Four Uighurs Resettled in Bermuda

oh come on.
There is miles and miles of empty land
and forrest land on the east coast that is a short fishing boat ride from the bahamas. How dumb can obama get.
If they want in they will get in.
To bad the brits still dont own it.

That is just wonderful......Obama is releasing terrriosts to islands that Americans go to vacation. Why don't Obama just invite them to the white house and have them settle there. I can't wait until his term is over with. America continues to go down hill.

Hmm, I would love to live in Bermuda, but unfortunately I do not have the funds to move there and need to keep working. Perhaps if I had been captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan after attending an AQ training camp, I could move there for free! Darn, who says hard work and doing the right things pay off - it appears in this case that joining a terrorist group was the best thing that ever happened to these Uighurs.

Most liberals I know were thrilled to see the 'violent' action taken against Afghanistan. And I have even been surprised by some I had pegged as die-hard hippies admit they would have supported the war against Saddam murderous regime "if it was being run by competent adults."

Since the population of liberals who fit your fantasy strawman seems awfully low, good luck finding anyone to debate.

Posted by: jhw539 |
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What a crock. In the primaries, the single most distinguishing characteristic of Obama was his consistent opposition to the Iraq war and his repeated promise to "end" it. And by that time the war was finally being "run by grownups". You do remember General Betrayus don't you?

Does this mean that we don't have to pay Palau $11,764,705.00 for each of these four people? I hope so. I really don't have $47,058,820.00 laying around loose. I've spent too much on soup kitchens, homeless shelters, families living under bridges and people begging on street corners to afford anymore payments. I support Americans first. But, than again, I don't work for the government.

"Obama's change" allowing terrorist to go to a cush island, I hope they don't object to the change in their living quarters and I do hope they got an all inclusive place. We had a Muslim kill a U.S, serviuceman in Ark. the guy stated he did it because that is what muslims are supposed to do. The news media has completely ignored the killing and what is a most certain muslim hate crime.
What is happening to America, sending terrorist to cush islands and just brushing off a muslim killing an Army private in Arkansas. If this is Obama's change I am very scared for the U.S. we will have terrorist working out in the open here in the states, they can see we no longer are willing to fight them. "God save America"!!!!

""NONE of their missiles, as hard as they try will not reach the US. "

On 16 February 2005 Vice Admiral Lowell E. Jacoby, U.S. Navy, Director, Defense Intelligence Agency, testified that the "...Taepo Dong 2 intercontinental ballistic missile may be ready for testing. This missile could deliver a nuclear warhead to parts of the United States in a two stage variant and target all of North America with a three stage variant."

""I have found no links that the British described it as terror.

Nevermind, found one,..."

Actually I retract again, it was an editorial. You have any link to a British quote in the revolutionary war referring to revolutionaries as terrorists? Can't find a good source. The source I thought I found it at admitted at the bottom that they used a synonym for terrorism.

"During the Cold War, Russia would never have bombed us, as we wouldn't either! Both sides knew that would be the end of world as we know it! THINK! It was, as much as I hate to use this phrase, a Mexican standoff! All sides know today, if it begins, it will destroy us all."

Um... that wasn't all of the Cold War. Proxy wars were raging all over the world, backed by the US and Russia. It was about having governments in power that supported us or supported them. It was about isolation of the other. War in Korea and Vietnam are the big ones where Americans had direct action. We supported Afghanistan rebels against the Russians in the 80's, propped up anti-communist leaders around the world, the Russians supported the FARQ in Colombia and Sandinistas in Central America. The Cold War was MUCH MUCH bigger than us pointing missiles at each other.

"NONE of their missiles, as hard as they try will not reach the US. Even if they try, do you not think China or Japan would intervene?"

If they can put a satellite in orbit, as they claimed this last launch, what makes you think they can't reach the US? Their TD2 missile has the range to reach our western sea board (depending on the load question, how small and light have they made their nuke weapon?). And how would Japan or China intervene? Japan is scared crapless because they know they are a target of NK. China tries its best to stay out of it, and have demonstrated no control and very little influence over NK as this last nuclear test shows.

And I served 13 years in the military, traveled the world as well in a capacity to defend this nation. I didn't go to a nice hotel, i stayed in crappy facilities surrounded in barbed wire and marines with guns standing on a wall. Please don't lecture me on experience in foreign lands.

KR - Yes, it is fair to hold them accountable! They make decisions everyday that will effect our world in centuries to come! They know this and sign up for the job anyway! And because they are "past" Pres. once they get out of office we are supposed to hold them in high regard! During the Cold War, Russia would never have bombed us, as we wouldn't either! Both sides knew that would be the end of world as we know it! THINK! It was, as much as I hate to use this phrase, a Mexican standoff! All sides know today, if it begins, it will destroy us all. N. Korea is the exception, but lets be honest, NONE of their missiles, as hard as they try will not reach the US. Even if they try, do you not think China or Japan would intervene? Wake up! I have traveled the world, I know what they think of us, have you?

