy to cozy up to Obama's foolish rhetoric as he gives away the farm.

I might be wrong, I even hope I'm wrong. But I don't think I am. The world is populated with very smart people who understand power. Obama and crew don't understand much but rhetoric and Western elite guilt.
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Posted by: kim | Apr 1, 2009 5:06:30 PM

To me this sudden outbreak of 'Good America Mania' where the U.S. is attempting to improve relations with Iran, China, Russia and other enstranged countries is nothing but strategic politics. Its all drive by the Afghanistan quagmire; U.S. needs international support and does not mind courting any likely supporter. Afghanistan seems have emerged as a global reconciler.

Posted by: thetrajectory | Apr 1, 2009 4:10:10 PM

I like all the comments about the 'successful' SDI program that Reagan supposedly fathered. There is no such thing, and if there's a nuclear war, we're all still dead.

It was a tragic waste of money that led to some of our current huge deficits. Where are you people getting your information?

Posted by: teacheng | Apr 1, 2009 3:57:35 PM

Nick, riiigghht...the man has degrees and honors you couldn't pronounce but here you are questioning his intelligence. LOL!

Posted by: try the truth | Apr 1, 2009 3:53:13 PM

Another Bush bash, lovely. Always looking for a way to sneak that in there aren't they.

Posted by: KR | Apr 1, 2009 3:50:22 PM

president awesome should learn that "all i needed to know about life i learned in kindergarten" is not applicable to foreign relations.

of course, i am assuming he can read at that grade level

Posted by: nick danger | Apr 1, 2009 3:13:31 PM

Well, just so long as the US isn't pointing a GUN at Russia's head.

Posted by: Mockingbird | Apr 1, 2009 8:01:18 AM

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You do know that all government is an exercise in the threat or use of force, right?

From jaywalking to ICBM treaties, force motivates actions of people and nations.

Posted by: WSLS-Webguy | Apr 1, 2009 3:12:32 PM

Like Obama or Medvedev have souls. Obama is an empty vessel upon which liberals project their fondest dreams, while Medvedev is a hollow puppet of Vladimir Putin.

Posted by: WSLS-Webguy | Apr 1, 2009 3:08:58 PM

Obama has already tipped the Russians to the fact that he is not serious about missile defense.

Clever strategery, that.

Posted by: hillbillyjim | Apr 1, 2009 2:33:07 PM

Ha ha ha.

Posted by: Jim Treacher | Apr 1, 2009 2:17:30 PM

Kim: I agree that climate science is not settled, particularly when it comes to ocean acidification and its impact our food chain, something you have not mentioned. So, if as you suggest, CO2 is not responsible for the temperature rising, what about our oceans?

And even if you believe an attempt to trade Russian influence is foolish, why would re-engaging Russia be an act of "brain dead fools"?

According to Jeffrey Goldberg, a national correspondent for The Atlantic, nuclear proliferation experts he's spoken with judge the chance of a terrorist detonation to be as high as 50 percent in the next 10 years. Two years ago Obama stated that the possibility of a terrorist group obtaining a nuclear weapon was “the No. 1 threat” facing America and he has made proposals to secure the world’s loose fissile material during his first term. Does that appear sensible even to a conservative?

Posted by: CenterOne | Apr 1, 2009 2:00:35 PM

So the Russian people want to go back to the days of standing in line for bread and only one quarter of a million people living well in the midst of millions who did not?

Posted by: glasater | Apr 1, 2009 1:50:56 PM

I'm sure the Obama administration can come to many agreements with Russia. The question is what are they giving up? it seems Obama is more then happy to abandon eastern Europe to the Russian sphere of influence. Keep in mind Eastern Europe wants a missile shield and their want has nothing to do with Iran. The fact we were going to base interceptors in Eastern Europe had nothing to do with Iran.
100 bucks says the obama administration's announcement does nothing to prevent Russian interference in former republics like Georgia or Ukraine.

Posted by: Zaggs | Apr 1, 2009 1:36:39 PM

Reagan: The Republicans have to go back to the 80's to Cling to a President that...

Hob Knobbed with Russian Leaders.

Who is Responsible for De-Regulating [Wall Street & Banking Systems] which lead the [Savings and Loan Scandal] as well as the Previous this times Economic Dibacle !!

No Regulation, No Rules, translates to Mass Chaos !!

Its sad to see Ronald Wilson Reagan so Over-Used when the Republicans had a Republican President and Majority Senate and Congress, when Bush never saw a [Spending Bill] that he Ever Vetoed..

You can scream all you want...

Bush will not get off the Hook that easy.

And we will tell you that, every minute of the Every day..

Talk about Bush, My Bad, Deserves all the Tongue Lashing, as mcuh as Possibe

Posted by: O. | Apr 1, 2009 1:31:49 PM

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