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Bibles Destroyed in Afghanistan... By U.S. Military

May 19, 2009 12:56 PM

On May 4, Al Jazeera English ran a report suggesting that U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan may have been violating anti-proselytizing rules by distributing Dari-and Pashto-language New Testament Bibles.

Central Command General Order No. 1 specifically forbids “proselytizing of any faith, religion or practice.” The footage came from documentary filmmaker Brian Hughes

The report showed a service from approximately a year ago, with the head U.S. military chaplain in Afghanistan, Lt. Colonel Gary Hensley, talking about the need to spread the Gospel.

"The special forces guys -- they hunt men basically," Hensley said. "We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down. Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."

In another clip, Sgt. Jon Watt mentions during a Bible study class: "My church collected some money to get Bibles for Afghanistan. They came and sent the money out."

In a discussion about General Order No. 1, Watt says "you can't proselytize, but you can give gifts."

In the extended documentary footage Watt talks about how this worked in Iraq. "I bought a carpet and then I gave the guy a Bible after I conducted my business... The expressions that I got from the people in Iraq [were] just phenomenal, they were hungry for The Word."
 

The day of the Al Jazeera English broadcast, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Navy Adm. Mike Mullen was asked about the report.

"My reaction is twofold," Mullen said. "One is that I'm not aware of the details of this and certainly want to know more about it. Secondly, it certainly is -- from the United States military's perspective -- not our position to ever push any specific kind of religion. Period."

Pentagon officials immediately began assailing the story as "wrong." Pentagon officials said that Lt. Col. Hensley was not promoting the proselytizing of Afghans, and Watt was counseled not to distribute them.

Though a discussion about what to do with the Bibles was captured on video, Pentagon officials said the end result that the Bibles were not distributed but confiscated by the chaplain -- which is not shown in the footage.

"A documentary filmmaker was allowed onto Bagram last May to shoot footage of religious sessions involving troops," the Pentagon said. "He recorded a session where a participant displayed Bibles translated into Dari and Pashto that had been sent to him by his church back home.  After a discussion of how or if  they should be distributed, the chaplain running the service reaffirmed Gen. Order No. 1 and the Bibles were not distributed and were confiscated."

As to the Lt. Col. Hensley urging his congregation to hunt people for Jesus, the Pentagon official said the chaplain was speaking in general terms and not urging them to go out into Afghanistan to convert locals.

(That, of course, does not touch the issue of Sgt. Watt distributing Bibles in Iraq.)

On May 5, Army spokeswoman Major Jennifer Willis told Reuters that at Bagram Air Force Base in Afghanistan "the Bibles shown on Al Jazeera's clip were, in fact, collected by the chaplains and later destroyed. They were never distributed."

Today, Christian Broadcasting's David Brody says "the Bibles were burned because the rules on the base say that all garbage is burned at the end of the day. But just asking here; if the U.S. Military seized a stack full of Korans, would they be burned? You think that might cause a little outrage in the Muslim world?"

Brody also makes note of The Great Commission in the Book of Matthew where Jesus says "(G)o and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you."

-- Jake Tapper and Luis Martinez



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Posted by: Bobert Bobowsky | Sep 16, 2009 7:32:16 AM

Gee, it's an act of true religious faith to believe that a guy on a dialysis machine with a cellphone not organized so complex an operation as 9/11 but continues to mastermind a worldwide conspiracy against the USA.

Shortly before her death, Mrs. Benazir Bhutto stated in an interview with David Frost that Mr. bin Laden was dead. Interestingly, Mr. Frost moved effortlessly on to the next question as if he hadn't heard a thing.

As for God being "our only hope for peace", his track record should have driven him to suicide millennia ago. That failing, the human race should fire him. Given that the Pope abolished Limbo a few months ago, maybe he could have a word with Him and persuade Him to resign quietly?

Posted by: Arthur Borges | Jul 14, 2009 1:45:10 PM

Outrageous! We should not only be able to give Bibles to others but if we accept the Koran in this country "as a gift of education, not for religious puposes", we should be able to reciprocate with Bibles.

Posted by: Peggy | Jul 10, 2009 2:09:30 PM

Now we know that waste is in this Obama admin. We know that Bibles are useful tools of God in our God fearing country. Someone mentioned that if this happen to have been Korans, imagine the uproar in the muslim community. This is outrageous.

Posted by: Chris | May 26, 2009 10:06:38 AM

Un-American to burn books. Blasphemy to burn bibles. What have we become? A nation that burns books and bibles? This would never have happened under a Republican president. Look what the Democrats are doing to our country. Shame on the Democrats.

Posted by: Blake | May 25, 2009 12:28:34 AM

Destroy many Bibles, where's the outrage?

Start a rumor that we destroyed one Koran and people die.

The world and our country is sicker than we admit.

Posted by: Dennis | May 23, 2009 12:09:58 PM

I remember touring the Truman Presidential Library about 10 years ago when a tribute to WWII was on display. An image of two US medics attending to a fallen Japanese soldier was displayed. I marveled at the fact that our medics would do this knowing the "live forensic operations" that the Japanese would perform on our soldiers.