"I have found no links that the British described it as terror."

Nevermind, found one, but it isn't in the same terminology as we use it today. Anyone who defied the British government were seen as "terrorists". Can't equate that to AQ of today.

"Yet we put Saddam Hussien in power! How many times has our Govt. in the past supported "rebels"?"

Actually a correction, we didn't put him in power, we supported him against Iran, who was supported by Russia in that lil old thing called the Cold War. No doubt during the Cold War we supported shady characters as pawns in the bigger game of the Cold War. But to sit here, years after it ended, and have a sanctimonious view of events back then isn't fair to our leaders at the time who saw it as a necessary evil to combat the bigger threat of Russian world influence.

jhw..Do you even bother to read your comments, you specified the "camp" and I in response asked you "what camp be that?" In other words, you seemed to avoid saying the camp in Afghanistan...BTW the Uighurs have already admitted, 15 0f 22, of receiving small arms training in Afghanistan

"So we're the world's policeman now? Even though we would welcome terror tactics against the government of Iran (arguably even sponsor them)."

Besides the fact that we have always been the military arm of the U.N., it has nothing to do with the point of the statement. And I would argue that we would not welcome terror tactics against the government of Iran, possibly not even guerilla tactics against Iran. In a civil war would we choose sides against the current regime? Surely we would, but dont mince them up in the same language.

"The tactics of the American Revolution were decried as terrorism by the British."

Actually it was described as not being a gentlemans war, I have found no links that the British described it as terror, thats a modern day label people have tried to pin on it. Revolutionaries employed guerilla tactics learned from the Indians.

"If they are not targeting the US the safest thing to do would be to settle them in the US,"

Really? By what criteria do we support terrorists relocating into the US? Terrorists against Iran and China welcome, terrorists against Israel = bad. Someone better make a list of these so called "good terrorists" so our soldiers know the difference. And would that make the US a state sponsor of terror to the Chinese or Iran?

Instead, we look like cowards, scared of a dozen guys who everyone including us agree mean our country no harm.
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To whom do we look like cowards? All the other countries who wouldn't take them in?

There is NO evidence of that.
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Sorry. I'll be more precise. They were in a camp in Afghanistan, and the Uighur separatist movement is considered by some to be associated with alQeada.
A Uighur separatist group set off a bus bomb in Shanghai in May 2008, killing 3 people.
We don't support tactics like that.

Parllax View:"What camp be that?? And lead by whom??"
Did you even bother to read this article, never mind the years of coverage prior?

"BTW I thought, according to liberal thought, terrorism or violent acts were never justified"
Then you are laughably mistaken. Most liberals I know were thrilled to see the 'violent' action taken against Afghanistan. And I have even been surprised by some I had pegged as die-hard hippies admit they would have supported the war against Saddam murderous regime "if it was being run by competent adults."

Since the population of liberals who fit your fantasy strawman seems awfully low, good luck finding anyone to debate.

Why not send the rest of the Gitmo detainees to Bermuda. Isolated, not direct land links, nice weather...

MayBee - Yet we put Saddam Hussien in power! How many times has our Govt. in the past supported "rebels"? I'm sure the Govt. in charge would consider them terrorists! You see the US has turned a blind eye when it came to others, when it happens to us, well, darn! Lets just round up everyone! What I have always found interesting is as recently as 4/30/2008, Nelson Mandela was on our terrorist watch list! That's both a shame for the Repubs and Dems, but it shows what our Intel is all about!

KR:"No it does. We, as a nation, should have a stance against the tactic of terror, no matter who the target it is. The tactic is what we should be against."

So we're the world's policeman now? Even though we would welcome terror tactics against the government of Iran (arguably even sponsor them).

Now you're starting to sound as starry eyed as the most rosy-eyed liberals. The tactics of the American Revolution were decried as terrorism by the British.

"Our soldiers down range adust their operations to this kind of stuff. This is why the question is important, if they are not targetting the US, do we care?"

Yes, yes we do. If they are not targeting the US the safest thing to do would be to settle them in the US, as we have done with hundreds of people China would prefer dead. And doing this would have given us incredibly valuable respect in the eyes of all the countries we are going to be asking to take back their nationals from Guantanamo over the next year.

Instead, we look like cowards, scared of a dozen guys who everyone including us agree mean our country no harm. Even Bermuda isn't scared of these guys. What message does that send to our troops?