Follow the Stimulus, Part 2: Stoves in Davenport, Iowa

Every wave has an under current.The President is still cresting; he can get in front of the teleprompter and sell his story without the mainstream press offering any objections.

The tide is already changing - pretty soon someone is going to say "the Emperor has no clothes."

My guess is this whole agenda is suspect even to the faithful. Too much goverment, too much spending and too little results. The thing about politics is that just as quick as you think you have blue skies it clouds up and you have flood conditions.

Every wave has an under current. We are still at the peak of the Obama wave. He can get in front of a telepromter and sell the faithful pretty much anything.

Turns out there are some real holes in the facts and they are starting to get traction. Obama's spin machine is having a hard time twisting things in their favor; even the faithful are having a hard time swallowing what they are feeding them. It all worked when they had Bush to bash as the alternative but that is fading - now it is Obama, his agenda and the results.

When they have to reach that far tells me that they know at some point someone is going to say "the emperor has no clothes."

Jake Tapper is one of the few mainstream media reporters that I actually trust these days.

Good work Jake. Keep asking questions ... please!

Pardon me . . . I low balled the Rumsfeld 'lost' money figure . ..

(CBS) On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld admitted, "according to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions."

$2.3 trillion in unaccounted for funds under the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld watch.

And President Obama is catching heat over 42 home stoves.

Interesting.

Paul . .. .

Rumsfeld 'lost' 3 billion dollars at the Pentagon . ... simply couldn't account for it. Millions and millions of dollars went 'missing' in Iraq. Halliburton (Cheney's old corporation) received billions of dollars in single source contracts. Try to get some perspective on domestic stove/ovens for public housing.

Your hard work was pissed away by the billions by the Bush administration . .. irresponsibly 'lost' or doled out to corporate 'buddies' by the millions . . .

If you want some stimulus money, you should move to Congressman John Murthas district of Pennsylvania. He just loves to give our money to anyone who is a voter of his with no accountability at all, just a few bucks kicked back to his re election bid.

The workers who don't live in public housing or work for the UAW are paying to subsidize both groups..

I'm grateful that I can live in a country where I work 50 hours a week to pay for someone else's new stove, and then come home each night to my own broken stove that I can't afford to replace.

President Obama asked that the media double-check government facts and figures and invited the media to help keep the processes on the level.

It's good that Tapper is doing that.

Imagine counting and worrying over 42 domestic stoves after the billions passed out the Bush White House to Halliburton in single source contracts and the millions unaccounted for in Iraq. What about the several billion dollars Rumsfeld 'misplaced' in the Pentagon.

Things appear to have improved.

Haven't spent 7% of the first round......but lets hurry before someone asks to see the second, okay?
God save us from this IDIOT!!

We should have just let recission run it path, which it is doing. Stop the stimulus money now.

What I say is more important than what I do. Right?

Obama blatantly lies and grabs credit for everything because most Americans are dumb enough to believe him.

BO seems to believe he is immune to backlash and above any kind of rules.

And why shouldn't he be delusional he has most of the MSM to cover for him and a base would follow him off a cliff.
Kool-aid drinkers.

Axey:"There was no tax rate reduction. "

No there wasn't. But there was a tax credit given, so the reduced weekly withholding does not have to be paid back come April as you absurdly claimed.

And may I second the wish that Jake look into the matter and report on it? That way, more people won't be surprised when the tax cut wasn't really a tax cut.

=== I'm not sure if it's a Big Lie campaign or sincere ignorance.

Posted by: jhw539 | May 29, 2009 12:01:07 PM===

I'm really through with this issue unless Jake does an actual blog about it. But I assure you, I am right on this one. There was no tax rate reduction.

Axey:"In the meantime, talk to someone, HR, an accountant, just make sure you don't come up short next April."

Please Jake, just a short blog on this. This is insane - Obama is beat up over his stimulus plan cost at the same time you have right wingers denying the very existence of the largest single cost in it? Please...

Axey:"The $800 is for joint filers. If you have 2 jobs and both jobs are reducing the amount withheld to equal the $800, you are in a world of hurt. "

Joint filers or head of household. And if you have 2 jobs and are on default withholding, you already have issues.

As a side note, the tax credit is phased out for those earning over $70k - this is the vaugely rational, "its not fair," argument I've hear from conservatives. The right wing display of ignorance here, denying the existence of the tax credit payments entirely, is baffling. I'm not sure if it's a Big Lie campaign or sincere ignorance.

===What part of $800 tax credit do you not understand?

Posted by: jhw539 | May 29, 2009 11:56:59 AM===

I do understand it. You don't. But one thing is for sure, this is something that will be proven one way or the other come next tax day. I'll check back in Jake's to see if you have seen the light. In the meantime, talk to someone, HR, an accountant, just make sure you don't come up short next April.

Axey:"What part of a reduction in withholding are you not understanding? Your tax obligation remains the same."

What part of $800 tax credit do you not understand?