I remember scenes of US soldiers unloading truckloads of provisions to their enemies captured in the desert in Iraq during the first Gulf War. Many other memories fill my mind.

No other nation has returned good for the battle front evil it has received from its enemies like the US Military. The statement,"greater love has no man than he lay down his life for another" comes directly from our Bible. Without that Bible that we have firmly and unwavering held as an unconditional standard to be followed, Japan and Europe would have never have been restored and rebuilt, Iraq would not see their schools restored, electricity in place, their temples rebuilt or an equal part in place with Kurds, Sunis and Shias.

If you think that this is not the outcome of a nation that holds these truths as not to be compromised and has not based this on love of enemy as well as friend, then I ask you,"what other nation has expended blood and treasure on its friends and its foes like the US?" And what other nation has done so without asking for any property in return other than "just enough land to bury its dead?"

Shame on you Pentagon and the Obama Administration for disgracing God's scared word. It is shameful that we would destroy that which has defined us. For only great when we are good. And the Lord is the only one who makes men good.

Posted by: Kevin | May 23, 2009 9:57:32 AM

If the Army had burned a load of Korans, the crap would've been in the wind. Main-stream media would still be screaming about the affront to Islam.
Why the difference?
Because the world HATES the TRUTH.

Posted by: Woody | May 21, 2009 11:36:43 AM

How this story was spun is quite interesting. I was notified of this hitting the media and all by a good friend - and my senior pastor. Now, why would he notify me? Well, I'm Jon Watt --- the guy mentioned in the story. Care to discuss this with me further -- my email is ssgwattjonc at hot mail.

There are a number of points that the story glosses over - or makes sound or look more sinister than is reality. First -- the scene where the chaplain is preaching in the chapel - and then the camera comes to a pistol on a hip --- making it look like the chaplain's. FALSE!!! Chaplains are forbidden to ever hae a weapon and there has been at least one chaplain who picked up a weapon in self-defense of himself and other soldiers as the others were all severely wounded - and he was stripped of ever being a chaplain again.

As to why provide Bibles for others --- there is a great difference between pushing a Bible on someone - or of forcing someone to listen to a message on Christ --- and simply providing people the opportunity to take a Bible if they so choose. Why would a Muslim be interested in having a Bible? NOT because it is a Christian book nor a Jewish/Christian book - but rather because the Koran does teach that the Bible is the Word of God. While the Koran does not place the Bible on a totally equal footing as the Koran - it does hold the Bible in very high regard.

I appreciate the words that Mohammad shared the day this article was first published. I have made a study of Islam reading materials both by active Muslims and by former Muslims. I have a very deep respect for the Islamic faith. Yes, it is different from Christianity in the areas that Mohammed pointed out - but if all Christians were to live by many of the principles taught in Islam while holding onto the distinctives of Christianity they would be better Christians. By the same token, if a Muslim was to learn and live by some of the principles taught in Christianity - they would be better Muslims.

Now, I will admit that as an Evangelical Christian who believes the Bible is the very Word of God - I would like to see all come to embrace the full truth of who Christ is and what His death on a cross and resurrection from the dead means or can mean for each and every man, woman and child.

However, the Bibles were not to be given as a gift - not as prosyltism. Think about what was shared in the video - the second video in this article -- the Bible was to be left somewhere that the Afghan could choose to take it or not as he desired.

Posted by: One Who Was There | May 21, 2009 2:03:22 AM

Dewde: You wrote: "...ask if there was 'something' that made everything, where did that 'something' come from."

You may not agree, but that is your choice. But for me the answer is in Genesis and Revelation.

Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

Revelation 22:13 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

I, likewise, wish you well on your journey.

Posted by: James Danley | May 21, 2009 1:39:47 AM

You Americans are crazy. If any of the Afghans get caught by the Taliban with a Bible in their possession they'll be executed. Are you going to protect them? Why don't you translate Mark Twain into Pashto / Dari. Why doesn't the British Army hand out Bibles in Pashto/Dari ? I could understand if you handed out Korans in Pashto or Dari. After all, the Koran is written in Arabic and Afghans do not speak or read Arabic. Very few of them can even read or write Pashto or Dari. So Korans written in one of the two Afghan languages would at least have a lot of practical value. This is not the time to be handing out Bibles to Afghan civilians with the Taliban all around. God willing the day will come when Afghans will no longer have to live in fear of being executed for owning a Bible.

Posted by: Afghan Man | May 21, 2009 12:46:06 AM

James Danley

OK, you and I will differ on what the sciences indicate as to global warming, and which scientists to 'believe'.

as to 'pure random chance creating the universe':
again I think we would never find common ground here, but I will leave you with this for consideration:
- you and others say that the universe in all it's amazing complexity could not have 'just' happened, your implication is that something else is behind the 'creation' of the cosmos as we now know it to be.
I could very well use your comments framework
to logically ask if there was 'something' that made everything, where did that 'something' come from.
We arrive at the classic stalemate:
- where faith and religious commitment come into play to help understand what can not be explained by science or understood by some other means.
- yet there seemingly is no acknowledgment of my and others questions of divine origin and 'proof' of the mysterious 'thing that makes all'.

