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NSA James Jones: Obama's Decisions Make U.S. More Secure
May 27, 2009 10:11 PM
ABC News' Luis Martinez reports: The debate on whether America's been made less safe by the Obama administration's decision to close Guantanamo and end the use enhanced interrogation techniques went another round tonight. This time it was National Security Advisor James Jones who countered former Vice President Cheney's arguments that ending the Bush administration's anti-terror policies have made America less safe.
In remarks to the Atlantic Council, Jones said America is not only safe under the Obama administration, but will become increasingly secure under his leadership. Jones' remarks were his first public remarks since the former general became National Security Advisor.
Jones said, "In my view, I firmly believe that the United States is not only safe but it will be more secure and the American people are increasingly safer because of the president's leadership that he has displayed consistently over the last four months, both at home and abroad." "He has said clearly and unequivocally that we are at war with terrorism and terrorism can take many facets."
He explained the US was safer because of the decision to close the detention facility, increased defense spending, the new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the responsible pullout of troops from Iraq.
Speaking of the "false choice" between security and ideals, Jones said Guantanamo had created more terrorists than it had housed. He never mentioned Cheney by name other than addresing him as the Vice-President during the Q&A that followed. Speaking of Cheney's arguments he said, "no administration is going to suggest that their performance had made the country less safe." He added "I think that the former vice president knows full well that perfection is an impossible standard," because sometimes the only thing the US can do is "keep threats at bay and as far away from our shores as possible."
Jones also touched on current events such as the North Korean nuclear test which he called a "pretty serious moment." But he's been impressed by the responses of Russia, China, and India to the test which indicate an international consensus is building that "North Korea and Iran should not be permitted to have such weapons." He said the nuclear test and the recent missile test do not pose an imminent threat because North Korea has a long way to go before it can weaponize that technology. However, he's concerned that proliferation of that technology does pose an imminent threat. To that end how to deal with North Korea will be a main topic of discussion at President Obama's upcoming summit with Russian President Medvedev.
He's encouraged by the Pakistani Army's offensives to take on their insurgents and thinks it should be about a year to gauge how the new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan is doing.
Regarding changes he's made to the NSC, Jones said he wanted to make it more agile and proactive by looking at situations that might develop six to eight months out. He said the President doesn't get involved in every decision as issues are thoroughly debated as they work their way up through working groups and sometimes to the principals. But when he does preside at meetings, Jones described an actively engaged President. "Nobody gets out unchallenged,” and he joked "there's no sleeping" as the President likes to hear dialogue and opposing views. "Nobody walks away from the table thinking that they have not been heard,” he said.
Jones indicated media predictions that Obama's "team of rivals" wouldn't work together haven't panned out as his greatest satisfaction has been seeing the "level of collegiality" that's developed among them. But Jones said the same can't be said for their underlings as apparently "the team of rivals exists at other levels."
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ryanc...Threat: 1.Expression of an INTENTION to inflict something harmful. 2.An indication of impending danger or harm. 3. One regarded as a POSSIBLE danger: MENANCE
Houghton Mifflin College Dictonary
To say Saddam Hussein posed no "threat" to either our allies or ourselves is someone who is in complete:
Denial: 1. A refusal to comply with or satisfy a request. 2. A refusal to acknowledge the truth of a statement or allegation: CONTRADICTION. 3. A rejection as of a doctrine or belief. 4. The act of disowning or disavowing: REPUDIATION...And finally...SELF-DENIAL
Posted by: Parallax View | May 29, 2009 12:20:59 PM
One additional comment regarding Saddam Hussein, as you recall President Bush frequently stated: "If you hide a terrorist, if you feed a terrorist, if you provide comfort to a terrorist, you're just as guilty as the terrorist."
Within the Authorization For Use Of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 are the following statements:
"Whereas Iraq’s demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;"
AND
"Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens;" (NOTE: Saddam Hussein provided at least $10 million to the families--up to $25,000 per family--of Palestinian suicide bombers who attacked Israel.)"
I ask you, what would your response be today if we had NOT invaded Iraq and Iraq had given WMDs to terrorists who then attacked Israel, Europe or even the United States? I reiterate, it was the result of our invasion of Iraq that PROVED that Iraq no longer had WMDs.
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2009 9:22:09 AM
1. The Democrats claimed that Iraq's WMDs posed a serious threat to the United States and Iraq's neighbors in 1998. Some even said the threat was imminent. So Congress passed the Iraq Liberation Act. All throughout 1998-2000 the the Clinton Administration continued to talk about the threat that Iraq posed to the United States.