-we arrive at:, 'well you have to have faith and believe, or you won't understand, and if you don't worship as 'we' do,..you will not get the 'reward', but regardless of what you believe, you will suffer in some other dark unknown mystical realm because you're different from 'us'.

you suggest that a universe of random chance can not happen ... but you are comfortable with the assumption of 'something' with powers that you admit you can't explain, with no explanation of how that came into being.

As I mentioned, I have no problems with the faithful, I have many religious folks of different faiths in my family.

Also, Russ mentioned 'the truth', truth is a matter of perspective, and it varies from generation to generation.

My not having answers to very deep questions leads me to a very different search for understanding than yours.

I wish you well on your journey.

Posted by: Dewde | May 21, 2009 12:00:37 AM

Religion in the hands of men can be worse than a bottle of gin!

Posted by: FlexSF | May 20, 2009 10:57:06 PM

Dewde, I am a huge fan of the sciences. But the global warming alarmists have taken an ideology that is anti-fossil fuels and manipulated results to conform to their agenda. True science has proven that it is the cosmos that controls warming and cooling trends.

I have no doubt that man has influenced temperature changes but nowhere to the degree that the alarmists project. Temperatures in Hawaii, for example, have warmed over the past 20 years. But it's not because of greenhouse gas emissions, but rather the elimination of the canefields and replacing them with asphalt and concrete parking lots and shopping centers.

It has been estimated that 89% of the weather reporting stations in the United States failed to meet the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) standards. The temperature measuring equipment at these weather reporting stations are required to be at least 100 feet from any artificial heat source or reflecting and radiating sources. Yet many of these weather reporting stations were surrounding by parking lots and roads or too close to sidewalks and buildings. This results in greatly inflated "official" temperatures.

You really believe that the first atom formed itself out of nothing; then out of nowhere additional atoms formed and they combined to form molecules--many different molecules--and then combined further to form millions of different objects? That the reproductive systems for plants, insects and the animal kingdom were by "pure random chance?" That DNA is just a freak of nature? That the gravitational pull of the sun on the earth is such that it revolves around the sun in just the right orbit to sustain life happened by sheer luck? That low and high pressure areas which interact creating our weather just happened by chance? As I mentioned previously, I believe it requires an incredible amount of faith to believe that the entire universe was created by "pure random chance."

Now as for evolution, I personally don't believe we humans evolved from apes. The cliche response is if we did why didn't all of the apes evolve? However, I do believe that many species do evolve and adapt to their environment.

Posted by: James Danley | May 20, 2009 9:07:52 PM

Russ:

1 more thing re: "but I do have truth and truth will hold up to scrutiny and will prove out."

a lot of bad things have happened throughout history by people claiming to know the 'truth'..

If one were able to ask them, I would suggest to you that the followers of Bin Laden would also tell you that they have the 'truth' on their side also.

Posted by: Dewde | May 20, 2009 7:47:41 PM

..."have no problem forcing their own beliefs of global warming on everyone demanding that we all change our lifestyles to conform with their beliefs." James Danley

So James, is the earth flat or oval-ish?
does the earth revolve around the sun or vice versa?
if you drop a baseball from your hand, will it hit the ground or fly away?
I guess evolution is out for you also.

Is there any science you believe in?

Posted by: Dewde | May 20, 2009 7:38:00 PM

Russ:
re: The bible is the word of God and because of this it will stand up to the test of scrutiny as it has now done for 2500 years or more. But those who will be as a child and learn from God, will know His wisdom and knowledge.

I experience this just about every time I discuss religion with anyone. I am happy for you that religion is meaningful in your life.

You use your faith in the bible and religion to 'prove' the bible and religion.

War has also been around, longer than 2500 years.

'They'... are the other folks who claim to be christians following their faith as you do yours, but their version is different, even the Vatican has made changes and interprets scripture.
There are many versions of christianity.

if you are indeed 'interpreting the bible literally' than I guess I should ask you Old or New Testament....both?...and further, is the bible accurate in it's portrayal of all events found in it.

Posted by: Dewde | May 20, 2009 7:33:10 PM

You can be and say anything today and be protected except when it comes to the Bible and Christianity. If they had burned the Koran, our president would have wet himself trying to tell those folks how bad and selfish we were for doing that. The fact that the Afghan gov does not want any Christian lit or talk tells you just how afraid they are of its power to change. As far as the Afghan war...remember 911. As for Iraq...remember everyone else in the world that wants to destroy a piece of America for their own satisfaction...To the troops...fight to win....share your heart!

Posted by: PK | May 20, 2009 7:23:24 PM

This is plain wrong. What ever happened to treat your neighbors as you would like to be treated?

Posted by: d kolich | May 20, 2009 6:36:27 PM

We all know the U.S. Military is a part of our government. We also know that our constitution forbids the government from participating in religious propaganda. Destroying those Bibles was the right thing to do. Some think the Bible is the gospel truth. I wrote a book that pinpoints the many impossibilities, misperceptions and blatant lies of the Bible.

Posted by: Harry Tomlin | May 20, 2009 6:22:40 PM

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