2. The Bush Administration was briefed during the transition by the Clinton Administration on Iraq's WMDs and the threat that it posed to the United States and Iraq's neighbors in Dec 2000 and Jan 2001.
3. The intelligence agencies continued to brief President Bush on Iraq's WMD programs.
4. Former Ambassador Joe Wilson returned from his African trip and verbally told the CIA that an Iraq delegation had traveled to Niger in 1999 and that Niger officials believed that they were interested in buying uranium. Contrary to what his article stated, the CIA believed that this corroborated their belief that Saddam Hussein was seeking yellowcake uranium. NOTE: Iraq sold 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium to Canada in July of 2008.
5. At one point, Iraq actually launched a missile at one of our planes while it was in Kuwaiti airspace. NOTE: This alone was an act of war.
6. Following the attacks of 9/11, President Bush changed our national security policy to one of being proactive -- we would no longer wait until after an attack or until a threat became imminent before taking action.
7. Congress passed the Authorization For Use Of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002. Read the entire resolution. It's on the Internet.
8. We learned that Iraq did not have WMDs ONLY AFTER the invasion. However the fact that Iraq did not have WMDs is irrelevant. That's because one of the conditions of the 1991 Cease Fire was that Saddam Hussein had to prove that he no longer had WMDs. After 12 years of failing to comply with a single condition of the ceasefire, the UN Security Council finally issued it final ultimatum in 2002. However, they made it clear that they had no intention of following through on the ultimatum. So President Bush issued his own final ultimatum. When Saddam Hussein refused to comply, President Bush rescinded the 1991 Cease Fire and resumed the original Gulf War.
9. The Bush Administration did not view the invasion as a cakewalk. For months leading up to the invasion there was much discussion of how difficult the street fighting would be. Then, when at the very last minute Turkey denied our use of their airspace for the northern flank of the invasion, the Bush Administration knew that minus the northern flank we would not be able to contain Saddam Hussein's army in Baghdad. And that would make the battle even more difficult.
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2009 3:09:16 AM
"Kuwait Invaded by Iraq forces, Gulf War, NFZ Operation Northern Watch and Operation Southern Watch protecting Kurds and mission of preventing further inhumane acts against civilian populations American and British received anti-aircraft fire from Iraqi forces daily"
ZERO THREAT to the United States.
ZERO Threat to our allies in the MidEast.
The attack on Iraq was viewed by the lunatics in the Bush admin as a cakewalk and something to burnish Bush's national defense credibility in the wake of 9/11 happening on his watch.
Over 4000 Americans have died, with tens of thousands maimed as well as over a hundred thousand Iraqi civilians dead because Bush made the decision to attack a country that was no threat to us. Even cooking up intelligence to scare the American people to go along with it.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 28, 2009 6:34:15 PM
ryan c...Kuwait Invaded by Iraq forces, Gulf War, NFZ Operation Northern Watch and Operation Southern Watch protecting Kurds and mission of preventing further inhumane acts against civilian populations American and British received anti-aircraft fire from Iraqi forces daily....Ummmm sounds like threat too me...
Posted by: Parallax View | May 28, 2009 6:25:21 PM
James Jones' comments make his NSA job more secure.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 28, 2009 5:33:51 PM
"Following the attacks of 9/11, the Bush Administration changed our national security policy from being "reactive" to being "proactive.""
So they attacked a country that was zero threat to us or our allies.
Makes total sense.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 28, 2009 4:35:49 PM
"I repeat, what did attacking and invading Iraq
have to do with the 9/11 attack"
Did you ever go read the authorization for war approved by both parties in Congress? If you get time, please do.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009 2:40:39 PM
Following the attacks of 9/11, the Bush Administration changed our national security policy from being "reactive" to being "proactive."
Posted by: James Danley
I repeat, what did attacking and invading Iraq
have to do with the 9/11 attack
Posted by: Oh Yeah | May 28, 2009 1:58:12 PM
He explained the US was safer because of the decision to close the detention facility, increased defense spending, the new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the responsible pullout of troops from Iraq.
This is an opinion based on an
already failed strategy aka blah, blah,
blah!
There is No Proof that the decision to
close Gitmo has made us safer unless
you count the fact that the Iranians and the North Koreans are going
forward with their nuclear programs
despite our "stern warnings"! LOL.
The new strategy in Afganistan and
Pakistan is working? How? When? Bull!
The Iraq withdrawn was negotiated
under President Bush.
In other words Jones is a Liar!
Posted by: reaganfan | May 28, 2009 12:31:58 PM
"The extent of the cuts remains unclear, but the flying-hour reductions will last until the end of the fiscal year as part of the Navy’s fleetwide efforts to deal with the budget crunch on Capitol Hill."
So much for that increase in defense spending Mr. Jones.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009 11:16:58 AM
"So, Mr. President, are we still fighting a global 'war on terror', or not?"
Oh no, its overseas contingency operations. Friend of mine made an awesome recreation of an old WW2 poster that says "America is at War and Uncle Sam wants you!" He modified it and it said "America is at Overseas Contigency Operations and Uncle Same wants you to fight man-caused-disasters"
Lol its a riot.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009 10:39:22 AM
"He has said clearly and unequivocally that we are at war with terrorism and terrorism can take many facets."
The former President was often accused of fighting a 'verb'...i.e., fighting 'terrorism', not 'terrorists'.
So, Mr. President, are we still fighting a global 'war on terror', or not?
Posted by: J House | May 28, 2009 10:23:31 AM
Oh Yeah wrote: "I missed your explanation of what exactly did 9/11 have to do with the invasion of Iraq."
Following the attacks of 9/11, the Bush Administration changed our national security policy from being "reactive" to being "proactive."
Posted by: James Danley | May 28, 2009 10:22:47 AM
"I'm not so sure that hundreds of years of animosity toward that West are really affected by the Gitmo closing.. it seems a stretch....to me..."
Does nothing really. Our enemies didn't care really. Any use of GITMO propaganda wise by our enemies was directed towards the west. It had a bigger impact with our allies though changing it doesn't some how magically mean our allies will commit more resources for US interests, that won't change either. So what we get out of it is closing something that was demonized by political banter. Sort of our own self created boogeyman that we have to get rid of now after we dressed him up as the boogeyman. In reality all we are doing is taking off the boogeyman costume and moving him elsewhere. Didn't change anything. But makes for good rhetoric.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009 10:21:49 AM
Spencer wrote: "...however he did receive briefings in Crawford on August 6th prior to 9/11 from CIA who flew there out of grave concern of an impending attack."
Have you read the briefing? It's on the Internet for everyone to read. The last three paragraphs state:
"We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.
"Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
"The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."
There was NO warning of an "impending attack." To the contrary it stated that there has been "suspicicious activity" since 1998.
What else would you expect President Bush to have done? The FBI and the CIA were investigating every reported threat. Unfortunately the "wall" that the Clinton administration placed preventing law enforcement from communicating with the intelligence agencies didn't allow the FBI and the CIA to share their findings. Would sharing or even join investigations have prevented 9/11? Possibly! But we will never know.
Posted by: James Danley | May 28, 2009 10:21:28 AM
I'm not so sure that hundreds of years of animosity toward that West are really affected by the Gitmo closing.. it seems a stretch....to me...
...also, not convinced that the Iraq/Afghan/Paki.. policy is really a big change or adds to regional stability..
maybe this guy is using the POTUS's teleprompter... nothing new or convincing..so far as I can tell....
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 28, 2009 10:08:31 AM
"increased defense spending"
Defense Budget in Billions (adjusted for purchasing power)
FY07 600.9
FY08 566.2 (Budget and emergency spending actually went up in FY08, but lost purchasing power)
FY09 515.4
FY10 523.8
FY11 530.3
FY12 539.1
FY13 548.9
According to the national defense budget, even by FY13, the Obama administration will still be below FY08 defense budget. OH but they increase defense spending from FY09 to FY13. What a joke.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009 9:46:58 AM
"increased defense spending"
Ok Mr. Jones, you know people can look this up. Defense budget for FY09, according to Defense Budget Estimates for FY09, shows a decrease of 51 Billion dollars, going from current (at the time) 552.3 Billion to 501.4 Billion for FY09. I guess even Mr. Jones integrity can be compromised.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009 9:35:26 AM
"He explained the US was safer because of the decision to close the detention facility, increased defense spending, the new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the responsible pullout of troops from Iraq."
Wow, Jones has really swallowed this one whole. I know for a fact cause I work in DOD that there are budget issues beginning to come up accross the DOD. The Navy has a hold on all PCS moves until next fiscal year! Pilots out on aircraft carriers are flying 3 times a week instead of twice a day. Wheres that increased defense spending Mr. Jones???
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009 9:29:42 AM
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